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LDS:we need Joseph Smith consent to get into heaven

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    passingthewordposted 4 years ago

    Quotes by the second Prophet Brigham Young:
    No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith… He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity and calling, as God does in Heaven" - Journal of Discourses, Vol.14, p.203

    "The time was when a test of a Christian was his confession of Jesus Christ…This is no test for this generation…This generation, however, is not left without a test. I have taught for thirty years, and still teach, that he that believeth in his heart and confesseth with his mouth that Jesus is the Christ and that Joseph Smith is his Prophet to this generation, is of God; and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fulness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is antichrist." Journal of Discourses, Vol.9, p.312.

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      passingthewordposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Joseph Fielding Smith said: [There is] "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190).

      1. tussin profile image60
        tussinposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        And to think Mormons always accuse Catholics of being polythesitic. Oh well, not my religion, not my problem.

  2. Paul Wingert profile image79
    Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago

    What a con job!!! LOL Just like Christianity!

    1. SummerSizzler profile image61
      SummerSizzlerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Or could you be con job in believing what you believe?

  3. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    And we Christians get judged by Peter at the Pearly Gates.
    Commonality: You gotta pass a test to get into Heaven.
    Difference: Who's grading your test.
    smile

    1. a49eracct profile image61
      a49eracctposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      ...We don't "pass a test"... Our lives are looked at and accepted/rejected. You could be an atheist who uses their last breath to claim jesus as their savior, and still get through the gate.

      1. Paul Wingert profile image79
        Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Judism, Christianity, and Islam judgement is based on the ancient Eqyptian belief that a person has to go through a judgment to prove that the deceased led an honorable life in order to enter the afterlife.

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          a49eracctposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Exactly..not a test there. But of course, this is just my opinion.

      2. Billy Hicks profile image88
        Billy Hicksposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        "..We don't "pass a test"... Our lives are looked at and accepted/rejected. "

        Sorry, but that one made me laugh...

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    psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago

    Blah blah blah Mormonism is bad blah blah.

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      Motown2Chitownposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Most intelligent part of the discourse so far. smile

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    passingthewordposted 4 years ago

    “I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him.
    Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

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    pisean282311posted 4 years ago

    obvioysly...LDS is perfectly right...without joseph smith non can dream of getting into heaven...

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      passingthewordposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      ? what about Jesus?

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        pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        @passing jesus is impt but none can reach heaven without joseph smiths permission....

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          passingthewordposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          1 Timothy 2:5

          For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

          John 14:6

          Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

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            pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            @passing doesnot matter...joseph smith came after jesus...old testament prohibits worshipping any1 other than YAHWEH...new testament altered that...in same line this was altered with joseph smith...accept joseph smith to go to heaven...thats mandatory....

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              passingthewordposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Old testament promised of a saver a new covenant (testament). Jesus is our new covenant (testament.
              "I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles (Isaiah 42:6; 49:8).
              This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you (Luke 22:20)."
              So you think Joseph Smith Is you "new newer covenant?" Do you think Joseph Smith is your saver?

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                pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                @passing wht do u mean by my saver..it is for all human kind...for heaven u need permission of joseph smith...

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                  passingthewordposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Like Jesus died for the world. He saved us from hell. Do u think Joseph smith is your saver?

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                    pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    @passing joseph smith is not saver...jesus is saver...joseph smith is incharge of heaven...no heaven without joseph smith...the faster world gets that , more people would get into heaven...or else in name of jesus they would keep wondering why didnt they get ticket of heaven...u cant get ticket for heaven unless u ask right man and that is joseph smith...

 
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