What Miracles, encounters, dreams, ect... have let you know that God does exist?
Yes, I dreamed I was an Eskimo, frozen wind began to blow, under my boots and around my toes
The frost that bit the ground below, it was a hundred degrees below zero...
Maybe God is trying to tell you to warm your heart.
Sorry, but the temperature of my heart remains constant with the rest of my body.
It's figurative, sorry you don't understand. You should pray.
Praying is only for someone who wishes to do nothing.
Don't think so; praying strengths someone so they can do something.
Praying strengthens a person so they can do something.
You mean, like make them really strong so they can stop a speeding bus before it hits someone?
I think it is more along the lines of it strengthens them by accepting that we can't control everything. Acquiescing to reality. Belief in the greater good and asincere hope that all events work out, eventually, for the best.
Believers reject reality in favor of their religious indoctrinated fantasies, so your point is moot.
Wishful wanting to an invisible super friend. That's supposed to be reality?
The point is moot in your limited perception of reality. You can't disprove God no matter how often you post. Reality is how one perceives it; so, although you perceive a reality without God, that doesn't mean others do. Your perception does not trump theirs for anyone but you.
Does that imply you possess superior perception of reality? It's odd, reality has a tendency to actually dispel ones perception of it, so I always take that into account..
We're not disproving God here, we're disproving His followers as they fail to prove Him.
No, it isn't.
They are not perceiving gods, no one can.
Reality trumps all perceptions. That's the point.
ATM, the use of the words delusional and make believe come up quite often in your posts. You cannot prove any of them are delusional or making anything up. I realize this may come as a shock to you but the fact that someone goes beyond what they can prove doesn't mean that the core argument is bogus. If it did mean that, pretty much every argument you present in a philosophical form is bogus.
Reality is how you perceive it. If you can prove that isn't true; please present the evidence. Group consensus doesn't make for truth. It makes for group consensus. You and I can argue until we are blue in the face that yeti is a myth. Try convincing someone who claims to have seen one. The same is true with belief. If they have been presented evidence enough to convince them...it is true for them. No amount of attempts at mockery or ridicule will change that fact.
Yes, I can and I have.
That makes no sense.
No, it isn't, not a chance.
I do that which each post I make, pay attention.
Facts and evidence make for truth.
Sorry, but they have not been presented with evidence because evidence is something we can all see.
I wonder what your greatest fear is... I suppose that is obvious... it's that God is real. You'd give everything you owned and every good memory you've ever had for Him not to be real.... cause if He were... you've made yourself an enemy of Him. You hate and despise Him, all whilst claiming He's not there... but if He is...
He forgives though. He loves us all, in spite of our disgusting behavior. I don't care if you live to be 100, if you can ever stop spewing your hate for one minute... call on His name... call from your deathbed, if you're granted such a magnificent chance. Ask for His mercy and forgiveness. He loves you, in spite of your hatred. He created you in your mothers womb, He has not written you off.
A Troubled Man knows what I meant. In my opinion, he's a smart alec, a wise guy, a clever Dick. You can't change other people's opinions. If you don't want to believe in God don't ATM but why are you so obsessed with what others think regarding God? Why do you try to rain on their parade? It makes it sound like you are actually interested in God but are too scared to admit it. Why else would you keep commenting on these sites? You won't change anybody's mind regarding God. Or you are a troll just looking to upset people and get a reaction.
In my opinion, A troubled man knew what I meant about strength.
Was I trying to force you to change your opinion? No, then don't lie about it.
Hilarious. Believers want to evangelize their religion and threaten us with eternal damnation if we don't accept their beliefs, AND they want to leave us alone and not rain on their parade. The hypocrisy is deafening.
Sorry, but I don't believe in the same childish fairy tales that scare you.
It's a public forum. Duh.
Where did I wanted to change your mind? No need to lie about that.
Yes, anyone who points out your nonsense must be troll.
This is the last reply I am going to give you. You are a grown up and can believe what you like. It isn't all about you. We don't threaten you with eternal flames; God does so take it up with him. You like to be the accuser. You like to condemn yet you criticize others for judging you and that makes you a hypocrite. Live and let live. You don't have to pray if you don't want to. You don't have to do believe a bloody thing. That's your problem if you think my beliefs are a fairy tale; tough for you. It's not nonsense to me and you are a troll. You try to provoke people and that makes you a very troubled man so your name is apt. Why don't you get a life? Get a hobby instead of attacking people for their beliefs. I think you like attacking because that is how you deal with your problems. Do you ever stop to acknowledge what you do wrong? I don't think so. For you, it's about blaming. You can use all the LOL's you like and all the smile faces. It's obvious that you hate religion for a reason. You were probably betrayed by someone who was religious, a hypocrite and now you think everyone who believes in God is the same way. Just go heal yourself and get rid of that big chip on your shoulder. My beliefs are not nonsense to me. I wonder how old you are. If you are over 20 than you have serious problems. Go spend time with your wife or your kids. Go walk in a park. This forum is for people who believe in God not for people who want to simply spread their negativity. We already know that you think our beliefs are nonsense. You don't have to keep repeating yourself. That is harrassment. If you bother my sites again I am going to report you because that is harrassment. In my opinion you are not offering anything constructive. Do you bother the Jewish sites too? My great grandmother was Jewish. Do you have anything derogatory to say about her?
