Whom do you Love Most after GOD ? Father, Mother, Wife, Son, Daughter , Nation, Friends .How much time this Love is going to Last long. Do you expect something in return for your Love? Brief Answer in not more than three sentences.
Highly Complex. Will you like your the same answer from kids when they have kids .
Not very complex at all, is it? I would love for my kids to love God first, their spouses 2nd and their children 3rd... Actually, I would love for them to love all of mankind, but I don't think you meant a blanket kind of love. You meant an intense kind of love.
The awesome thing about love is there is no limit to the amount of ppl we can love. Some men's wheels are already turning... "Good cause my secretary looks like she could use some lovin'." haha, that's not what I mean. Romantic love has a few boundaries, but love itself is limitless.
Knowing I could not keep it to 3 sentences, I resisted responding, but decided to apologize in advance for the longer than requested post, and answer anyway.
God, child, spouse, then extended family, (parents, siblings, cousins, aunts, uncles, inlaws, friends, etc.). True love is not conditional, and therefore would never end. People I love who do not reciprocate damage our relationship and hamper, if not suspend our interaction, but my love remains and if they needed me I would help them if I could. Those expecting anything in exchange for their "love" are unfortunate because what they are calling love is really a negotiated contract or expectation, which is therefore tenuous and insecure. If you find yourself wondering if you are getting equitable value for your "love" investment, that is not love at all.
I would like to focus on one particular statement; "True love is not conditional" to show how the OP and everyone's responses here are a contradiction to that statement.
A 'condition' is defined simply as "a restricting, limiting, or modifying circumstance or a situation with respect to circumstances."
You are indeed setting conditions by listing in order of preference the love you share. Stating that you have expectations of reciprocation for your shared love is also a condition. In other words, your shared love IS conditional.
The reason for that is because religions like Christianity have devalued the meaning of love to the point it has lost all of it's meaning. The OP and this thread are hard evidence to support that fact.
I would challenge all those who responded here to have a good hard look deep into the eyes of your loved ones and honestly tell yourself you have conditions for your love of them. You can't do it.
Actually, there is a utube. Maybe I'll work up the energy to find it. Or maybe not.
I don't think I could choose between my husband, my grown children, or my grandkids.
Those that I love are far too many people who I have never met. People who dared to face down their abusers in an atmosphere of total hopelessness such as the slaves and those brave individuals who stepped out of their comfort zone and said NO to the inhumanity of the 40s and the 60s.
I love myself. I believe that through loving myself I can express love well to my parents and siblings.
How can any moral person state that they love an imaginary God more than they love their precious little ones?
This was a great experiment and what it shows is that when the super-ego is left unchecked by the ego people will say anything to get good standing with their peers. Expressing more love for a fictitious God than ones own child is an example. You should also be aware that the God of the bible doesn't have unconditional love for people. He places conditions when he limits heaven to only certain people.
And the God of the OT is an irascible, severe psychopath....deserving nothing but scorn from anyone considering himself to be moral...yet we are to love Him more than our own children...??? Where is the disconnect?
You guys better stop reading the bible. get your nose out of that book... you just can't handle it. it is psychologically damaging to you... and has actually already damaged you. Ya gotta be strong to read that book. It is a no no for both of you atheists. I love God. HA! I love ALL that GOD has created. If you want to perceive GOD, go find an 8 month old human baby... any one will do... and just observe that baby for as long as you can... You will find God... You will love God. You will believe in GOD!
I think I finally get it now. Thank you, Kathryn, you've opened my eyes to a much bigger world. Why didn't I see that before.
God is poop in a diaper!
In other words, we need to see things the way all these delusional Christians see them?
When I look at an 8 month old baby, all I see is an 8 month old baby. The fact that you can look at an 8 month old baby and see an imaginary being is cause for great concern.
No I said observe. I mean observe very objectively without feelings of how cute or how poopy or how hard it is to take care of, or how many nights of sleep the parents are deprived of during the first three years. No, just watch in a non subjective way. If you try to follow the baby for too long you will get exhausted... I mean really... it is very interesting to watch a baby in the process of incarnating into his body through his senses and body sensations. It must be done as a scientist, observing his specimen...
O b s e r v e a baby!
Ok, I have had time to observe a baby, and I still don't see any imaginary beings. I observed the baby just as objectively as possible, but still no sign of any imaginary deities. This probably just doesn't work, unless one replaces objective observation with subjective observation....which is nothing but mere conjecture in this case.
Perhaps I will try objectively observing a baby horse the next time. Maybe that'll work.
-yes, that would also work.
There are no imaginary deities involved, BTW!
The assignment is to watch, as objectively as possible,(no imagining allowed,) the will to live, the joy of life and the percolating animating principle behind life, itself. It is the most evident in the very young. Without a strong sense of joy and will to live (as implanted within them by nature) they would die.
I've got three of my own, but while I think it's an amazing process it's also thee process. If you ever what to do a reality check just go down to your nearest child hospital and has a look around at the ill children. Are you worshiping a God that allows children to die a painful slow death?
No, Rad Man. So, go to the hospital and see, that despite their problems, the children smile, they love, they are exhibiting spirit unaffected by their problems. That percolating ever new joy despite all problems is evidence of the spirit of God indwelling. I only respond because I like to share.
I am quite convinced of my viewpoints, so why would you try to convince ME otherwise? You know my views by now.
This is a two way street.
Spouting that children with cancer and their parents don't suffer is either delusional or a lie.
Are you anti-God? What is someone called when they are against God? or angry with God. I just realized you may not be an atheist at all.
