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Illuminati... Who are they and what are they trying to do?

  1. Timajoy35 profile image59
    Timajoy35posted 2 years ago via iphone

    We stay a sleep. Watching their TV, listening to their music, buying their products, taking their drugs. Walking through this life in a trance. Some of of us want to stay a sleep. We know something is off, but dare not question it. The movie 'The Matrix' is just that. A movie, but the concept is real. There is more going on that we can see or feel. We are being controlled to believe what they want us to believe. There has been so many proven facts about the chemicals they put in our foods, GMO's the chemicals they spray in our skies "chemtrails" the pharmaceutical drugs they provide us to treat the so called diseases that have no natural cures. Which, has also been proven that treatments (cures) are naturally here and available, but kept secret and away from the general public so we can spend all out hard earned Money on drugs that actual kill are bodies even more. The pharmaceutical company's are the corporations of the world. They make more money then any other. The government needs them. And we blindly allow our selfs to be manipulated into thinking we will die with out these man-made drugs. This is just a taste of what they are doing to us. The question is why???

  2. Zelkiiro profile image84
    Zelkiiroposted 2 years ago

    Soylent Green is people!!

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  3. EncephaloiDead profile image60
    EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago

    I don't think I've ever seen more conspiracy theories packed into one post before.

    1. Zelkiiro profile image84
      Zelkiiroposted 2 years ago in reply to this
      1. Timajoy35 profile image59
        Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        http://s2.hubimg.com/u/9013041_f248.jpg

    2. Timajoy35 profile image59
      Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I can go on for days ... And it's all ties together. it's actually one big conspiracy with many branches of corruption

      1. EncephaloiDead profile image60
        EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Uh-huh...  roll

  4. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    The illuminati are multibillionaires who have become so powerful, through the years, they are now able to control the world in various ways. They can back off at any point according to how much we catch on and resist. If we do not resist...they will continue. If we do try to resist, they will respect the collective will. To catch on, we do need to realize the trends are real.

    They are not conspiracy theories. They are actual trends set into motion by the super rich/powerful. We must resist. Society does need to wake the heck UP!

    Why do they do what they do? How can they sleep at night? Because their power is addicting. They have more desire for Power than Love, obviously:

    Repeating:

    1. "The chemicals they put in our foods."
    2." GMO's."
    3. "The chemicals they spray in our skies: "chemtrails"
    4. "The pharmaceutical drugs they provide us to treat the so called diseases that (supposedly) have no natural cures. Which, has also been proven that treatments (cures) are naturally here and available, but kept secret and away from the general public so we can spend all out hard earned Money on drugs that actual kill are bodies even more. The pharmaceutical company's are the corporations of the world. They make more money then any other." Timajoy35

    1. Timajoy35 profile image59
      Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      @kathrynlhill.. Yes, this is truth not conspiracy. I don't understand how some people can not see this. I do however, understand why some of us know and choose to turn away. The illusion of this world is wounderful. Like I stated in my original post in the movie "The Matrix" there was a choice to be made.. If you wake up and not like what you see, there is no going back to your comfortable life. Some people don't want to risk what they have. And I don't blame them. But what's happening is just not right.. And I feel if there is more of us who believe and stand up to them, ((resist)) then maybe a change could be made.. And to be honest I don't know what that change would consist of.
      I just know that where we are heading is just as scary.

      1. EncephaloiDead profile image60
        EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Ah, it all makes perfect sense now, life is a Hollywood movie and we are mere actors portraying actors who portray actors.

        So, where's my royalty check?

    2. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      "The pharmaceutical drugs they provide us to treat the so called diseases that (supposedly) have no natural cures. Which, has also been proven that treatments (cures) are naturally here and available, but kept secret and away from the general public..."

      Can you provide specifics, with proof of the claim, or is that just another unsupported claim the likes of which we see all over the web?

      1. Timajoy35 profile image59
        Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        @wilderness. First off, No, I do not hold in my possession any sort of offical documents supporting my theories. If I had, I probably would be a billionare. Holding the secrets to the cures for the number one killers of human kind. I have researched countless stories of natural cures on the internet. Also a great friend of mine when diagnosed with cancer, instead of being treated by modern medicine. Went to a Homopathic specialist. After changing her diet and taking prescribed vitamins and herbs with in a few months she no longer had cancer. There are many stories like this. You can do your own research. And you also can believe what you want. I just find it hard to believe that you or anyone would not connect the dots and see that what I'm saying is true.

