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Why Does Allah Hate Me So Much?

  1. medit8r profile image61
    medit8rposted 8 years ago

    To whom it may concern, I am a 31 yeard old male residing in Toronto, Canada.  The reason I am writing this is because I feel like my life is going nowhere but downhill.  Everyone I have ever known in this short and miserable life which Allah calls a blessing, and which I call a CURSE, have either achieved great happiness and prosperity in life, or went on to do great things.  But ME, I will always be stuck in this rut.  I was never good in school, I dont even know the word CONFIDENCE, because I let people walk all over me.  I get no respect from my parents, who I am grateful to them for only one thing, and that is I still have a roof over my head.  So tell me people, even if I pray 5 times a day, what GOOD can possibly come out of this.  NOTHING, NADA, ZIPPO.. I seriously believe Allah plugs His ears when my prayer reaches him, and He just laughs it off thinking Yeah Right, keep trying..  I am so happy there is an easy way out in life, and that is TAKING MY OWN LIFE.  I seriously believe I will be doing Him a favor, after all I am a waste of HIS BREATH..

    Please feel free to comment b4 I TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT..

    P.S. I am waiting for an EPIPHANY..

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Forget about allah. No such thing.

      That puts things in context. Now - It is up to you - Only you can have the CONFIDENCE you need. No one else. No god. No allah. Just you.

      Although - if you are going to TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT, I recommend a sharp knife and some strong alcohol..... Unless your religion forbids that. And not in that order.   smile

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        hiraziposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Allah exists and i can prove it
        Without existence of your mother and Father; you were impossible to come in the world, Similarly, Allah made this world and everything is made by Allah, Allah=God
        Allah Love each of it's creation thousands times more than a mother, If you do a sin; you are ashamed to show off; But Allah, Allah looks it and never punishes you, infect your Mother Can
        You may refer the Speeches of Dr. Zakir Naik, He explains very very well..
        2ndly:
        I would like to Say that never comment at religion of anyone, Allah sent it's messengers in shape of prophets different times; there's a possibility that religion was of GOD, but The last messenger was Prophet Muhammad PBUH and Islam is the last religion of Allah.

        I can't force you to believe me but; after you die, you will know..

        1. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You have no proof of god, any god, not one single piece of evidence. Believe if you like but prove it? lol I don't think so!

          1. Aamna sehar profile image59
            Aamna seharposted 11 months ago in reply to this

            Your heart beat is the proof of God.

          2. Aamna sehar profile image59
            Aamna seharposted 11 months ago in reply to this

            According to you there is no God then can you please tell me what is the definition of God according to you?

          3. Trichakra profile image60
            Trichakraposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            But it does not mean that god does not exist.

      2. mega1 profile image79
        mega1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        gee, that was about the furthest thing from funny that I've ever read in the forums - I can't joke about suicide, and I am a bit shocked that anyone can.  I agree that is silly to wait for some big spirit to send you confidence, you need to get that for yourself, but its not very helpful to say this without giving at least some encouragement or a hint about how you get that confidence!  How do YOU get so confident, Mark?

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      sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I dunno, Allah might actually hate you so much that you wont even be able to do that.  Drink the alcohol first! 

      If you are unsecessful, then I will be here waiting for you to stop loathing and like knowyourself said, take responsiblity for your own life.  Allah doesn't answer prayers honey...

    3. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I know I am going to die soon,
      That will be my biggest boon.

      My life like a candle has been lit,
      Suicide sadly is forbidden to commit.


      I was also very suicidal for some time but its not the way ,have patience no one is spared from pain.You are not alone .
      Unto Allah is your return and he is able to do all things.
      The reason Muslims pray five times day is beacuse this way you keep reminding yourself of god and the monemt you die if you have god in your thoughts you will go back to him -home bliss- hang in there. smile
      With suicide you are cutting your own life which is not allowed and you will come back to finish what  you left behind. smile

      I get angry so often and I ask why me?
      He says patience is needed in order to see. smile

    4. Mr Nice profile image68
      Mr Niceposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Well I guess you are at a wrong place at a wrong time just change your environment & attitude. Remember they say God help those who help themselves.

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        sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I think that is going on my list of favorites, right next to my favorite from Misha, "if you don't drink and you don't smoke, you die healthy?"

        1. Mr Nice profile image68
          Mr Niceposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Well be careful about Misha he is always looking for cute ladies like you. If you don't drink and you don't smoke, you die healthy?  Then why not eat drink smoke & hand Mary. I guarantee you will die happy.♥♥♥

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            sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            smile

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      C. C. Riterposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Of course you don't have any confidence. 31 years old and living with dad and mom and complaining you don't get respect! Get a job, move out and you'll gain the confidence and respect of others. Help yourself man! quit whining.
      sorry, but i think you needed that

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      04shaikjposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Assalamualaikum my brother,

           I pray that you are doing well Alhumdulillah. My brother, do you pray 5 times a day or read the Qur'an or do whatever good so that Allah may grant you the goodness of this world? Or do you do it because you want the eternal bliss of heaven which is not comparable to the life of this world? This is the question you need to ask yourself - Where are your priorities in life?
          You say you weren't good in school so let me teach you something today. Maybe you know this already. In math, we learn that if you divide a number in the numerator (top number) by a number in the denominator that is getting larger, you approach a value close to zero. For example:
      60/100=0.6    (100 is a big number)
      60/1000= 0.06  (1000 is even a bigger number and the answer you get is smaller than before)
      60/10000= 0.006 (10000 is greater than 1000 and the answer is even smaller now and closer to zero)

         So we see that as the denominator (the number in the bottom) gets larger, we approach the number zero. What does this have to do with your problem? Well, if the number in the top represents our life on earth and the number at the bottom that keeps increasing represents eternity, comparing the two we see that life on earth is worth close to zero when compared with eternity. Since it is the joyful eternity of heaven we seek, we need to focus on that and be less worried about the trials and tribulations of this world.

