If Christianity is indeed the way, the truth and the life and presumably, a universal fact, then why for almost millions of years now do Christians still unable to convert all the people in the world to embrace this supposedly universal fact? On the contrary, it even stirred up more resistance against the secular world. Do Christian teachers have a problem with their semantic ability? Where they not credible enough to teach? Or is Christianity simply a fabricated truth? What do you think?
I continue to tell ALL GOD SAID (aka JESUS) "If you love me keep my "commandments" (John 14:15) and the GREATEST COMMANDMENT Was to show our LOVE for HIM by "obeying" REMEMBER? Matthew 22:37-38 "Love the Lord thy GOD with all your heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the FIRST and GREATEST commandment.
We "SAY" we "Love the LORD" but do we "keep HIS commandments?" If not, How can we LOVE HIM?
As I mentioned in my response to the original question, when your earthly father leaves home and leaves commands you obey or suffer consequences; the same it is with GOD!
GOD told us "AFTER THOSE DAYS" (or after HE ascends into heaven), HE would make a New Covenant wherein HE would "put HIS laws in our hearts and minds" (Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 8:10; 10:16) and we would not have to "teach our neighbor anything" (Jeremiah 31:34) for HE would speak to us DIRECTLY as HE did the "apostles whom HE had chosen" on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 1:2)!
But who BELIEVES what's WRITTEN? Did I not give Scriptures? Now you have people not of the faith asking questions such as this! You "Christians" should be "ASHAMED!"
My loving neighbor (BDN9385) would like to know why are we not "WITH ONE ACCORD?" What happened? Is Christianity simply a fabricated truth? LOOK WHAT WE'VE DONE! We didn't "OBEY" yet "PROCLAIM" Christianity and the world sees us as "A FABRICATED TRUTH!" SAD!
Did not JESUS command us to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for the "Communication Line" (aka HOLY SPIRIT) from which HE would speak to us DIRECTLY? Did HE not "PROMISE" the "Communication Line" ("The Comforter; aka HOLY SPIRIT) in John 14:26;16:13? Did GOD not say in Acts 1:2 "HE spoke to the Apostles whom HE had chosen" via the "Communication Line" (aka HOLY SPIRIT)? Did GOD not say in Hebrews 13:8 JESUS CHRIST [is] the same yesterday, today and forever?" Well, if HE did it "BACK THEN" HE does it "TODAY!"
But you didn't "WAIT!" You didn't "OBEY" as "COMMANDED!" You just "took off" with your "interpretation," your "knowledge, your "research," your "education," your "traditions" and CLAIM you LOVE THE LORD!
How can HE "Communicate" with with us IF we don't "connect?" I've said BEFORE if GOD was Hispanic, we would have to learn Spanish, but GOD is "SPIRIT," what makes you think we don't have to learn how to "...worship HIM in Spirit..." (John 4:23-24)?
We are an embarrassment to "Christianity!" We've just gone out and found a "denomination" that believes in what pleases "our" lifestyle and become a member! If you are LBGT you find a denomination that accepts! If you have interpreted Scripture to believe "The Trinity" you accept! If you believe the Communion is to be done via ritual, you accept! Anything that "pleases the flesh," you accept and "PROCLAIM" Christianity without "OBEYING" HIS COMMANDS!
How do you feel when a MUSLIM is asking "What happened in Christianity?" How do you think GOD feels? Don't you know HE'S TIRED of MOST "playing church?"
BDN: I BELIEVE GOD places people in our lives to "show them" the RIGHT WAY! I BELIEVE GOD'S WORD IS TRUE! I BELIEVE when HE SAID "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world for a witness unto ALL nations; and then SHALL THE END COME" (Matthew 24:14) IT IS TRUTH!
When GOD wrote HIS "inspired WORDS" (II Timothy 3:16) IT WAS FINISHED! GOD SAID in Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto EVERY MAN that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If ANY MAN shall ADD unto these things, GOD shall ADD unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if ANY MAN shall TAKE AWAY from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall TAKE AWAY his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." So the Prophet Muhammad, Buddha, Hinduism, NWT, KJV, or ANYONE ELSE should "FEAR" GOD for HE HAS SPOKEN!
However, not to worry IF you have "obeyed" HIS "LAST COMMANDMENT" - "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for the "PROMISE" (John 14:26;16:13) who will "lead and guide you into "ALL" truth!" which includes "additions and deletions" as well!
Norine, as requested I have posted this forum for you. Let me be therefore clear on this. Christianity as we knew it today is very erratic. As I have said, it was not Christ who arrived 2000 years ago but God Himself, the Father of Christ. The Father did not explicitly revealed His true identity but wise people can discern it. Many times He implied it in His statements. Soon I will write a hub detailing that Christ did not come at the end of the 4th Millennium but will come at the start of the 7th Millennium instead.
God is probably the most misunderstood person of all, leaving an impression to skeptical people that He is an Evil Father who sacrificed His own Son. Why!? Did He allowed Isaac to be sacrificed by Abraham or did He provided another Lamb on his stead? He will never volunteer His Son to be killed for somebody else's sin! It was His Son who volunteered Himself after seeing the lead of His Father.
What Fathers do to His Son, He protects Him!
God 2000 years ago came and died on the Cross to:
1. Create the great Sea Monsters which are Christianity & Islam
2. Redeem His Son
3. Secretly instruct His Son on what He is going to do on the latter days by Himself mimicking what is going to happen to Him on the latter days.
None of the prophecies pertaining to Christ has already been fulfilled 2000 years ago. It was just a play. Even the Devils knew that it was Him that's why they are very very afraid of Him. That is also the reason why He is able to perform all those miracles. Did He not say "Nobody came up to heaven except He that came down from Heaven, even the Son of Man" ?
Thus, we are still under the Old Testament with the exception that today, He might already be there hiding among us which is likely the case because it is already the end times.
The Job of His Son, today, the Anointed one of God is to:
1. Preach the Gospel of the Truth unto all Nations which was secretly given unto Him by His Father.
2. Call out His Church and Nurture Her to become His Wife in His Kingdom
3. Fulfill everything that is written in the Bible pertaining to Him.
The World has been deceived by the Devil into thinking that He already came so that when He comes, People will see Him as the Anti Christ and fight against Him and kill Him. Then the Devil after wards will perform signs and wonders in heavens making people believe that it was already the 2nd coming of Christ.
And that is why God created the Islam! The Christians and the whole world is going to reject Christ but He will find a refuge in Islam, the Armies of God. This has been foretold by the story of Solomon having a relationship with the Queen of Sheba (black but beautiful). Christ will be disguised as the Muslim's 12th Immam and will start punishing the World. The Bible calls it the wrath of the lamb! and the Sun turning into Black as sackcloth! The Mahabharata & Ramayana of the Hindus also foretold this story.
There are millions of things that we still do not know yet regarding the truth of the world. I hope and pray that God will enlighten us both. God Bless!
Now I do BELIEVE that GOD came "in the flesh" as JESUS CHRIST (I Timothy 3:16) and GOD DIED for us (Acts 20:28) by "shedding HIS own blood for the Church" but we are talking GOD who operates in "GLORIES" as we do (II Corinthians 3:18)!
John 1:14 says GOD "was in the world and the world was made by HIM and the world knew HIM not" in the GLORY "AS OF" the only begotten of the Father!"
Where we differ is to deny Christ never was "in the world!" I John 2:22 says "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is the antichrist, that denieth both the Father and the Son."
Where do you get your belief? The Quran? Who give Muhammad the authority to "add or delete" from the WORD of GOD? Why do you think "a man" should be able to come in 500 years AFTER Bible is written and change the WORD of GOD? Why would you believe "a man" vs GOD?
That would be like me coming in with another translation of HIS WORD saying "GOD SENT ME" and changing HIS WORD! I would have to give in account in accordance with Revelation 22:18-19 ("Don't add or delete")!
How is following Muhammad working for you? Do you have the "connection" to GOD! Does Muhammad teach you to "WAIT" for the Spirit of GOD (aka Holy Spirit) to be "led" or do you have to do as our brother has stated on here "indepth study, prayer and contemplation?" I have nothing against "indepth study, prayer or contemplation" but ONLY in accordance with WORD! But when one asks "Why do you post so many Scriptures?" he is not of GOD!
Who told you Christ was not "in the world?" I can't get over this! You must explain via Scripture not Muhammad!
I'm a woman. Stop calling me brother. Unless that is some religious requirement on your part.
Oh! Sorry mam!
"There is neither male nor female in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28)!
I believe ma'am is the word you were searching for.
But don't quote Galatians 3:28 in an attempt to pretend you didn't miss speak.
Sorry! I can't see through screen! Don't mean to offend a "person" just their "twisted" belief!
I don't think you could offend my belief since my belief includes the fact that we choose to be offended, others don't offend unless we actively participate in it.
