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Islam is the Fastest Growing Religion - Discuss

  1. rizrazi profile image60
    rizraziposted 8 years ago

    Islam is the Fastest Growing Religion in the World; Discuss the Statement !!!

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      "There is no need to change your faith,
      And on your religion lay a wreath. "

      Only someone who doesn't understand god and religions will try and convert someone and only an equally ignorant person will convert. smile

      1. aka-dj profile image79
        aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I must have been ignorant. lol

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Why which religion did you belong to before you decided Christianity is the right one.?

          1. aka-dj profile image79
            aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Catholicism.

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Whats the difference.?
              Dont both teach you the path to make contact with your higher or inner or god self.?

            2. LondonGirl profile image90
              LondonGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Catholicism isn't a religion, it's a denomination of Christianity.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Like Buddhism and Hinduism.?

                1. LondonGirl profile image90
                  LondonGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Buddhism and Hinduism are not denominations of Christianity, no.

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    I meant does  Catholicism come from Christianity like Buddhism comes from Hinduism as the philosophy of Buddhism and Hinduism are similar.

                2. Aqeel Saeed profile image61
                  Aqeel Saeedposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  religion belongs to good moral ethics. it forms the rules by obeying which the life of people develop into peace and prosperity. Islam has complete code of life which touches the heart of people and it becomes the fastest growing religion.

                  1. rizrazi profile image60
                    rizraziposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    Im pleased to see you here on forums ... !!!

      2. onthewriteside profile image60
        onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        true enough...you will never catch an atheist knocking on your door at 7AM "spreading the word"....

        1. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Are you aware of Agnosticism???

      3. usmanali81 profile image60
        usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        What god is according to you???

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          The same one Muhammad and Jesus and Buddha spoke about.You can read some of my hubs for that.

          1. usmanali81 profile image60
            usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            hhmmm ... that God told you to follow Muhammad (peace be upon him) and abandon avatars or any other thing like that, then why don't you follow God and Muhammad (pbuh) ???

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              God never told me to follow Muhammad , I talk to him all the time and not once did he say such a thing.God is telling me to tell you that follow the message and stop giving more importance to the messenger.It is ridiculous to think one messenger is greater than the other.
              He has asked me to get some sense into fanatics like you and to stop spoiling his name.

              1. usmanali81 profile image60
                usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                This proves you need a Psychiatrist

                1. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  May be you need to learn from me.In that
                  case Muhammad also needs a psychiatrist.
                  Like all fanatics you are spoiling his name and giving the prophets and religions a bad name. You admit Hindu and Parsee and Christian philosophy spoke this truth long before Muhammad so why should anyone belonging to these  religions convert?

                  1. usmanali81 profile image60
                    usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    Because it's mentioned in your scriptures to follow ONE God and the Last and Final Messenger Propeht Muhammad (peace be upon him). Further those religions were only meant for that time. ISLAM, in contrast, is the ultimate and final way of life for the whole of mankind till end of time.

    2. andromida profile image74
      andromidaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      There is no official report of this statement-its only based on
      sampling of random statistical data.Even in reality if Islam were the fastest growing religion then it would be  good news for only those  who judge the religion based on its followers.The question
      can be if it is good or bad for the world .

    3. guidebaba profile image59
      guidebabaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Maybe you are right. They don't believe in Family Planning. They are against use of Condoms and Pills.

    4. getpaidtopost profile image60
      getpaidtopostposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      This is due to the amount of babies they have, i mean 4 wives come on. smile The western world still have hope for god but no longer believe and very few now follow a realign. I have many WasMuslim friends some of who came to England praying 5 times a day, Now they no longer pray, In fact they do normal stuff like enjoy life the best they can. Islam stops you having fun. They still wont eat pig though however I am not keen on pig anyhow.



    5. Kmadhav profile image61
      Kmadhavposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Everyone wants to increase their religion but god or religion never said that popularize me in the world by changing of others religion. Always stay with your religion.....God is one and he is found in every religion ....

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        True there is absolutely no need to change ones religion.