         My brother, please remember these verses of the Qur'an:

         [29:2-3 "Do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe", and that they will not be tested?' "We did test those before them, and Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false.' ]
         [Allah does not impose upon any soul a duty but to the extent of its ability; for it is [the benefit of] what it has earned and upon it [the evil of] what it has wrought: Our Lord! do not punish us if we forget or make a mistake; Our Lord! do not lay on us a burden as Thou didst lay on those before us, Our Lord do not impose upon us that which we have not the strength to bear; and pardon us and grant us protection and have mercy on us, Thou art our Patron, so help us against the unbelieving people.] (Al-Baqarah 2:286).
       
      As well as remember the sayings of our dearly beloved Prophet Peace Be Upon Him:

      The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said: “The greatest reward comes with the greatest trial.  When God loves a people, He tests them.  Whoever accepts this, wins His Pleasure.”  (Al-Tirmidhi)

      And the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said further: “Paradise is surrounded with difficulties (i.e. in this worldly life)…”

      As mentioned in a Hadith:  Any fatigue, or disease, or sorrow, or sadness, or pain, or distress that befall a Muslim, even if it is only the prick he receives from a thorn, Allah expiates some of his sins for that.

      Another Hadith reads: When the Prophet (peace be upon him) was asked which people suffered the greatest affliction, he replied, "The prophets, then those who come next to them, then those who come next to them.

      Sometimes Allah even afflicts someone with trials due to his/her sins as reported in a Hadith that the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) said: A person is deprived of his provision due to his sins . [ Ahmad ].

      Knowing whether the affliction is due to the sin or merely a trial from Allah is not necessary. The important thing is to be patient in the face of catastrophe and hard times, to seek forgiveness from Allah, to make repentance and to implore Allah's Mercy to remove calamities.

      Thus, my brother, I should be jealous that your trials and tribulations are purifying your sins. So let them purify you. It is only because Allah loves you! And please remember that heaven does not come easy. It has to be earned. If it came easy than God would just give it to us now instead of putting us on earth first. But no! We are here to be tested so that He may see who truly loves Him and who doesn't. And just like when you love your mom, wife, brother, you display your affection through actions and words. Similar is the case with God. So continue your prayers and always ask for the Goodness of this world and the Goodness of the Hereafter and to be saved from the punishment of Hell.

      And if you think your life is miserable, don't forget to ponder over the state of people in different areas of the world. Remember the Arab-Israeli conflict and how innocent people are dying there in brutal ways. Do you consider your test greater than theirs? Look at poverty stricken areas of Africa - people dying due to a lack of basic necessities! Ponder over the millions who died in the Holocaust. I bet these people would give anything to live for just few more days. While they struggle to live for another day you wish to take your life away my brother? Be thankful for what you have. Especially be thankful that God has saved you and guided you to Islam.

      Lastly, if all of the above doesn't help answer your question then let me highlight to you my life. I grew up in an environment of domestic abuse and violence which also left me with low self-esteem and confidence. I also have parents that at times put me down. However, I never settle for less. I keep my faith and try to overcome barriers. Now I am in my graduating year of university insha Allah. And all praise is for Allah.

      My friend, remember God during your difficulties but remember him MORE during times of happiness so that he may grant you more goodness. IF you remember him in your sorrows and forget about him during your happy moments, then you are being unjust to him.

      Please contact me if you have any questions brother: 04shaikj@live.ca
      I was trying to find some information about Islam on Google and stumbled across your post. I felt it necessary to register myself for hubpages to answer you. I won't be coming here again so you may contact me via email if you wish insha Allah.

      May Allah guide us all to the truth and grant us the Goodness and save us from the evil of the hereafter. Aameen.

      Assalamualaikum brother.

    7. Ana Louis profile image83
      Ana Louisposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      First of all, stop feeling sorry for your-self; and you must stop seeing your-self as a victim in life.  Humans are not marionetts danging from strings attached to Allahs (Gods) fingers.  We are self-ruling...we have free will.  Everyone has to take responsibility for his own life, make his own decisions, and accept the consequences for those descisions.  Look around and count your blessings.  Be thankful that you have parents willing to help you, so you are not alone in the world.  If you are healthy, be thankfull.  With good health comes abilities.  Not everyone in life is a genius, or even well educated, but that dosen't mean you have to be a looser.  Look around and see more than yourself in the world.  The world if full of people less fortunate than you.  Maybe you could think of a way to be usefull...to bless others.  Becoming more than your are does not require money or social status, it just requires the right attitude and a willingness to work at it.

      Do not judge yourself by what others have or achieve.  You might not want to carry their world on your shoulders if you really knew how heavy it is.  Be who you are...everyone has gifts.  Discover what yours are.

      Allah hears your prayers, but he is not a vending machine.  He cannot do everything for you, and leave you with free will. 
      Take where you are right now, and see the possibilities...there are always possibilities.  Make a plan, be patient, work hard, and appreciate every gift that comes your way.