Whatever your belief is and you didn't OBEY HIS LAST COMMANDMENT, it's not of GOD! You're just "out there," THINKING you LOVE the LORD but haven't shown HIM you do by "keeping HIS commandments!"
GOD is saying "Sorry dear, but in order for you to love ME, you must first value MY opinion which is MY WORD" (aka "Keep MY commandments")!
Jesus said love God, love your neighbor as yourself and all law is fulfilled. I assume you don't get that.
Jesus said "If you love me keep my commandments" (John 14:15) without doing that "You DON'T LOVE GOD" nor your neighbor!" I assume you don't get THAT!
ANYONE can "say" I LOVE THE LORD, but do you? Do you "OBEY" HIS commandments?" I can "say" I love chocolate, but eating it gives proof! Have you given proof that you "LOVE THE LORD" by "OBEYING" HIS COMMANDMENTS?"
Norine, I don't get my belief in Quran I dont even know 1% of it. But every time I read a Hadith or Quran messages I can sense the truth in it. Just as I can sense truth when I read Scriptures. Just as I can sense truth sometimes in what you write and how you misunderstood them sometimes. I don't blindly believe on anything.
I am not denying that Jesus is the Christ. He is and there is no other else. But if you are going to tell me that It was Christ who came 2K yrs ago and shouted and boasted himself out in the streets to the point that the Romans and Pharisees could not anymore tolerate His clamor and arrogance and boldness and thus put Him into the cross, then I have to challenge your sense of perception of things. Even if Christ came, He would not do something like that, instead, He will execute everything discreetly, announcing the facts only to very few elect individual but keeping the world blind in general.
Now here is where the job of the apostles come. Again, another person, John, 2k yrs ago impersonated the true John who is going to come out today in our generation after Christ. That future John will fulfill the prophecies of His predecessor John. That Future John will testify who is the true Christ and together with the future Peter, will lead the future Church of Christ.
You are accusing me because you misunderstood that I am denying the Christ whom you thought already existed according to John. Verily I say unto you, Another John will come to testify of another Christ on the latter days. That is the true Christ whom I believe. And as His Father foretold and enacted the rejection of His Son, so will that Christ be rejected by this generation. And everything that was written and was not fulfilled by Christ 2k yrs ago, will be fulfilled in that person whom God said, "Thou art my Son. On this Day I have begotten thee." "To whomever you see the Spirit of God descending from Heaven, that is the messiah who is to come." "
His name will be called Immanuel which means God with us".
Everything the World has known is a lie and was allowed by God to happen because the World love lies more than the truth.
Again, it was God who sacrificed Himself 2k yrs ago to testify to the world that His Son is soon going to come. And everything He did, He did for the benefit of His Son and the World in general. He enacted and announced to the world the entitlement He is giving to His Son, not minding the embarrassment and suffering He is about to get as a consequence of his arrogant acts.
Only God Himself is qualified to do that. All because He is the one who masterminded everything to happen.
Norine, do you really know the Character of God?
Do you also know the Character of His Son?
Where are you getting this information from? I would like to know why you're so confused? 1st John/2nd John? No Son of God died? Where are you getting this?
I know "the character of GOD!" HIS character is to allow one to believe anything they want to be truth so they can be lost if they didn't "OBEY HIM!" ALL HE WANTS US TO DO IS "OBEY" HIS COMMANDMENTS!" GOD desires "no one is lost" but "COMMANDS" "OBEDIENCE!"
I know "the character of JESUS" which is "TO DO THE WILL OF HIS FATHER" who came (aka GOD) in the "GLORY" (GET THIS) "AS OF" the only begotten of the Father" (John 1:14)! JESUS is GOD who "manifested HIMSELF in the flesh (I Timothy 3:16) "AS OF" the only begotten of the Father" and gave us an example of how we are to be "OBEDIENT" to HIS "COMMANDS" or LOST!
Some might why would HE do this? Again, HE DEMANDS OBEDIENCE just as your earthly father or suffer consequences!
It might help of you looked at the top of your page, chose chronological and respond directly to the post you are responding to. As it stands it looks as of you are ranting incoherently
Not only do I not know how to create a forum but also do not know how to reply!
Sorry for the inconvenience of appearing to "rant incoherently!"
Are you reading your Bible? Have you read Scriptures given?
GOD wants us to "OBEY" and THEN and ONLY THEN can we have a "personal relationship" with HIM for HE will have a "Communication Line" for HIM to speak DIRECTLY to us!
I didn't "make this up!" IT IS WRITTEN!
Man has changed so much in the Bible; the "Communication Line" to HIM is man's only salvation!
I agree that humans change interpretation at will, to suit their personal philosophies. As you stated the commandment are to be written on our hearts and minds. That is why the two Christ named suffice. Those, written in your heart and at the forefront of your mind, help you understand the reason for the law, help you attempt to abide by the spirit of the law.
Loving God is very easy. You get to believe what you want and feel that God loves you back for it. But, love of fellow man is the hard part. The one commandment organized Christianity attempts to pervert to make things easier. The one many search the scriptures to find reason to ignore. The one that keeps them from abiding by the spirit of the law.
You "missed the Point" nor did you listen to HIS COMMANDMENT! HE "can't" COMMUNICATE with us UNLESS we have "obeyed" to acquire the "Communication Line" to HIM! No one has "anything" "written on their hearts and minds until the "Line" is acquired! You might "believe" HE speaks to you but GOD is not one to be "mocked!" You either OBEY, or you are "out there on your own" leading and guiding yourself into misinterpretation of Scripture, believing LIES man has "added or deleted," in other words, completely LOST!
HE doesn't love you back for not OBEYING! When you OBEY and acquire the "Communication Line" to HIM, "loving your neighbor" is "like unto" the GREATEST Commandment (Matthew 22:38) which comes AUTOMATICALLY (aka "like unto")!
The ONLY THING "that keeps us from abiding by the Spirit of the law" GOD "puts in our hearts and minds" is DISOBEDIENCE which leaves us without a "Communication Line" to GOD!
BDN: It was not "His Son" as we have a son, but HIMSELF "manifested in the "GLORY" JESUS CHRIST (LISTEN) "AS OF" the only begotten of the Father" (John 1:14)! GOD was walking on earth "AS OF" Jesus Christ, while in heaven and EVERY PLACE ELSE; simultaneously!
HE IS GOD who operates in "GLORIES;" simultaneously IF HE DESIRES!
When GOD speaks to one, HE speaks to one on his level! Man sees 'a son' as one with less authority! The SAME SPIRIT (aka GOD) "manifested HIMSELF in the flesh" (I Timothy 3:16) came into the world HE created (John 1:14) which a "portion" (aka Christ) of the SAME SPIRIT was exposed to a "sinful world" thereby (as man sees) made Christ (THE SAME SPIRIT) "less" (for lack of better word) or 'a son' (as man sees) than the SAME SPIRIT who was never exposed to sin! Therefore, HE "called HIMSELF" "SON" due to exposure to this "sinful world" but was GOD! Otherwise, John 1:14 LIED!
Now I know it's hard for those "taught" by Religion to wrap "their brain" around how GOD is EVERYTHING since they've been "taught" - The Trinity, but the Council of 325 AD LIED!
Not only did she (The Catholic Church) LIE concerning "The Trinity," but "added and deleted" MANY untruths in Bible! However, not to worry IF one has "OBEYED!"
They didn't remove the Power of the Holy Spirit which "leads and guides us into "ALL" truth" (John 14:26; 16:13) which includes "additions and deletions" as well!
I've experienced HIM (aka Holy Spirit/Jesus) "personally!"
This is not what I've learned from "a book" (Galatians 1:12), but from BELIEVING and HAVING FAITH in "HIM" not "a book!"
I've never claimed God speaks to me. I'm not insane or an idiot.
Ha, ha, ha, ha! lol You crack my sides! Satan got u and that's not funny!
ANYONE who doesn't believe what GOD SAID (1) I will "put my laws in your hearts and minds;" Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 8:10; 10:16; (2) I will send your help who will "lead and guide you into ALL truth;" John14:26;16:13; (3) I will use the Holy Spirit to "put my laws in your hearts and minds" Acts 1:2; (4) HE sent the Holy Spirit to HELP (Acts 2:2) us (talk to us) by "leading and guiding" AFTER "putting his laws in our hearts and minds" IS NOT "A BELIEVER!"
What part of that do you not believe? You don't believe "God speaks to us" as stated in Scripture? He did to Paul (Galatians 1:12); why not us since HE is "the same yesterday, today and forever" (Hebrews 13:8)?
You call the Power of GOD "insane or an idiot?"
Look what Religion has done to you!
