janesix, It's GOD. I was vacationing in Jamaca, but I'm back now. Clean your room, say 4 Our Father's and 2 Hail Mary's and whatever you do, don't listen to brotheryochanan.
Rad man, Im just curious. Why is this mainly the only topic here that interests you?
Good question Beth, most likely because we don't get to talk much about it in the real world and I'm fascinated in the different things people believe. I've played around a little in the political forums, but as I'm in Canada and have little interest in politics except for how and when politics are affected by religion. Anyhow religion and faith fascinates me. I was just reading about the church of latter-day Saints and what they believe. I understand what they believe, but I struggle with the why. Someone can just make stuff up and people will believe him. I think I'm starting to understand the psychology behind it.
For you 3 Our Fathers and 3 hail Mary's and don't listen to brotheryochanan as he has (from what I can tell) no sense of humour.
"Nothing. Where are you God?"
God: "Everything. Just look for me within yourself deeply and earnestly!"
God is walking in his garden in the cool of the day wondering, where is janesix? It's been over six weeks!
Just go into your bathroom and look into the mirrorat the wall :-)
Come on, God. I remember when you used to tell me dirty jokes. Where's the fun?
The god who would tell you dirty jokes would indeed leave you in order to confuse you adding to its deception.
God, whom only has your best interests at heart will always communicate with you unless you were exercising some rebellious attitude, such is the case, "Adam where are you"?
But obviously you were listening to the wrong god before.
You have obviously never met God. Who do you think invented irony and humor?
Perhaps you invented inference since you claimed it with all hubrousness.
Some things are sober topics indeed. I would answer your question by saying that man invented, umm discovered perhaps is a better word, irony and humor and God told us when and how to appropriately use them.
That is your opinion.
Have you ever really talked to God? Did He talk back? Did HE interfere in your life?
Sorry, God's over at my place. We've been playing a lot of Skyrim and watching movies. He really enjoys Monty Python's Life of Brian, oddly enough.
Have you signed up for the 'Do Not Call' list recently? The whole God idea is a solicitor, of sorts.
I think you're all being pretty offensive, but maybe I wasn't invited on this thread. Maybe this is a closed door, private type of only-say-what-you'd-say-if no-one-else-could-be-hurt-or-offended type of thread.
I think some people don't have enough to do in their offline lives. No matter. This one's a tongue-in-cheek fest.
Could you explain? I don't see where anyone is attempting to offend.
This is just a bunch of folks having a snarky bit of fun. Think about it...haven't heard from god for more than six weeks? That's hilarious and worth a bit of back and forth.
Are you saying she was joking? OK. But I missed the joke.
I have no doubt that God has a sense of humor. The point seems to be another stab at God, another stab at ppl with faith, if there is another way some of these comments were intended, I missed it and I apologize.
*You wouldn't. lol
Alright then, if you meant God no disrespect, I wont take offense either.
Don't take this the wrong way, but I wouldn't think it would be your place to be offended at a joke about God. If you believe, don't you think he is big enough to take a joke? I have years of anecdotal evidence that says if God exists, he has to have a great sense of humor.
My dad was way bigger than me... oddly enough if you were to mock him, I'd be just as offended, whether he had it in his power to smush you or not.
Seriously? I loved my Dad but he could laugh at himself better than anyone could laugh at him. I laughed at him and with him.
It may not show here but I have a pretty sharp sense of humor and as far as I could see, those jokes were designed to laugh at God not with Him... but again, maybe I misunderstood. You might have felt comfortable taking jabs at your dad, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it... you love him and I wouldn't want to hurt either one of you or disrespect either one of you in any way. Do you see what Im saying?
No. I think what you are saying is that others should change behavior patterns to suit your preferences; out of courtesy to the insecurities of others. Or, you will endeavor to persevere. As if your offense is caused by others and not brought on by your own choice to be offended.
Think about it. You believe God exists. I assume you would also believe him all powerful. If God isn't secure enough in who he is, in who you are, in who everyone is.....don't you think he'd have spoken up eons ago? I was raised to believe (and have come to agree with what I was taught) that offense is a sign of insecurity. Would a creator be insecure? Could a creator be insecure and create the reality we exist in?
Are you daft? Of course they mean to disrespect God, and offend all believers. Not only are they facetious, they are liars as well.
Did not brother Peter warn of these venomous, vehement vermin, "Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, 'Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.'”
