Hello! Welcome to HubPages. I am looking forward to reading your first hub.
Hello God is in the kitchen! Welcome to Hubpages;-)
I pray you will enlighten us with great articles.
Hello God is in the Kitchen...what are you cooking today?
There is very little kitchen in your photo. Am I to deduce that you are not in fact referring to your own divinity in the third person?
I confess to being mildly disappointed
"We often get *intuitions* which we can not establish with evidence. If someone tells a lie, we may detect that, but we can not instantly show evidence. Is this the case for God. Is it possible that some people know and feel God, but can't demonstrate to others?"
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/102800 Hay hello?
Is it possible that some people act out because they cannot face the real issues in their lives?
"What if someone tells the truth and our *intuition* detects a lie? In other words, when they are wrong, is that also demonstrating God?"
hi. Did you eat all your buttered popcorn sent by God?
Intuition is a very valid subject. I am glad you brought it up here.
Most people forget that all REAL science comes from intuition, it's a human process. One can not rationalize that Gravitation exists, you must internally feel the reality.
The possibility is, as I see, that perhaps great many people have intuitively found many clues in the universe which would make us wonder, including the existence of God. Why is it so impossible that some people have the intuition the Creator God exists?
Gravity exists independently of our ability to rationalize its existence. As Neil DeGrasse Tyson says, "The great thing about science is that it works whether or not you believe in it". The difference between a belief in a hypothesis and a belief in God, is that gravity -- in this case -- can be manipulated, measured and predicted. Therefore we claim that it is true.
I meant that when someone discovers a so-called scientific truth, for the first time, they get an intuition or internal realization. Did Newton discover gravity by rationalizing, or pure rationalizing?
Your mother loves you, that's a truth, can that be manipulated, measured and predicted? If you fail to measure and manipulate all those things, so does that only say that your mother does not love you?
Your idea of truth will lead to family dispute
Love is not science and thus not subject to the same criteria of measurement. Love is a categorization of a multitude of processes that include the appeasement of the senses, chemical reactions (dopamine or serotonin for instance) and on. All of these facets of "love" can be measured and are well documented to occur when we "fall in love". There's no mystery here. So yes, love can -- in a sense -- be measured and predicted.
Secondly, if you are going to say that love is subject to the scientific method, then your assertion that your mother loves you is quite obviously incorrect. This is certainly not the case for many people in the world.
P.S: You're right about the family disputes LOL
Let's talk about empathy, and empathic love. Is there an explanation? The odd is that it does exist. So does maternal love, it exists and is a reality. This is a truth without scientific explanation, not with proper ones anyway, in a way that this can be manipulated, measured and predicted.
Your words - "The difference between a belief in a hypothesis and a belief in Love, is that gravity -- in this case -- can be manipulated, measured and predicted. Therefore we claim that it is true."
So love does not exist?
(The word 'God' was edited )
Actually, there are many scientific explanations on why empathetic altruism exists, such as Dawkins' self gene theory. It makes perfect evolutionary sense. Attachment, altruism and bonding improve our own chances of survival, as well as those of our children.
No, it doesn't. I never said love existed as a standalone scientifically measurable entity, I said it existed as a subset of its parts. The word love is a generalization, it's a categorization -- it's a word. This sounds more like a discussion of semantics than science -- frankly.
My words - "Love is a categorization of a multitude of processes that include the appeasement of the senses, chemical reactions (dopamine or serotonin for instance) and on"
In that sense, and in that sense only do I personally and subjectively believe it exists as science.
Also, while maternal love exists. So too does maternal infanticide. It only takes one factual objection to disprove a theory.
Dawkins' theory makes sense, but can you prove it? Was that the way true empathic love came into the world. Frankly speaking, love has some divine element to it. It exists because we all, including the animals, want to live and prosper. Why is this urge to survive? We could have been naturally programmed to destroy each other. Why does life want to survive? I keep that brief... There is no explanation to that question. The theory of Evolution merely scratches the surface, and it's a theory, anyway.