1. GOD was walking on earth "AS OF" Jesus Christ, while in heaven and EVERY PLACE ELSE; simultaneously!
- This claim is both 1, very hard to prove and comprehend for an ordinary man and 2, doesn't sounds logical and is very fictitious. This is what one gets from watching too many sci fi movies.
2. which a "portion" (aka Christ) of the SAME SPIRIT was exposed to a "sinful world" thereby (as man sees) made Christ (THE SAME SPIRIT) "less" (for lack of better word) or 'a son' (as man sees) than the SAME SPIRIT who was never exposed to sin! Therefore, HE "called HIMSELF" "SON" due to exposure to this "sinful world" but was GOD! Otherwise, John 1:14 LIED!
- This is witchcraft and sorcery at its finest. Where did you get the notion that if you exposed a spirit to a sinful world it will become less? As far as my wisdom is concerned, If you exposed a Spirit, specially if it comes from God, then it is supposed to light the entire room and not pollute the spirit itself. Why? Is God so vulnerable all this time that if He exposes Himself to the sinful World He will be corrupted?
I am very sorry for the arrogance. That is how I speak sometimes. God Bless!
Witchcraft? What are you talking about?
Man, I'm 66 years old and have more days behind than in front! Do you think I who know I will soon meet my Maker have time for such NONSENSE?
I TOLD YOU! GOD "revealed" this to me! It is according to Scripture! Go get your Bible!
John 1:14 "...HE was in the world (JESUS CHRIST) and the world was made by HIM (GOD)..."
Isaiah 6:3; Habakkuk 2:14 "HIS "GLORY" fills the heavens and earth."
Romans 8:3-4 HE "came as sinful flesh!"
I Peter 2:22 "HE committed no sin, and no deceit was found in HIS mouth."
II Corinthians 5:21-22 "HE who knew no sin was counted AS SIN (in this world in the flesh) in order that we might become the righteousness of God."
Hebrews 4 "We have a high priest who was tempted in every point like we are, yet without sin!"
I didn't say "If you expose GOD'S SPIRIT to a sinful world it becomes less" I said "HE related to "man" as a father and son so they could "relate" to the significance of HIS SPIRIT coming into a sinful world" because man thinks of a father (more) and a son (less)! The SAME SPIRIT in heaven who was never exposed to a "sinful world" (aka THE FATHER) and the SAME SPIRIT who came into a "sinful world" yet DID NO SIN (aka THE SON)! Man can relate to a father and son and that's how GOD related to us as THE FATHER and THE SON yet SAME SPIRIT (aka GOD)!
Scripture doesn't say "HE WAS CORRUPTED" - IT SAYS "HE DID NO SIN!"
Go get your Bible! READ I Corinthians Chapter 12! It shows the operation of GOD in "GLORIES" (v12) "...AND SO IS CHRIST!"
GOD is "NOT VULNERABLE!" HE has SO MANY "GLORIES" man can't comprehend! HE "fills the heavens and earth" with ALL of HIS "GLORIES!"
How do you think HE can be in as MANY of us who BELIEVE? Look at ALL of those "GLORIES" alone! MOST are not in the right doctrine, but HE'S LEADING them to where their hearts will allow! If one closes his heart, GOD will remain stagnant! But if we TRULY "SEEK" HIM with a "pure heart," HE will "lead and guide us into "ALL" truth!"
An OPEN HEART! Because if we don't "Search the Scriptures to see if what's presented to you is true" (Acts 17:11) one might MISS HIM!
No "arrogance" taken! When TRUTH is presented; it's hard to move from a belief!
I'm sorry If I have misinterpreted your interpretation Ma'am. However, I still don't see the idea of God splitting Himself into two, with one playing the role of the Father and the other a Son at the same time, a valid or a legitimate argument.
I've watched 2 entities merging as one and that was called Dragon Ball Z or Naruto multiplying Himself but those are just fictitious stories.
If we are going to make a sense out of the Omnipresence that is in God, then I believe it means God Has poured His Spirit or Law or Way of Life unto all creation such that no matter where you go, or look, you will always see the glory of His creative power.
For example, starting from the tiniest atom to the biggest galaxies, you will see various objects circling around a denser object that is located at the center. This pictures the entire humanity clinging solely unto Christ for deliverance.
Another is the seed which needs to die first by the heat of the sun before it could live once again and grow into a tree. This pictures Christ dying out of intense persecution but living again afterwards to establish a Kingdom.
And many many more.
Everywhere you look at, you will always see that God Has actually put in all things His general plan of salvation for mankind.
But not necessarily He is present everywhere even there peeping you in the bathroom. Where is your privacy then? Why did He created all the Host of the Angels then If He could manage everything by Himself? What would He need Humans for then?
Norine, the primary characteristic of God, aside from His overflowing Love, is to take accountability for His own actions. He died on the cross because He is the culprit of everything. He will never pass the burden to anybody, much more so, His Son!?
Unfortunately, He is able to raise a child as descent as Him and after His Son witnessed the sincerity of His Father and how His Father is suffering so much for want of a spiritually descent Kingdom, His Son offered help if only that could ease the burden of His Father. The Father did not force His Son or demanded compliance from Him out of authority. It is the nature of God to lead by example and not demand. He forced no one to obey but if you can pierce right through His Heart and Soul, you will learn that everything that is written inside it is only for the Good of others, not His!
What Creator would come and not announce to His creation that: I came, so please receive me? Instead, He abandoned His own Glory and talked to the World only about His Son, How His Son is going to suffer in this generation, How He will be rejected and How His Son is going to rise in Power with His Holy Angels.
He intentionally disregarded the pain of that thorns in His head and worried only about His Son until the hour of His Death! He lived and died in this world and nobody noticed that it was Him, the Creator of all things!
Instead, the whole world rejoiced that somebody like Him took the damnation in our stead. Do you realized how evil Humanity is?
And then as if everything is still not enough. The Devil came, twisted the story and in the end, it is the Father who appeared Evil in the site of Men for believing that the Father intentionally sacrificed His Son to appease His angry spirit against the disobedient Humanity.
No! from the very beginning, it was Satan who is so fond of killing the Children for sacrifice. That is a Satanic ritual observed in so many Pagan Religions. The Devil perverted the image of God and if you are a Christian who only spouts nonsense day in day out, then you are most likely to fall into this trap.
But in all of this grave assault, did God came, avenge His honor and massacre everyone out of burst of anger? For thousands of years He did not. Because that is the kind of person He is. A descent one.
But verily I say unto you that on the last days, His Son will come having great wrath, and avenge His Father.
I sincerely hope that I have helped you understand a bit about God's Character based on my own very limited capacity.
Many Thanks and God Bless!
BDN: We're talking THE CREATOR who can "split HIMSELF" into each of us so why not into Father, Son, Peter, Paul and ANYONE or ANYTHING else; IF HE DESIRES; simultaneously if HE LIKES! DON'T "LIMIT" GOD! HE "fills the heavens and earth!"
Yes, HE'S with us when we "go to the bathroom" and every place else. David SAID in Psalms 139:1;7-10 "O LORD, thou hast searched me, and know me. Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off. (v7) Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? (v8) If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. (9) If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost part of the sea; (v10) Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me."
READ THE REST!
No matter where we go; HE IS THERE!
Stop "thinking" GOD is going to "establish a kingdom" when HE told us "the kingdom of GOD is within you" (Luke 17:21) but (v25) FIRST HE [JESUS] must suffer..." Why would HE ask us to "SEEK YE FIRST the kingdom of GOD..." (Matthew 6:33) if IT wasn't available? You think HE would tell us to "SEEK" Something that wasn't ALREADY there? Why would your earthly father have you looking for something that isn't already there; then how much more would our Heavenly Father NOT ask us to "SEEK" Something that wasn't ALREADY there?
I don't know why you think GOD is NOT CAPABLE of operating in WHATEVER "GLORY" HE WISHES; simultaneously if HE DESIRES! You've placed "LIMITS" on the CREATOR!
HE created angles and humans to "PRAISE HIM!" HE is GOD and LOVES PRAISE! HE told us "If we don't praise HIM; HE'LL make the rocks praise HIM" (Luke 19:40) that's how much HE LOVES PRAISE! HE doesn't need us, we need HIM!
Not only can we see HIS GLORIES with the natural eye, but IF we BELIEVE, OBEY and HAVE FAITH in what HE HAS SAID, HE will manifest HIMSELF unto us and we will "Change into HIS likeness" (aka "from glory to glory") as stated in II Corinthians 3:18! If we don't BELIEVE, HIS SPIRIT lies dormant in us "WAITING" for us to "SEEK HIS FACE" (II Chronicles 7:14) because "HIS HAND IS STILL STRETCHED OUT" (throughout the book of Isaiah)!
Norine, you totally misunderstood everything. The words of God are not literal but spiritual. Remember how I told you how there is a different level of access to the Words of God? These things you are saying are not literal. You need a teacher to interpret them for you. One who is anointed by God Himself. Because if God is talking only Literal, then the following verses below already means the end of solar system or perhaps our galaxy as we knew it. - God Bless!
