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Do We Teach about 'God' in Schools?

  1. God shet profile image61
    God shetposted 2 years ago

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

    ~ Thomas Jefferson [The Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776]

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    I do not know of a single person who had the fortune to be taught in school that God exists and that this 'thing' (God) deserves attention. It has always remained to me one of those little mysteries of life whose answers can not be found very easily. I have always contented myself with the fact that human cultures are capable of demonstrating incredible examples of interesting hypocrisies.

    Seriously speaking, I feel that it is hypocritical not to instruct our children about God ~ if we really feel (and think) that 'God' is a reality of some sort ~ and that 'It' really exists and this is the 'thing' whom they would have to meet again, once their life expires somewhere less than a century afterwards.

    If you think about it this way:  Children starting school this year ~ would not exist in 2114. They would all be in the company of 'God' in the spiritual dimension. If this is all true ~ then it becomes an urgent necessity that we give them that information right now and help them prepare their life accordingly.



    The most 'working' (valid) reason that people provide for the phenomenon (of not teaching about God in schools) ~ is this: that 'God' is something which has not yet been proven in such a way that everyone can accept Its existence wholeheartedly, with full assurance, and doubtlessly.

    Where is the scientist who has won a Nobel Prize by discovering 'the adobe of God' ~ telling us how God spends His day and what He loves to do during the hot summer afternoons?

    But then ~ there are many other such 'things' ~ like God ~ that we teach in schools which have never been shown to exist. Who has witnessed with his/her own eyes one species transforming into another? Who have seen that a bacterium somehow managed itself to become the human being who is writing this now? You might argue that we teach 'evolution' not as a fact but as a theory. Well, we can do the same thing about God and elaborate to young children worldwide why God is such a valid possibility as 'evolution'. But right now, we do not. There is a very subtle discrimination among teachers and educators to make 'evolution' the most obvious reason behind the origin of life on earth ~ while subconsciously discrediting 'God' as being a superstitious, unscientific, primitive belief system.



    All these could be tolerated had we not credited God so much outside of our schools. Almost every human culture have invested a tremendous amount of faith and activity on and around God. In every culture they have built institutions where we can assemble and connect, in some way or the other, with our Creator. Our presidents mention God whenever they are challenged with adversity. You would find them mentioning 'God' if you investigate every major political speeches ever delivered. Almost every constitution of the world point to the 'Almighty Creator' when they proclaim their 'absolute right' to control the social, and political life of the individuals in their respective societies.

    The amount of money invested and the amount of time and effort spent for 'god' is mind-boggling. If you compare the total human activity generated by the idea of 'God' ~ with FIFA World Cup or the Olympics ~ the latter ones seem like a sandcastle compared to a real castle.

    And yet, this 'idea' isn't taken as seriously as we consider to let our children know about it so that they might get benefited.

    If it isn't hypocrisy, what is it?

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      Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      The problem with teaching God in school is we wouldn't know whose God to teach. The best place for the discussion is in the home, if the parents deem it appropriate. I would never support tax payer dollars and valuable school time to be dedicated to teaching about God. I do not want someone I don't know pushing ideas on my child in an environment specifically designed to embed ideas into their impressionable brains.

      1. God shet profile image61
        God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Well, parents can arrange it so that school-teachers teach about the God that they (parents) feel fits best their child.

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          Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          And the taxpayer should foot the bill? At what point do you see that parents should take the responsibility of teaching their children anything? Should we rely on the state to do it all?

          1. God shet profile image61
            God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Well, the parents (taxpayers) should pay the teachers for the specific God that they (the tax-paying parent) have designated the teachers to teach their children.

            There would be no point to dispute if each parent pay for their own God in schools.

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              Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Right, private schools not public school, I personally do not want to be paying for my child's education when the teacher has to meet individually with each child for a half hour to discuss their religion. Imagine a Christian teacher teaching a Muslim student about his faith. Think first.

              1. God shet profile image61
                God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                I'm talking about public school and not private school. And my contention isn't primarily about religion (though that eventually pops up into the picture), but it is about 'the reality of God'.

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                  Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  "The reality of God" is about religion and nothing else. Would you expect a Baptist to teach an Atheist about Atheism? I think parents are capable of teaching their children what they need to know about religion.

                  This is really a very silly un-thougtout proposal. Do you really want a teaching teaching things to children he/she doesn't believe themselves? Is she going to teach little Johnny about Hinduism? Should he/she talk to the class openly about God? Little Johnny will be wondering which one he/she is referring to, he has thousands.

                  Silly.

                  1. God shet profile image61
                    God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    'the reality of God' and 'religion' are two separate issues.

                2. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  About all a teacher could say is that there IS no known "reality of God".  Lots of people THINK there is, but we've never found it, so believe as you wish.

                  Of course, they could then go into astrology, UFO's, ghosts, Nessie, Bigfoot and all the other quaint beliefs man has come up with over the years.  After all, the kids might meet up with Bigfoot one day...

                  1. God shet profile image61
                    God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    People do not spend their time and money for Bigfoot.

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                  Motown2Chitownposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  With all due respect, there is not one single aspect of public education that would be improved or better served by adding education about "God." The primary problem is that while many may believe there is only one capital "G" god to rule us all, the understanding of who that is or what he does differs literally from person to person. Even if every person was teaching a Christian creator, for example, the variances from denomination to denomination are large enough to create problems, not to mention the huge variances between faith families, such as Judaism and Islam.

                  To be forced to have my child educated by someone who teaches them differently about God than I would is an affront to me as a parent. I personally would refuse to allow public schools to usurp my parental authority in such a way.

