The fear of death is the root of failure, the beginnng of foolishness. If you are afraid to die you will never live. Death is not real. It is an aberration. You can rise above the fear of death. Yet the fear of death reigns supreme in men and women.
There's much to be said on the subject, but I can't say all here now for lack of time. You can get the total package on <snipped - do not start threads to promote your hubs in the forums>
I am not afraid of death. What I am afraid of is the pain there is when I release this shell as it is a heavy thing. I am not afriad of death, but am of not seeing all my friends and relations for a while....more of a missing feeling not fear.
yeah, I feel similar. Not afraid of death but can't bear the thought of knowing when I am gone that who I leave behind will hurt. A daughter without her mother, a husband without his wife a parent without their child... And even if you say, don't be sad I will be okay and I will see you soon... it doesn't remove the grief.
No way ,you are a lot more alive and conscious in death than you can ever be when you are alive.Enlightenment is getting a glimpse of that god conscious state. Thats why the wise say we are in a dream state and need to wake up. Death is the door from this consciousness to god consciousness.
It is your consciousness that holds all the knowing of self, when that is gone, so are you. What you call god, I call religiosity and it is an inherent part of our sub-conscious and through our socially learnt symbols becomes a part of mass consciousness. Your god is in your head, your spirituality and soul are life functions, and life is not dependant on your imagined gods.
Bah. I disagree. Maybe the fear of death is a thing that pushes us to live, experience, and create while living. Why is tragedy considered the greater art form, above comedy (although both are reactions to death, in reality)? Because it speaks to the human condition--the knowledge of death--something we as human beings are aware of, and are the ONLY life forms that are fully aware.
Anything beautiful always has that slight glimpse of fear, I think, so what is that about...?
Well, this is waxing Shakespearean, but why not? Different perspective for the 'ol religion forum, . lol
Don't you think some people, like myself, aren't afraid of death- that we are just afraid of never seeing our love ones again or what might become of them. I don't fear death. I know what I mean to my family. I know how much I'm loved, liked and wanted. I know my worth. I am afraid for them. I don't want them to suffer, cry, miss me, hurt because of my absence. I love them. The last thing I'd ever want is for them to cry over me.
[You're welcome Mark, and thanks for sharing that with me. I've gotten to know you better already. ]
And RK and Sandra...you're absolutely right, and these are good ways to approach life.
But never forget that without a baseline for pain we couldn't have a baseline for happiness. Suffering and torment are facts of life, the only thing we can do is learn from it and come closer to each other.
DEATH be not proud, though some have called thee Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so, For, those, whom thou think'st, thou dost overthrow, Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me. From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee, Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow, And soonest our best men with thee doe goe, Rest of their bones, and soules deliverie. Thou art slave to Fate, Chance, kings, and desperate men, And dost with poyson, warre, and sicknesse dwell, And poppie, or charmes can make us sleepe as well, And better then thy stroake; why swell'st thou then; One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally, And death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die.
Thank you for the kind offer, I will decline. Despite the many interpretations of the writings themselves, there are hundreds of such threats throughout all the holy books that are mainstream alone, and then thousands more in all the variations of religious belief of the other hundreds of creeds that make similar claims of death and destruction by judgments from above or from their god. I guess we have arrived at differing opinions from our lives and experiences, thoughts and influences. I do not believe in your god.None of your concepts are real to me. I see them as based on a wrong premise. I avoid theosophical arguments, as the last one I had lasted for two years! I would have to cut and paste as it has been many years since I studied, and would be no match for you at this time.You seem to have made my point for me when you mention the condemnation of god.
Try to read my hub about God. Its a natural tendency for us humans to fear because in the first place we don't want to suffer and all we wanted is a comfortable life. we fear everything that will destroy our body but God told us nothing to fear if we only trust in him even death.
Nice bit of John Donne. The man was into paradox! Have one of mine -
Lord Yama The one who comes again is not the one to fear. That he returns serves but to show he will not stay for long. His work is done by stages, little cuts and tears. You know him more by the delusion in his passing, the false relief, as of a toothache dulled by aspirin, than by the slow amassing of marks and scars. His legacy, anulled not even partially by misplaced hope, kindles a beacon to the one who bides his time in shadow, watching, as you grope towards his long embrace. Silent, he slides a silver cord around you and the glint of death is beautiful, and cold as flint.
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