 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
The prerequisite of Establishment of Kingdom is the suffering of Christ as you have said it. But I tell you, that Kingdom, whether inside or outside you, cannot be obtained until Christ came and finished His job. That is what His Father said 2000 yrs ago. And that is why I cannot see anybody who resembles even a little of Christ's Holy Character in this world. All who claims they have it are most likely deceived except for the very few chosen servants of God who will do specific job for Him. Yet even they are most likely sinners who were only forced to do it because they could not withstand the power of God.
What makes us "the select few" that have been "chosen by GOD?" GOD is available to ALL if they "OBEY!" John 7:37-38 says "...If ANY MAN thirst, let him COME unto me, and drink. (v38) He that BELIEVETH on me, AS THE SCRIPTURE HATH SAID ("OBEY"), out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."
GOD is not for "a select few" but ALL!
Why would JESUS "command" us to "SEEK" ye FIRST the kingdom of GOD..." (Matthew 6:33) if HE is no where to be found? Let's start right here! I need your explanation from Scripture as to why you think HE would send us on "a wild goose chase?"
Christ has not yet arrived. It was the Father saying all that to give spiritual instruction to His Son as to what He is going to speak to His Church on the latter days. All of that are true, specially the Word of God, just not happening yet. If you believe Christ's manifestation is already happening in you, and have already acquired the leased line to God, then why are you not converting even a single soul in the internet? Have you? Is Christ Kingdom within you that weak? It's because everything that happened before were just a play for very distinct and clandestine purposes only the Father knows. Now all prophets that have appeared after the incident in the Calvary can still be categorized as the Old Testament prophets specifically called by God for a purpose. We are not yet on the New Testament. It is those sitting in powers who perpetrated the lies that we already are in NT for their own agenda. That is the reason for too many protestants and atheists and everything. Itis only upon the arrival of Christ on these latter days shall all your arguments be brought into life and the one that is going to do that is Christ, not you. So just as you've been saying to all of us, Wait wait wait! Do not take matters all by yourself because everybody who did that since Christ, all failed! The best you can do is to refine your Character the best way you can so that when the Holy Spirit, our helper comes, you will not be found wanting. To judge is not our Job, but Christ who will come very soon. Wait... And He will judge the whole world. Do not be too in a hurry for that. - God Bless!
You have not given ONE Scripture as to why you feel Christ has not come! You don't believe Bible? None of IT? YES; I agree, man has "added and deleted," but if you don't BELIEVE GOD came (I Timothy 3:16) "AS OF" his Son, Jesus Christ" (John 1:14) you DEFY SCRIPTURE! I John 5:20 says "And we know that the Son of GOD is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true GOD, and eternal life."
I need to know how you came to the conclusion that Christ has NOT come?
All the prophecies pertaining to Christ is for the latter days not midway the Human civilization. God Himself came down on the 4th millennium to prophesy for His Son. I am reserving this info for my new hub but for your sake I will tell you some in advance.
God said in the Bible, I am God and there is no other. I have created the end from the beginning. Where is the beginning? Of course the Book of Genesis which literally means beginning. He is saying that He already predetermined the end and it is there written in the Book of Genesis. The creation story of God in the first chapter of genesis is not literal but an outline of how He is going to create the World in 6 days (6000 years) and on the beginning of 7th day (7th millennium) He created Adam and then He rested.
God creating Adam at the end of 6th Day spiritually means that God is going to begot the Spiritual Adam (Jesus Christ) at the beginning of the 7th Millennium which is during our time today.
The Physical Adam fell from the devices of Satan and sin entered through Him but the the Spiritual Adam who is going to come on the last days is going to overcome the wiles of the Devil and will redeem mankind, and overthrow Satan as in literally, then God can finally rest.
We are all the animals in the garden of Eden whom Adam is naming one by one. And whatever name He gives us, that is our name. That means the lessons and reproof Christ is going to do for the last generation is final and irrevocable. Christ is someone who knew everything, to whom God put everything under His feet, and His ability to see through things is amazing, next to God, because He is His Son. Then Christ will establish His Church by His own Blood just as Eve was taken from one of Adam's ribs by God.
After that, all your arguments which the NT Bible pertaining to the Apostles and Christ, which never actually happened in our generation, will now happen for real into the Church of Christ. And it will not take 2000 more years to execute all of it! It will happen in a matter of 7 years, give or take.
 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Yes, after Christ Church, it will only take a little season not 2000 years before He avenge the death of His Saints.
There are many evidences Norine, but I cannot give you all here.
By your analogy, the disciples never were! Jesus never walked the earth! We are animals? Christ never died because HE didn’t come. There is no “second coming” because there was no “first coming!” There will only be “one coming” and that’s during the 7th millennium! Do I understand you correctly?
 Where did “the souls of them that were slain for the word of God” come from?
 If we are “animals,” why are “the souls” asking the Lord to “judge and avenge their blood on us that dwell on the earth?”
 Why are those “souls” told to “rest for a little season, until their fellow servants (us) and their brethren (us), that should be killed as they were (us), should be fulfilled?”
If we are “animals,” why do we have “souls” like those in verse 9 because God called us “fellow servants and brethren?”
I don’t find any Scripture which says “animals” have a “soul!” I Corinthians 15:38-40 says “But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory if the terrestrial is another.”
Therefore, how can you say; “We are animals” when God said, “We differ?” You don’t believe any of the Bible? You don’t believe the New Testament? I see you believe Revelation! Why not the rest?
Those disciples of God who walked the Earth were probably the 24 elders sitting around the Throne of God with thrones of their own in the Revelation, I am still not yet 100% sure since I am still studying the Bible much further. I need to re-verify and re-examine further, I will give the info once I prove it to myself.
I never intended to say that we Humans are literally animals. Humans beside Christ is like animals beside Adam in terms of spiritual capacity. That is how it stacks. That is how God hid the true gospel, from the World and from Satan who wanted to destroy it, for disclosure only on the last days.
God made the Words both literal and spiritual. The literal meaning is the one subject for misinterpretation of the Devil but the Spiritual meaning whom Satan cannot comprehend will be preserved unto the last Days. "This Gospel of the truth will be preached into the world as a witness to all nations then the end will come."
Jesus will come first on the last days to fulfill some prophecies then He will initially call His Church. After that, He will die, but not literal death but spiritual death, therefore, He will leave the Church to test the faithfulness of His followers. then He will come again like a thief in the night to get His faithful servants and leave the unfaithful. This is the second coming of Christ. And He will fulfill the rest of prophecies. This will happen only in a matter of a few years not 2000 years.
for the Revelation chapter 6, verses 9 - 11, I merely quoted it wholly/intact from the Bible because I do not want to be punished by God by inserting my own words between His Words. It is not righteous for anyone to dissect God's Word and insert his own words in between. If you will quote God's Word, do not add or remove any because it will totally change the meaning of the message. God's Word can stand by itself.
Now may I ask if you are asking me to further explain the verses 9 to 11 or are you questioning the Authority of God who declared those Words? Those Words are not mine but God's, I merely borrowed them. - God Bless!
You are CONFUSED!
If you have to "prove it to yourself," you're using "YOUR" INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE, and that's EVIL!
That's exactly why there are so MANY different "religions" and "denominations" in the world TODAY!
If you "add or delete" ANYTHING from the WORD of GOD; you will stand before the judgment seat of Christ and give in account for all the "LIES" that "YOU" came up with and that isn't something to play with!
There is nothing "HIDDEN" in Scripture! When one has GOD "putting his laws in their heart and mind" do you think Something is "HIDDEN?" The Prophet Jeremiah prophesied this in Jeremiah 31:33! You don't believe in the Prophets either? You are TOTALLY LOST!
You don't believe on CHRIST (HE hasn't come)!
You don't believe the PROPHETS (Hidden Truth)!
You don't believe the Apostles (Galatians 1:6-9)!
You don't believe HIS WORD (Matthew 7:13)?
You don't believe in the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah (We are not under the New Testament)!
You don't believe we are to JUDGE (I Peter 4:17)!
YOU DON'T BELIEVE!
No wonder God said you cannot pour new wine into an old wine skin. My fault, I'm sorry. -God Bless.
GOD SAID you cannot pour new wine into old skins because you can't mix OLD TESTAMENT "LAW" into NEW TESTAMENT "GRACE!"
You don't BELIEVE Christ came and DIED; therefore, you don't BELIEVE in NEW TESTAMENT "GRACE!" Galatians 2:21 says "I do not FRUSTRATE the GRACE of GOD...[as you are doing]...or Christ DIED IN VAIN!"
Look what you are doing: NAILING HIS BACK TO THE CROSS!