Yes, I am quite often daft. Aren't you lovely?
I am not here to sugar coat the truth. You are not daft, but you are being walked down the road by these mockers as if you are. They do not care to be in fellowship with you. They are setting a trap for the unsuspecting and sweet of spirit such as yourself. You walk with God, and they would dissuade you, if it were possible.
Some may even be on the payroll.
You know it is true. You are trolling for believers to waylay. You do not fool me at all. Wake up!
The earth will be completely laid waste and completely despoiled, for the Lord has spoken this word. The earth mourns and withers, the world fades and withers, the exalted of the people of the earth fade away. The earth is also polluted by its inhabitants, for they transgressed laws, violated statutes, and broken the everlasting covenant.
God is nothing like you think.
The Bible is someone's interpretation of spiritual events that they don't understand. Nobody understands God's purpose. I KNOW he is not all sweetness and light. HE created everything, good and bad. There is no end of the world coming up, I can assure you.
Stop listening to what other people say and try to figure this out for yourself.
What you perceive as being fooled, I call being a peacemaker. I will do my best to be at peace with all men at all times, which includes you. However, if a really good opportunity for my sarcastic nature pops up, I can't make any promises.
You will not be able to make peace with these.
I notice you popped up at a moment when someone was actually having a kind of good moment. It's almost like *you were on the payroll... However, you have that official name and avatar so I spose that can't be true.
Your good moment was not real, and I am a friend, "The treacherous deal treacherously, and the treacherous deal very treacherously.”
She already has with me. She seems like a good person and I mean her no harm nor would I like to change her beliefs or faith.
Thanks Radman, and I, in all honesty, would love to see you come to a different knowledge of God, but that is out of love and not b/c I get points for converts. At least if I do, I didn't know... Ive fallen pretty far behind.
Good. Then lets spread the love of God and let Him judge all of our fates.
So you just joined eh?
I am only visiting. My spirit lead me here. I will be gone before sundown on other business. My fate, and yours are sealed.
Ah, well the spirit of God is a better spirit to be lead by, but Im glad we got to meet. Are you a senor or a senorita?
His Spirit is intertwined with our own, or not.
Does it matter? Before the Lord there is neither male nor female.
That's true, Im not the Lord though, Im just Beth so I was wondering... its weird that you wanna keep it a secret, but considering my track record, it may be a good thing. Oh well... you'd best be going, nightfall is coming. (Does that mean you're not in the US I presume?) I spose nationality doesn't matter before the Lord either.
Plenty of time left.
Your track record has nothing to do with tomorrow. You are a wonderful lady and the Lord will not withhold what you need.
There is neither Scythian, nor slave.
Scythian... that is a word you don't often see anymore... it's like leviathan.
Scythian is metaphorical for a citizen of an undesirable culture. Leviathan is metaphorical for a beast that is impossible for a man to control for its size and power.
Is that so? I always assumed leviathan was simply a huge underwater creature... but aren't you just a fount of information.
And that because a leviathan is a huge underwater creature and The Scythians were an Iranian nomadic people living in Scythia.
Are you going to finish the sentence, or complete the thought?
It is often taught that way. It has been said that a leviathan is a crocodile, elephant, dinosaur, rhinoceros, and so on. What is important is that a man can never hope to tame it.
You're right. That is important. Rhino's cannot be tamed.
hahaha... you're not who you present yourself to be... are you the chicken man?
Sorry, I am not savvy to your esoteric reference.
lol... ok Mr. You win. You are just POH then... which is a scrabble word. I use it all the time, but I don't know the meaning... I bet *you do!
oh wait, I don't know where I got the H from... I guess you're just POO... sorry.
It is not wise to mock a prophet. You do not want to be like the weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
I do not read hubs. I have already told you that you will do well in the future. You have a lot to give.
The problems that you have endured are not just because of you. You are not self serving. Realize this. In the last days difficult times will come. Men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.
It is hard not to be swept by the current when you get in too deep, too fast.
Quoting scripture doesn't make you a Christian... you could be anyone. Saying you're a friend and a brother doesn't make you one. You should reveal yourself, not hide. Truth and honesty is of God. Hiding... now that's a different story.
When are human beings NOT that way? That is all normal human behavior.
To you. The words are true, are they not? Man has become depraved.
Ok, but the last thing you said seemed a little sexual... maybe Im just jaded.
