I awoke this morning with a sense that someone else was in the room, but my wife had already left for the fitness club. Up until now I've not been a very spiritual man, but I had a profound sense that something important was happening. I opened up my mind to the possibility that it was real and then it happened. Thoughts came into my head that I couldn't explain and they didn't appear to be my thoughts. The thoughts told me to play the lottery (which I haven't done in 10 years) with a certain set of numbers that I wrote down and that the winning should go to help feed the hungry.
I have to be honest I'm a little afraid because nothing like this has ever happened to me before, should I play the lottery with these numbers?
Yes. Yes. What could you lose? One dollar. What could you gain? Something more interesting than money, but money is always nice.
I don't really need or even want the money for myself with all this money I'm making on HubPages, but I sure would love to feed the less fortunate.
Your desire to feed them won't buy the groceries. Go for it.
Okay Emile and habee, I'll have James pull the Bentley around for me, wish me luck. Kidding. I feel I've turned a new page. No more mister bitter, angry Rad Man. I think I better delete some of my hubs. ;-)
Oh, don't delete anything. Life is a journey. If you move into new territory it doesn't negate the value of thoughts where you once stood.
Wise words, but I'm going to have to do some self exploration. I may be gone for a while.
Let me put my 2 cents in. By all means play. You might win. And you don't have to even think it had something to do with the Father. All these folks out here praying for the winning numbers:) He ain't in the lottery.
Let's think about this. Rad man felt a presence. That presence told him the lottery numbers and to use the winnings to feed the poor. If it does pan out, whether it is 'the father' or not. Something was definitely there. That, in and of itself, would be incredibly interesting.
Satan? Wishing to provide lots of money to tempt with? Will he keep it or give it away?
Definately play those numbers Rad Man. Someone is telling you something so listen to them. Prayers are coming your way.
Is this not the behavior that atheist are quick to label as psychotic of those who claim belief in a god?
Do what you can to help feed the hungry today. And good luck with them numbers.
all levity aside,
I'd be more inquisitive about what that presence in the room was before I made up my mind.
If, for instance, you play the lottery and win, will that "someone" exact payment from you later?
Or if perhaps it's God, then are you willing to entertain the notion that you might want to know Him since He's been such an awesome benefactor?
All I know is this (and I know it from experience)----you must be very careful what kind of "spirit" you're being drawn to or attributing this feeling to.
The silver lining though is Rad Man was previously unaware of spirituality, so even the wrong spirit would provide evidence of that to make him think. That being said, it is true, that is dangerous ground.
Go ahead Rad, but yer not gonna win a cent. If you do, it would be a miracle! LOL
Why would God speak to me with the wrong numbers?
God has a wicked sense of humour sometimes...
Rad Man, it just may be that the numbers you received mean something else in your life. Look hard at the numbers, do they match birthdays or specific dates? Do they match a year where something happened in your life? Are they in a fibonnachi sequence?
If you want, but the odds of you winning are no different than someone walking in off the street and buying a randomly generated lottery ticket.
Sure, rain on my parade. Half the people here go on an on about how they have conversations with God without providing any evidence or proof of his existence. I had a moment of clarity and was given a purpose.
My bet is that you won't win a thing. Wanna bet me $256,000.00? At least I'll win.
Play it, Rad man! Then use the money to spread the wealth around!
Hey Rad Man. You know you're going to have to put those numbers to work, don't you. Who could resist the chance to help feed the hungry?
I just hope you're not an impatient man who expects everything to happen now. Imagine if you buy a ticket using the numbers just once and miss out, but those winning numbers come up in a month's time. You'd be kicking yourself.
I suggest you use the same numbers for, let's say, six weeks. Even if you don't get to win the big money and feed millions, you'll be brightening the day just a little for whoever does win the big bucks. lol. Good luck with them!
ATM brings up an interesting point. Say you play and win. Considering the odds of winning normally, did that mean the cosmos cheated? Did it simply foretell the future or, more maliciously, manipulate the balls? Even if you used the money for good, would you have to suffer a measure of guilt that the fates favored you and cheated for you, over some innocent person who might have won with a random pick? And might have had plans to do good?
If I win as predicted that would be pretty amazing wouldn't it. You see I've predicted it before hand not after like so many who thank God after.
I think you have been given an incredible amount of information simply by being aware of a presence. I've simply always wondered how any who are given info feel about it. I'd love to have proof. But, then I'd feel guilty. You know? What made me special? Or was it a weakness? I guess I've always assumed if anything is there it would know I'm OK. If there isn't enough contact to go around it can simply give proof to others first.