      I don't believe that we are put on this earth to gain riches and accolades (although I'm sure those things are gratifying), but are those things in themselves what makes the world a better place, or any of us a better person. 

      Depression is a terrible thing - I have suffered with it myself and I know how self-destructive it can become.  God did not magically take away all my problems, but when I began to make an effort to change my circumstances, He began to help me find answers and ways to help myself.

      "happiness comes when we stop wailing about the troubles we have, and offer thanks for all the troubles we don't have."

      When you get the bread you've been praying for,don't grumble because it's not cake".

      Be Happy...believe in yourself, and go forward on your own path and do not envy or covet the path of others.  Be the best person that you can be and the world will be a better place because you are here.

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      CrnaGorkaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      i feel exactly the same way... i dont know why.. i go to the mosque every saturday.. i fast on ramadan.. i know that i have made sins in the past but i repented... i just dont understand.. my life is horrid... i can never enjoy it because i always am worried about something.. i wish that allah actually loved me.. and i cry every night.. i feel like i should just give up... and become and atheist.. i really believe that i should just end my life... obviously thats what allah wants me to do!

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
        My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        My friend says:
        It does not appear that you have been loved or taught love.

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        Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        This is all so scary.  Both the post and the answers, etc.

        And if this is for real...go talk to a friend.  If not...you know, heck, atheism isn't all that bad.

        smile

    9. shamelabboush profile image71
      shamelabboushposted 7 years ago in reply to this

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      I briefly say: stop bitching about it. Allah or God has no revenge nor issues with you, right? There are millions like you who are less furtunate or lucky but they bever question it. in this case, just search for something in you that people don't possess. At least you can hear, speak, have a roof over your head, you are healthy, your parents are alive....etc Can you count how many in teh world who can't walk? Who can't drink clean water? Who are in prison?

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      mom019posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      My dear brother your the lucky one, Do you know, when we are enjoying life we forget Allah. When ever calamity befalls us, We then ending up to Allah for help. Likewise Allah loves us so much that he wants us to remember him, Once you get in the habit of Praying on time, Hate sinful things; ur getting in a habit of doing things Allah loves us to do, you end up loving to pray not because you have to but you want to you want to thank Allah; This way ur mind changes u start to contemplate about little things, u value people and things, you try to help, you thing about misfortunate people, you develop Love. And it keeps going. If Allah hated you,you be dead. remember what Allah says with hardsheep comes with ease, with every hardship it also comes with ease.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Aww - sweetie pie.
        The poster of the question killed himself 5 months ago.
        So allah did hate him after all. sad
        So sad when allah hates.
        What a hateful god.

        Sad

        1. mega1 profile image79
          mega1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          again, you have gone too, too far - I hope you never have to have friends or relatives commit suicide!  If you did you would know how stupid it is to joke about it!

    11. Hokey profile image61
      Hokeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      God comes from within. You can't control anything but how you react to things. How you react is a personal choice. Choose to be happy. No matter what. Very simple.

  2. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    Quit comparing yourself to Allah

  3. medit8r profile image61
    medit8rposted 8 years ago

    What do you mean by that? Please explain..

  4. medit8r profile image61
    medit8rposted 8 years ago

    Funny, But True..

    Thanks Alot.. smile

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      My pleasure. And we are all waiting for an EPIPHANY big_smile

  5. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    "Quit comparing yourself to Allah"
    Means quit blaming Allah and take responsibility for your own life.

  6. abeerer profile image61
    abeererposted 8 years ago

    Its seems you never understood the assence of prayers. First try to learn about prayers and then you will see the difrence, aslo you must understand what you are reciting in you prayers, that will work as an oinmnet on your inner pain. Believe it or not Allah Ta'ala exists and and he is closer then our breathing vien in throught. Also he loves us more then anybody in this world even more then our own mother who borned us. So what ever pain we go through in our life has its meanings and reasons.

    1. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Allah loves us so much, he allows people like this to strap bombs to their bodies, and THEN kill themselves. That way he can kill many more of us (whom he loves more than our own mother), AND himself. That is SICK, to say the least! mad
      Whatever your need, Jesus is the answer. Don't believe any other advice you hear (here)!
      At least He "did the dying" for you. But like a few others that posted here, I say, "you have to be courageous and make the move foreward, yourself". cool
      You are too valuable to be "wasted" through suicide. There is NOT ONE other human being on this planet like you! ! ! ! That makes you special, and gives you a purpose that NO_ONE else has, so don't compare yourself. cool

      1. Anna Erwin profile image60
        Anna Erwinposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I second that, don't compare yourself.  smile

      2. pylos26 profile image78
        pylos26posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Aka...dude that fellow is no more sick than you...your dude jesus died because he was an habitual violator of society's laws and them Romans didn't go for that shit. Yeah, he was so eager to die for everyone else's sins that he had to be hunted down like a dog, from hiding, and draged to jail. The bum died because he ran out of options.

        1. mohitmisra profile image61
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          He wasnt eager to die that was his destiny, he asks gods when he is on the cross" why have you forsaken me" .Jesus was a great great saint. smile
          The prohet Mohammed had to fight wars if you recall which was his destiny. smile Gods prophets have a role to play . smile

          aka dj stop this crap of your god or prophet being better than some other religions.

