From a purely anthropological perspective, Hominid Creativity has been tied to measurable increase in cranial capacity and cerebral mass/volume. Brain size is what set us apart from our Hominid predecessors and our nearest living evolutionary kin----chimpanzees and bonobos, whose ancestors branched off from our lineage some six million years ago. Anthropologists, poring over 3-dimensional scans of ancient hominid skull and examining the brains of chimps and bonobos, have shown how extensive the human brain have evolved over time.
Anthroplogists are just now proposing theories about why and how and when the hominid brain started its ascent to the top of the natural world.
I am positing that the appearance of modern humans (Homo Sapiens) sometime between 300,000 to 200,000 years ago on the earthly stage is the apex of that ascent because it coincided with beginning of their ability to improve upon the creativity shown by their hominid precursors (however miniscule) on the survivalist scale. The more creative early humans were in terms of their survival skills, the more complex the integrative connections got in their gray matter.
Thus the utility of creativity because it is this creativity that has allowed our specie to survive and thrive in a very competitive natural world.
From the purely biblical narrative, could its timeline( from Adam and Eve) neatly fit the anthropological timeline of whence creativity actually became a force of its own, allowing humans to be unshackled from the interventions of a Higher Force?
Hasn't the biblical timeline been assessed at around 6000 years?
No it hasn't. Our family tree has been traced back that far (according to the bible)
On the first day God god said Let the world begin and it was without form , then he said let there be light ; and after this , the earth took form and this was the first day some time passes while all of this is going on (millions of years) And then .. God stops by for a second day of creativity. He does his thing which is his second day. And then a lot of time passes until he stops by yet a third time. Lets call this his third day. Don't matter what we call it? This is all that the bible actually says. The rest is interpretation.
But you are right about six thousand years is all that has been recorded concerning the family tree of Adam and Eve.
Sorry Jerami, the Bible says nothing about that.
"IF" you were as smart as you think that you are ??? ... You would read what it actually says; NO more OR NO less than what it says; you would not have come to the conclusions that you have! What does it say not withstanding that which you have been taught that it says.
Few people are able to do that!
I know that you are smart! ... now try to read what is actually written and not interject that which you were taught that your understanding "Should" be. I know you can do it! ""IF" you really try"
You are rebelling against the indoctrination that tells YOU what it says.
If you are able to read what is actually written (No more or less than what is written) you would see a different picture than the one that you think that you see!!!!!!!
I don't approach the biblical Adam and Eve narrative literally , that is, I do not believe they were the first humans ever to walk this earth. Rather I approach their story allegorically/metaphorically. I think Adam and Eve could personify allegorically, the first humans to ever invoke their creativity oustide of Divine Guidance or Intervention; they were the first humans, again allegorically/metaphorically to ever think that their cerebral capacity for creation should and could be unhinged from and be totally devoid of Divine intervention, extrapolation and interpretation. Thus the story of them disobeying God's command not to "eat of the fruit of knowledge"; knowledge being emblematic of the source from whence creativity comes from.... creativity that does not flow from Divine Inspiration but from human introspection and intuition.
If you are enamored of timelines(Adam and Eve starting at around 6,000 years ago) , then what I am suggesting is that human creativity started to blossom exponentially from around that time, as opposed to its relative dormancy during the hominid years.
Humans have been expressing creativity on cave walls for at least 40,000 years.
Reading and understanding what is being said are obviously two different things in your world.
Reading and understanding are two different things in this world. What's you point.
The point is, timelines (be they anthropological or biblical) are relevant or irrelevant ONLY in as far as they may support or debunk one's thoughtful (or thoughtless, for that matter) point of view. In the greater scheme of things i.e creation/evolution, what is thought provoking are the whys, hows, and whens of hominid progression from the totally un-creative to the fully creative specie. Empiric evidence point to the increasing cognitive abilities of hominids that spurred the increase in their cranial capacity/cerebral mass that then led to greater creativity, that then led to more integrated cognitive function, thus completing the circle.
The point is human brain capacity has remained unchanged for 200,000 years. Humans have been creative for at least 40,000 years. None of this lines up with the bibles 6000 years. Furthermore the success of humans is not in our creativity, it's in our ability to share that creativity when it happens.
You are forgetting to utilize allegorical/metaphorical nonsense....
Only 14 year old girls still use smiley faces for effect.
Thanks for that well researched and well thought out response.
Do your parents know you are in an internet forum, young lady?
That I met a crazy man that I never talk to, who seems basically nice?
My apologies to all Cletus's everywhere, but I knew I didn't like you the minute I read your name... the pic aint helpin' much. The chicken thing was bad enough. I enjoy a bit of soul.
I told you, Im not a fan of Cletus's... especially men over 40 who wear their hats sideways.
I appreciate your astute discernment. The natural man knows how to farm. He farms long and hard, but he must also be slow, patient, and be gentle with the tender shoots. He plows deep, plants his seed and tastes the ripe fruit of his labor.
I sure don't need you to accomplish that. I need no luck at all!
Uh, oh, I'll check it out. I usually don't, but you have me hooked. What a writer!
Which came first... the creativity? or the sharing of that creativity. If there is nothing to share in the first place would humans have advanced?
Homo Sapiens have shown creativity well before your timeline of 40,000 years. The hominid specie, e.g. Homo erectus, etc. (well before Homo Sapiens) have shown creativity, for example, in the way they have creatively adjusted the design of their tools for hunting more efficiently and effectively. The paintings on cave walls that you are referring to, show cognitive( and maybe artistic) abilities, that pre-dates those painting for 200,000 years.
Let's also keep in mind that our actual understanding of these various stages of human development is sketchy. We find some security in settling on what science has been able to piece together as a definitive study. We haven't even scratched the surface.
I believe that what is important for us today, regardless of how we attained it, is to harness and direct or creativity to improve every situation in our world. This can only be done in a peaceful, loving way if the creative energy is to reach its full potential.
A guy invents a bow and arrow but doesn't share the invention... A guy invents a car but doesn't share the invention. A guy invents a plane and doesn't share the invention... Creativity is not an everyday thing. I doesn't happen often, but when it does we share or sell the information. If I'd never seen a house I'd be hard pressed to build one. The same with a car, boat plane or space station.
Your point is well taken... but sharing creativity for creativity's sake is not what is was all about. It was all about increasing the chances of your kin/tribe/clan's survival. Now in our modern technological era, creativity is more related to or hinged on personal ambition/satisfaction, monetary consideration and worlwide acclaim.
Yes. If you wish it to be....yes. Goddunnit.
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