        1. Shil1978 profile image87
          Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Try telling that to Mr. Usman. The guy is obsessed with seeing Earth being inhabited with 100% muslims - lol. And then you have people asking why intolerance and Islam are equated. Well, this sort of thinking is what makes people view Islam as being an intolerant religion. It just can't seem to coexist with other religions.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            They believe they are being righteous but cannot see that they are ruining the name of Muhammad and Islam.Islam has got a bad name due to such lunatics.

            1. Shil1978 profile image87
              Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              One of the distinctive characteristics of people like Mr. Usman is their apparent inability to introspect and see the problems within the muslim community. They assume that everything is perfect with their religion and believe everything is wrong with all others!

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Lack of understanding prevents them from seeing the one in all.

    6. Miss M profile image61
      Miss Mposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      True, it is the fastest growing religion in the world, nut it is not necessarily the most peacful one. Look at the war with Iran agaianst palestian for the land of gaza. Tell me this, is islam is peaceful, then why are muslim terrorists bomibing citites in the West?

      1. usmanali81 profile image60
        usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        They are agents of Zion, mercenaries, not muslims

    7. Andrew0208 profile image61
      Andrew0208posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Your best opinion. Actually, religion stinks!

      1. JonTutor profile image61
        JonTutorposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        @Andrew Dude do you mean all religions stink or only Islam...That Jesus profile does seem out of place if all religions stink including Christianity....Now thats my best opinion.

        1. Andrew0208 profile image61
          Andrew0208posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Jesus is no religion and did kick against the play of religion among people who displayed much of their religious systems and activities whose hearts were outright selfish, wicked, and far from God the father the claim to know and serve.  Anything or setup that takes man for the law instead of law for man stinks and thats religion. Any religion is empty without "love."

          1. usmanali81 profile image60
            usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            LOVE OF GOD-ALLAH and HIS PROPHETS smile. Through out the history you people regected and used to stone and kill prophets not us.

            1. Andrew0208 profile image61
              Andrew0208posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                   They never knew God but were only wicked religious men.  Jesus many times saw the intent of their various hearts. See how religion stinks; They Pharisees including all those religious fanatics who caught a woman in the very act of adultery and these wicked sets almost took her life if not the intervention by Jesus. Jesus by the Spirit warred against their religious antics. That simple question of Jesus to each of them to cast stone on her if free from the same act. That question energized by the Spirit of wisdom did show whom they really are. Religion enslaves but the Love of God enthrones. The same still go on among all religions.

            2. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              You keep abusing me and say Muahammad is a greater prophet than Jesus or Buddha and cannot see you are abusing these prophets.

  2. rizrazi profile image60
    rizraziposted 8 years ago

    Discussion is going on other side,
    my motive to make this topic was that WHY actually it's growing so fast as compared to other religions..

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this
      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Because of lies.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          As well as bonuses and pardons -bribery.

          1. Shil1978 profile image87
            Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            I've heard that in Saudi if you are a condemned criminal, sentenced to death, converting to Islam can spare your life? True?

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Correct and that's when many convert to get a pardon or wriggle out of a court case.Justice goes for a toss.

              1. Shil1978 profile image87
                Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                That's truly pathetic!!

                1. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  I agree what a sad way of converting -threats .

                  1. Jewels profile image82
                    Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    I don't think it was the threat that made the condemned man convert.  More that he was a chicken and converted to save his ass.  There is a major difference.  And the interesting thing to remember is that just because the condemned man SAID he would convert to ISLAM, doesn't mean he gives a damn about Allah.  Same with christians, just saying you are a christian doesn't make you one.

            2. usmanali81 profile image60
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              False

              1. Shil1978 profile image87
                Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                So - the news reports are wrong then?

    2. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I imagine it has something to do with the fact that religionists have no regard for the health of the planet and breed faster than educated people. Do you guys still murder people who convert to other religions?   