      3. mohitmisra profile image61
        mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        There is no difference between Allah and The Holy Spirit except the word, so by insulting Allah you are insulting the Holy Spirit. smile

        There is no need to change your faith,
        And on your old Religions lay a wreath. smile

  7. pylos26 profile image78
    pylos26posted 8 years ago

    Its seems you never understood the assence of prayers. First try to learn about prayers and then you will see the difrence, aslo you must understand what you are reciting in you prayers, that will work as an oinmnet on your inner pain. Believe it or not Allah Ta'ala exists and and he is closer then our breathing vien in throught. Also he loves us more then anybody in this world even more then our own mother who borned us. So what ever pain we go through in our life has its meanings and reasons.

    Ahhh...sorry to hear you hate your mother dude...but it seems that she bore an idiot...

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    sandra rinckposted 8 years ago

    Ok, this is crazy, medit8er, don't kill yourself!!!  Life sucks for a lot of people.  Your life is important too ok.  Forget what I said or anyone said, they don't want you to do something like that either. 

    I been there already, it aint pretty especially when you are unseccessfull at knocking off your own life. 

    God does answers prayers but you are looking for answers in the wrong place because if you still want to call it quits and you are sucessful, then He answered you and you didn't listen.

    Don't expect miracles, accept help.  Everyone suffers, everyone.

  9. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    Not me. Course it took a lot of suffering to achieve the non-suffering state - not for myself understand but for others.

  10. TheMoneyGuy profile image76
    TheMoneyGuyposted 8 years ago

    I hate to sound like an asshole, but whiners who go online or anywhere else for that matter saying I am going to kill myself.  Well I got one thing to say, a man has to do what a man has to do.

    Either, get up and start marching or pull the trigger, Otherwise you are just using up precious resources that people who really need and want help could use.

    TMG

  11. needful things profile image76
    needful thingsposted 8 years ago

    Twas Allah that promised virgins in the afterlife right? It this be the case, then the knife isn't such a bad idea...

  12. abeerer profile image61
    abeererposted 8 years ago

    The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus: a comparison
    The person of Jesus or Isa in Arabic (peace be upon him) is of great significance in both Islam and Christianity. However, there are differences in terms of beliefs about the nature and life occurrences of this noble Messenger.

    Source of information about Jesus in Islam

    Most of the Islamic information about Jesus is actually found in the Quran.

    The Quran was revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), and memorized and written down in his lifetime. Today, anyone who calls him or herself a Muslim believes in the complete authenticity of the Quran as the original revealed guidance from God.

    Source of information about Jesus in Christianity

    Christians take their information about Jesus from the Bible, which includes the Old and New Testaments.

    These contain four biblical narratives covering the life and death of Jesus. They have been written, according to tradition, respectively by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are placed at the beginning of the New Testament and comprise close to half of it.

    Encyclopedia Britannica notes that none of the sources of his life and work can be traced to Jesus himself; he did not leave a single known written word. Also, there are no contemporary accounts written of his life and death. What can be established about the historical Jesus depends almost without exception on Christian traditions, especially on the material used in the composition of the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, and Luke, which reflect the outlook of the later church and its faith in Jesus.

    Below are the views of Islam and Christianity based on primary source texts and core beliefs.


    ISLAM


    1. Do Muslims believe he was a Messenger of One God? YES

    Belief in all of the Prophets and Messengers of God is a fundamental article of faith in Islam. Thus, believing in Prophets Adam, Jesus, Moses, and Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon them) is a requirement for anyone who calls him or herself a Muslim. A person claiming to be a Muslim who, for instance, denies the Messengership of Jesus, is not considered a Muslim.

    The Quran says in reference to the status of Jesus as a Messenger:

    "The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom many Messengers have passed away; and his mother adhered wholly to truthfulness, and they both ate food (as other mortals do). See how We make Our signs clear to them; and see where they are turning away!" (Quran 5:75).


    2. Do Muslims believe he was born of a Virgin Mother? YES

    Like Christians, Muslims believe Mary, Maria in Spanish, or Maryam as she is called in Arabic, was a chaste, virgin woman, who miraculously gave birth to Jesus.

    "Relate in the Book the story of Mary, when she withdrew from her family, to a place in the East. She screened herself from them; then We sent to her Our spirit (angel Gabriel) and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. She said: I seek refuge from you in God Most Gracious (come not near) if you do fear God. He said: Nay, I am only a Messenger from your Lord, to announce to you the gift of a pure son. She said: How shall I have a son, when no man has ever touched me, and I am not unchaste? He said: So it will be, your Lord says: ‘That is easy for Me; and We wish to appoint him as a sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': It was a matter so decreed" (Quran 19:16-21).


    3. Do Muslims believe Jesus had a miraculous birth? YES

    The Quran says:

    "She (Mary) said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me.' He (God) said: ‘So (it will be) for God creates what He wills. When He has decreed something, He says to it only: ‘Be!'- and it is" (3:47).

    It should also be noted about his birth that:

    "Verily, the likeness of Jesus in God's Sight is the likeness of Adam. He (God) created him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!'-and he was" (Quran 3:59).


    4. Do Muslims believe Jesus spoke in the cradle? YES

    "Then she (Mary) pointed to him. They said: ‘How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?' He (Jesus) said: ‘Verily! I am a slave of God, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet; " (19:29-30).

    5. Do Muslims believe he performed miracles? YES

    Muslims, like Christians believe Jesus performed miracles. But these were performed by the will and permission of God, Who has power and control over all things.