Love your brother (neighbor) as you love yourself. Of course, first, you must learn to love yourself.
LOL. How incredibly childish. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so...
Scrabble? Czar, tzar, tsar,csar, and more are all in the dictionary. Not only do you get rid of a "Z", but someone always challenges the second spelling.
LOL. In other words, it can be whatever ones addled imagination can muster.
I had a vision this morning that you would bless us with your presence, but only for a short time. My vision of a spiritual nature are always real and always come true. The vision instructed me to tell you that you should stop being so abrasive and become one with us on our journey through time. Bless you.
And what of you mister sock puppet, are you friend or foe?
I might take offense if this didn't appear to be a joke.
Oh. You must be one of those who think tha God is all sweetness and light. I don't understand how people can think that way. Weird.
I think this thread was started to spark some fun and creative banter. That it's in a forum where hot debates happen because of peoples' beliefs, well, I guess that intensified a few things. But, Beth, if you're offended by where this thread went, then I hope you reconsider. God's big enough to appreciate a banter about himself (wish I were that big!). I suspect he'll forgive us all for our human ways.
I already told her if she meant no disrespect, I wouldn't take any offense.
And, I'll say again. It really isn't any of your business to determine what may or may not be offensiveto an assumed deity. Unless, you expect us to think you are God. And then, I would think a lack of a sense of humor would be the least of your concerns.
Ppl seem to be very detached from God. If they do think of Him, it's in the sense that the idea of Him was forced on them/society as youths, and now they have wised up and rejected the ridiculous notion. No matter what the case, my point is that what may be a pot shot at "a god" in the sky, real to you or not... to *me and ppl like me, you have taken a shot at someone I love. Someone I have dedicate my life to, someone I would give my life for and who has rescued me from a fate worse than death. It may seems like a little joke, but in a forum where God is nothing short of blasphemed, I can't help but to say... "Hey, would you mind pointing that thing the other way."
This is why I brought up the notion of insulting my biological dad... so that maybe you would understand it is a personal thing to me. Thanks for understanding.
I'm not attempting to be difficult here, but it isn't so much my need to understand as it is your need to stop attempting to force your beliefs on others. And expecting others to change behavior patterns to be in line with your sensibilities is exactly that. It's great that you have decided you need a God and that you feel he was your salvation. However, even believers don't claim God is a person. Don't attempt to convince others that your feelings on the matter should take precedence over their own. And don't compare him to your biological father, unless you are now claiming to be the last scion.
Well alrighty then Emile. I spose that's the way it is in the world now. Like I said, I hope you have a good night.
So, just to be clear, you expect Beth to change her behavior patterns to be in line with your sensibilities which tell you that she should not expect others to change behavior patterns to be in line with her sensibilities. How is that not the epitome of hypocrisy?
Probably isn't hypocritical because if I don't like something, I avoid it; as opposed to insisting my opinion of the sensibilities of a cosmic entity should take precedence and everyone should tow my line.
See the difference? Probably not. Does that mean there is no difference? No.
Sorry, but your imaginary God is not the same thing as a biological dad by any stretch of the imagination. Just because you believe in an invisible sky daddy, don't expect it's going to command any respect whatsoever, quite the contrary, it should be ridiculed.
We are doing the good cop/bad cop scenario. I was totally setting you all up. lol
I don't frequently chime in anymore, but blatant irony can be hard to pass up.
Well I appreciate you caring enough to say so.
Well Im glad this thread was all meant in good fun as purported.
Well, you made it clear you were offended upon arrival. It simply seemed someone should give you what you wanted so you didn't have to fabricate offense.
Emile, I don't know how old you are, so I will just assume you are a mature adult. I have spoken kindly and truthfully to you since my arrival. I have appealed to your sense of understanding and walked away several times allowing you the final say in the debate. If you cannot respect my perspective, then I can only imagine that you choose not to or you can't understand the opinion Im trying to share with you. Ive made it as clear as possible and spoken as humbly as possible. I am a sinner, I fail daily, but I love my God and when I see Him mocked, I hope that I will always speak up on His behalf. I know His love for me is great and I owe Him so much. He loves you too Emile.
You speak on your own behalf. You don't speak for a deity. So, you are not really being honest. Are you?
And, I am aware that I have come off as rude, in your opinion. Are you aware how rude you have come off? I don't get the impression you do. So, which behavior is the more considerate?