LORD - HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL!
Let me tell you something about GOD: HE IS A "HEART" GOD!
If HE SEES you are "trying" to serve HIM with a "PURE HEART," and man has added or deleted from HIS WORD, do you really think HE is not going to show you through the Spirit of Discernment? Do you have such "little faith" in GOD?
He has shown me that you are trying to justify OLD TESTAMENT LAW by saying "Christ hasn't come therefore we are not under NEW TESTAMENT!" However, you are unable to explain the disciples and their walk with Christ on earth? Then you say "YOU have to figure it out?" What kind of EVIL is that? ONLY GOD "figures it out!"
I have NEVER told anyone, anything that IS NOT WRITTEN! You go AGAINST what IS WRITTEN rewriting HIS WORD; creating a whole new Bible! ONLY Satan would do something like that!
All I've ever said is GOD IS "ONE" SPIRIT (I Corinthians 12) who "manifested HIMSELF in the flesh" (II Timothy 3:16) "AS OF" the only begotten Son of the Father" (John 1:14) which is IN SCRIPTURE and that we are CURRENTLY under the NEW TESTAMENT (Book of Hebrews) because CHRIST DIED and gave us the "GIFT" of "GRACE" whereby we can be saved (Ephesians 2:8-9)!
ALL OF WHAT "I BELIEVE" is in SCRIPTURE! IT IS WRITTEN!
Let me tell you why I KNOW you need the "Communication Line" to GOD versus believing "the letter" (II Corinthians 3:6)!
John 5:42 "I know you have not the love of GOD in you!" Because if you did you would BELIEVE and "keep HIS commandments" (John14:15)! As I said when you "keep HIS commandments" (what IS WRITTEN) and man has "tampered" with IT; HE "will never leave you or forsake you" (Hebrews 13:5) and will "reveal" TRUTH unto you (John 14:26)!
Therefore, our job is to BELIEVE what IS WRITTEN (FAITH) although we "APPEAR" IGNORANT to man! When HE "sees the heart" HE WILL let you know something is WRONG!
John 5:38 "And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not."
Didn't HE SAY HE would "lead and guide us into "ALL" truth" (John 14:26)? You DON'T BELIEVE HE CAME so how do you BELIEVE HE is going to do as the Scriptures are WRITTEN and send HELP? Why would a Father leave us "defenseless" in Satan's kingdom?
You were right in saying what GOD SAID "You cannot pour new wine into an old wine skin!" You BELIEVE that but look at the context in which JESUS SAID IT! "John's disciples wanted to know why they and the Pharisees had to fast often but JESUS' disciples didn't! JESUS told them "BECAUSE I (aka the HOLY SPIRIT) am with them" (Matthew 9:14-17) then gave the parable of "new wine (NEW TESTAMENT; HOLY SPIRIT aka GRACE) and old wine" (OLD TESTAMENT; LAW; aka WORKS)! Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by GRACE are ye saved THROUGH FAITH; and NOT OF YOURSELVES (WORKS), it is the "GIFT" of GOD (aka HOLY SPIRIT): Not of "WORKS" lest any man should boast."
So I guess all of these locations with Churches of GOD didn't exist either? WOW!
Don't let Satan "DECEIVE" you! IF IT IS NOT WRITTEN - YOU LIE ON GOD! If man has rewritten, GOD will "lead and guide you into "ALL" truth IF you have "WAITED" for the HELP HE SENT on the Day of Pentecost!
You said you acquired the communication line to God. I guess you are an expert of Communication Systems. Do you know that all copyrights belong to God?
"There is no wisdom, knowledge and understanding against the Lord"
Man only imitated the technology of God and that include how communication systems works like the internet. If you can explain to me how the internet works and how they imitated that technology from God, I might as well believe you are able to tap into a much more complicated model of communication system between Man and God.
And please do not answer me by dissecting the words of John, or Mark or Luke or one of the Disciples who were totally ignorant of the knowledge that are exclusive only for the people of the latter days which includes you!
To tell you the truth, I can grasp their message when directly reading it from the Bible but when you start interpreting them, I really struggle very hard to make a sense out of it. I have to apologize for my lack of ability.
Sorry for being so arrogant again. I do not mean to offend. -God Bless...
Since you don't believe in "The Gospels" (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John which are under the OLD TESTAMENT = LAW) do you believe in the Prophets?
GOD SPOKE through the Prophets Ezekiel and Jeremiah saying the SAME THING: There would be a NEW COVENANT "in this world" not in the new heaven and earth that HE will establish!
Ezekiel Chapter 11 and Ezekiel Chapter 36! Then READ Jeremiah Chapter 31 and Hebrews Chapter 8 and 10! Did these Prophets LIE? Did they not speak of A NEW COVENANT "in this world?" Notice what the NEW COVENANT does: The SPIRIT of the LORD will speak "DIRECTLY" to us (Jeremiah 31:34; Hebrews 8:11) and "We will not have to teach our brothers or neighbors ANYTHING for HE will "put his laws in our hearts and minds" DIRECTLY (aka "Communication Line")!
Scripture says "Where there are two are three "witnesses" (Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Hebrews) the WORD IS ESTABLISHED" in Deuteronomy 19:15, Matthew 18:16 and II Corinthians 13:1!
You stated "The Prophets were "chosen" by GOD! Did they not speak? Did they speak of the NEW COVENANT "in this world" wherein HE would "put HIS laws in our hearts and minds?" How can you deny the Prophets? How can you say these are things to come when "Christ comes?"
CHRIST CAME! CHRIST DIED! CHRIST SENT "THE PROMISE" (Acts 2:2) spoken of in John 14:26; 16:13 and WITHOUT one "OBEYING" HIS ["LAST"] COMMANDMENT to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4); they have NO "Communication Line" to HIM for HIM to "put HIS laws in our hearts and minds" AND they DO NOT LOVE HIM (John 14:15) because they HAVE NOT "kept HIS "commandments (John 14:15)!
I believe the Gospels and the prophets, just not the way you believe them. You interpret them literally and save the trouble of a lot of work. I believe the meaning to be Spiritual and unsearchable, unless you work very hard to search for them. I believe the mystery of God is a lot more than anyone ever imagined.
The trouble with some people is if someone is not in congruence with their belief, they accuse them of unbelief. Yet they themselves will save the trouble of facing the mirror and reflect on their own belief to prove whether it is indeed the truth or not.
They do not prove all things in Christ , but follow their own blind belief. They are so desperate of their own salvation to the point that all their actions are only in an effort to please their creator because if He gets mad, He might kicked them into the hell.
Yet Christ Himself said He who seeks His life will lose it, but he who loses His life for my names sake will find it. The spirit of Christ is not one in an effort to save oneself but one which is willing to be ridiculed and give up his own life in exchange of many.
Tell me, do you have that passion in you? If not, then face the mirror. You might be clinging into a false hope that might actually not happen.
If GOD spoke through "The Prophets," telling us of THE NEW COVENANT "in this world," why would you not believe? Why would they LIE when saying "No one would have to teach another" (Jeremiah 31:34)? Why did JESUS speak through the "chosen apostles" via the HOLY SPIRIT (Acts 1:2) and doesn't operate the SAME TODAY (Hebrews 13:8)? Why do you think JESUS SAID "If you love me keep my commands" (John 14:15)? Why do you think HIS "LAST" commandment was for us to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for the HELP "Promised" in John 14:26; 16:13?
If you don't know let me tell you: SO HE CAN SPEAK TO US "DIRECTLY" as HE PROMISED HE WOULD under THE NEW COVENANT and we would "not have to teach our brother or neighbor" ANYTHING ANYMORE (Jeremiah 31:34)! You think this is "literal?" You think operation of THE SPIRIT is "literal?"
John 5:22 "The Father judges no one" but the Son (SAME SPIRIT) who has felt and experienced what we do JUDGES (Hebrews 4:15)!
Paul was "chosen" by JESUS (Acts 9:15) to "continue HIS mission" (II Corinthians 5:20) under the NEW COVENANT of "GRACE" and spoke through the Apostle Paul as HE did "The Prophets!" Paul said "If any one preach any other gospel than what he preached; they are ACCURSED" (Galatians 1:6-9)!
Where does that leave MOST?
Norine, the Kingdom of God is for the babies, those just weaned from milk. I think I already parted enough information for them. I thank God for giving you faith and tenacity. Thank you also for your cooperation. You will soon have your reward when the Son of Man comes in His Power and Glory. God Bless!
See how "backwards" you are? The Kingdom of GOD is GOD (aka HOLY SPIRIT/JESUS) who resides in us IF we've "WAITED!" You call HIM "a baby?" See how "backwards" you are?
