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What Is God? And How Do You If Your Reply Is True?

  1. vveasey profile image82
    vveaseyposted 3 years ago

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    Is Your reply based on truth and real experience or on belief?

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      Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      All of the above.

  2. janesix profile image62
    janesixposted 3 years ago

    God is out creator, a benevolent being. I know this through experience AND faith.

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      Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      There is no God or benevolent being. I think this through experience and logic.

      1. janesix profile image62
        janesixposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        That's your choice.

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          Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Choice? No choice involved.

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            wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            That's something that seems difficult (impossible in many cases) for the faithful to accept.  They have no problem in refusing to analyze the question through facts and logic, and don't understand why other people can't simply put their reasoning on a back burner as they do.

            Just as the reverse is also true - that many agnostics simply can't understand the willingness to set aside analytical thought for emotional needs and desires.  They can't do it, and can't understand anyone that can.

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              Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I've asked many believers why they think we can chose to believe when they themselves can't chose to not believe. "Can you chose not to believe?" They answer is alway no, but they still think it's a choice. I maintain the choice is not conscious. It depends IMHO on how aware we are of our thoughts and how conscious we are.

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                Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I think people can choose to not believe,  I dunno.........
                But I know people can choose TO believe!
                And I do know they can choose to not follow Him even after they've believed in Him.    People have free will.   There are several people on these forums who've even said they chose to not follow Him after having previously been Believers.    Maybe that means they never really believed.    Maybe it means they made a conscious choice to rebel against Him.   God knows..........

                1. janesix profile image62
                  janesixposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Brenda, what if we make a mistake and follow the wrong belief? Does God forgive us for that?

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                    Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    I believe He absolutely does,  if we repent!
                    That's what He's about----forgiveness!

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                  riddle666posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Believe and follow whom? You , your priests? The myriad of other sects and their priests? Or the ancient priests who wrote the nonsense book called bible?

                  1. janesix profile image62
                    janesixposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    When the line is drawn Riddle 666, which side will you be on?

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                    Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Jesus the Christ.   I follow Him only.   The Bible is his word,  written by the hands of those who followed Him, at the inspiration of his Holy Spirit.  That's all.   No priest, no preacher, is worthy of being worshipped.

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                  Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Brenda, I don't think you are understanding completely. One doesn't make a conscious effort to rebel against God when they no longer think God exists. I know because I was one of those who used to believe. One just becomes more consciously aware of their own thoughts and comes to the conclusion that there is no God, which is not the same as thinking there is a loving God, but rebelling against that God. Don't assume that because you personally don't understand that no one understands and therefor only God understands. Just ask the people who went through it.

                4. Disappearinghead profile image91
                  Disappearingheadposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Why do so many Christians think that if someone used to be a believer and then is not, that the person was never a believer in the first place? How can they possibly know the mind of the ex-believer some 5, 10, 15 years ago?

                  When one 'chooses' to believe, one must choose to ignore anything that might present contrary evidence in favour of something with no evidence at all, besides from subjective feelings, interpretations, and philosophical argument. If a believer decides they no longer believe it is because they have reassessed what they believe and decided to let go of those things for which they believe has no supporting evidence. They don't one day wake up and decide to rebel against God.

                  Now if Christians didn't blindly hold onto fallacies like Young Earth Creationism, the existence of demons, and eternal torture in the flames of hell, then perhaps one day when a believer comes to realise these are not true, they might not throw out the baby with the bath water.

                  1. Jerami profile image77
                    Jeramiposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    I have got to agree.  Every denomination points out certain doctrins which other denominations hold as being false doctrins.  So take one step further and look at those doctrins which your/our denomination holds which those other denominations consider to be false.
                    Now    make one big list and subtract these desputed theologies from the over all context which all believers hold dear and see what we got left.   I would be curious as to what the undesputed theologies of theist would be if it was looked at from that prospective. 
                        The belief in God would still exist.  while the bath water (so to speak) would not. 
                        Sometimes I think a persons belief in their own theology has become more important to them than God himself.
                        And I think this is what Jesus was trying to get across to the Pharisee of his day.

  3. Zelkiiro profile image84
    Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago

    God is a cute idea thought up by primitive peoples to explain scientific phenomena they had no explanation for.

    Like thunder and rainbows and volcanoes and the color of the sky.

  4. Say Yes To Life profile image86
    Say Yes To Lifeposted 3 years ago

    God is the Creator of all life.  I've come to the conclusion God exists based on logic.  A century ago, the computer was the abacus.  It has since advanced to ENIAC, then giant mainframes, then personal computers, to the highly complex machinery they are today, not by accident, but by intelligent design.  Since life is more complex than any computer, it's very likely it came about by intelligent design as well.
    God is too massive to be captured in a mere organized religion.  I think a lot of them lose sight of this, and that's one reason for so many damaging cults.  That also leads to bitterness on the part of many former believers.  I was in a cult once.  The experience taught me two things:  1) There is no "Santa Claus" sitting on a throne in the sky, and 2) There's more than one way to think.  All religions have some truth to them, but none have all the answers.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Excellent. Would you care to share your logic with us?

      1. Say Yes To Life profile image86
        Say Yes To Lifeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Sure, Mark.  I used computers as an example.  Even robots that build cars didn't create themselves; man designed those robots.  Computers have morphed from giant calculators to Technicolor laptops that can be used to communicate with people around the world, in languages that we don't even know (use Google Translate).  Massive amounts of information can be stored in a gadget you can easily hide in your hand.  Thanks to computers, the whole world is at virtually everyone's fingertips.  NONE OF THIS "EVOLUTION" HAPPENED BY ACCIDENT!  Yet, we can't so much as create a living amoeba.  So how can you say living amoebas came about by accident?
        There has to be a Major Intelligent Designer somewhere!

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Ah - that is not logic, Sorry. That is an argument from incredulity. Life is not the same thing as a computer. There is no logical reason to say that because computers evolved, there must have been an intelligent designer for life.

          And yes - the "EVOLUTION DID HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT." Unless you have some evidence that the guy who invented the abacus knew that we would end up with smart phones and "designed" it that way.

          1. Say Yes To Life profile image86
            Say Yes To Lifeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Logic 101
            1) Complex entities need much thought to be brought into existence; they don't just spring up out of nowhere by sheer accident.
            2) Computers are complex entities.  They are the way they are today because various people thought and planned it that way.  These people had greater than average intelligence; after all, not everyone can design a computer.
            3) Even Steve Jobs can't design a living amoeba.  Someone far more intelligent had to do that; it's highly unlikely this amoeba just sprang into existence out of nothing.  Steve Jobs didn't, either.
            4) If computers as we know them today didn't happen by accident, and life is more complex than any computer, how can life happen by accident?
            Finally:  I'm not saying I have all the answers.  If you can prove there is no God, go for it.

            1. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Bold assertion based on no evidence,



              Another bold assertion based on no evidence. Please provide me with the IQ tests of everyone involved and prove their intelligence id higher than average.


              Steve Jobs is dead so he cannot do anything. Highly unlikely? More bold assertions/personal opinions.


              They did indeed happen by accident. Unless you can prove to me that the original designer - let's say of the abacus, although I suspect there was an earlier version) knew we would end up with smart phones and designed it that way.



              You don't appear to have any answers at all - all you have is bold assertions based on a need to believe there is a god.

              In any case - by your logic - I have already proven there is no god. wink

 
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