Anyway, I do hope this is something incredibly special for you.
What's interesting is that you do indeed have a possibility and probability of winning, heightened with jubilant excitement only by the fact you posted it here.
What does 4 out of 6 numbers get me? Should be a couple of hundred anyway. I'm not going to let anyone know what the other two numbers are because I'm going to keep playing them. I guess I'll have to give the winnings to the local food bank.
http://www.olg.ca/lotteries/games/howto … e=lotto649
Interesting. If that is like the powerball lottery around here, that last number being correct does give you some decent money.
So, if you give those winnings toward food for the poor; I wonder if one individual was meant to receive help? Will your donation drastically change the life of one individual? I'd love to follow that money trail and see where it leads.
That's great, Rad Man. I'm glad you're going to run the numbers for longer. Use some of these winnings to finance it for as long as it takes to crack the big one. Hey, I hope you blacking out those two numbers doesn't make your ticket void. That would be too disappointing. lol.
Just brought a check to my local food bank for $450. They were glad to see me.
Regardless of whatever else you got out of this, a good cause was served and I applaud you for that.
I think that's great news. Can't wait to see the results over the next few weeks. I'm going to fall off my chair laughing if you get another big win. Or better still, one really BIG win! Good luck.
Hey Rad Man,
Your local food bank is going to be even more glad to see you if you turn up with Getitrite's check for $256,000. Did you take up his offer?
"My bet is that you won't win a thing. Wanna bet me $256,000.00? At least I'll win.lol"
Where are you Getitrite? Rad Man's win has got to be worth a comment from you. He's in the 're-evaluating process'.
1. You woke up and opened your mind to thoughts that were not your own.
(We will agree they were those of a non physical-presence.)
2. You perceived specific lottery numbers.
3. You were told you would win some money via the lottery with these numbers.
4. You were told the winnings should go toward feeding the hungry.
1. Before this experience, nothing in your life proved the reality of God's existence to you, but you have recently hinted that you are going through a change in your awareness.
True or False?
2. What is this change based on?
A. None of the above.
D. Winning $450.00!
3. What was the nature of whatever it was that created the thoughts:
C. All Knowing
F. The wind
H. Altered-state brain activity
I. Alpha brain wave activity
4. You won money by using the numbers given to you.
True or False?
5. If true, what do you attribute your winning to?
A. God (and your listening to God)
B. Random Luck
C. Good Karma for being unselfish
D. Reward for being unselfish
E. Playing the lottery
6. You brought a check to the food bank. This is the amount you won from the lottery ticket and the numbers you were given.
True or False?
( The conclusion seems pretty obvious to me. )
This reads like one of those surveys an advertising agency conducts when they want to force people to give endorsements to a product. I don't like to think of God as a product, but that's how it reads. Not intentionally, I'm sure.
I'm just wondering, Kathryn, are you saying that God is the only option in a spiritual or other-world sense? When John Edward appears on the television and delivers messages to people, and they say "Wow, that's exactly right. Nobody could have known that except my dead relative!" do you automatically say, "Gee that John Edward fellow is getting good messages from God!" or do you accept JE's explanation that he's speaking directly with the spirits of those who have passed over?
I don't know the answers to life's great mysteries, but I am uncomfortable watching Rad Man or anyone else being forced into a corner. Particularly in a time that must be rather unsettling for him.
I'm also left wondering why God would give winning lottery numberts to Rad Man of all people. I don't mean to offend Rad Man, but there are so many people praying every day for help to find the money to pay for an operation to save a life, or to save their home, etc. Why would God choose to speak directly with Rad Man and give him money instead of responding directly to someone who is suicidal and asking for a sign, for instance.
If I was God I suspect I'd be feeling a little offended by the suggestion that I'd deem it more important to make a personal appearance to Rad Man to get a bunch of people on HP chatting, whilst ignoring my loyal followers. I suspect that true believers praying for help might also feel a tad disappointed.
Your survey form seems a bit of a quantam leap. There's at least a few of us here who will be interested in watching Rad Man make the personal journey that takes him to his own conclusions. Seems a shame to deny him the space to ask, and find answer to, his own questions .
You've brought up some very interesting questions LongTimeMother. Questions I've been asking myself since I was 12 or 13 years old. There are Children dying right now surrounded by good God fearing people praying for a recovery and he hand me $450 to hand over to the food bank? That's my biggest question.
Bit of a puzzle. Perhaps praying is not the key to success. Perhaps fearing God doesn't make one more worthy. Who knows? I don't.