        1. Zelkiiro profile image84
          Zelkiiroposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."

          1. Timajoy35 profile image59
            Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Data... Writen information about people's findings.. Not fact. What would that prove? Like I told someone else earlier. believe whatever it is you would like. As of now, we are free to choose what it is we would like to believe in. We're entitled to our own opinions. I've been ready and researching for years. This clearly isn't my day job, so no, I don't have any written data or documents to download .. I suppose I could copy and paste website, blogs, emails. But then you would just say again.. Stories- with no real validation. And you are right about that. I don't think anyone wi be able to come up with that, because the "Powerful ones" are just that. They will let us post and speak  till out hearts desire, but like you, most will not believe and find a way to debunk the truth. They won't allow there to be actual proof..
            If we did have proof of a cure for cancer and Aids. Thousands and thousands of people would seek out how and where. Instead of from these man made pharmaceuticals, that would put the pharmaceutical and insurance company right out of business. So since I have been speaking of just this.. (Because there is so much
            more) that right there should tell you why there is no documentation stating what I just have said. And I'm sure there is, just not available on the internet...

            1. EncephaloiDead profile image60
              EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Exactly, but when you have to say it as part of your defense, then most likely, they are irrational opinions that you choose to believe with no grounding in reality.

        2. EncephaloiDead profile image60
          EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, we can do our own research and find your claims wanting, lacking evidence with no foundation in fact or logic, just purely speculative nonsense.

          You're welcome. smile

        3. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          You cannot support the claims?  What makes you think you will be believed then?  Do you hope the gullible are reading your false claims?  Do you speak only to children, hoping they will swallow your lies without asking for evidence? 

          Outside of a handful of anecdotes there ARE no dots to connect.  And when those few dots are connected, they spell only "false hope", not "cure".

          I might point out as well that making such unsupported (and false) claims about miracle cures WILL have an affect on whether people believe the unsupported claims about the Illuminati as well...

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    It is becoming clearer.

  6. Nouveau Skeptic profile image79
    Nouveau Skepticposted 2 years ago

    The illuminati are a myth based on a far less interesting reality which is complicated and ambiguous and in which we are all personally involved in screwing up the world rather than just being bystanders.

  7. Timajoy35 profile image59
    Timajoy35posted 2 years ago

    OK, here's the thing. No one has to believe what I have to say. I'm not here to recruit new believers. My original post was actually a question to fellow truth seekers. I have touched mainly on the pharmaceutical company's, but that was not my intentions. But since  I started , let me continue by commenting on your last post. I know that there are many natural alternative medicines for many things. Which are obviously healthy for your body rather then man made chemicals. This is not theory, this is fact. You can find that anywhere. Right now I'm talking.. Curing simple things like common cold, allergies, bug bites, fungus, viral and bacterial infections. All could be Taken care with changing eating habits, herbs and vitamins. Now this is information completely available everywhere. Because all thought the
    pharmaceutical company's makes tons on common cold medicines. That's not their top money makers. Also, another reason that this information isn't a threat to them is because although we all know ..(( Common knowledge )) that diet will heal us, we as the people have no time to get better. We need immediate gratification. And the companies know this. In this society, we need everything yesterday, so going to the local drug store and picking up some DayQuil .. Much
    easier.. No threat !! BUT... For the more complex illness such as Aids, Cancer and many other things. These are "uncurable illnesses " drugs and treatments will always be needed. Big money makers... I know, it's a horrible
    thought..That keeping us sick makes them an infinit amount of money. Imagine if we had a cure and didn't need all those chemo treatments, hospital stays and other drugs.. How much money would they loose?? Think about all the sick people today.  That's a lot of money loss. I don't have any data to back it up. I'm on a quest here myself. I read a lot and associate my self with people who think like me. I seek knowledge and truth.  Im not here to bend anyone's mind. The information is out there.. And there is so much more.