The Kingdom of GOD is not "a place" BUT the SPIRIT of GOD (aka HOLY SPIRIT)! Why did JESUS tell us to "SEEK [HIM] "FIRST"...(Matthew 6:33)? Why did JESUS say "The kingdom of GOD is within you..."(Luke 17:21)? Is "a place" in you? BUT HE went on to say in Verse 25 "BUT "FIRST" must HE (*I*) suffer many things, and be rejected of THIS generation." Didn't HE "suffer many things" (the Cross) and wasn't HE "rejected of THIS generation?"
You mean you can say "The Kingdom of God is for the babies, those just weaned from milk" and that the *you* surpass the SPIRIT of GOD? What kind of "blasphemy" is that? Do you know GOD "hears" and "sees" EVERYTHING you say and do?
"Parted enough information for whom?" ANYONE who believes Christ has not come DENIES the CHRIST (Son of GOD) and is the "Anti-Christ" (I John 2:22)!
I will "soon have my reward with the Son of Man comes in His Power and Glory" at his "SECOND COMING!"
Let me tell ALL what GOD told me to tell: "For it had been better for them not to have know the way of righteousness, than, after they have know it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them" (I Peter 2:21)!
The TIME IS NIGH (Revelation 9:20)! I agree; It's sooner than we "think" (II Peter 3:10)!
READ II Peter Chapter 3!
You don't believe there were apostles who walked the earth with Christ but Ephesians 2:18-22 says "For through HIM (JESUS CHRIST aka HOLY SPIRIT) we both have access by ONE SPIRIT unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God (See? We're in the Kingdom of GOD when we've "WAITED!"); And are built upon the FOUNDATION of the APOSTLES and PROPHETS, JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF BEING "THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of GOD through the SPIRIT!"
Revelation 21:14 says "And the wall of t he city had TWELVE FOUNDATIONS, and in them the names of the TWELVE APOSTLES of the LAMB!" Why then are we not building upon THAT Foundation as the disciples did on the Day of Pentecost? Acts 2:42 says "And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship..." Why? Because the apostles "continued in JESUS' Stead" (II Corinthians 5:20) building upon THE FOUNDATION whereas JESUS CHRIST is the CHIEF CORNER STONE!"
Norine, my message is not for you but for the atheists. I merely used you. You are already saved. The well do not have a need of a doctor but the sick.
Behold I will tell you again another mystery. The Spiritual Woman in the Kingdom of God are people of Religious affiliation which includes you. The Woman whom the Bible says you are lucky if submissive and given by God but how unfortunate if very noisy like an empty can which has nothing inside.
Meanwhile, the head of the Woman is the Man. The Spiritual Man in the Kingdom of Christ were the ones I am referring as babies just weaned from milk, mostly atheists. Here is where the Church of Christ will mostly come from because they are virgins, not defiled by Women.
 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
I was commanded by God to call them to repentance in preparation for the coming of Christ. I hate to say this because I do not want to look like an idiot, like what live_to_learn said, but I guess you're not the only one here who leased a line from God.
Soon, all these atheists who will respond at this calling will rule over Religious people like you. I guess you will now have reasons to prove something and not merely rely everything upon Christ. Prove me wrong once these atheists start appearing one by one.
"The Spiritual Man in the Kingdom of Christ were the ones I am referring as babies just weaned from milk, mostly atheists."
An "unbeliever" (aka Atheist) is NOT "in the kingdom of Christ!" Have they "SOUGHT" HIM? Did HE not say "SEEK ye FIRST the kingdom of GOD...(Matthew 6:33)? How did they get in IF they have not "SOUGHT?" They can NOT be "babes in Christ" when they've NEVER BELIEVED or SOUGHT! They have NEVER been "on milk" so how could they be "weaned?"
There are too many errors in your belief! Errors that go AGAINST SCRIPTURE!
I am NOT "Religiously affiliated" as you state! The Bible was used as my SCHOOLMASTER to bring me "UNTO" CHRIST! Once "IN" CHRIST or once the "Communication Line" (aka HOLY SPIRIT) was acquired, HE SPEAKS TO YOU "DIRECTLY" (Jeremiah 31:34) but NEVER "contradicts" HIS WORD! Consequently, when you "contradict" what is written, I have doubt! The SPIRIT of GOD recognizes another one who is "IN" CHRIST! JESUS SAID "I know my sheep and they hear my voice" (John 10:27) and when we have the SPIRIT of CHRIST "we know!"
I want you to read ALL of I John Chapter 4! Verse 6 says "We are of GOD: he that knoweth GOD heareth us; he that is not of GOD heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error."
I see you have "a desire" to know the LORD but you MUST "BELIEVE" HIS WORD (ALL OF IT) and "BELIEVE" HE has the POWER to "lead and guide you into ALL truth!" You can't try to change ANY of what HE HAS SAID! If you believe something in the Bible, MAKE SURE you can find "Witness Scriptures" (Deuteronomy 19:15; Matthew 18:16; II Corinthians 13:1) to CONFIRM your belief to make SURE "the word is established!"
After acquiring the "Communication Line," BELIEVE on the WORD as IT IS WRITTEN and if there has been any tampering, HE WILL TELL YOU for HE DOES "lead and guide into ALL truth!"
A "leased line from GOD" expires! Once "IN" CHRIST, HE SAID HE "will NEVER leave us or forsake us" (Deuteronomy 31:6)! You continue to say things that are AGAINST SCRIPTURE but want me to recognize you as being "IN CHRIST!"
BELIEVE on HIS WORD is the FIRST STEP! Whether you "think" man has "tampered" with IT or NOT! That's what happens when one "STUDIES" outside the WORD of GOD! When one reads this man's opinion, and that man's opinion it brings "DOUBT" toward HIS WORD! If you BELIEVE THE CREATOR is THE CREATOR and has POWER above ALL POWER, does NOT LIE, and "is not slow in keeping HIS PROMISES" (II Peter 3:9), stand on that (FAITH) and BELIEVE! Don't try to "go outside" and listen to "man's opinions" because each man has a different "opinion" BUT GOD has ONE MIND with ONE (for lack of a better word) "OPINION!"
If you don't "learn to merely rely everything upon Christ," you will NEVER KNOW HIM! HE wants us to TOTALLY rely on HIM and what HE HAS SAID IN HIS WORD!
GOD SAID "And they ALL shall know me from the least of them to the greatest" (Jeremiah 31:34) but whether they BELIEVE is another issue! Therefore, "Atheist" are going to hear the WORD of GOD but will they "hear" with their spiritual "ears?"
It's up to us! How strong our FAITH is in GOD and as you know "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD" (Romans 10:17)! Therefore, PLEASE "STUDY" (II Timothy 2:15) HIS WORD and learn not to "contradict" what HE HAS WRITTEN; don't go outside listening to "man's opinions" (Colossians 2:18), but rely TOTALLY on what HE HAS SAID and HAVE FAITH that HE WILL DO WHAT HE SAID HE WILL DO!
Have you not read Norine, God commanded me. What further earthly agencies do I need to use against His voice? The Bible is merely a footstool of God. You want me to use the Bible to argue with Him? What I cannot understand is why He called you to simply re-echo the Words He already wrote gazillions of years ago. He could have just asked anyone to buy one in the Bookstore and read it silently in their room. - God Bless!
He wants everyone "to by one in the Bookstore and read it silently in their room" for IT is "the inspired WORD of GOD" (II Timothy 3:16) and without knowing IT; you won't know HIM! One can "buy one and read IT," BUT without BELIEVING IT; you will NEVER be "connected" to HIM!
I don't know who "called" you, but I hope you find what you're looking for on your journey!
Truly, you are a faithful servant of God. I have to apologize to you seven folds for my arrogance. -God Bless!
You must "STUDY" (II Timothy 2:15) to show GOD you have a desire to KNOW HIM; HIS Character; HIS Promises; HIS Commandments!
You must "BELIEVE" (Hebrews 3:19) what IS WRITTEN although "man" will tell told you HIS WORD is NOT TRUE!
You must "HAVE FAITH" (Hebrews 11) in what HE HAS SAID although IT seems totally impossible to your "natural" being!
You must "OBEY" HIS commandments (John 14:15) to show HIM you LOVE HIM!
If one has been "called" by GOD, the FIRST THING they want to do is learn what HE likes and dislikes (as in a marriage) and the ONLY WAY you can learn is to "STUDY" HIS WORD!
Thank you Norine. I see now why God would want you to stubbornly warn me of studying the word of God. That's because all this time, I'm trying to ran away and even if I have the chance to, indeed, I will. I think I'll have to study even more from now on. Wish me good luck! -God Bless!
It's not "luck" that we need "but" FAITH in what IS WRITTEN in HIS WORD!
We ALL try to "run away...if we have the chance to!" However, if we LOVE THE LORD, we will "STUDY" (II Timothy 2:15) to learn HIS likes and dislikes!
Matthew 26:41 says "...the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak!"