                  1. God shet profile image61
                    God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Agreed. But you might get a teacher that you trust or just like his/her talent in that he/she can bring the same God that you yourself have faith in, to your children, and to all of us as a society.


                    My point is that if we take our God seriously ~ we need to teach about it with full confidence in public, just as we pray in public. That is a sincere system. And it might profit our children in such a way that we are not perceiving it right now.

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              Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              A completely ridiculous and unworkable idea. But, thanks for sharing.

              1. God shet profile image61
                God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                The ridicule lies somewhere inside an unnoticed corner of the idea.

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                  Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  So, are you now showing ridicule for your idea? Are you so easily swayed?

                  1. God shet profile image61
                    God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Well, irony isn't always as easily detected as a religious idea.

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                  Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  The idea the worked when everyone was the same faith.

            3. Link10103 profile image79
              Link10103posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              ....in a public school, your logic borders on insanity.

              If you want god to be taught to your child, send them to a private school that supports that. Better yet, get a private tutor or teach them yourself.

              I am not entirely sure if you are thinking these things through. With your logic, more time and money is being spent on religious teachings than anything else.

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          Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Perhaps you should think out your thoughts a little first. Do you think we should educated every teacher on how to teach every religion to children as fact individually?

          I was taught that the Catholic version of God exist in school and had no reason to feel otherwise. If you want your child taught that a particular version of God exists then you should consider a private school. As it turns out where I live Catholic school are publicly funded, but that will eventually change.

          But please put your thinking cap on.

          1. God shet profile image61
            God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Well, teaching has always been a creative career. And a truly creative person might blank out his/her individual beliefs and preferences in order to meet the criteria of excellence during a creative challenge.

        3. Jomine Jose profile image78
          Jomine Joseposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          It is better to teach children why humans believe 'god exists'.

        4. Righteous Atheist profile image60
          Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          LOL

          25 different gods to teach about? lol

          Who will teach these teachers about all these gods?

          1. God shet profile image61
            God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Voters might begin with their ministry of education.

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              Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Voters have already spoken here in America. You are in a very small minority.

              1. God shet profile image61
                God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Then voters lack awareness on this issue ~ among many other 'issues' as well.

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                  Emile Rposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  lol lol  Yeh. OK. The blind trying to herd the blind. That's what your argument is boiling down to. Those with the gift of sight should pretend they don't have it.

                  1. God shet profile image61
                    God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Well, there are many other subjects where people still have left space for serious disharmony, and possible reconsiderations thereof. You might begin with education, among many of them. It's something very practical.

                    The disconnection between what we believe to be true and how we live our lives, which should have adequate connection between them.

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                  Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  No, you mean that voters lack your awareness on the issue, they also lack the muslim awareness of Sharia law, good thing eh?

                  1. God shet profile image61
                    God shetposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    They have their own set of laws that drive them to spend their resources in a very prominent way.

            2. Righteous Atheist profile image60
              Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Really? Lets us hope that never happens. As usual your "ideas" are as useful as they are workable. wink

    2. EncephaloiDead profile image60
      EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      So, it's not enough societies continue to indoctrinate their children in churches and at home, you want us to further corrupt their minds in school, too?



      And, if it is not true? Then, we've corrupted our children's minds for nothing.



      Interestingly enough, you probably don't know this, but schools are places to learn things about the world around us, things that actually exist in our world that everyone can agree.



      There is no such scientist because there is no such God.



      It would appear you don't understand that evolution occurs over vast periods of time, that is why we cannot witness those changes happening in front of our eyes, they take many millions of years to occur. If you had attended school and learned these things, you probably wouldn't be asking such silly, childish questions.



      Evolution is taught as theory and as fact. Had you attended school, you would know this fact.



      The only difference is that evolution has massive amounts of hard evidence to support it across a wide range of sciences, God has no evidence whatsoever.



      Had you attended school, you would have learned that evolution has nothing to do with our origins, that is another topic altogether. Yes, your religion is indeed a superstitious, unscientific, primitive belief system.

    3. cjhunsinger profile image70
      cjhunsingerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Your quote, "--by their creator--", seems to be a problem. How do 'they' define their creator and who is their creator is not a definition left left to the state or to you. For the Jew it will be different and too, the Muslim, the Hindu, the Deist, the agnostic and the Atheist. As an Atheist my creator is an evolutionary process that started billions of years ago culminating in the persons of my father and mother.
      Your quest to provide a truth through the manipulation of these great documents does not serve your cause or you well.


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  2. Jaydeus profile image79
    Jaydeusposted 2 years ago

    Who's God? Yours or mine, or his, or hers?
    You can't prove the existence of your God, nor prove the non-existence of mine(because you can't prove a negative). Why would we try to teach such logical fallacies to our children who are to inherit the future? Seems detrimental to me.

  3. Jaydeus profile image79
    Jaydeusposted 2 years ago

    You can provide evidence of evolution, yet the only evidence of God is your lack of understanding a phenomenon. That's not evidence of God.

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    Nigel Morris9posted 2 years ago

    But religion is still apart of lifethat the children need to know.

    1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
      Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      They need to know it is divisive nonsense - yes. wink

    2. EncephaloiDead profile image60
      EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I would agree with you.

      Children need to know that religions require them to accept from a huge array of beliefs and claims to the supernatural, without critique or question, a limited, personal version sliced wafer thin from that array, to hold important and unequivocally as the ultimate truth above all else, including ones own family members, the very purpose of their existence to reject all forms of fact and information that would jeopardize their religion and the false reality they've sliced out for themselves.

      Of course, for an adult to tell a child of such things is very easy, children would be fascinated with such magic and mystery.

      The really hard part, though, is to try and teach them anything about the world around them once you've convinced them of following a religion.

 
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