    "Then will God say: ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! recount My favor to you and to your mother. Behold! I strengthened you with the Holy Spirit (the angel Gabriel) so that you did speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught you the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel. And behold: you make out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and you breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by My leave, and you heal those born blind, and the lepers by My leave. And behold! you bring forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the children of Israel from (violence to you) when you did show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: ‘This is nothing but evident magic' (5:110).


    6. Do Muslims believe in the Trinity? NO

    Muslims believe in the Absolute Oneness of God, Who is a Supreme Being free of human limitations, needs and wants. He has no partners in His Divinity. He is the Creator of everything and is completely separate from His creation.

    God says in the Quran regarding the Trinity:

    "People of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to God nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and in His Messengers, and do not say: ‘God is a Trinity.' Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. God is indeed just One God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. God is sufficient for a guardian" (Quran 4:171).


    7. Do Muslims believe that Jesus was the son of God? NO

    "Say: "God is Unique! God, the Source [of everything]. He has not fathered anyone nor was He fathered, and there is nothing comparable to Him!" (Quran 112:1-4).

    The Quran also states:

    "Such was Jesus, the son of Mary; it is a statement of truth, about which they vainly dispute. It is not befitting to the majesty of God, that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be' and it is" (Quran 19:34-35).


    8. Do Muslims believe Jesus was killed on the cross then resurrected? NO

    "“They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but they thought they did.” (Quran 4:156) “God lifted him up to His presence. God is Almighty, All-Wise” (Quran 4:157) .




    CHRISTIANITY


    1. Do Christians believe Jesus was a human being and Messenger of God? YES & NO

    With the exception of Unitarian Christians, who like all the early followers of Jesus, still do not believe in the Trinity, most Christians now believe in the Divinity of Jesus, which is connected to the belief in Trinity. They say he is the second member of the Triune God, the Son of the first part of the Triune God, and at the same time "fully" God in every respect.


    2. Do Christians believe he was born of a Virgin Mother? YES

    A chaste and pious human woman who gave birth to Jesus Christ, the second member of the Trinity, the Son of God, and at the same time "fully" God Almighty in every respect.

    Christians believe however, that while she was a virgin, she was married to a man named Joseph (Bible: Matthew:1:18). According to Matthew 1:25, Joseph "kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus".


    3. Do Christians believe he had a miraculous birth? YES

    "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows. When His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit" (Bible: Matthew 1:18)


    4. Do Christians believe he performed miracles? YES

    "And now, Lord, look upon their threats, and grant to thy servants to speak thy word with all boldness, while thou stretches out thy hand to heal, and sign and wonders are performed through the name of thy holy servant Jesus (Bible: Acts 4:30).

    Christians believe that Jesus performed these miracles because he was the Son of God as well as the incarnation of God.


    5. Do Christians believe in the Trinity? YES

    With the exception of the Unitarian Christians, who do not believe in the Divinity of Christ, the Trinity, according to the Catholic encyclopedia, is the term used for the central doctrine of the Christian religion. The belief is that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three Persons or beings are distinct from each another, while being similar in character: uncreated and omnipotent.

    The First Vatican Council has explained the meaning to be attributed to the term mystery in theology. It lays down that a mystery is a truth which we are not merely incapable of discovering apart from Divine Revelation, but which, even when revealed, remains "hidden by the veil of faith and enveloped, so to speak, by a kind of darkness" (Const., "De fide. cath.", iv). The First Vatican Council further defined that the Christian Faith contains mysteries strictly so called (can. 4). All theologians admit that the doctrine of the Trinity is of the number of these. The Catholic Encyclopedia notes that of all revealed truths, this is the most impenetrable to reason.



    6. Do Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God? YES

    "For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him (Bible: John 3:16).

    However, it is interesting to note that the term "son of God" is used in other parts of the Bible to refer to Adam (Bible: Luke 3:38), Israel (Bible: Exodus 4:22) and David (Bible: Psalms 2:7) as well. The creatures of God are usually referred to in the Bible as children of God.


    The role of Paul of Tarsus in shaping this belief and the belief in Trinity

    The notion of Jesus as son of God is something that was established under the influence of Paul of Tarsus (originally named Saul), who had been an enemy of Jesus, but later changed course and joined the disciples after the departure of Jesus.

    Later, however, he initiated a number of changes into early Christian teachings, in contradiction, for instance, to disciples like Barnabas, who believed in the Oneness of God and who had actually lived and met with Jesus.

    Paul is considered by a number of Christian scholars to be the father of Christianity due to his additions of the following ideas:

    that Jesus is the son of God,

    the concept of Atonement,

    the renunciation of the Law of the Torah.

    Paul did these things in hopes of winning over the Gentiles (non-Jewish people). His letters are another of the primary sources of information on Jesus according to the Christian tradition.

    The original followers of Prophet Jesus opposed these blatant misrepresentations of the message of Jesus. They struggled to reject the notion of the Divinity of Jesus for close to 200 years.

    One person who was an original follower of Jesus was Barnabas. He was a Jew born in Cyrus and a successful preacher of the teachings of Jesus. Because of his closeness to Jesus, he was an important member of the small group of disciples in Jerusalem who had had gathered together following the disappearance of Jesus.

    The question of Jesus's nature, origin and relationship with God was not raised amongst Barnabas and the small group of disciples. Jesus was considered a man miraculously endowed by God. Nothing in the words of Jesus or the events in his life led them to modify this view.