      I also see you did not back this statement up with any figures or research. Did god tell you into your head? big_smile

      As a matter of fact - the biggest growth area is atheism. More and more people around the world are turning away from religion and there are almost as many secularists as there are Muslims. Here is some real information instead of stuff god spoke into your head.

        http://www.adam.com.au/bstett/ReligStatistics114.htm

    3. weblog profile image60
      weblogposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      You can start a forum thread, but can't always control it's path wink

      1. rizrazi profile image60
        rizraziposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Ya right

    4. Shil1978 profile image87
      Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Your real motive for starting this thread is for purely self-congratulatory purposes. I've seen many like you on the Internet opening up such threads just to boast about the supposed increasing numbers.

      I don't know about the exact numbers per se, but I do know the fertility rates among muslims are the highest. So, there you go!!! Perhaps, more muslims should practice contraception!!

    5. chukra G profile image61
      chukra Gposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      the same went to religions, religions real motives now faded and went far from its track

    6. Dylith profile image60
      Dylithposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I would have to wager a guess that it is primarily due to birth rates being much higher in states that have a Muslim majority.

  3. Lady_E profile image81
    Lady_Eposted 8 years ago

    It definitely is not the fastest growing religion. 

    May I also point out that some parts of the world are suffering and people/children are being killed due to this religion.

    1. rizrazi profile image60
      rizraziposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      A few years Back
      There were two Mosques in France and now there are more than 5000... isn't it ?

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        A few years back there were not thousands of Muslims emigrating to France because they prefer to live in a Christian country. wink

        1. rizrazi profile image60
          rizraziposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          But the number of immigrant can never be so much high that it 5000+ Mosques to be build

          1. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            lol - yes it can. It is almost 100% down to muslims who do not wish to live in a muslim country immigrating to France to live in a christian country where they are freer. And your BS figure is very wrong. There are actually 1500 mosques in France lol

            http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=7990

        2. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          France is not a christianity based country any more since FRENCH REVOLUTION imposed by Freemasons.

    2. rizrazi profile image60
      rizraziposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Every Community have some people who don't follow the rules of the community, Most of the World's rape event are happening in America, Are the Muslims doing That?
      I agree that there are some people who are Muslims but dont follow the Islam so it's their Fault not of Islam.
      2ndly you are pointing this because All other religions are united against Islam and the Biggest fact is that Media is Anti-Islamic, IF a Muslim do any minor crime it comes at the front page of newspaper of Programs are done on that issue on TV channels but if a Christan or Hindus or Jew or any other Religion follower commit any crime, it's not take as a issue..
      America Attacked IRAQ, IRAN, AFGHANISTAN, You answer me, To kill a single person or is it right to Kill the whole country?

      1. Jewels profile image82
        Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I don't think the media is anti Islam, more anti extremist. The world is anti extremist. And you are right, killing is not achieving much at all, on any side.

    3. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, it definitely is the fastest growing religion, some of the references are as follows ...

      Muslims, those who believe in Islam, are everywhere in the United States. They may be your doctor or drive your taxi. They may serve you in restaurants or advise you in law. And they increasingly may be in the same foxhole, manning the same position or working on the same aircraft as you … In the United States, Islam is the fastest growing religion …45

      45. "Islam Growing in America," American Forces Information Service, October 4, 2001

      With some 6 million adherents in the United States, Islam is said to be the nation's fastest-growing religion, fueled by immigration, high birth rates and widespread conversion. One expert estimates that 25,000 people a year become Muslims in this country; some clerics say they have seen conversion rates quadruple since Sept. 11.46

      46. The New York Times, October 22, 2001.

      A recent issue of Christianity Today, one of America's best-known magazines, contained an article entitled "Are Christians Prepared for Muslims in the Mainstream?" It gives this account of Islam's rise in America:38

      One of the most important names associated with this issue is Professor Dianne Eck, known for coining the name "Pluralism Project" for an enterprise in interfaith dialogue. In her book, A New Religious America, she gives an account of what she has determined about Islam's rapid rise:

      As Muslims become more numerous and visible in American society, public officials have begun to shift from speaking of "churches and synagogues" to "churches, synagogues, and mosques." The annual observance of the Ramadan month of Muslim fasting now receives public notice and becomes the occasion for portraits of the Muslims next door in the Dallas Morning News or the Minneapolis Star Tribune. The fast-breaking meals called "iftar" at the close of each day have become moments of recognition. In the late 1990s there were iftar observances by Muslim staffers on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and in the State Department. In 1996 the White House hosted the first observance of the celebration of Eid al-Fitr at the end of the month of Ramadan, a practice that has continued. The same year also saw the U.S. Navy commission its first Muslim chaplain, Lieutenant M. Malak Abd al-Muta' Ali Noel, and in 1998 the U.S. Navy's first mosque was opened on the Norfolk Naval Base in Virginia, where Lieutenant Noel was stationed. When 50 sailors attend Friday prayers at this facility, they signal to all of us a new era of American religious life.39

      38. The Christianity Today, April 3, 2000.
      39. Dr. Diana L. Eck, "A New Religious America," http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itdhr/ … e/eck.htm.


      Many Americans also are investigating, some for the first time, one of the world's great faiths and oldest civilizations. Bookstores are selling out of copies of the Koran. University classes and teach-ins on the Middle East and Islam are filled to capacity. Middle East scholars are being invited on television news shows repeatedly and being spotted on the street like celebrities. And many everyday Middle Easterners-Muslim or not-are fielding a daily barrage of questions about Islam from neighbors, co-workers and strangers… "We are overwhelmed," said Mahmoud Abdel-Baset, religious director of the Islamic Center of Southern California. Since the attacks, the Los Angeles-based center has hosted a steady stream of dignitaries, including Gov. Gray Davis, Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca and Los Angeles Mayor James K. Hahn... Richard Hrair Dekmejian, a USC professor on Middle Eastern politics, said this thirst for knowledge about Islam is a result of the powerful impact of the Sept. 11 attacks and the general lack of religious knowledge in America.43

      43. The Los Angeles Times, September 26, 2001.

      This is God's promise to man:

      Say: "Truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Falsehood is always bound to vanish." (The Qur'an, 17:81)

    4. Dylith profile image60
      Dylithposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      1. That depends on if you are looking at fastest growing religion in terms of a percentage of total members or fastest growing religion in terms of sheer numbers. If it is simple numbers then I believe that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, if we look at it as growth as a percentage of total members then we get into religious belief systems such as Mormonism and even atheism.

      2. The world suffers just fine without Islam as well, and much of the human rights abuses commonly associated with Islam are not issues that Islam necessarily necessitates.

      Also, when talking about human rights abuses in the context of religion, making a statement such as "Islam is responsible for this and that" is rather vague given the many different forms that it takes (and especially given the different forms that sharia takes)

      1. IntimatEvolution profile image79
        IntimatEvolutionposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Here is the west, isn't Buddhism on the rise?

        1. Dylith profile image60
          Dylithposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          It could be, It has been some years since I have last looked at Buddhism and statistics related to it.

          Like someone already pointed out in this thread though, statistics are rather easy to manipulate in order to show what it is you want them to. I could start a religion that only has say 10 people and then recruit 20 more and claim that I am the fastest growing religion in the US with an annual growth rate of 200%.

          Since Buddhism is a smaller religion in general in the West it could very well be higher up on the list of fastest growing in terms of percentage increase when looking at specifically developed western countries.

          Starting off with a smaller population base (in comparison to your competition) and then promoting large families and being very active in terms of recruitment (like Mormonism) is rather naturally conducive to being able to claim such high growth rates in terms of percentage growth.

          It has been a couple of years since I have checked, but the last I looked Mormonism was up there for fastest growing in terms of percentage growth.

  4. dipless profile image86
    diplessposted 8 years ago

    Lies, damned lies, and statistics i think fits this statement well... stats can be used to show whatever it is you want to prove... every religion claims to be the fastest growning, all use different surveys and stats.

    1. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Islam is not claiming rather the Non Muslims themselves claimed this.