If you keep harrassing my sites I am going to report you and I am going to keep reporting you until your account is suspended.
Oh no, it's His followers that make the threats. I have never heard your God utter those threats.
That is something Christians never allow anyone to do, that's the point.
Yes, I understand you want to have the freedom to threaten me with your fairy tales and that you could care less.
Yes, I understand anyone who doesn't share your beliefs is a troll.
Personal insults only show that you are the troll.
I could go into breeding unicorns.
Yes, Christians threatening and insulting me are problems.
There are too many reasons to despise religion, but we are trying hard to list them all here as you Christians continue to reveal them.
Yes, I was betrayed by a leprechaun who threw the Kentucky Derby.
You are the one with a chip on your shoulder, shown clearly here with this post.
Yes, they are complete nonsense.
I would much rather race my invisible purple dragon with the leprechaun's unicorn next door.
Believing in God IS the spreading of negativity.
Neither do you.
I could report you for this post filled with personal insults and you will get banned.
Btw, this is NOT your site.
Why would I say anything derogatory about your great grandmother, I never said anything derogatory about you personally. YOU are the one here who is personally insulting others.
I've climbed out of three mangled cars resulting from high speed crashes without so much as a scratch or bruise. I've also been in two cars during out of control spins. I cannot prove that God had a hand in to protect me, but I am very grateful I'm still here.
The fact of creation itself, this could not have happened by chance. Praise be to God the father, creator of heaven and earth.
Many people have shared their testimonies on how God miraculously answered their prayers and so fort. I personally have had such an experience. There was one pastor in Africa, Prophet Bonard, who testified about this. A limbless pastor even testified about this. They experienced God's presence and existence.
I'm not religious at all but I do have testimony and that is why I write 'Christian - other' when doing online surveys. The reason why is because I don't why I'm still living. Many times should have been dead or maimed for life. The closest thing I can say about my belief is that I'm agnostic because, "My job is so secret - even I don't know what I'm doing."
Nobody likes to think that it is just chaos and random chance because if your life has no meaning it's takes the wind out of sails and leaves you very depressed and suicidal like all those existentialist philosophers who offed themselves.
No matter how much of a buffoon, jerk, bitch or idiot that I am - I feel that there must be some use for me in this world by the very fact that I am still alive and kicking. I know this for a fact because my life was saved by a selfish moron - who didn't even know what he did. My testimony:
I was jaywalking during when the red light stopped traffic.
A truck gassed and and blocked my way even though the light was still red. He was telling me that I was a jerk by blocking me. I was delayed two whole seconds.
Truck moved at the green light and I was walking down the concrete sidewalk when TWO SECONDS in front of me a 15 foot long piece of drainage pipe fell off the building.
Oh yeah, I was shaking and a trembling for 15 minutes. That was the last time I ever went to a bar. I went into the bar and told my story and I got ZERO reaction from the bar flys. I still drink - but never entered a bar again for the last 20 years.
It seems that even on a thread that was specifically designed for believers to share their stories about God, we are not free from persecution. This thread was not designed for debate and there are those who would go off topic simply in order to mock others.
We are not able to share our experiences free from criticism and ridicule. Free speech is dead.
Wow - that was not the intent at all. I didn't realize that this was a closed and private thread. But now that I realize how hostile and arrogant certain Christians are - I feel pity for you narrow and closed world view.
FREE AND OPEN SPEECH on a public forum and you say to me; "GET OUT!"
WTF are you on lady? Stupid drugs? Why don't you take your closed and private thread and go off into a private chat room. You are one <personal attack removed>!
Uh, I wasn't addressing you at all. I actually really enjoyed your story.
I apologize for my harshness but I still feel that if in a public setting and talking don't let the troll hijack your conversation.
"God must've sent you to me to teach me patience because I'm down to my last nerve and you're on it!
So, we should ignore your current trollish behavior? Your story could not have induced her comment. Even if it had, was such an incendiary reaction warranted?
Emile, you are so incredibly level headed. I don't think Ive read one of your posts that I wasn't impressed with. Thanks.
You might not agree with this one. I honestly didn't understand where you were coming from with the complaint of being ridiculed or persecuted. I assumed it was directed at ATM. I found his comment humorous, not antagonizing.
Eh, agree to disagree... pretty sure he didn't come to contribute to the subject matter and if he's not here for that, he's surely only here for one other reason, but I said my peace and Im done with it.
Everyone has a different style of humor. I agree, he probably didn't join in, in hope of sharing an actual experience. But, name a thread where every comment is always on topic and I bet it wasn't a thread on Hub Pages.
That is a lie. The OP was very specific about dreams supporting the existence of something. You are the one who hasn't contributed to the subject matter and did nothing more than tell another lie about being persecuted.
But it did sound like you were being sarcastic in your Eskimo post and that you were not honestly sharing a dream that supported the existence of God.
