The fear of death is the root of failure, the beginnng of foolishness. If you are afraid to die you will never live. Death is not real. It is an aberration. You can rise above the fear of death. Yet the fear of death reigns supreme in men and women.
There's much to be said on the subject, but I can't say all here now for lack of time. You can get the total package on <snipped - do not start threads to promote your hubs in the forums>
Starting threads to advertise your hubs is frowned upon. Although - you have touched on one of my proofs that all you believers do not really believe in a god.
Because if you genuinely believed - none of you would be afraid of anything.
As to say, we collective aren't afraid now?
By getting humanity to realize that death is inevitable, a simple fact of life, we can only hope that it allows us to look ahead and direct our society in a better fashion.
But I'm getting ahead of myself.
Love the comment, Mark.
Thanks. I am not afraid of death myself. At least right now. as you say - it is inevitable.
I am afraid of dentists though...........
I agree its mans biggest doubt so his greatest fear.
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The biggest folly man lives with- like he is never going to die.
I am not afraid of death. What I am afraid of is the pain there is when I release this shell as it is a heavy thing. I am not afriad of death, but am of not seeing all my friends and relations for a while....more of a missing feeling not fear.
yeah, I feel similar. Not afraid of death but can't bear the thought of knowing when I am gone that who I leave behind will hurt.
A daughter without her mother, a husband without his wife a parent without their child...
And even if you say, don't be sad I will be okay and I will see you soon... it doesn't remove the grief.
You will definitely fill scared when death will come to your way..
As when you will be driving n suddenly ur life ll come to an end...like such reasons..
Death is my friend,
Where there is no trend,
It is really near.
Death is going back home some fear it some welcome it.
Religion shows you how to go beyond,that your soul or spirit lives on and that death is the door to God your home.
No way ,you are a lot more alive and conscious in death than you can ever be when you are alive.Enlightenment is getting a glimpse of that god conscious state.
Thats why the wise say we are in a dream state and need to wake up.
Death is the door from this consciousness to god consciousness.
It is your consciousness that holds all the knowing of self, when that is gone, so are you. What you call god, I call religiosity and it is an inherent part of our sub-conscious and through our socially learnt symbols becomes a part of mass consciousness. Your god is in your head, your spirituality and soul are life functions, and life is not dependant on your imagined gods.
God or the Light is the source of all including you.Revelation or enlightenment is about connecting with this source.
Religion has nothing to do with that at all. Religion is of MAN. Those of us who have been there know much more. We never end.
Bah. I disagree. Maybe the fear of death is a thing that pushes us to live, experience, and create while living. Why is tragedy considered the greater art form, above comedy (although both are reactions to death, in reality)? Because it speaks to the human condition--the knowledge of death--something we as human beings are aware of, and are the ONLY life forms that are fully aware.
Anything beautiful always has that slight glimpse of fear, I think, so what is that about...?
Well, this is waxing Shakespearean, but why not? Different perspective for the 'ol religion forum, . lol
Don't you think some people, like myself, aren't afraid of death- that we are just afraid of never seeing our love ones again or what might become of them. I don't fear death. I know what I mean to my family. I know how much I'm loved, liked and wanted. I know my worth. I am afraid for them. I don't want them to suffer, cry, miss me, hurt because of my absence. I love them. The last thing I'd ever want is for them to cry over me.
I think most people feel exactly the same as you do.
[You're welcome Mark, and thanks for sharing that with me. I've gotten to know you better already. ]
And RK and Sandra...you're absolutely right, and these are good ways to approach life.
But never forget that without a baseline for pain we couldn't have a baseline for happiness. Suffering and torment are facts of life, the only thing we can do is learn from it and come closer to each other.
Fear is unworthy of a child of God whos perfect love casts out. It destroys the confidence that a child should feel in a loving Father and produces instead feelings of shame and guilt.
I fear perfection when it is spoken of like this more than death!
OH, Should he not, "retain that dear perfection which he owest without title?"
DEATH be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so,
For, those, whom thou think'st, thou dost overthrow,
Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee,
Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee doe goe,
Rest of their bones, and soules deliverie.