I am not speaking *for God, I believe there in-lies the misunderstanding. I am speaking as one who loves God. I guess you don't follow, and that's ok.
Im sorry you think I was rude. I will cut the back and forth short and wish you well yet again.
I wish you well also, but I'd have been happier if you had understood the point. I do understand yours, I simply think refusing to take into account the goodness in others, while trying ingratiate oneself to God goes against everything good that can be found in religion.
Have you ever really talked to God? Did He talk back? Did HE interfere in your life?
= - = - = - = -
YES HE Has. Did he tell me how sweet and special I am? NO ...
Did he tell me what to do? NO ... but I learned things which caused me to make a different choice than I would have. He even steped out in front of me once when I was driving like a mad man causing me to slam on the brakes; then he disapeared. And around the next curve a car was stalled out in the middle of a dark winding country road.
He even told me the secretes of the universe one day, but before I could write down a single word...... It all melted from my mind.
Has he talked to me? I can't begin to tell you how many times.
I had the same experience when I was much younger. I was given the secrets of the universe, but I couldn't hold onto them long enough to remember them. I was even given the winning lottery tickets once and was able to write them down, but because I don't gamble I didn't play, but I still have the lottery numbers as evidence.
right on man, cool
I'm kind of glad he's leaving me alone right now.
I'm done with spirituality. Fourth density nonsense for me all the way.
If you were done with it, you wouldn't be posting on this forum. You don't even want to let it go by my estimation.
lol, you are probably right. It frustrates me.
Im really sorry. Don't be frustrated. Just know nothings final yet. Life is a continual progression. God has not forgotten you. He's waiting patiently. He loves you.
I know I made a joke about this, but at the core there is the basis of truth.
I also apologize to anyone I offended.
I read this the other day and wanted to say something but didn't know what. wasn't trying to be rude. and don't know if this is it either but here it is.
Everyone has gotta be doing something diffrent than everyone else.
Everyone can't be serving or there would be no one for the servers to serve.
If everyones hobby was fishing, all them people making golf clubs would be out of a job.
If everybody were truck drivers nobody would be loading the truck.
Just keep doing what you are doing ........ it pleases somebody.
that didn't make sence but it pleased me to type it.
Why am I the only one here with a real name and pic? lol... Somethings odd.
Yet you wonder why you have stalkers?
NEVER use your pic for an avatar. Or your name. Think about it.
You showed up at a masquerade flea market without a costume.
And wth is a masquerade flea market? (ooh, you're a little edit fiend aren't you?)
No, not unless they are recipes for macaroons.
This is not the only quark, drupal based program on the planet, sister.
Admittedly, my schedule has not allowed me to spend much time here, but my intent is to publish information for those seeking knowledge of God, and discernment. Much of what I publish will be controversial and very unpopular. I have a great deal of responsibility and people relying on me, (which is why I have such difficulty finding time to write), even though I average only 2 - 3 hrs for sleep. So far, all I have been able to manage with Hubpages is quick comments here and there, which I enjoy, as I work. Bottom line is I will do this project as time allows, hopefully more in the not too distant future, but need not have it cause difficulty for those counting on me. I am also a long time student of prophecy and aware that very difficult times are upon us. There is no such thing as anonymity anymore, but why make it easy?
You need more sleep. That is not healthy.
Aw, look how the profit of old cares about you berean.
Long story. Child with multiple disabilities needing 24x7. I relieve my wife whenever home, but as the only provider must work 60 + hours per week, plus commuting. I can do better without the sleep than my wife. My child prefers to sleep when I am gone, wants to interact when I am home. Have been doing this over 20 years and am used to little sleep. Sometimes I get to catch up a bit on weekends. Anyway, no real choice. Thank you for your concern.
Interesting... well, we all need to do what works for us.
I gotta get ready for work. I am so dreaming of that Officer and a Gentleman scene at the end right now, remember... ugh. I don't want to go in today.
You have no knowledge of God, no one does.
Holy cow, it just got rough around here... the profit of old told me to get a clue.
The Lord is with you. He will not leave you or forsake you. Peace.
That was for all who enter. Do you feel the peace?
Ill let you know.
Berean, I thought you were a woman... don't know why, I just assumed... maybe because you seemed caring... maybe that is b/c of caring for your wife and child for so long. Anyway, I wish you both well and a good day to you. Ill be back in 7 or so hours, take care.
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