jump to last post 1-6 of 6 discussions (42 posts)

People who demand proof of God really don't want any

  1. janesix profile image61
    janesixposted 4 years ago

    It's sad really. They want so badly to NOT believe there is a God.

    There is proof of God everywhere. Just look. That's all.

    Heck, if you want proof, just as God Himself. He will show you proof to your heart's content.

    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Seems to me that the demand for proof is generally in response to unsubstantiated claims that He is there coupled with a demand that the listener believe the claim and behave "appropriately" (whatever that means).

      Just as your claim does.  My eyes are at least as good as yours, but they see no proof.  Just rationalization by believers that want to believe so badly that they will claim anything at all as absolute proof.

      1. janesix profile image61
        janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Then you are not really looking.

        Try looking inside yourself for a start.

        Ask God for proof if you can't figure it out. He will oblige, happily.

        Do you want to know if there is a God, Wilderness?

        1. getitrite profile image81
          getitriteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          "Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat...that isn't there...and finding it.”
          ~~ Oscar Wilde

        2. A Troubled Man profile image61
          A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Are you saying we need an MRI to see God?

        3. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I would love to know the answer to that question. 

          Looking to my own thoughts and emotions, however, does not provide a definitive answer.  There is absolutely no way to tell where those thoughts are coming from; my own mind or were they "implanted" there by a god? 

          "Asking" god for help produces the same dilemma; does the answer come from own emotions and desire, or from a god that stuck the answer there?  Believers are happy to declare the answer is from God, but they cannot know that irregardless of what they may claim.  People DO have a conscience, they DO (generally) know right from wrong and they CAN make guesses as to the future.  They can produce the same answers as God can, without any intervention from Him.  No way to tell where it came from.

    2. profile image0
      Emile Rposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I've always thought the people who continuously demand proof of God do want it. Why would they seek out religious people and ask for it? If they weren't interested; then they'd find more interesting things to do. But, I don't see how telling them the proof is all around them is helpful. If they believed that, they wouldn't be asking for proof.

      1. A Troubled Man profile image61
        A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        +1 smile

    3. Sapper profile image73
      Sapperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Your right, lets try this. If there really is a god, show yourself to prove me wrong.........Maybe he's on his lunch break? I'll try again later.

      There is a difference between not wanting proof, and there not being any.

      On a side note, I see someone got fed after midnight again. They're all cute and cuddly till you break the rules, then this is what we get.

      1. janesix profile image61
        janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        This is what we get? Not sure what you mean.

        1. Sapper profile image73
          Sapperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          After posting that, I figured I'd time-stamp myself. It's from Gremlins, you're a troll.

          1. janesix profile image61
            janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Ah.

            How am I a troll?

            I profess my faith and want other's to believe, so that makes me a troll?

            I might be annoying to those who don't want to hear what I have to say, but it doesn't make me a troll.

  2. chaoticpsyche profile image59
    chaoticpsycheposted 4 years ago

    I posted for proof of God and really would like proof. I desperately want to believe. I feel my life would be better if I believed in God. Some people just blindly believe. I can't do that. For me it's hard to believe in something that there is no tangible proof.

    1. janesix profile image61
      janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      There is no proof.

      There are clues.

      Keep seeking God, and He will give you all the proof you need.

  3. tussin profile image59
    tussinposted 4 years ago

    People who ask for proof of God usually do so in response to a religious person pestering them about their lack of beliefs.  Of course they don't want any proof and there is none anyway.  They just want the religious people to leave them alone and keep their religious beliefs to themselves.

    1. janesix profile image61
      janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Interesting. I've never once pestered someone about their lack of belief. Why do athiests insist on joining religious threads? Why don't they just stick to politics or Brittney Spears or Princess Kate's breast shots? Those are the really important issues, are they not?

      1. Sapper profile image73
        Sapperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        And that's why you're a troll. I knew given enough time, you'd hang yourself.

      2. tussin profile image59
        tussinposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Indeed they are. Perhaps there is a hard-up man somewhere out there who takes Princess Kate's heavenly breasts to be evidence of God.

        Anyway, I didn't say you were pestering anyone.

      3. A Troubled Man profile image61
        A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Unfortunately, like politics, Britney Spear and breast shots of celebrities, your religion is out in the public forum where it doesn't belong and we would be very happy to ignore it entirely if it just remained behind closed doors where it does belong.

        1. janesix profile image61
          janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I disagree. This is a public religious forum.

          Me knocking on your door or posting religiosity in non-religious forums would be pestering.

          1. A Troubled Man profile image61
            A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            So what?



            But unfortunately, you support the organization, the beliefs and the commands to pester the world with that religion and you create threads and posts telling us to accept Jesus. That indeed is pestering.

            1. janesix profile image61
              janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Don't read religious forums if you don't want to hear about religion. Problem solved!

              1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                Mark Knowlesposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Where else to educate the ignorant?

                1. janesix profile image61
                  janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Exactly , Mark

                  tongue

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                    Mark Knowlesposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Sorry you are incapable of understanding. It must be very frustrating for you.

                    Try claiming Jesus instead. That seems easy.

              2. A Troubled Man profile image61
                A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Oh, I see now, you want me to shove it.

                For the record, these are public forums, not religious public forums.

                You can find a religious public forum here...

                http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/

                This is a public forum with many categories, not just religion.

                Please make a note of this for future reference. Problem solved!

  4. aware profile image72
    awareposted 4 years ago

    prove gods a he?  i hope in a god.  i don't insist that god is a man. insistence isn't proof  of anything.

    1. janesix profile image61
      janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      That was beautifully articulated. Thank you.

  5. PaulGoodman67 profile image90
    PaulGoodman67posted 4 years ago

    I would love to see proof that God exists.  Please supply some.  Or be quiet.  wink

    1. janesix profile image61
      janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I never claimed to have proof of God.

      I will never be quiet.

      1. getitrite profile image81
        getitriteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Then by your very own admission, your whole premise is completely absurd.

        How can you plead with others to accept something as REAL whenever you have no proof?  What a thoroughly indoctrinated mind?

        We demand proof.  If that is asking too much then you really are just playing childish, psychotic games.

        1. janesix profile image61
          janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          You are being closed minded.

          1. getitrite profile image81
            getitriteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff86/donvader88/Myspace%20stuff/Logic.jpg

            1. janesix profile image61
              janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I might be illogical, I'll give you that. I am not unintelligent.

        2. janesix profile image61
          janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Demand proof from God, not from me.

          I have said before, God cannot be proven in the usual manner. Only God can provide the proof to you. Ask him.

          1. getitrite profile image81
            getitriteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            What if I think I'm asking God, but it turns out that I'm only talking to myself...but then start believing that I'm talking to a REAL God...and start following the voices I believe to be God, but suppose that in reality, there is no God?  And I become a victim of false hope, fraud, and mental illness...Could I sue you for misrepresentation?

            1. janesix profile image61
              janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Sure you could sue me, but you wouldn't be getting much.

          2. A Troubled Man profile image61
            A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Dear God, you have an opportunity to redeem janesix by supporting her claims.

            We await your proof.

            http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Everything_Else/Clocks/Grandfather_clock.gif

            1. janesix profile image61
              janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I'm very proud of you! You're on the right track now.

      2. A Troubled Man profile image61
        A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        You will never be quiet and you have no proof.

        And, you don't think that's obsessive behavior?

        1. janesix profile image61
          janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Possibly.

  6. getitrite profile image81
    getitriteposted 4 years ago

    http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Everything_Else/Clocks/Grandfather_clock.gif

 
working