    Why are so many more now then ever being diagnosed with cancer .. With all the food loaded with GMO's, the chemtrails in the sky. The radiation from all the new technology. The chemicals in our lotions, deodorants and so much more. Could this have to do with rise of cancers? I don't know, but it would make sense. See, I don't claim to have all the answers, but I definitely won't stop asking the questions..

    1. Zelkiiro profile image84
      Zelkiiroposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Same reason we have more autism diagnoses. Which is also the same reason we have more tornado reports:

      Better technology means that these things can be seen and reported earlier, faster, and more often. Autism used to be "childhood schizophrenia" or simply "eccentricity," so it used to not be noticed. Tornadoes used to just go unreported, because no one was around to witness them. And cancer used to be a complete mystery entirely. Now that all three of these things are more understood, they seem to occur with more frequency when, in fact, they're happening at the same rate as they've always been.

      Just because we've only noticed gamma ray bursts for the past 50 years or so doesn't mean there were never any gamma ray bursts before then, and the fact that we have the technology to see more and more occur today doesn't mean they're increasing in frequency.

      1. Timajoy35 profile image59
        Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        My dear friend ... This is exactly what I'm talking about.. You just said it yourself .. Why first is there so many new cases of autism?? This wasn't the case 20 years ago. And detecting tornadoes.. Another perfect example on how the goverment in
        manipulating us.. They control the weather.. Look at all these major weather changes these past few years..do you really think this is the natural order of things? So now you say.. But look at all this technology to detect tornadoes. Do you think they don't know when there coming.Honey, there sending them.. Autism... Well, maybe if we didn't have to inject out children with all these harmful and yes proven Vaccines, maybe autism wouldn't needed to be detected. But I'm sure the insurance and pharmaceuticals companies love the newly diagnosed.. Why wouldn't they.. I hear of these great new drugs to help the autistic.. And now we have the technology to detect it.. Well, how much does that cost to do??? It's a chain reaction .... Wake Up people... How don't you see this ????

        1. Zelkiiro profile image84
          Zelkiiroposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          ...Really? Really?

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  8. psycheskinner profile image80
    psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago

    If you know how to cure the common cold with diet call the media--that would be worth millions.Contrary to your claims, there is not  a pharmaceutical company on earth that makes a product that claims to cure the common cold. If one did, they would be happy o make millions from it because it is not a chronic condition so their is no financial benefit whatsoever from not curing it and a huge profit to be made from having a cure.

    We all seek truth. Well, almost all. Just in different ways like confirms information like the above.

    And the main reason people get cancer a lot now is because we live long enough to get it now.  In old age you get your choice of cancer or organ failure.

    1. Timajoy35 profile image59
      Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Well the media is perfectly aware as should you be.. Certain Vitamins and Herbs can cure the common cold.. Over the counter drugs can not.. They can quickly
      alleviate the symptoms. Which I Insinuated in my last post ..

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        There is definitely a way to cure the common cold. I have done it many times. Dr. Bernard Jensen and the macrobiotic proponents will tell you how you caught the common cold and how to to cure it. If you do not cure the common cold by fasting and drinking Miso soup, it will go into bronchitis. If you do not cure bronchitis with liver cleansing remedies and teas and again reduced eating and lots of vitamin A in the way of carrots, apricots, and japanese Hokkaido pumpkin… it will go into pneumonia. Pneumonia will eventually cut off breathing abilities if not treated with total rest and vegetable/broth soups for a very long time. A cold will go away promptly of its own accord, in three days, if you treat it properly.

        1. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I do not fast and don't know what Miso soup is, but have never had a cold go into bronchitis OR pneumonia.  Neither have I ever known anyone to fast, drink Miso soup or do liver cleansing and have known no one to have a cold develop into pneumonia.  And yes, I have many colds (about 1 per year) and known many people that have suffered colds.

          It would seem that your statement is totally false.  All except the last sentence, for the body WILL cure most colds without help.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
            Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Well, you know what I mean… starve a cold, feed a fever…

          2. Timajoy35 profile image59
            Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            @wildrness... Ya know it's pretty clear to me that your very closed off. You haven't heard of Miso Soup or known anyone to fast. That tells me right there you haven't taken the time to educate your self on alternative medicines. Trust me, going In the direction we are going in... you should probably do some reading on that. And just because it's not something your familiar with, doesn't mean it's not true.. Boy, I didn't realize how many people truly are sleeping... Look around people.. Please ... Wake Up!!!