Certainly, in my experience, there's enough events that happen to people to indicate that there's something more than just 'nothing' when one dies, and more than just 'us' on a day to day basis. You have probably seen enough of my comments elsewhere to know that I am not a fan of churches, and I believe that organised religions have a lot to answer for.
Like most people, including you now by the look of it, I have questions and I am interested in finding answers. I think its just part of the journey, isn't it? Your journey has taken an interesting turn. That's a good thing!
Don't compare anything to the big picture. It's always skewed and full of questions. Just ask yourself what you can do, with what you have been given. And, what conclusions you can come to with the knowledge and experience you have. Isn't one of the outcomes of constantly comparing and judging justification to back off from the best that we can do? Justification to negate our own unique conclusions?
'The poor will always be among us'. If this statement is true, what do you do? We would be well advised to do as you have done. When given the opportunity to help, you did. It doesn't really matter what you make of it in the final analysis; you used an event you can't explain to do some good for another; instead of attempting to make it completely about yourself. You are already ahead of the game.
Another thought ... perhaps it wasn't God talking to you. Why does a voice have to be God's?
I notice that earlier Kathryn said "Go ahead Rad, but yer not gonna win a cent. If you do, it would be a miracle! LOL" and then a couple of days later I'm getting the impression that she thinks you've had a message from God.
You won $450. That's a lot more than a cent. Does that mean you were granted a miracle? That's pretty impressive if you were. Or are we to wonder if your Great Uncle Fred was passing you the numbers?
So many questions, Rad Man. You are going to busy thinking all this through.
Interesting, but I don't think the dead can communicate or watch us for that matter. Thinking so is just wishful thinking. And it could drive one a little crazy. I remember I was 8 or 9 when my grandmother past away. My parents tried to comfort us by saying she can still see us. This kind of freaked me out for a while as I felt like I had no privacy. I think, when your dead your dead.
I'm not sure what the voice was, or if it was just inside my own head, I'll have to give it some thought.
That's not my kind of wishful thinking. With that sort of image in the back of my mind, I'd never have had a sex life, so I'd probably never have been a mother.
Perhaps This is a delusion, but maybe someone wanted to give you what you've been asking for
Look for the most likely scenario. A voice in my head predicting the lottery numbers or me making this up to see when or if any believers would question the validity of my statement?
Or proposed a hypothetical situation to gauge the reactions of others?
No, he lied. I'm not sure what purpose he thinks it served. His lie does not negate other perceptions of truth. He specifically stated he was waiting for believers to question the validity. So, he was expecting to be called a liar. This is an on line forum. Proof is impossible. He did post a ticket, but we have no idea where he lives and which lottery he played. All that has been accomplished here is that we now know rad man does not speak truth consistently. Good to know, but pointless. A percentage of trust in the authenticity of others drives these conversations. Trust was lost.
Emile, go back to the post where I posted the winning ticket. You'll notice I also posted a link to the winning numbers. I don't take kindly to being called a liar. Of course I was waiting for someone to call me a liar, who wouldn't when they make claims that they predicted the lottery.
I suppose knowing you lied to your follow hubbers is better than thinking you lied to yourself. I simply don't see the point served by the charade. You shared what was represented as a belief. Why would anyone check out your link when your initial claim of an entity in your room was so fantastical and couldn't be proven?
Beliefs serve a purpose. Lies may be a subconscious part of them, but conscious lies about belief are not the same thing. Do you see the difference? Maybe what I see as the point you were attempting to make with the charade is not the one you were. What was your intended point?
So you think he lied?? If conducting an experiment to test a theory is a lie, then think about all of the possible lies that may have been told over the years. A hypothetical experiment conducted by one person does not qualify as a lie. In order for some experiments to be accurate, one must use a sterile field (in this case, a group of people that are unaware that they are part of an experiment) If he mentioned that he was conducting an experiment, the field would be tainted because we would have an idea of what he was looking for.
Now the fact that he mentioned winning the lottery I can believe because he has mentioned it in other threads. It also could be real because of the fact that he gave a low amount of what his winnings were (which in itself is reasonable). If he's telling the truth, I applaud his winning and charitable spirit. If not, I applaud his ability to conduct an experiment making it reasonable enough that it likely might not be questioned
So you pointed out that Rad Man does not speak truth consistently.. Are you saying that you do? You have never told a lie at any point in your life?
So now that you no longer trust Rad Man, one could expect that you will no longer engage him in debate or discussion?
No, she's all over my posts in Calling all Atheists.
No. I will continue to read his posts. Simply because he didn't accomplish what it appears he was trying to doesn't change much. I attempted to be supportive on this thread. Live and learn.