I pray that the "eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who BELIEVE, according to the Working of HIS Mighty Power" (Ephesians 1:18-19)!
BDN: Do Muslims plan to help GOD in "The wrath of the Lamb?"
Muslims only follow what is written in their Holy Book. When you say wrath of Lamb to them, they won't have any idea what your saying. It's up for you to consolidate all the Spirits of God and weave them all together if you have the gift.
I don't go "outside" of GOD'S WORD for truth like MOST do! That's why you're so confused! Reading this book, that book and not BELIEVING what IS WRITTEN in HIS WORD!
Where are you getting this information from?
Norine, you don't go outside "what you believe is the Word of God" because you have no idea what is outside of "what you believe is the Word of God". They say old dogs never learn new tricks.
Have you heard the song The Colors of the Wind?
What do you think when Isaiah said "here a little, there a little"? Is he saying a little of everything in the Bible only? Or a little of everything in the entire Universe whom God Himself created?
Do you not realize we could not even communicate today if all people out there only restricted themselves in the Bible and not took the courage to explore the unknown and thus discover today the Communications Systems you and I are both using now to interact?
Too "unspiritual" for me! BELIEVING means "in HIS WORD" not "opinions of men!" If you BELIEVE then maybe you would see some action from GOD and not be like "proclaimed" Christians asking "Why can't you see the actions of GOD in them," Why so many disagreements," Why can't they convince anyone of TRUTH," etc. They have the SAME attitude as you do! Let's research everything to find "truth" when GOD said "If they speak (or research) not according to THIS WORD, there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20)!
It seems everyone is "smarter than GOD!"
This "Communication System" ("I create evil and good") is being used by GOD to fulfill Scripture (Matthew 24:14) which is the only "good" it serves! For every question on this "system" there is an answer and an answer which opposes it! Man decides which of the two answers he will choose. GOD doesn't contradict HIMSELF as this "Communication System" does! HE has ONE MIND which doesn't LIE! Man finds an answer to "fit his desires!"
Yes Isaiah is saying a "little of everything in the Bible" or he would not have said "If they speak not according to this word there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20)!
Go "outside" and remain "confused as MOST who THINK they are "smarter than GOD!"
As I have said before Norine, I never doubted your faith. Truly your tenacity comes from God. In fact, I like how you are disseminating the Word of God as it is written in the Scriptures. But do not expect everyone to believe and have faith in you. None of the Apostles before achieved that. No one, not even Christ Himself. I do not expect anything more from you than what God actually gave you. But keep on doing it. I can see purpose in it. - God Bless!
As I've stated before, In my dream GOD showed me that "trees" (aka people) would remain "rooted and grounded" in their belief, but HE would "pop" them midway their trunk (Daniel 7:14)!
HE told me to "be not discouraged" (Joshua 1:19) just "preach the WORD" (II Timothy 4:2) and this I will do if GOD permits" (Hebrews 6:3)!
I still would like to know what book gives your belief?????
Books cannot contain the truths required to save mankind. Only a genuine act of love for Humanity.
"Act of love for Humanity" doesn't give information that you believe! Where are you getting your beliefs that Christ has not come? He didn't die "as of" the Son of God because God wouldn't kill HIS Son? Where do you get this?
You cannot find that information anywhere because if the elites see that, you are doomed! They have been hiding that forever and are discreetly acting in anticipation of His coming, to find Him and to kill Him as soon as He appears. That is what all prophecies not only in the Bible are continuously teaching. The elites have already swayed all the unsuspecting public into believing He already came 2k years ago and the one that they are going to kill one of these days is the antichrist who is going against the belief they have orchestrated long ago. The truths have been hidden from us by those sitting in powers because they wanted powers only among themselves and the Coming of Christ would compromise everything for them. Who do you think gave me these information? If you have that connection with God whom you have been announcing all this time, then judge me now if I am telling the truth or lying. Do I appear to you as someone having the spirit of a liar? Do you not know that all prophecies are sealed to be disclosed only on the latter days?
But the wise men from the east will see His birth and give Him gifts but they will not tell Herod, so the prophecy speaks.
I have "that connection with God whom I have been announcing all the time," and after the election in the US, things are moving forward in accordance with the prophecies written in Scriptures!
Who "LEAD" me to you BDN? Who was the FIRST to comment on your FIRST HUB? Who told you, you have a "gift!"
They let some "prophecies" slip through because after the election, I see Seven Years of Tribulation! The Battle of the Armageddon will begin!
I keep telling ALL don't trust ANY "book," but rather SEEK THE "connection" to GOD for man has LIED to us concerning RELIGION!
There are some "truths" hidden within the Bible, but the ONLY WAY a "human" will find is with "THE CONNECTION!"
I just noticed you said millions of years now. It appears you know something no one else does.
It was something called exaggeration. Even a fetus knows Christianity is no more than 2000 years old.
*the fetus is another exaggeration.
Which makes Muhammad's doctrine 500 years less since written 500 years AFTER Bible! Right?
Jesus is the way and the truth and the light.
Has it ever occurred to you that the benefit of being a Christian is in knowing and believing the Good News? This doesn't mean that it isn't Good News for all of the world: just that we, as believers, benefit while here on earth by knowing the truth that applies to all?
What is the "Good News" Live to Learn?
That Jesus was the ransom sacrifice. For humanity. You can't give a gift and then chose to put parameters on it. The problem I see with organized Christianity is that they cannot accept that a gift given freely cannot be taken away by others. God gave the gift. Not you, not me. It is not within your power or the power of anyone to take that away from anyone else. We attempt to say 'yes, but' because it is so exceptionally extraordinary it is difficult to believe.
Don't you think it odd that this is supposed to be Good News but your interpretation implies that billions upon billions will not benefit? How can that be classified as good news?
The apostles were just men attempting to find some meaning in what they experienced. They were not Jesus. No where is it implied that the stories they wrote were divinely inspired. They were simply attempting to document what they had experienced and attempting to make some sense of it all. Paul is another conversation entirely but he did have the honesty to admit on, at least one occasion, that it was simply opinion he was sharing and it should be taken as such.
I didn't "put parameters on it," GOD DID! Go Get your Bible!
If JESUS SAID "I kept them" (John 17:12) you don't believe HE "kept them?" The disciples were empowered with the Holy Spirit (as we should be IF "Disciples of Christ") as JESUS walked the earth with them. READ John 17! Now you can "think" they were "mere men," and sometimes their flesh overtook them (as us) but JESUS (aka The Holy Spirit) "kept them!"
Why would I call JESUS the Holy Spirit? John 14:26 said "The Father will send IN MY NAME.." (Jesus talking) so the Holy Spirit's name is JESUS! Got your Bible? Am I making this up?
It can be classified as "Good News" ONLY if one "OBEYS!" Did JESUS say "If you LOVE ME keep my commandments" (John 14:15)? Didn't HE "command" us to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for the "PROMISE" we had heard from HIM" (Acts 1:4)? Did we not "hear from HIM" in John 14:26; 16:13? Got your Bible? READ IT!
In Jeremiah 31:33-35 GOD spoke of the New Covenant under which the "Good News" (aka GRACE) would be given! HE also witnessed with Scriptures in Hebrews 8:10; 10:16! Got your Bible? READ IT!
BEFORE JESUS ascended, HE "commanded us to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for the "PROMISE" so we would be able to receive the "laws HE would put in our hearts and in our minds" as stated in Jeremiah and Hebrews via the Holy Spirit as stated in Acts 1:2! Did you READ IT?
Now "If we LOVE HIM we will keep HIS commandments" (John 14:15) and if we "kept HIS commandments" BEFORE HE ASCENDED we would acquire the "Communication Line" (aka Holy Spirit) to HIM so HE would be able to "put HIS laws in our hearts and minds" but without, we're on our own misinterpreting Scripture!
That is the TEST! Show GOD you LOVE HIM by "keeping HIS commandments" and "WAIT" for the "PROMISE" by which HE will be able to "put his laws in our hearts and minds" to receive the "Good News" of GRACE!
The apostles were NOT "just men!" When GOD "chooses" one, you're no longer "just a man" for CHRIST dwells within! One may walk around in the flesh but GOD "puts his laws in our hearts and minds" as HE did the apostles! They were "vessels" for JESUS! ALL who are "in Christ" are "vessels for JESUS!" IT IS WRITTEN "the stories they wrote were divinely inspired!" Got your Bible? READ II Timothy 3:16 which says "ALL SCRIPTURE IS "INSPIRED BY GOD..." Did I make this up?
Paul was operating "in Christ's stead!" Get your Bible! II Corinthians 5:20 says "...we pray you IN CHRIST'S STEAD...!" Paul was a "chosen vessel" for Christ (Acts 9:15) and was in no way "just a man!" He operated "in Christ's stead!" That why he said "Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ" (I Corinthians 11:1)!