            1. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Somehow you missed the point completely.  The claim was made that fasting and Miso Soup will cure the common cold, AND that without it that same cold will develop into bronchitis and then pneumonia.

              An obvious falsehood from my own experience, as shown in the post.

              As far as "alternative" medicine - when practitioners begin to do proper studies on the efficacy of their "cures" I will believe in it.  Of course, when that is done it will no longer be "alternative" but mainstream medicine, won't it?  Funny how that works; once proven to be effective it is then frowned upon as mainstream, as if guessing as to results of treatment is preferable somehow.

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              Motown2Chitownposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Wow.  That post would have been a lot shorter if you had clearly told him you're smarter and more open minded than he is. That was really unkind and uncalled for.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
                Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Cut some slack, she is new. She just can't believe that some people are not on the same page as far as understanding the roots of health. However, she will soon realize, what is obvious to some is not obvious to others.

                Dr. Bernard Jensen advocated clean plumbing. Clogged up plumbing harbors germs and is the root cause of disease.  Unpasteurized Miso soup contains lactobacillus bacteria which helps break down matter in the colon. Fasting helps to clean out the colon and helps the body get rid of germs.
                You had to ask...
                Oh, you didn't.

                Vitamin A heals the lungs.  Orange foods/carotene contain a lot of Vitamin A.
                Pneumonia is when a cold has gone deeply into the lungs and now the person requires a lot of rest in order to heal.
                I am sure Wilderness does not eat cake and Ice cream when he gets a cold.. which would rob him of B vitamins and further clog up the works. He is probably served good old chicken soup by a loving hand and is told to rest by the owner of that loving hand.

                If you don't listen to mother nature she will box your ears.
                Take care of your cold or it could become bronchitis, ear infection or worse. The benefit of working with nature and not taking medicine or antibiotics is that your body builds up it own immunity. I am sure most people known this. Of course there are times when you really need medicine/antibiotics. Go ahead.

                1. Quilligrapher profile image89
                  Quilligrapherposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Good Evening, Ms. Hill.

                  The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention contradicts your claim for Vitamin A. While vitamin A is a valuable and necessary nutrient, the CDC does not attribute any special benefits for lung health to Vitamin A dietary intake in their 2nd National Report on Biochemical Indicators of Diet and Nutrition in the U.S. Population. The report does, however, include a note of caution. “Inadequate or excessive intake of vitamins A or E can lead to various disorders.” {1}

                  Actually, the only reference to lung health and Vitamin A was quite negative for cigarette smokers and further contradicts your claim that “Vitamin A heals the lungs.” “Results of intervention studies of smokers who used 20–30 milligrams (mg) of beta-carotene per day showed that this group had more lung cancers than placebo-treated groups. (Albanes 1996; Redlich 1998)” {2}

                  Vitamin A is considered important for a healthy immune function, epithelial growth and repair, bone growth, reproduction, and normal embryonic and fetal development (West 2006). Benefits to the lungs, however, do not appear to be important enough to mention.

                  All sorts of misinformation like these claims for Vitamin A can be found in this thread. I would only rely on certified nutritionist and medical professions for dependable advice.
                  http://s2.hubimg.com/u/6919429.jpg
                  {1} http://www.cdc.gov/nutritionreport/pdf/Fat.pdf p 3.
                  {2}  Ibid.

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    They don't know everything. I am NOT talking about vitamin A from pills. Big difference. If you are suggesting that vitamin A from foods does not help the lungs you are wrong according to my sources. I am not going to give you my sources. This info can be found anywhere. Go to a health food store. Many books will tell you.

                2. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  No, pneumonia isn't a cold (virus) that has settled deep in the lungs.  It is the lungs collecting fluid.  My son contracted pneumonia from drinking motor oil - no virus needed at all, and it is fairly common with accidents producing liquid in the lungs, still with no cold virus.

                  Actually, yes - I'm a chicken soup and bed rest man.  There have been a handful of small studies done on the question and chicken soup does seem to help cure the common cold, although the results are small and the jury is still out.