You're being persecuted?
Do you even know the meaning of that word?
Kind of like you going off topic with almost every other thread you visit in order to chat?
Is anyone stopping you from posting nonsense here?
Dishonesty certainly appears to be alive and kicking in this thread.
Nobody can define what is God, only state what God is not.
"If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha. If you meet a Patriarch, kill the Patriarch." Lin Chi isn't condoning murder, he is using a metaphor to explain the nature of Buddhism. Don't believe what some one says, no matter how holy they are, just because they say it. Listen to their words and then explore them yourself.... Kill Buddha.
Dae Kwang "Kill the Buddha" 1997, Providence Zen Center, http://www.kwanumzen.com/pzc/newsletter … uddha.html
Actually I wrote a hub on how God himself and Angels saved my life in a bad car accident. I actually hit 2 moose at the same time.
I say Angels because it all started one week prior to the accident when a beautiful blessed pinned Angel from my friends car fell on me every time I would enter her vehicle.
That it feels so good to be alive. Because one night my husband forgot to put the garage door down. AND we both were asleep all night with the garage door up. So I just give thanks to the Lord every day for watching over us and protecting us for the enemy.
It is good to pray to God asking him to protect you every day.
So, why doesn't God protect the tens of thousands of children who die of starvation every day, but appears to be willing to stand guard on an open garage door all night long?
Sandcastles was staying on topic and answering the question "*personal* experiences" that have strengthened *her* faith in God.
Considering you have little to no concept of staying on topic, your post is purely hypocritical.
If you have the self discipline to silence yourself, the ppl who were interested in posting their personal experiences with God might be able to bring this thread back on topic.
Unfortunately, the children who died of starvation while God was busy opening chakras are unable to sign in and post their personal experiences with God.
Why aren't adults protecting the thousands of children? Where are the adults? Where are the parents? Why is God blamed but people can act like scum bags and turn their back on suffering? Why aren't more people helping?
If adults praise their gods for finding their car keys, we can surely blame their gods for spending the time looking for those car keys instead of feeding starving children.
I've been experiencing God for the past three years, although I didn't believe in God when the experiences started happening. I thought I was going nuts, and there are those who say I am. I don't care, I know I'm not.
The most intense experience so far was my first Kundalini experience three years ago, which came suddenly after a few weeks of meditation. Physically, it was like electricity going up my spine, ectstacy, visions, going through a tunnel of light and colors very fast. I saw symbols from all types of religions, including Egyptian. It ended abruptly, and I was indirectly informed later that I wasn't ready yet, but that this is the thing that happens when a person reaches union with God.
Both God and jesus have spoken to me audibly on a few occasions, but mostly God speaks directly to my spirit, and more commonly(daily now) through intuition and signs. If I'm not getting the intuition, I know I'm not in the flow of the Tao, or in line with the will of God.
I have had many experiences, been filled with the holy spirit/ kundalini energy on multiple occcasions, purified on many occasions by holy fire(this almost always happens by night, and is probably taking so long with me due to my bad nature, I'm not the nicest person in the world). The longest experience was 8 hours long when God opened all of my chakras, although only four are "lit" so far.
No wonder the prayers of starving children go unattended. Gods way to busy opening chakras.
It's sad that you find amusement by mocking other people.
The amusement is in the ridiculous, childish things they believe.
So you intentionally come into public forums to find and mock people's personal beliefs for the sheer joy of it?
It makes you feel good to make other people feel bad?
Probably nowhere near as bad as those children felt when their chakras were closed by God, permanently.
The most recent experience that I had to strengthen my belief in God are the attacks by his enemies. If he were not real then the enemy would not take time to try and discredit him. So since the enemy is real, then God is real.
So, when Christians evangelize Jesus, we are the enemies for discrediting the evangelism. And, somewhere contained within this contradiction is a confirmation for the existence of God.
In other words, the actions of non-believers supports the existence of gods.
People have to do more than pray, they have to act. People can't just sit on their ass and wait for God to solve their problems. God touches the hearts of people; he softens their hearts so they care about more than money and more than themselves. This is a very selfish, cynical world. Kids starve and people watch TV and covet the new dress or car. God is supposed to help people care about life.
Sand castles, don't let him ruin your thread. It's a nice idea... just try to go on and ignore him the best you can. He doesn't create hubs, how he has a 58 score, I don't know... he just comes to this site daily to harass a specific ppl group in the community and for whatever reason, he is allowed to continue. Try not to read his posts... it helps.
Sandcastles-I don't usually comment on forums of this nature because of the controversy it can generate, however, I will make an exception after reading the first response.
Those who believe do not need proof of God's existence; those who do not believe, no amount of proof will be enough to change their minds.
Belief is a personal experience and is often unexplainable. Just as the Universe has infinite possibilities, our souls harbor the source of our beginning and the infinite possibilities of what we can become.
Very well said Denise. Thank you for your comments.
That is patently false. Believers have never produced a shred of evidence, their support lies entirely in their faith and nothing more.
You actually have to produced the proof before accusing anyone of not changing their minds.
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