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Bible Contradictions.....

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    ryankettposted 7 years ago

    There are some great ones out there, perhaps Atomswifey could clarify this simple one:

    EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

    ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

    So, is god a god of war or a god of piece? I have always had the impression that he is supposed to be peaceful. Does he have an alter ego? Or have you all got it wrong?..... maybe there is a god of war and a god of peace? I take it that the American Right have taken the first statement as correct.


    God cannot tempt anybody?

    James 1:13- Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

    Oh yes he can.....

    Genesis 22:1-  And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

    And Jesus asks him to do it:

    Matthew 6:13- And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.



    Baasha died in the 27th year of Asa's reign!

    1 Kings 15:33-  In the third year of Asa king of Judah began Baasha the son of Ahijah to reign over all Israel in Tirzah, twenty and four years

    But then Baasha came against Judah AND built Ramah 9 years after he died!

    2 Chronicles 16:1-  In the six and thirtieth year of the reign of Asa Baasha king of Israel came up against Judah, and built Ramah, to the intent that he might let none go out or come in to Asa king of Judah.



    1 Chronicles 21:12- Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me.

    2 Samuel 24:13-  So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue thee? or that there be three days' pestilence in thy land? now advise, and see what answer I shall return to him that sent me.



    What a crock of old shit. Im not having a dig at believers, I am having a dig at people that live there lives word for word on this book. I dont see JK Rowling contradicting herself.

    1. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So which side of God are you on? Is He your friend or foe?
      You seem to not follow Him, so I can only assume "foe". hmm
      Not hard to figure out really. big_smile

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Damn. I forgot this way. What you can also do is change the words to suit. Where it says man of war - you change that to "foe." and where it says "god of peace," you change that to "friend." lol

        1. aka-dj profile image79
          aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          So? Is that wrong?

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            "Like a journalist, oh you can cut and paste and twist, your awful" - The Libertines, Track 10 or 11 I believe.

            The first statement said that God is a man of war. The second statement said that god is a man of peace. Now, John Lennon was a man of peace, Hitler was a man of war. So what is he? Is he Hitler or is he John Lennon?

            1. tantrum profile image60
              tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              He's Chris Angel lol

          2. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Wrong? I don't know. It depends on your moral code I guess. My personal code does not allow me to lie and use semantics to make a point. Yours does - seeing as you are a christian. The question of right or wrong is moot. It is part of the reason I came to the conclusion that there is no christian god though.

            1. aka-dj profile image79
              aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I see. You have the moral "high ground" and I have the "low".
              But, in your world anything goes, so I can be any way I want,right? You set your own standard, so why can't I? hmm

              1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                No - you are the one applying moral standards to a scientific theory. I have never done that - nor would I. Like I said - using semantics and lying is against my personal code of ethics.

                But not yours apparently. wink

                1. aka-dj profile image79
                  aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I am a liar from away back!!!
                  I'm so glad you pointed out my weakness.
                  I will have to tell the truth from now on.
                  But, since truth seems to be relative these days ( as a standard modus operandi), can I really be a LIAR?
                  HHHMMMMM??? hmm

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                    Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Semantics. Good for you - whatever floats your boat. Like I keep trying to explain to you - it is people such as yourself who persuaded me there cannot possibly be a god.

                    Thank you.

                  2. tantrum profile image60
                    tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    If being a liar is your weakness, your fortitude must be concealing. I wonder what your 'truth' looks like

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Neither, I cannot be a friend or foe of somebody that I do not believe exists.

    2. atomswifey profile image68
      atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      As you invited me to "clarify" I will.

      God is both. He is a God of war and A God of peace. He is righteously perfect in both.

      Temptation has many synonyms (equivalent words) in English. It can mean (among other things) test, proof, experiment, trial, and enticement. The main Greek (New Testament language) words for temptation are formed from peiraz and dokimaz

      From this vocabulary study, we see that "temptation" can mean test, proof, or to establish genuineness; not only "enticement to sin."

      God Cannot Be Tempted:
      James 1:13 "Let no one say when he is tempted, 'I am being tempted by God'; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone." Looking at the context, we see that the statement is not merely "God cannot be tempted," but "God cannot be tempted by evil." In other words, God cannot be enticed to sin (Greek apeir st s). James 1:13 affirms that God cannot sin, but is completely holy and good.