            3. Zelkiiro profile image84
              Zelkiiroposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Alternative medicine is the only way to go, you say...? Oh, look! It's that time again!

    2. Timajoy35 profile image59
      Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Oh and by the way.. We are living long enough to get cancer or organ failure... What about the countless new children diagnosises?? Cancer has no age.. Are you kidding me??

  9. word55 profile image81
    word55posted 2 years ago

    You should make a hub about this. Why not?

    1. Timajoy35 profile image59
      Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I thought that's what I was doing?? I'm not?? Totally new to this..

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        No. You are foruming. I mean participating in a Forum. You posted a discussion topic. There are many instructions on writing hubs.  Keep exploring this great site.  And Welcome, Timajoy 35!

        1. Timajoy35 profile image59
          Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you Kathryn.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
            Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Here is a warning. No personal attacks no matter how much anyone deserves it, in your opinion. If you do not heed this warning you will be banned. Usually for three days. If it is really bad, about seven days. If its really really bad, you could get banned for up to a month. I could give you for instances, but I will get banned. Enjoy.

  10. AshtonFirefly profile image81
    AshtonFireflyposted 2 years ago

    Interesting forum topic.
    For those who disagree with the OP, I can understand why but I think I understand what is attempting to be said. To Timajoy: I understand what you are trying to say, and in some sense it kind of makes sense However, pointing out that certain things are happening (i.e. that certain diseases like cancer are referred to as an uncurable disease) does point to corruption. However, what people are wanting to know is, how do you prove that this is indeed the work of a certain group called the Illuminati. Who are the illuminati? What is their goal, what info do you have about their existence, (e.g. symbols, references in history, etc.) Simply stating that it is the work of Illuminati is kind of taking a leap which those who are new to the subject would not immediately connect. I think that's healthy that we are all openly critical of information received,especially information which is as serious as this.
    Saying outright that Illuminati is a conspiracy theory is of course a matter of each individual person's opinion. If we disagree with it, then we disagree. Not a problem. You will not get banned for saying what you said. It was not a personal attack, unless I missed a post or completely missed a commenet.
    My suggestion would be, maybe don't just give us details about recorded incidents of cancer, but tell us why you think it's this Illuminati, and some incidences from history.
    For example, you could discuss the use of Illuminati symbols and its influence in our society, quotes from certain people alleged to be in the group, etc.
    This would make an excellent hub, if you were to fully explain your claims with a LOT of info. Your claim is very controversial and I feel needs a lot more clarification. I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not, but these are the forums so you don't have as much freedom to really get into your topic as much as you would with a hub.
    Just for the record, I have been doing extensive research for several years on the existence or non-existence of Illuminati, so if it helps, I know where you're coming from.
      I just really encourage you to give us more details, not just about meds, on why you believe your claim is true.
    smile Just my two cents.

    1. Timajoy35 profile image59
      Timajoy35posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      @AshtonFirefly.. Your two cents is actually greatly appreciative. And I agree with you as far as, people needing more explanations and references. My original post was vague and touched on many issues regarding the demise of our country, regarding the illumanti.  For some reason we got caught on the whole issue of Health, which is an important issue, but one of many.  I am planning on starting a Hub with reference, history and explanations. I wrote before that this is not my day job, although I would love to spend my work hours researching and documenting. It just takes too much time I don't have. But with that said, because of all the responses, I think people in general need to be more educated on this subject. It is hard to make sense of it all. It took me many years to actually wake-up and realize this was more then just conspiracy propaganda. So all the questions and skepticism is 100% understood. I for sure don't believe everything I read and I myself question everything. I think that's a good trait. That shows process. We can't except everything we are told just because someone says it. So I'm not angry with all this feedback. To me it's a step in the right direction. And now, I am going to make it my goal to spend more time gathering the information and putting out there so people have a better picture of where I coming from with all this. Then maybe they will have a little more insight and able to judge with a better perspective. I am a seeker of truth and justice. I'm not here to start a bunch of nonsense. Our world is changing and I'm scared. I feel I have wasted this forum defending myself, without even talking about what truly matters, that was not my intentions. So I will make it my goal to give you people what your asking for. Fact and References

 
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