With your definition of love, we can't manipulate or measure it. "My mother loves me 50 kilograms" does not make sense. But the fact is, oddly, it exists. Why can't God exist that way? Maybe, for SOME people, Creator God is just as a reality as love is. We should be open to that possibility.
99% of species that have existed on this planet are now extinct. Our food sources throughout history include other animals. We wage constant war, both literally and figuratively.
It seems to me that we are in part programmed to destroy each other. Why? Because our survival as humans comes at the expense of other things. Plants, animals, other humans and so on. You can't live off air. Your job, your money and your well being comes at the expense of something else. It isn't cruel. Nature does not have a conscience, it's simply life.
I'm not against you believing in anything, if anything, my only objection is when people confuse science and gut feeling or faith. The two are separate.
Again, regarding "love", please read my definition of it again. I state clearly that you cannot measure it because it is the ensemble of many smaller measurable things. Love is a word. The feelings attributed to love can be broken down quite easily with a sprinkling of science.
If you are going to claim that there are elements to love that are divine, that's fine. I don't have a problem with it. But how can you be sure we ALL share the same feelings you do, if it isn't through science.
"99% of species that have existed on this planet are now extinct." - Tell me where did you get this from?
"Our food sources throughout history include other animals." - Unfortunately, it does. But you also have vegetarians, and many people who are against the practice of killing animals for food purposes. And to add, we do this with our free-will, that is, we know what we are doing. It's not like a lion hunting a deer. The lion has no other choices, we do.
"We wage constant war, both literally and figuratively." - We war because of historic reasons behind them, it's not because it's natural. There were and always are issues which require to be addressed. Human beings are not naturally warlike. It might be as well that we are naturally non-violent. If the Germans had enough employment and were not so forced into the corner, it might be the case that there would be no Second World War. It depends.
"Your job, your money and your well being comes at the expense of something else. It isn't cruel. Nature does not have a conscience, it's simply life. " - The odd is that human beings do have a conscience, nature may not have. We are not trees or mushrooms. We don't know even whether some aliens dropped us from their spaceship, on this planet. My job and my money does not come at the expense of something else, neither yours, unless you have chosen that to be. There may be imperfections in life, but there are ways to correct that, and in many places people just do that. It's a shame that some people accept otherwise.
"I'm not against you believing in anything, if anything, my only objection is when people confuse science and gut feeling or faith. The two are separate." - There is a basic misunderstanding between you and me in here. If scientific truth means 'how' things work, then we don't know a great deal. If you want to know the dynamics of biological life, I fear no one can provide that information. But we do know the difference between life and death, and a living human being to a corpse. What is missing? Can you define the dynamics of consciousness? Just that way, many people may realize many other things. It's just that they can not describe it's dynamic does not mean that it does not exist. To prove the existence of something requires evidence.
"The feelings attributed to love can be broken down quite easily with a sprinkling of science." - Do that. I will be glad to listen how you can quantify love into some chemicals and so on. It's possible, but then you have to define more such things, like consciousness and conscience, spiritual awakenings and kundalini. I hope science can demonstrate their dynamics.
"But how can you be sure we ALL share the same feelings you do, if it isn't through science." - That is why I spoke about intuition that day. How can you prove someone is lying by watching him? Some of us do realize that when someone is lying. Do we need evidence there? Evidence comes later. It maybe just that we ALL share the same feelings. It's just because of your faith in science, you are unwilling to accept that. Science must get no unmerited respect. It's merely a human affair.
Bacon and Eggs. Every day God begins the day with bacon and eggs. And buttered toast.
Helps with the equilibrium.
I'm beginning to think the marks deserve this treatment. lol.
If it were not for joy which exists naturally within a child, the child would never learn anything or adapt to his environment. If the child is not profoundly and unconditionally loved by his mother and vice versa the child would not develop a robust psyche enabling him to survive and be happy in life. If we humans did not have the natural ability to perceive intuitively we would not have survived as a species. Joy, Love and Intuition are part of our psychic makeups. I do not know what there is to argue about this. Obviously most people could give examples of how each of these abilities have manifested, alleviating one misfortune and another. Or yes, causing great discoveries, and the ability to perceive God directly.
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