When did this whole religion thing really start ? Was it after that people started asking questions to their leaders ? Questions like : What is the origin of life ? What is the sun made of ? Why must YOU be the leader ? A true leader offcourse cannot admit he doesn't hold answers ,for this could undermine his position ;so these guys not only came up with answers but achieved the incredible stunt of connecting themselves with the gods they just invented . After that they where called priests .
And so this story goes on since prehistoric times.
I think the original message has been tampered with,but you clearly understand waht I mean.let's not take this discussion to a level where the simplicity of the questions and their possible answers could get lost.I've been raised by jesuits from my fifth till my thirteenth year,I think I know most of the tricks;-)
Similar no one really knows.The first recorded prophet is considered to be Zarathustra- The Parsi Prophet but then you had the mystics from Asia ,America, Africa and South America before that, so no one can give a proper date.We do not know since when man has been inhabiting this world.
There is good evidence that Homo sapiens originated in East Africa around 200,000 years ago.
I suspect they needed an answer to the unanswerable pretty soon afterwards, and the first "religion" or "art" we have found is the cave paintings in Chauvet, France depicting hunting "magic." These are thought to be 32,000 years old.
True we are animals, tiny insects on this planet in one aspect. When the tsunami happened in south India all the animals ran up the mountains or hills, the elephants broke their chains and ran.It was the human who didn't , so I believe that animals are connected to the divine more than most human.They can sense you so easily while a human cannot.
Its just that this earth has changed so much with time, Teutonic plates shifting and changing the face of the earth.The Himalayas happened this way with time .Then the poles are supposed to shift with time and create destruction so how do we know if there was human life before and could probably be buried so deep and haven't yet found it. We both know make money talks out of ego.I gave him the benefit of the doubt earlier on but you were correct and I was wrong.
I'M SURE SOMETHING LIKE THIS DID HAPPEN ALL THOSE EONS AGO IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER - NOBODY KNEW ANY ANSWERS TO MANKIND'S TROUBLING QUESTIONS, SO THEY MADE THEM UP AND THE MOST COURGEOUS OF THE LOT APPOINTED THEMSELVES THE NUMBER ONE AUTHORITY - HE ATTACHED A TITLE TO HIS NAME AND WALLA!
HE BECAME THE HIGH PRIEST OR WHATEVER THE POSITION WAS CALLED AT THE TIME -
YES - THAT COULD HAVE VERY WELL HAVE OCCURRED WAY BACK THEN -
God says:(Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. )
Ahh..when did it start? My favourite quote in regards to this...
"When Neanderthal man walked out of his cave to see a sky of stars, he reached up to try and grab one to eat it. When he couldn't do so, he figured they belonged to someone else, and thus God was born."
Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!'
This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it's still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise.
I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.
If religion started when god created the earth, what about the other religions? Is there only one god (i believe there is) but that is contradicting the other religions of hindu with mutiple gods. Anyway theres the theory of evoulution and life dates back millions of years.
The Gods are in the sky.Seven levels of angesl being an ancient categorisation system for the brightness and colour of visible stars. The solar system planets are the gods who pop up in much of mythology, christianity begins by mentioning three wise men visiting from the east which has to be a conjunction of three planets or some other astronomical event which has been placed into an existing greek story.
As soon as a child looks up at the sky there are Gods being created. The names may change but the characteristics remain the same.Add the natural forces of the earth to the Sun, Moon and stars and you pretty much have an explanation for every religion on the planet.
Thats not a bad thing , or a good thing, its just a useful explanation and happens to be the one I believe.
Religion started back when apes, our ancestors (ironic isn't it), those apes started thinking about things and becoming curious, asking themselves questions, if they don't understand it they believe of some mystic force and from there is built on until somehow theres christianity and islam and whatever religion
I have noticed on several posts (including other threads) citing "controlling the masses" (and the like) as reasons/origins of religion. That may be true for religion, but Jesus, talking to His disciples said to "turn the other cheek, lay down your life for others, love your enemies, he that wants to be the greatest among you, let him be servant of all. . ." Doesn't sound like controlling words to me.
I would use words a little stronger than "nice". Opening doors for ladies, standing up for an elder on a bus, they are nice. We need to have a lot more "backbone" in our convictions, to follow the teachings I referred to. Wish I could say I have it "down pat", sadly, I don't.
Jezus Christ in his time must be considered not only as a dissident from the jewish religion but also as an extreme purist who wanted his idea of a god to be pushed thrue to the extreme,he even was willing to die for it.Should we place this in the actual and modern context we could compare him to taliban and other zealots.Furhermore we must consider at the least two points:first that J.C.was a good psychologist who knew that most people really want to live in harmony with themselves and with others, for it makes life easier and that they tend to find a "cause" more important when big sacrifices are required from them (the nazis did not otherwise).Second is that the philosophy wich eventually could serve us in daily life, got completely obnubilated by by the modifications and the manipulations made by those who where really using this figure to gain power and wealth (let's not forget inquisition and the burning of thousands of jews and "sorcerers" in europe in the past centuries).
There is a dark side as such to god or the cosmos which we cannot deny. Hindu philosophy depicts this as Kali where the basis is sex and destruction.Then you have her fair and loving side ,that of motherly love.