  5. profile image0
    \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years ago

    and the hatred and arguments go on and on in the name of religion......  i wonder what the dictionery def. of religion is actually..

    I wonder if a better question would be
    Are more people turning to God, or turning away from him.....

  6. rizrazi profile image60
    rizraziposted 8 years ago
  7. fierycj profile image86
    fierycjposted 8 years ago

    To respond to the thread's statement: That is a totally outrageous statement. Islam being the fastest growing religion? Why would you even say a thing like that. That doesn't even make sense for heaven's sake.

  8. chukra G profile image61
    chukra Gposted 8 years ago

    so what to be so proud of, growing with violence as well, i am not blaming ISLAM at all, for me every religion is good, but the problem is with the followers. there are so many positive things in ISLAM where if each of them follow in order according to it, i am very sure, there wont be any killing in the name of god, same goes to every religion,

  9. profile image0
    \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years ago

    Amen to that

  10. profile image0
    \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years ago

    is that not just a little below the belt?????? or is it true, maybe it is

    1. guidebaba profile image59
      guidebabaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Dear, it could be little below the belt but 101% true.

  11. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 8 years ago

    It may,or may not be the fastest growing religion, but that does not mean much, ultimately. It proves nothing. It does not make it right, normal or true.
    So what are you saying?

    1. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      It proves everything, it clears every misconceptions bombarded by Zionists and Freemasons. It proves to be the ultimate way of life for the mankind. It proves to be the most balanced religion of the world. It allows christians to marry. It eliminates the caste system of Hindus. It compells atheists to think repeatidly, how come the scientific facts like BIG BANG can be known and mentioned 1400 years ago in Qur'an.

  12. getpaidtopost profile image60
    getpaidtopostposted 8 years ago

    My friends told me that when the end of the world comes only Muslim will survive. Is this brain washing or what?

    I have respect for the people who believe any faith and say good luck to you. However I do not respect religion I follow Good and stay away from bad.

    1. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      you have heard a little bit wrong or may be you have forgotten the proper wording. The theme is that near the end of time / world / universe, there will be no dispute on ISLAM, every one will accept ISLAM willingly. ISLAM will eradicate all the ISM based false and pagan doctrines. People of the world will find peace only in ISLAM and they will enter ISLAM keenly resulting in no human being a NON MUSLIM any more.

      1. Jewels profile image82
        Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I like the interpretation of there being no "isms," to me that sounds like no separation.

      2. getpaidtopost profile image60
        getpaidtopostposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        So what happens to the non-muslim? No way all will follow. 100% no way.

        1. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          99.9 %, is that ok now. The statistics show that the day is near when all of the humans will be MUSLIMS.

          1. Shil1978 profile image87
            Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Would this include Shias and other such sub denominations of Islam as well. Are they considered muslims in the first place.

            1. usmanali81 profile image60
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, shias are Muslims without any doubt

              1. Shil1978 profile image87
                Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Why do Shias and Sunnis kill each other then? I don't think they'd come down to the level of killing each other, if there were no fundamental difference between them - would they?

                Why does Saudi Arabia view Iran as a threat? And Iran likewise?

                Also, what about Ahemedias? Are they muslims?

                1. usmanali81 profile image60
                  usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Shias and Sunnis dont kill each other.
                  Where does Saudi called Iran as a threat???
                  Ahmedias are not muslims.

                  1. Shil1978 profile image87
                    Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    Well, why do they bomb each other's mosques then? Are you saying Shia-Sunni strife is fiction?

                    Does Saudi Arabia consider Iran an ally or friend? Why is Saudi Arabia so conerned about Iranian ambitions and its nuclear capability?

                    Why if Islam is a cure-all is not the muslim countries united? Why do they accuse each other, bicker over issues?

                    If Ahmedias are not muslim, what are they? They say they are muslims - you say they are not?

      3. Shil1978 profile image87
        Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Lol - what is the source for this?

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Fanaticism.

    2. Jewels profile image82
      Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Tasmanians are the only ones likely to survive.  And if you have to ask where Tasmania is then that is confirmation that they will be the chosen ones. lol

    3. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Sure its brainwashing, ego trip.