Actually there are probably more reasons to love God than not to! just depends on what you choose to focus on. You and I have opposite focuses! Would you agree with that?
Calling me the anti-christ because I disagree with you in childish. I don't believe there is a God because any loving God would not allow this suffering. I don't hate anything, I don't believe it exists.
You point to an 8 month old baby to see God.
I point to an 8 month old baby with terminal cancer to see a universe without a God.
You imply I'm the anti-christ.
Jesus said God is greater than I. I was talking about God.
BTW: Who would I love after God un-posessively?? NO one! At one point I tried to love all people with love in my heart... I couldn't do it... until I realized that God exists in them all.
LOL. Sorry, but happy children is not evidence for gods. That is just plain ridiculous.
So you think the Father is at fault for the illnesses we and our children get? Just when should we be concerned about weaknesses in the childs body, which make it susceptible to disease? The time we start preparing to build a strong immune system in the child is many months before conception. If, however, that is too late and the child is here and sick at the time, we have to work on the present cause; but this effort could have been avoided had we started a few generations back. Over the past several generations, catering to our taste buds has pulled us away from eating wholesome foods. We have now switched over to the processed merchandise (we can hardly call this food), to not only pamper the taste bud, but eliminate a lot of time in food preparation. Through processing our food we have depleated it of many minerals, vitamins, natural fiber, etc., and have wound up with junk materials that are not fit for man or beast. With each generation that pulls away from wholesome food, we add insult to injury by weakening our children, who pass the same weakenesses on to their children. As our society becomes more modern the problem gets even worse as more inorganic additives (and in many instances cancer causing preservatives) are being used. It is almost like a new challenge. Lets preserve the food stuffs, not the people! A child could live without fear of sickness of crippling disease if he had, in the beginning, a good strong body. Disease germs are scavengers and can live only on weak wasting-away cells, excess mucus, and toxic conditions. Never can germs thrive in a healthy and clean cell structure. Prior to marriage (or whenever planning to have children) is the time to set the stage for the healthy offsprings to follow. Prepare the parent-to-be to live for abundant health so they will be able to have healthy children. Put the blame where it belongs.
I don't think God is at fault because there is no God, I know this because no loving God would allow this suffering. So all we have to do is eat better and all cancer would disappear.
Nonsense. My point is when someone says you need to look at life to see God, you can also look at the cruelty of life to see the lack of God.
I think they may have meant, to look at life ( everything living) is to see the existence of the Father. Of course, if you don't believe in something, you can't expect results from that something, and that something can be anything. Believers have a tendency to ask Him for all these miracles when He gave them principles to live by, be healthy by, and get well by and they did not follow them. Go figure. But it would be foolish of me to get into that with someone who does not believe. There is nothing we could say to each other that would change our positions and as an esteemed member of the forums (JCL) brought to another's (and mine) attention, bringing the Father into it will just keep possibly good information from being digested or even recognized. I save my spiritual debates (for the most part) for fellow believers. As far as eating better, it's a great start. 90% of all dis-ease begins in the bowel. That means the dinner table is the main culprit. Along with our environment, the dirty air, filthy, polluted water, contaminated soil, chemical pesticides and fertilizers, genetically modified foods, all man-made. The blame is still ours. Detoxify (cleanse) the body's systems properly, oxyginate, bring your body pH in balance, proper diet, drink clean water, exercise, proper rest, and you won't get sick. Cancer is merely cell deteriation (manufactured from our putrid body condition). It's an acidic condition of the body, as all dis-ease is. Check it out. Anytime you are sick, your body is acid. You start to correct dis-ease, by removing the acidic condition, from a cellular level.
Thank You, George Osawa, Naboro Muramoto, Michio Kushi! Not to mention Dr. Bernard Jensen!
Yeah Kathryn. Let me add to the list. Antoine Bechamp had the most profound discovery of the 19th and 20th century, with the exception maybe of Nikola Tesla. Antoine uncovered the tiny living ferments which he named microzymas (micro-enzymes). Gunther Enderlein, Royal Rife, Gershon, William Reich, Gaston Naessens, cellular biologists. Nothing like a little alfalfa
I would have to say that I love myself first. Even before God because I don't really believe in him. Because if one doesn't love herself first, there is not enough love to love others. Then I love my parents most because they have give me life. After that I love my fiancé most because he just is the most wonderful person in the world.
Mother and then Father.
Mothers always sacrifice a lot, for the happiness of her husband and children. A mother has an undetectable bond with her child. She always does her best, to make her family happy.
Fathers usually go to jobs, and return home for dinner, and that's usually the case in almost every family. Yes, fathers do care about their children, but cannot do many things, like the mother can to her child.
You missed the point. You are talking about after conception, after birth, after illness. I am talking about during the (should be) planning stage. Long before any of the afore mentioned happens. If you and your spouse are healthy, not just starting to try and do the right things during pregnacy, but making a healthy way of life a way of life, many months before and continuing after conception, pregnacy, and birth, who goes to work and who stays home will not matter health wise Even possibilities from genetics, if you know what they are, can be avoided. The father-to-be, if his reproductive organs are in good clean healthy condition, the seed for conception will be an improvement over seed of questionable quality. Exactly as for the female, a proper mucusless diet and reproductive organ rebuilding will be an asset to the future family and another aid in preventing childhood diseases. Again, all this starts many months in advance. Good health is simple, not necessarily easy (it requires discipline), but amazingly simple.
My Parents as they are the only one who supports me all the time.
I love my mom, she is everything to me, Today in life where am i now only because for her.
Love is never unconditional. The condition is the feeling you get in being in love, or loving. So, it springs from 'me' and I love myself most.
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