Paul said in I Corinthians 7: 6 "But I speak this by permission (FROM GOD), and not of commandment" which implies what he spoke was "permitted of GOD" but not "commanded by GOD!" Get you Bible? Am I lying? It was not "his opinion" for he was given "permission" from GOD to speak!
As far as "hopping around in Scripture," the Prophet Isaiah gives us instructions as to how we should "STUDY" the WORD of GOD! Isaiah 28:10-13 "...here a little and there a little..." Go get your Bible and READ verses 10-13! Did I make this up?
IF IT IS WRITTEN GOD SAID LISTEN!
"IF THEY SPEAK NOT ACCORDING TO HIS WORD, THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM" (Isaiah 8:20)!
Millions of years?
I knew it.
In all seriousness though the mystery is not hard to solve, Jesus never intended to start a religion separate to Judaism. The Apostle Paul, among others, spread Jesus' story to the Gentiles. At some point after decades of oral tradition this fledgling Jesus cult had its teachings written down by Greek scribes and spread the Greek speaking world. Because most of those who could read were wealthier and more well educated (literacy being rare in the ancient world) this meant eventually Christianity spread to powerful people. Once Constantine picked it up and made it the official Roman religion that solidified it as a religion but of course it started as an offshoot of Judaism, a cult.
It's clear from certain passages in the New Testament that Jesus believed the Kingdom of God would come in the lifetime of his immediate followers, Jesus himself says this is the case. Christianity has thus been in anticipation of the end times since its inception all those 'millions' of years ago.
It's luck that Christianity is even known about today, let alone one of the world's major religions, considering it was started by a lower class Rabbi who seems to have intended it merely as an addendum to his native Jewish faith.
The million years is just a bait. Lol! Are you open for new ideas or do you have faith already in yourself and what you know? If that's the case, I have no intention to contest your belief then because it would be much easier for me to push a mountain than to move you. But just the same, thank you for sharing and dropping by. God Bless!
You're right in saying "the kingdom of God came in the lifetime of Jesus' immediate followers in HIS lifetime," it says so in Luke 17:21;25 "...the kingdom of God is within you" (v25) But FIRST must HE suffer many things, and be rejected of THIS generation."
Before HE died, HE "Promised" to SEND the "kingdom of God' (aka Holy Spirit) in John 14:26;16:13 and sent IT on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2:2! Christians are looking for a "PLACE" which is in error! They just read verse 21 but didn't continue!
That's why MISFIT "thinks" IT'S in ALL!
Using her analogy, I wish IT would have showed up for the presidential election last night! lol
The Kingdom of GOD is what JESUS asked us to "SEEK YE FIRST..." (Matthew 6:33)! However, IT was not available to us (Luke 17:25) UNTIL "But FIRST HE MUST SUFFER..." or until AFTER HE DIED and "SENT" (Acts 2:2) "THE PROMISE" (John 14:26; 16:13)!
Get your Bible! READ IT! Am I LYING?
Don't get me wrong. I believe that Jesus came and was resurrected. I simply think many misunderstood the meaning of the message. Good news has to be good news.
The "Good News" is "GRACE!" But we MUST "OBEY" and "RECEIVE" HIS "PROMISE" (John 14:26;16:13) to "connect" to HIS SPIRIT for "Communication" DIRECTLY from HIM (Jeremiah 31:34)! THEN HE will be able to "give us COMMANDMENTS" as HE did "the Apostles whom HE had chosen" on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 1:2)! Didn't HE SAY HE would "put his laws in our hearts and minds" under the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 8:10; 10:16)? How are we going to "RECEIVE" those laws without "CONNECTION?"
I'm telling you man, UNLESS WE "CONNECT," we're "doing our own thing" THINKING we are serving GOD! We MUST "OBEY" or repercussions of IGNORANCE!
UNLESS we OBEY, 33K+++ denominations will continue and questions such as this will arise from those not of the faith! We need to stop embarrassing GOD saying "We LOVE the LORD" yet don't "OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS!"
I'm afraid I'm not open to nonsense taught by uneducated preachers to unsuspecting people. I can guarantee you that you don't communicate directly. Believing you do is the first step away from any understanding.
This is, of course, my opinion. But one derived from an indepth study, prayer and contemplation.
Did I not give Scripture? You call the WORD of GOD "nonsense?" Is it because TRUTH wasn't taught in your "seminaries" or "formal educational" settings?
No! I don't "communicate directly" because HIS WORD conflicts with what you've been "taught" (Satan; aka RELIGION)!
I see how you arrived at "your opinion," through "indepth study, prayer (to whom) and contemplation" yet no "Communication Line!" If you had "connected" to GOD, you would BELIEVE HIS WORD! However, you've "connected" to "indepth study" and "teachings;" "contemplating!"
Let me tell you what GOD SAID! "For ye see your calling brethren, how that NOT MANY WISE MEN AFTER THE FLESH, NOT MANY MIGHTY, NOT MANY NOBLE, are CALLED: But GOD has chosen the FOOLISH things of the world to CONFOUND THE WISE; and GOD hath CHOSEN THE WEAK things of the world to CONFOUND THE THINGS WHICH ARE MIGHTY" (I Corinthians 1:26-27)!
Now where does that leave you with all of "your" wisdom and "your" education? "Contemplating?"
Chances sounds pretty slim ("Not many"), depending on how "educated" one is!
Honestly? I call this CAPS ON caps off type of posting nonsense.
As you said, they said that the laws would be written on our hearts and minds so, out of curiosity, why are you posting so much scripture? Does that mean nothing is written on your heart or mind?
If you've studied so "indepth," why do you not know Scripture? Is it because HE doesn't "put ANYTHING in your heart and mind" (Jeremiah 31:33) or "bring all things to your remembrance" (John 14:26)?
Since HE doesn't "bring all things to your remembrance" let me remind you DEFY SCRIPTURE by asking "Why do you post so much Scripture?" because HE SAID in Isaiah 8:20: "To the law and to the testimony; IF THEY SPEAK NOT ACCORDING TO "THIS WORD," IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS "NO LIGHT IN THEM!"
Again, you forgot to get that "Communication Line!" How's that "indepth study, prayer and contemplation" working for ya?
You DEFY SCRIPTURE AGAIN: "they" didn't say "GOD SAID" HE would "put his laws in our hearts and minds" (Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 8:10; 10:16) but I see you don't know ANYTHING about that do you?
I see how that "indepth study, prayer and contemplation" is working for ya!
I don't quote scripture because anyone can develop a philosophy by bouncing around to find the scripture to back an opinion. Doubt it? Go to a JW funeral (or recruiting session as we called it).
If God had expected you to get the lesson you are attempting to teach out of the life of Jesus, I suppose Jesus would have taken the trouble to write it down so everyone would agree.
You are like most religious people.Attempting to make everyone agree with you or attempting to horde the promise and deny others. That is not your right and not within your power. No matter how much scripture you spout.
HE DID 'write it down!" Don't I give what IS WRITTEN (WORD)? Now the "agreeing" part is up to the individual to either "Search the Scriptures to see if so" (Acts 17:11) or "throw IT in the trash can" which MOST will because they have pre-determined THEY ARE RIGHT and deny WHAT IS WRITTEN! But GOD SAID THIS (Matthew 7:13)!
If one TRULY seeks salvation, they would "STUDY" HIS WORD (not man) to "See if these things are so!" It's up to them!
I guess Paul was the SAME WAY for he said in Galatians 1:8 "Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED!" And guess what? He was a "chosen vessel" of GOD (Acts 9:15)!
So your "indepth study" was apparently in the wrong thing because when you say "Attempting to make everyone agree with you or attempting to horde the promise and deny others" you GO AGAINST WORD!
WOW! You should have "WAITED" (Acts 1:4)!
Seriously? Did Jesus write those words? Do you know anything about the history of the Bible?
Go get your Bible and you want have to ask "Did Jesus write those words?"
I tell you "You miss the whole point!" We need to OBEY and get "connected" to HIS SPIRIT so HE can speak to us DIRECTLY (Acts 1:2) as HE said HE would in Jeremiah 31:34!
If HE speaks to us directly, what difference would "the history of the Bible" make?
I'm sorry. Too many claim God speaks to him directly and their voices are not in sync. What does that tell us? Mostly that those making the claim want the power of God over others. Be careful. Dire consequences are said to lay in store for misleading others.
Two thousands years, and counting. The evidence points to incredible misinterpretation over the centuries. If God exists (yes) and if Jesus was his son (yes) then logic dictates you are wrong.
JW'S wrote their own Bible to justify their doctrine as did everyone else!
You miss the whole point! "Connect" to HIS SPIRIT for "leadership and guidance" and HE will "lead and guide you into ALL truth" no matter what "book" or translation you use for a Bible!
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