      1. Jewels profile image82
        Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        The Evangelical Christians are no better in this regard with talk of The Rapture.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          You have fanatics in all religions.

        2. getpaidtopost profile image60
          getpaidtopostposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I agree. I believe no faith, I do good and stay away from evil, I think this is enough.

  13. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago

    With this attitude on India's borders, the Hindus are bound to assert themselves and re-establish the original Hindustan, which stretched from Kandahar (Afganistan) to Kampuchea.

    Having more than one wife and no restriction on baby births, muslims are expanding in population.

    We should keep in mind that a small country, England, won over a quarter of the world and held them for over a century. Numbers never matter.

  14. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    No religion will be the ultimate belief. Development of the self, or the process of individuation will take over as ignorance and fear induced by religions lose their hold and naturally subside

    1. getpaidtopost profile image60
      getpaidtopostposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Wish I could write like you.

      1. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I think you can.

        1. getpaidtopost profile image60
          getpaidtopostposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks for the compliment, Earnest wink cheque in the post.

    2. Jewels profile image82
      Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      And that will be a wondrous thing indeed.

      1. agvulpes profile image90
        agvulpesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah but I wont be holding my breath for it to happen any time soon. cool

        1. Jewels profile image82
          Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah I know Ag, but there is always hope, I hope it's still around - hope that is! smile

    3. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Kindly elaborate development of the self and the process of individuation.

      1. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I will attempt to explain.
        By taking the position that my life experiences are an attempt by my consciousness to know the inner self, the soul and spirit bring light to this learning during meditation, a half awake state called revery and in dreams during rem sleep.
        The archetypes and symbols and what they represent to me are a part of my guidance, my aim is to steer my conscious mind towards making more things about my sub-conscious life understandable to me.
        My goal is to become one with self, or what many call god.The process of individuation is a life's time study of self, and humbles me daily. My inner work will go on until I die. I do not adhere to any god of religion.

        1. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          WHY ARE YOU SO SURE ABOUT YOUR DEATH AND HOW ???

          Meditation can be usefull in jugles and deserts where you do not have to react with any other. In real life, you have to act as a Father, Husband, Son, Brother, Relative, Friend, Neighbour, Officer, Manager, Statesman, Judge, Soldier and the list goes on and on. For these roles, the guidance from Almighty Allah (God) came down in the form of Scriptures and the final one is Qur'an. It's an instruction manual for indivisuals and groups.

          These theories of Maditation, Individuation, Nature, Mother Nature are not new rather the roots can be found easily in Ancient Egyptian's Pagan Doctrines of Humanism, Materialis and Evolution. With your themes of individuation and humanism which you learn through out your lives indivisually, leads to chaos and destruction. Under the tags of individuation, maditation, self praise, love and humanity our sisters and daughters of USA, Australia and Europe lose virginity, become sex slaves and society butterflies on beaches, hotels, restaurants, offices, streets, clubs and pubs. The most recent Credit Crunch exposed these ill ways of learning your innerself and praise of humanity. Indivisuals inner selves told them that INTEREST is a good thing on the basis of which they develped interest based banks and now we see nations caught up by these snakes. A large number of people lost their jobs just because of learning your innerselves through out your lives.

          The above small account proves these pagan ideoligies to be false and devilish which does not include fear of God, fear of reward or punishment after death. This lead USA to have maximum number of prisons and prisoners in the world. This lead USA to have maximum number of rapes per day (almost 2000 rapes per day). This lead USA to have maximum number of registered cases of Depression, Hypertension, Obesity, Breast Cancer, Aids ....... (a long list of diseases) despite the fact that they are leading a top notch facilitated life on the basis of Humanism, Love, Art, Self Praise, Mother Nature bla bla bla. This lead USA under the debt of 7.0 Trillion Dollars. This lead EUROPE and USA to have maximum number of old age houses, where the open minded Atheists and Zionists dump their innocent and loving parents single-handedly.