    The Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as a Canonical Gospel in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 CE Iranaeus (130-200) wrote in support of pure monotheism and opposed Paul for injecting into Christianity doctrines of the pagan Roman religion and Platonic philosophy. He quoted extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas in support of his views. This indicates that the Gospel of Barnabas was in circulation in the first and second centuries of Christianity. 

    In 325 (CE), a council of Christian leaders met at Nicaea and made Paul's beliefs officially part of Christian doctrine. It also ordered that all original Gospels in Hebrew script which contradicted Paul's beliefs should be destroyed. An edict was issued that anyone in possession of these Gospels would be put to death.

    The Gospel of Barnabas has miraculously survived though.


    7. Do Christians believe he was killed on the cross? YES

    This is a core Christian belief and it relates to the concept of atonement. According to this belief, Jesus died to save mankind from sin. However, this is not stated explicitly in the four gospels which form the primary source texts of Christianity. It is found, however, in Romans 6:8,9.

    Christians believe Jesus was spat on, cut, humiliated, kicked, striped and finally hung up on the cross to endure a slow and painful death.

    According, to Christian belief, the original sin of Adam and Eve of eating from the forbidden tree was so great that God could not forgive it by simply willing it, rather it was necessary to erase it with the blood of a sinless, innocent Jesus.


    Resurrection

    The four Gospels and the Epistles of St. Paul are the main sources of Christianity which discuss the Resurrection of Jesus after his crucifixion. According to St. Matthew, Jesus appeared to the holy women, and again on a mountain in Galilee. Mark's Gospel tells a different story: Jesus was seen by Mary Magdalene, by the two disciples at Emmaus, and the Eleven before his Ascension into heaven.

    Luke's Gospel says Jesus walked with the disciples to Emmaus, appeared to Peter and to the assembled disciples in Jerusalem. In John's Gospel, Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene, to the ten Apostles on Easter Sunday, to the Eleven a week later, and to seven disciples at the Sea of Tiberias.

    Another account of the resurrection by St. Paul is found in Bible: Corinthians 15: 3-8.

    According to Christian belief, Resurrection is a manifestation of God's justice, Who exalted Christ to a life of glory, as Christ had humbled himself unto death (Phil., 2: 8-9). This event also completes the mystery of Christian salvation and redemption. The death of Jesus frees believers from sin, and with his resurrection, he restores to them the most important privileges lost by sin (Bible: Romans 4:25).

    More importantly, the belief in the resurrection of Jesus indicates Christian acknowledgment of Christ as the immortal God, the cause of believers' own resurrection (Bible: I Corinthians 4: 21; Phil., 3:20-21), as well as the model and the support of a new life of grace (Bible: Romans 4: 4-6; 9-11).

    1. Make  Money profile image73
      Make Moneyposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      No you are wrong on this one abeerer.  The early followers of Jesus Christ believed He was the Son of God too.  In fact it's all through the Bible.  Here's just one quote from Peter from John chapter 6.


      Verse 70 is verse 69 in the King James version.

      Also in John chapter 10 while speaking to the Jews He says "I and the Father are one."


      And again in John chapter 10 Jesus says "the Father is in me, and I in the Father"


      It wasn't Paul who brought about the idea of the Trinity, it was the whole early Church.

      How do you expect just a mere prophet to return to get rid of the antichrist (dajjal) and make everything perfect?  No other mere prophet has done anything similar.





      I don't know how Islam would come to this conclusion 6 centuries later when Matthew chapter 27 gives such a horrifying account of what happened when Jesus died on the cross.  Mark chapter 15 gives a similar account.

      From Matthew chapter 27


      You know what I mean, this was written about and known in that area for 6 centuries before Islam.

      How do you think Islam missed reporting that there was darkness over the whole earth for 3 hours when Jesus died on the cross?  Or the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top even to the bottom?  Or the earth quaked?  Or the rocks were rent?  How do you think Islam missed reporting that many dead bodies came out of the tombs and appeared to many Jerusalem?  That's a lot to overlook, even 6 centuries later.         

      Mike

      1. mohitmisra profile image61
        mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        In that case Jesus is also just a mere prophet.Didnt know the prophets were mere till now smile

        1. Make  Money profile image73
          Make Moneyposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Silly reply from a mere man. smile

          1. mohitmisra profile image61
            mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Ego makes one blind to the rest of the beauty. Wake up . :)Destroy your ego or you will miss the truth.

    2. abeerer profile image61
      abeererposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Make Money
      The notion of Jesus as son of God is something that was established under the influence of Paul of Tarsus (originally named Saul), who had been an enemy of Jesus, but later changed course and joined the disciples after the departure of Jesus.

      Later, however, he initiated a number of changes into early Christian teachings, in contradiction, for instance, to disciples like Barnabas, who believed in the Oneness of God and who had actually lived and met with Jesus.

      Paul is considered by a number of Christian scholars to be the father of Christianity due to his additions of the following ideas:

      that Jesus is the son of God, the concept of Atonement, the renunciation of the Law of the Torah.

      The original followers of Prophet Jesus opposed these blatant misrepresentations of the message of Jesus. They struggled to reject the notion of the Divinity of Jesus for close to 200 years.

