jump to last post 1-3 of 3 discussions (31 posts)

Freedom Of Mind by Steven Hassan

  1. profile image0
    Rad Manposted 4 years ago

    Hassan works with former cult members, people who were "being deceptively recruited and indoctrinated without their conscious awareness of what's happening to them" he said in a recent interview on How to Do It. This is done in a variety of different ways, including "hypnosis, behaviour modification techniques, installing phobias" with the ultimate goal of "creating a kind of dissociative disorder where there's a new identity that suppresses their real identity and makes them dependent on some external authority figure or group."

    Looks like a must read. He appears to be discussing exactly what I've been going on about.

    1. profile image0
      Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      cults = bad

      1. A Troubled Man profile image60
        A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Christianity = cult

        1. profile image0
          Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          aw, you missed me.

          1. A Troubled Man profile image60
            A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Not at all.

            1. profile image0
              Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Liar! lol

            2. profile image0
              Deepes Mindposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Go on and pull her pigtails and get it out of the way...LOL

              1. A Troubled Man profile image60
                A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                I'd much rather pull your pigtails. smile

                1. profile image0
                  Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Who knew.

                  1. janesix profile image61
                    janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    lol

                2. profile image0
                  Deepes Mindposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Wait, What??

                  1. profile image0
                    Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    See what happens?

      2. profile image0
        Rad Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Specifically, how is Christianity different then cults?

        1. janesix profile image61
          janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Have you ever seen the pope's hat? It's a fish. This is obviously worship of fish Gods like Oannes.

          1. profile image0
            Rad Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You think the pope sports a Jesus fish. Ha.

            1. janesix profile image61
              janesixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I've read a lot of mythology and study religion daily. I still don't get the fish thing.

        2. profile image0
          Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          A Christian church teaches bible doctrine. It teaches that man has a free will. They can come and go as they please. A cult controls in any way possible, even to the point of drugging and as you said, hypnotizing.

          If any church teaches that salvation comes by man's effort and not by the grace of God, that is a sign of a cult. If a church tries to control a person's financial giving, that is a sign of a cult. If a church controls who a person is friends with, controls what churches they may go to when they leave town... if they disassociate with a person when they leave the church, that is a sign of a cult. People need to avoid these organizations at all costs.

          1. profile image0
            riddle666posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            A cult member always denies that theirs is a cult!

            1. profile image0
              Rad Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Amazing isn't it? They can't see it when they are in it. Claiming God gives free will and at the same time will burn you in hell for eternity if you don't get in line is not helping the argument.

              1. profile image0
                Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                The choice is yours. If you don't want to read the Bible, don't. Ostriches are probably very comfortable in their lifestyles.

                1. profile image0
                  Rad Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  The choice is yours. If you don't want your own mind, don't. Pickles are probably very comfortable in their lifestyles.

                  1. profile image0
                    Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Ok then.

            2. profile image0
              Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Phenomenal debate.

    2. PhoenixV profile image81
      PhoenixVposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Sounds like NBC and CNN.

  2. janesix profile image61
    janesixposted 4 years ago

    That's warped that someone would do that on purpose.

  3. profile image0
    riddle666posted 4 years ago

    Rules of cult formation
    1) Keep it vague and simple - obey me you will get "heaven".
    2)Emphasize the Visual and sensual over Intellectual - sing and pray and use grand dresses.
    3)Borrow the forms of organised religion to structure the group - ancient religions giving rise to new one - Dec 25 sun's birthday.
    4) Disguise your source of income - never tell the followers it is with their money that the leader is buying Rolls Royce or BMW or grand hats
    5)Set up an us verses them dynamic - they go to hell, we to heaven.

    1. profile image0
      Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Just curious... where did you pull that list from?

      1. profile image0
        riddle666posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Isn't studying christianity enough?

        1. profile image0
          Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Again... these are not actual debating points. Oh well... never mind. smile

          1. profile image0
            riddle666posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Then don't ask!

            1. profile image0
              Beth37posted 4 years ago in reply to this

              That didn't make sense either. lol Maybe it's me.

 
working