          For some more details about the hollow slogans and special fruits of tolerance, love, humanity, self recognition, half sleep etc click on http://hubpages.com/hub/Rape-Escape RAPE ESCAPE

          1. earnestshub profile image87
            earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            You do not speak my truth for me, and obviously assume that I know less than you as I follow a different path. The height of arrogance! Then you tell me about the moral behaviour of the country I have lived in all my life. Australian society is totally different to your exaggerated hyperbole. Do not assume anything about me, as my brief explanation lead you in to your diatribe I can see you know little about it.

            1. usmanali81 profile image60
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              I did not assumed any thing in the above reply, these are the facts of established false ideologies and practices of ISMs and if the truth hurts you then what can i say ... the choice is yours cool

          2. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Meditation can be usefull in jugles and deserts where you do not have to react with any other.

            Who is teaching you all this rubbish? Do you think Muhammad never meditated ? He was totally into mediation and it doesn't matter where in the world you are.

            For these roles, the guidance from Almighty Allah (God) came down in the form of Scriptures and the final one is Qur'an. It's an instruction manual for indivisuals and groups.

            Have you read the Holy Guru Granth Sahib? Sikhs take it as the word of god and it is the word of god. Then you have the Vedas, Mahabharata, Patanjalis Yoga Sutras, Buddha sutras,Holy Bible , Zen Avestha which are also the word of god.

            1. usmanali81 profile image60
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              First, you visit a Psychiatrist and then pose questions.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Dont tell me what to do boy.

                Have you read the Holy Guru Granth Sahib? Sikhs take it as the word of god and it is the word of god. Then you have the Vedas, Mahabharata, Patanjalis Yoga Sutras, Buddha sutras,Holy Bible , Zen Avestha which are also the word of god.

                Read these masterpieces , they are better than the Quran.

                Did you look up the rankings? What if my work is ranked with the Quran? You have so very conveniently missed it out, go back to your posts.Will you say forgive me o great master for my stupidity a thousand times if I post it again?
                What if I am speaking the truth which is something you can verify very easily.Are you not insulting a messenger of Allah?

                1. usmanali81 profile image60
                  usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Hindu scriptures told you to obey only ONE God and follow Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and you are not doing it. Get rid of Freemasonry

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    I am god and a prophet so why should I follow anyone.I teach about god like Muhammad did and there is no difference between us.
                    Hindu scriptures understand that there are many prophets who speak the same truth and it is foolish to believe in just one.Also for the hundredth time the last prophet was not Muhammad but is expected now.
                    Do you understand the meaning of enlightenment? Do you believe Muhammad was enlightened as there is a debate on this.

  15. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago

    Muslim religion is the real threat to humanity...
    India is the real answer to them....

    In some other thread, I have mentioned that their political ambition are far from their reach... as they have no potential power to establish their dreams. If they shed their political ambition, Islam is the best religion, which can be made universal. Islam has all the good things in it.

  16. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    He stereotypes whole nations and then finds links to support his prejudices. That is the trouble with holy books, you can read whatever prejudice you like in to them!

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      He answers you with rape statistics of the United States. I don't think he understood you at all. smile

      1. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        So far he has argued against gays, lesbians, pig flue, sex, sex outside marriage and seems to blame it all on a few stone cutters.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          lol  lol

        2. Shil1978 profile image87
          Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, Free Masons -- he loves them. And of course, blames them for all that is wrong in the world.

          He's even argued that the Taliban were a creation of zionists and are actually propagating western interests in Afghanistan? See any logic to that smile

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            And the Taliban are Freemasons  lol
            See any logic to that ?  very hard to lol lol

            1. Shil1978 profile image87
              Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              I wonder how his posts would look like if the words "Free Masons" and "zionists" were banned on hubpages smile

              1. Shil1978 profile image87
                Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Oh - I forgot rape statistics of the US - among other supposed evil things that occur in the US smile

              2. usmanali81 profile image60
                usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Only a Freemason or Zionist can do it big_smile

            2. usmanali81 profile image60
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Some Talibans like Betullah Mehsud group are Honorary Freemasons like you.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                You insist that I am  Freemason when I keep telling you I am not.Do you know the meaning of enlightenment? Do you believe Muhammad was enlightened? You say you have good understanding of spirituality but do not understand the very essence of it which is called enlightenment.

