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Intelligent Design

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    Rad Manposted 2 years ago

    I ran across this interesting interview with Ken Miller, a Christian scientist, and I'd like to here some thoughts on the interview.

    http://youtu.be/Et1oOo_rLpU

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      bBereanposted 2 years ago in reply to this

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        Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks Mr. bBerean. I've updated my post. I guess thinking I pasted it in and pasting it in are two separate things. I would like your thoughts.

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          bBereanposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks Rad.  It will be much later.  I was hoping for an article I could peruse as time allows.  33 min for a video will have to be sometime tonight.  I will chime in when I can though.

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            Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Here is where I found the link, it contains a brief description of the interview.

            http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com … evolution/

            1. bBerean profile image60
              bBereanposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks Rad. That I can have open in one of many windows and incorporate it into my normal ADD rotation.  wink

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                Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                We are obviously more alike than one would think.

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                  bBereanposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Hey, I learned a long time ago not to fight it.  It can actually almost be a very productive advantage if managed properly. When I was a kid it was called wrestless, or fidgety.  Thank goodness for multiple large monitors and windows.  wink

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                    Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    All my report cards contained the phrase, "daydreams excessively". The problem was I had more interesting things going on in my head than what the teacher was saying.

  2. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 2 years ago

    Theistic Evolution flies in the face of both "theories".
    Nice waste of reading & video time.

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      Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Why?

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        Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        He obviously didn't bother even looking at them.

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          Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I wonder if he is a 6000 year old earth adherent.

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            Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            We know they are out there, but none seem to want to admit to it.

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              Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              How many do you think? I do know one idiot who explained to me that Noah took baby dinosaurs on the ark; but he's in a very, very minor sect/cult. I don't know that many even within his congregation would agree with him.

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                Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this
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                  Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Wow. Did you see they charge $30 admission? Butt holes.

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                Disappearingheadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Ask a creationist where the dinosaurs are now if Noah had them on the Ark, it's most amusing. Ah they all died out shortly afterwards. What all of them?

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                  Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Actually, the guy I was talking about thinks they are still around. Deep in the woods, I guess

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                  Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Did they not have School House Rocks in the UK? Everybody knows they melted into the ground and now we siphon them out for oil.

                  1. Disappearinghead profile image88
                    Disappearingheadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    So why did Noah waste his time with baby dinosaurs if they were all going to die out?

                    No I've never heard of school house rock, had to Google it.

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                    Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Pretty sure that Rock show was wrong. I could be wrong, but I thought we didn't think oil was from dinosaurs anymore.

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                  Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Yes, and they somehow created fossil fuel within a few thousand years.

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                    Paul Wingertposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    But anything is possible with God! Except he can't forgive the sin he placed on great grandma (to the 32rd power) Eve or show himself!

                  2. aka-dj profile image79
                    aka-djposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    As opposed to what "scientists believe", took aeons.
                    First microscopic dead biological matter collecting on the bottom of a pool, that, when buried 2-3 miles under rock, it cooks into crude oil.
                    Yepp. That's the best explanation!

                    Just in case you want to ridicule me for making it up, here's my source;
                    http://www.livescience.com/33087-how-oi … oleum.html

      2. aka-dj profile image79
        aka-djposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        ID proposes God created everything as per Genesis, in which all was complete (and good). Nothing was left to "evolve".

        Evolution states that God is not necessary for the process to "create" what now is.

        The link proposes some strange synthesis of the two.

        1. Disappearinghead profile image88
          Disappearingheadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          And thus tigers, tyrannosaurus rex, and great white sharks were originally vegetarians.

          It's the fishy one that has always confused me. If light from the sun barely penetrates a few metres of the sea sufficient for seaweed to grow, how is it that creationists think all animals were vegetarian before the fall? What did deep sea fish eat if not other fish? Unless of course you don't classify fish as animals or carnivorous.

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      Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Here we have a theist trying to make your argument and you think that a waste of time?

      1. aka-dj profile image79
        aka-djposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Not my argument.
        I don't hold a "God-guided-evolution" model.
        Never have.

  3. lone77star profile image90
    lone77starposted 2 years ago

    Rad, I listened to the first few minutes. Good stuff. That comes close to my own worldview on the topic.

    Evolution is part of God's intelligence imbedded in physical matter.

    California scientists several years ago found that smashing a few simple chemicals at meteoric velocities added complexity to the mix, bringing the chemicals closer to those of life. How cool is that.

    I find it funny that some scientists think they already know it all, but the restraint in skepticism was supposed to prevent that kind of "full cup" arrogance.

    There are many things we still don't know. I only recently discovered that the Bible was written in code by Kabbalists, and most Jews and Christians don't know the code. Atheists don't know squat about the Bible. There's more to learn.

    As a scientist, engineer, artist and spiritual searcher of Truth, I'm always learning new things. That takes a degree of humility. And that's not always easy.

    1. Sed-me profile image84
      Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Do you mind if I ask where you learned this?

    2. Paul Wingert profile image78
      Paul Wingertposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Actually atheists know more about the Bible an any religious group combined. That's how most became atheists!

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      Paul Wingertposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      "Evolution is part of God's intelligence imbedded in physical matter." LMAO! God would have to have a higher level of intelligence that what he was creating! So far I'm not impressed. Let's hear the lame excuses for our imaginary sky daddy.

 
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