It saddens me to see you so offended by Rad Man's lie. I'm wondering if you were raised in a home where to lie was a major crime. My kids expect to be grounded for about six months if ever they lie to me or my husband, but I have taught them that lies are a part of life and they should be careful about where they place their trust.
I wrote a hub about teaching my kids to lie as part of their self-defense strategy, and copped a hammering from a hubber who was very opposed to telling lies, so you are obviously not the only one who gets upset at the idea of anyone telling lies. But really, I don't think Rad Man caused any harm if he lied about winning money.
As long as he didn't lie about giving cash to the food bank, of course. If he lied about that part, he's an awful, despicable, unforgivable scoundrel who deserves to be quarantined until we get evidence of his donation!!!!
Now you're in trouble, Rad Man!!
Hey, are you a lawyer by trade? I love the way you put words together. Are you telling me I'm full of S*^t while stroking my ego?
I can see how Emile might come to the conclusion she has, but I don't believe Rad to be a liar. I think maybe there was a real desire to see how people would react if he told a story such as this. I'm frankly stunned that more of the believers on HP didn't swarm to convert him immediately. I expected half a dozen at least to post the Jesus prayer for him and invite him to church.
I think, in essence, few people really give a shit. If they did, might they not have contacted him privately to ask, or even asked publicly what was happening during his 're-evaluation' process?
Good point. Few people actually care about Something good happening unless it's to them directly. They can speak of being happy for the person, but still think it should have been them. I wouldn't really have expected a whole lot of believers to jump in this thread because of the person posting it.
It's funny sometimes though, a lot of believers could care less what an atheist (or some other believers) post in general except when the opinion doesn't line up with their own personal indoctrin- I mean beliefs
A few people did respond with jealousy. You may have something there. One wonderful person did contact me personally and ask if I was okay. The only question seemed to be where were the voices coming from, God or Great Uncle Fred as LongTimeMother suggested? Which is a very valid question.
I agree.. Mo is awesome!! and When you get mo and Melissa together, THEN it really becomes a party..LOL
**Shouting all over HP** HEY MELISSA!!! COME OVER HERE!!! lol
No, nothing like Abbott and Costello. Just guys being guys.
You think they'll fight over who will be Laverne? I can't wait. I did have a huge crush on Shirley.
I dunno, but if it does turn into a fight i'll supply the mud..LOL
Where did I say I lied? Did you gauge I lied because you think that a lie is the most likely scenario.
Doesn't necessarily mean that he lied. Just that now he may be having a little bit of fun
Depends on where the focus is. For some (like me) it doesn't matter where the numbers came from. Heck, for all I know JM's pet invisible purple dragon Fluffy could have given them to you. But if the end result is a positive one, good for you.
Then again, I think it's possible to hear voices in your head.. I hear them all the time.
Hi Rad Man,
I hope you have more tickets waiting to be drawn. Another big win is just what this thread needs right now. lol.
Here's my take on your comment: "Look for the most likely scenario. A voice in my head predicting the lottery numbers or me making this up to see when or if any believers would question the validity of my statement?"
I'm still wondering if your Great Uncle Fred was passing you the numbers. They had to come from somewhere ... because you did have a win. And if you didn't hear a voice, who cares? It just means we can all wonder if you're psychic!
That should keep the thread going for a while.
LTM, I like you! You have a great sense of humor, and a great sense of just...letting people be who they are.
lol. Well, thank you, M2C. I feel sorry for anyone who has to get out of bed every morning without being confident they'll get at least one really good chuckle every day.
I put those questions up up because I was very confused by his whole story. I would like to think it was a miracle. Thats what I would like to think... but if he answered the questions for all of us to see, we could get a hint as to which direction he'll go.. Yes miracle. No, not a miracle.
ATM said I couldn't do it again so yesterday I bought another ticket. This time I got 5 numbers so it should be worth more.
http://www.olg.ca/lotteries/games/howto … e=lotto649
Oh, great, Rad Man, so you listen to ATM.
And what did LTM tell you? Huh? Oh yes ... here's the quote ...
"I just hope you're not an impatient man who expects everything to happen now. Imagine if you buy a ticket using the numbers just once and miss out, but those winning numbers come up in a month's time. You'd be kicking yourself. I suggest you use the same numbers for, let's say, six weeks."
And it's been how many weeks??
Now is the time I fall off my chair laughing!
Time to draw conclusions from the most recent evidence presented. Either LongTimeMother is psychic ... or your lotto is really easy to win. In which case, buy me a ticket please.
Oh, and while you're at it, perhaps it is time to check the family tree for a Great Uncle Fred. He might like a new headstone. lol.
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