Thou art slave to Fate, Chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poyson, warre, and sicknesse dwell,
And poppie, or charmes can make us sleepe as well,
And better then thy stroake; why swell'st thou then;
One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally,
And death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die.
Then tell me why religion teaches FEAR of........
whatever you want to put in there.
I do not know why some religions teach fear accept perhaps because they do not have a true understanding of the scriptures, and the condemnation of God.
I see nothing but threats of death and fear right through the bible. The major teachings of religion have a god as psychotic as Zeus.
Quote from them and I will try and explain
Thank you for the kind offer, I will decline. Despite the many interpretations of the writings themselves, there are hundreds of such threats throughout all the holy books that are mainstream alone, and then thousands more in all the variations of religious belief of the other hundreds of creeds that make similar claims of death and destruction by judgments from above or from their god.
I guess we have arrived at differing opinions from our lives and experiences, thoughts and influences. I do not believe in your god.None of your concepts are real to me. I see them as based on a wrong premise. I avoid theosophical arguments, as the last one I had lasted for two years! I would have to cut and paste as it has been many years since I studied, and would be no match for you at this time.You seem to have made my point for me when you mention the condemnation of god.
Well then you can read some threads where I clarified the meaning of the so called threat.
I must say I have seen most arguments already, and have not arrived at the same conclusion.
I am not speaking of threads, I have read them all as I usually do. I am talking about my own life experiences and what I have learnt.
Yes but coming on a religious forum and shouting that there is no god doesn't change the truth that god exists.
Perhaps you only want to speak with those who agree with you, I feel comfortable here thank you, and you may have noticed not everyone shares your views here.
You cannot answer anyone's spiritual questions, I can
Who was it recently whikat who asked a question which you said was non sense.I thought it was an intelligent question and answered him- apparently yes.
There is not a person alive who does not have an opinion on religion, yours is yet another.
You couldn't even understand what he was asking.
Try to read my hub about God. Its a natural tendency for us humans to fear because in the first place we don't want to suffer and all we wanted is a comfortable life. we fear everything that will destroy our body but God told us nothing to fear if we only trust in him even death.
Nice bit of John Donne. The man was into paradox!
Have one of mine -
The one who comes again is not the one
to fear. That he returns serves but to show
he will not stay for long. His work is done
by stages, little cuts and tears. You know
him more by the delusion in his passing,
the false relief, as of a toothache dulled
by aspirin, than by the slow amassing
of marks and scars. His legacy, anulled
not even partially by misplaced hope,
kindles a beacon to the one who bides
his time in shadow, watching, as you grope
towards his long embrace. Silent, he slides
a silver cord around you and the glint
of death is beautiful, and cold as flint.
We've sprung up poetry all over Hubpages for April, poetry month!
Even beautiful deaths, like flowers!
That was beautiful Paraglider! And I appreciate showing me John Donne, Onusonus.
Here's one of mine...a bit darker, but it was published somewhere..if memory serves me..not sure where. And it ties in with the flowers...
My own personal hell
In my own impersonal thoughts
I'd like to kill,
I'd like to end,
I'd like to never have been.
My own personal hell,
In my own confining cell.
I don't see a reason
To continue this existence,
I can't seek acceptance within.
Dirty and rotten,
Bored through and forgotten.
Sheered away by sands of time,
Just cover my body in lime.
I have deadened - I have withered.
I was dead for millions of years before I was born and it never inconvenience me a bit. - Mark Twain
I liked it. :)The atheist is looking for enlightenment-the final proof which is just fine.
Thanks. But look at the first comment I got from publishing that hub. As time goes by I've proved him wrong. Wink*
I read it.Truth will allways win. ; followed by ) for the wink
Truth seldom wins in a world full of religion truth is the first loss.
As usual you missed it. Mark was pointing out that it is your nonsense, but I guess you take that as a compliment too?
We have opposite views but will not kill each other for them , we have peace between us -"live and let live"-Mahavira.
you asking me? just please read my hub and see who has negative comment on it maybe the first guy but anyway he appreciated me for such courage to published it I'm not afraid of atheist people. lol
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