      One person who was an original follower of Jesus was Barnabas. He was a Jew born in Cyrus and a successful preacher of the teachings of Jesus. Because of his closeness to Jesus, he was an important member of the small group of disciples in Jerusalem who had had gathered together following the disappearance of Jesus.

      The Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as a Canonical Gospel in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 CE Iranaeus (130-200) wrote in support of pure monotheism and opposed Paul for injecting into Christianity doctrines of the pagan Roman religion and Platonic philosophy. He quoted extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas in support of his views. This indicates that the Gospel of Barnabas was in circulation in the first and second centuries of Christianity. 

      In 325 (CE), a council of Christian leaders met at Nicaea and made Paul's beliefs officially part of Christian doctrine. It also ordered that all original Gospels in Hebrew script which contradicted Paul's beliefs should be destroyed. An edict was issued that anyone in possession of these Gospels would be put to death.

      The Gospel of Barnabas has miraculously survived though.

      Make Money: My answer is already contains in the above mentioned Infect if we go on debate that who is right and who is wrong will never end. In order to short cut the path I have attached the link so you can read more on the topic also can listen to the CD’s  of Dr. Zakir Naik, he is well known In India who explained in detailed every question you have raised. Have a nice day :-)
      http://www.irf.net/irf/main.htm

  13. medit8r profile image61
    medit8rposted 8 years ago

    Hello and thank you to all who have posted.  I have been doing some deep thinking these past few days and I feel like a weight has been lifted of my shoulders.  I never knew that some people actually care about another persons' situation, whatever it may be.  I would also like to thank TMG, The Money Guy, for being so blunt and straight to the point.  He is right about everything he's said.  However, TMG, I am not going to kill myself.  Just like Sandra Rinck said, my life is important to.  I also liked the phrase 'God helps those who help themselves', what can be more truer than that.  I have wrote a list of short term goals which I have begun doing already to change my attitude and environment.  Also, the power of positive affirmations has just blown me away. There is always an opposite to negativity.  Anyways, God Bless every single one of you and I would love to post more in these forums.  smile

    1. Mr Nice profile image68
      Mr Niceposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I am sure you can change your life by just changing your environment & attitude. Keep up with your goals & always hang out with successful people. If other people like you can become successful & I think you can do it too good luck.smile

  14. Make  Money profile image73
    Make Moneyposted 8 years ago

    abeerer I have already shown from the Bible above that you are wrong by saying that it was Paul that started the belief that Jesus is the Son of God.  Why would I or any other Christian want to read something from a non-christian source to come to the Christian Truth.

  15. Mahmo profile image61
    Mahmoposted 8 years ago

    Then how do you want us to substantiate the incorrect information which appear here or there? I don't think at all that posting of links to external sites is something bad, unless
    you want browsers to stay blind of sourced information.I had never come accross such a
    rule in any other similar sites,instead they ecourage people to adduce their evidence.

  16. Bob Cedar profile image67
    Bob Cedarposted 8 years ago

    I'm just throwing this out there. Since religion isn't helping you, why don't you seek psychiatric help or support groups.

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    Ghost32posted 7 years ago

    One thing that hasn't been mentioned  (unless I missed, but I did try to at least scan each post in this thread) is that feeling like a failure is extraordinarily common.  So is suicide, with a number of suicidal events going unrecognized as such.

    Examples in my own family include my eighteen year old granddaughter who recently ate a .38 (very effective, if you must, and leaves no room for doubt)...and my father, who did not commit suicide but did consider himself a terrible life failure after serving in the U.S. Navy in World War II, ranching for many years, raising three kids who all eventually became college graduates and successful workers in one field or another, running his own mining corporation, and a number of other accomplishments the "outside world" considered admirable.

    Point being:  You are not alone.  Far from it.

    More importantly, however, you ask why Allah hates you.  I  use a different term for the Creator, but even so, it's doubtful the Almighty does hate you in the least.  It seems far more likely that you've been deemed fit to stand on your own two feet, and those feet are not doing for you what you feel they should.  One solution (as you've stressed in this thread) would be to get new feet--that is, to kill yourself.

    Unfortunately (from my perspective, and each of us has his own), the biggest problem with suicide is that it simply doesn't work.  I'm one of those believers in reincarnation and so far as I understand the process, you might well get some "Suicide Comprehension And Rehab 101" compulsory classes on The Other Side...but then you'd simply get shipped right back in a new body to see if you could get it right that time.

    Now, Medit8r, I don't know about you, but I hate childhood with a passion and detest babyhood worst of all.  There's all that pooping your own pants, getting either ignored or spanked for being a twit, everybody and everything including the family dog being bigger and stronger than you are, and that's all before you even get to the horrors of kindergarten.  Br-r-r-r!  Just thinking about it gives me the shivers.

    It's truly amazing that "everyone you have ever known" has achieved great happiness and/or success.  I've known thousands of individuals over the years, and I'm pretty sure I can count the folks who've accomplished either one (happiness or success) on one hand.  Either we truly meet dramatically different sorts of people, or something is skewed with your perception.

    If you truly do meet only those who've achieved greatly, hey, that's a TALENT.  But if it's your perception that's off, you may simply not be seeing deeply into those around you.  Chances are all those happy people are faking it and all those successful people are in debt up to their lying eyeballs.  This life is not easy, nor was it ever  billed to be.

    Still, that does not mean this life is not WORTH IT.  I've written a Hub here (or  more), but I'll sign off with one practical recommendation.  If you have time to read one book before you trip the trigger, I highly recommend Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz.  It's an old one, but it's still out there.