                1. usmanali81 profile image60
                  usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Honorary Freemasons are not registered members of Masonry rather they support their pagan doctrines of ISMs for penny gains. That's the reason Masons call them Honorary and don't give them any Maonic degree from 1-33

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    Well when will you understand that I am not.
                    Do you know the meaning of enlightenment? Do you believe Muhammad was enlightened?

          2. usmanali81 profile image60
            usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            It's more than logic, it's a fact smile

            1. Shil1978 profile image87
              Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Anything that suits your line of thinking -- becomes a fact - of course!!

      2. Shil1978 profile image87
        Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        People like him don't like to read --- and then answer based on reading the posts of others. They already have fixed, rigid views, which they've already determined to be correct. So, the whole exercise is to prove that with links collected and stored from the Internet.

        Do note that these links aren't collected with any personal effort. They can usually be found in Islamic forums, which specialize in propagating Islam as a cure-all for everything and confusing followers of other religions by obfuscation and copying-n-pasting material from their books.

  17. getpaidtopost profile image60
    getpaidtopostposted 8 years ago

    I see religion as a way to keep people in line. religion was a good idea for people 2000 years, hell they would have beveled anything. Religion is a way to steer people along the right path of life, and not slip into temptation from evil. I have practiced this all my adult life and for this reason think it a waste of time following any religion. Praying 5 times a day fasting for 1 month of sun this is a waste.

  18. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    You handle the truth far too carelessly for my liking.

  19. getpaidtopost profile image60
    getpaidtopostposted 8 years ago

    Not sure about the fastest growing religion, but this must be the fastest growing forum, Enough already.

  20. profile image60
    bradwilson55posted 8 years ago

    no one is bigger one , Humanity is  religion for all.

    there  should be no condition  on choosing  religions, We should freely choose which ever religion we want to..  Then only there will be a peaceful and honest world .

    1. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Humanism gave us the fruits of WWI and WWII

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Correct and its is foolish to try and convert someone as there is no difference in the message of any prophet.All prophets spread knowledge of the light.

  21. JonTutor profile image61
    JonTutorposted 8 years ago

    @Mohit Dude That crazy guy Usman is still around. You gotta be either too naive or too patient to deal with him. I don't suffer fools.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Its my job Jon.smile Got to stop these lunatics from creating wars in the name of god.

      1. usmanali81 profile image60
        usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, it's the job of every HONORARY FREEMASON to get paid for degrading ISLAM

        1. JonTutor profile image61
          JonTutorposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          @Usman Can't you write a few lines without mentioning Zionist, Freemason or Islam.... Come on you can do it....Just try to think for yourself for a change.

          1. earnestshub profile image87
            earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Absolutely no chance of that happening Jon!

            1. countrywomen profile image60
              countrywomenposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              It sure is tough luck. smile

            2. usmanali81 profile image60
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Because Freemasons are in every nuke and corner, they are snakes in the sleves.

        2. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          When have I degraded Islam? I have always said it is a great religion with a great prophet. Understand it is not possible for me to degrade the prophets or religions as they stand for god, I don't have ego or attachment to any one religion or prophet like you do.

          Its people like you who degrade the name of Islam. People will read your posts and say what lunatics are these Muslims , they think they are the greatest, fanatics.We have understood god centuries before they did and now they try and teach us.
          All Muslims are not fanatics like you and neither was the prophet Muhammad.

  22. onthewriteside profile image60
    onthewritesideposted 8 years ago

    In the meat compartment of my refrigerator, Islam is the fastest growing...

    Oh never mind....I'm dyslexic...

  23. tksensei profile image59
    tksenseiposted 8 years ago

    Idries Shah has some interesting books

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      There have been many sufi master and Rumi is amongst my all time favorites.

 
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