    And if you're in a bit too much of a hurry for that, just read the first 50 pages.  Most of the rest is redundant filler, anyway...but the first 50 are definitely worth a go.

    Best wishes, no matter how it goes.

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    Jim786posted 7 years ago

    Funny this is, that I felt like this way a while back ago but Alhumdulillah I am back on my feet and have no one else to thank but Allah subhanatallah.

    The problem: You might have had a bad childhood, or recent bad events that keep repeating themselves until they eat at you and you can no longer combat them on your own and you feel depressed, helpless, and confused.

    The Answer: The answer is not anything simpler than talking with someone, it might seem lame or it doesn't work, but hey, you've got nothing to lose right? Why sit there and ponder why life sucks instead of getting back up on your own two feet and realizing that you can get through this with the help of fellow Muslim brothers and sisters and Allah himself.

    I had a recent problem also that was solved and I feel soo much better because of the help of my fellow Muslims. I recommend you go to one of two websites and list your problems there, dont worry about being criticized, alhumdulillah these Muslims WILL help you inshallah.

    go to: 
    < no links please!>

    If this still doesn't seem to work, then message me and I will personally help you with your problem.

    Just remember, NEVER EVER doubt the power of Allah or a dua. It can be the difference from living the worst life possible or living the greatest life ever.

    Khudahafiz/Allahafiz

  19. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    Very sad.To believe in a non existent god to the degree that you take your own life because your god didn't love you does not leave a lot of room for any sensible psychological intervention.

    What is so sad is that this could be any one of us. Born into religion, indoctrinated and threatened from a young age by an invisible tyrant is the road to insanity.

    Any one of us could have been born in a country where they kill you for not believing their madness, or a family that does the same. We have had religious killings in Australia, not exactly a religious hothouse, but we do have too many fundies here of many religious persuasions.

    The Christian loons are no better than the others, killing people who don't agree with them.

    1. peptalk profile image60
      peptalkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Again earnest, I don't have any beef against a god or whatever higher power someone chooses to put faith in.  I blame the religions built around the chosen deity for the problems.

      I think that these people, like the one who originally posted, need to take a long sabbatical from their chosen 'club' and figure out who the heck they are and where their problems are coming from.  At some point you have to stop looking at everyone around you, and your alter gods, and realize that it's your friggin life, your problems, your issues.... take some responsibility!

      Sorry earnest, not railing against you really... more agreeing angrily!

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        smile

  20. Hokey profile image61
    Hokeyposted 7 years ago

    Oh yeah. And sh!t just happens. It's called life. Bad things don't happen to you because it's you. Stop taking everything so personally.

    1. peptalk profile image60
      peptalkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Me????

    2. mega1 profile image79
      mega1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That's great advice! I was gonna say - take a look around at other people's lives, nobody even the rich folks or the extra beautiful etc. have it easy - everybody struggles!  The trick is to make the struggle enjoyable and have good companions to help each other!

      You can believe in whatever god you want to, that's not going to make the difference, you need to put your life in your own hands!

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    lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago

    who?

    1. Hokey profile image61
      Hokeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Who what? smile

      1. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        why and where? geez.

        1. Hokey profile image61
          Hokeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I always thought is was where and why....   big_smile

          1. peptalk profile image60
            peptalkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            and how much?

  22. mega1 profile image79
    mega1posted 7 years ago

    everything you've got!

  23. Hokey profile image61
    Hokeyposted 7 years ago

    You need to focus on the present. Sounds like you are living in fear of the future. Stop trying to be a fortune teller and convincing yourself that everything is going to end up badly. Live now. In the moment. That will empower you to make the right decisions to move forward and not fear the future. You don't know what the future brings. None of us do.

    1. peptalk profile image60
      peptalkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No.... but it is not easy going forward.... the NOW has been working!

  24. profile image61
    mptcposted 7 years ago

    allah is no good for us what is he worth for? i mean speaking in reality allah is murderer,vicious,full of hatred incompassionate,
    foul,indescent shit who should be mocked at each and every time, personally i curse him 5 times a day i hate that bastard and his foul smelling idiotic prophet muhammad who taught people nothing but hatred towards the others. who was muhammad? a child rapist wife beater, terrorist and what more i should comment on that unholy shitt. allah says in quran to be patient But for how long should we keep patience? are we going to come back in this world again? what is patience worth if the fruit gets dried up?

  25. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    I take it your not a devout Muslim then mptc? lol

  26. profile image61
    mptcposted 7 years ago

    what is religion? a fairly tale which has no truth within itself.so why praise allah,jesus,krishna,buddha and etc etc bullshits. this is our life we are the ones who will decide our fate and destiny so why to keep faith on something which has no proof that the things in the past existed? i have read quran couple of times and i want to ask a muslim about it >>> if i take  each and every good point form other religious scriptures or if i take scientific facts and then comile it into a single book and name that book as ABC or whatever will it be called as the proof of scientific existence in that religion or in that religious book? no way god never existed ppll waste their time in praying,worshipping,chanting bogus shiits!!! does praying not diverts you from doing necessary things? so mr DEEPREESED whether allah loves or hates u doesnt matter what matters is how u respond to the situations inaccordance to the problems so dont waste your time in religious bogus.. i suffer from the same problem that you are having but the only difference is i dont rely on FAIRY TALES as you do.

  27. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    No argument from me! smile

 
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