      God Can Be Tempted:
      When Deuteronomy 6:16 warns us against "tempting God," the context refers on the one hand to testing the Israelites' faithfulness and, on the other hand, to testing God's righteous judgment. Paraphrased, the passage means, "Don't test God's righteous judgment by worship-ping idols unless you are willing to be wiped off the face of the earth" (verse 15).
      The reconciliation of the two statements? God cannot be enticed to sin, He is holy and good. God's consistent, holy, good reaction to idolatry is righteous judgment. One should not "test" God's character by sinning, since God will "pass the test" of righteousness and punish the sinner (see also Jeremiah 18:7-10).

      Does God Tempt People?
      Look again at James 1:13. Just as God cannot be enticed into sinning, so God does not entice anyone else into sinning. That is what is meant by "and He Himself does not tempt anyone." James warns us not to blame our own fall into sin on God. God does not persuade us to sin, we willingly fall to the lure of our own sinful nature (Romans 3:23), the sinfulness in the world (Titus 2:12), and/or the false promises of Satan (Genesis 3:1-5).
      When 2 Samuel 24:1 says God provoked or tempted David to number Israel, it means God made use of David's action to manifest David's disobedience to God. The parallel passage in 1 Chronicles 27:23-24 credits Satan with provoking David to take the census. Putting the two passages together shows that, while Satan may have enticed David into sin, it was God who tested David and used that occasion to show both David and the Israelites the consequences of David's sin.

      God tests us to reveal to ourselves and the world our true characters.

      1KI 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign.
      2CH 16:1
      Baasha:
      In Jewish tradition there was no provision for a queen.  Here, the queen-mother, Maachah, takes on an important role when her son Abijam dies after reigning only 3 years.  She adopts one of his sons Asa (I Kings 15:10) apparently as a figure-head and actually reigns herself for the first 10 years (see II Chronicles 14:2).  After this period, Asa wins a great battle, is encouraged by the prophet in chapter 15, and takes over.  He cleans the idols out of Judah AND Benjamin (as noted above) and removes the idolatrous Maachah as queen (I Kings 15:13 and II Chronicles 15:16).  Likely this ten-year reign of the Queen mother alongside Asa is the reason for the ten-year discrepancy in dating the Baasha event by how long Asa had ruled.


      Why can the KJV and Hebrew use differing words to tell of an event but another version is considered "in error" when it does the same thing?
      Such as with the "contradictions" you cite between 1 Chronicles 21:12 & 2 Samuel 24:13 and the different Bible's they are taught in.

      OK lets examine this for a minute shall we?
      Differences in what was spoken by Gad 2 Samuel 24:13 (KJV)& 1 Chronicles 21:12 (KJV)
      "famine come unto thee in thy land?" (2 Sam)
      "famine" (1 chron)
      "before thine enemies" (2Sam)
      "destroyed before thy foes" (1 Chron)
      "while they pursue thee" (2 sam)
      "while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee"(1 chron)
      "three days' pestilence" (2 Sam)
      "three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence" (1 chron)
      [not preset] (2 Sam)
      "and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel" (1 chron)
      "now advise, and see" (2 Sam)
      "Now therefore advise thyself" (1 chron)
      "what answer I shall return" (2 Sam)
      "what word I shall bring again" (1 chron)
      Choices worded as questions (2 Sam)
      Choices worded as a list (not questions)(2 chron)

      And too,
      Hebrew manuscripts and the Masoretic [Hebrew] Text offer seven years of famine in 2 Sam 24:13. Other Hebrew manuscript evidence more recently discovered having three, the 1 Chronicle text being considered as better preserved, the Septuagint which has three, the symmetry of the three punishments all being three years and the easy possibility of mistaking the Hebrew character 3 for 7 lead to the resolution of this alleged contradiction as three instead of seven years in 2 Sam 24:13. This is reflected in some well received translations such as the NIV.
      I happen to study in the NIV btw as well as the KJV

      So I hope that helped to clarify those things for you smile

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/stock/smiley-character0052.gif

      2. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ryan - now you know why they used to feed them to the lions.

        AW - good job girl. You are persuading more and more away from your religion every time you open your mouth.



































































        Jeebus would be very proud.

        1. atomswifey profile image68
          atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ryan: This is the why...
          Matthew 24:9
          "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            That is why what? That is just a sentence, what does it mean?

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        wordscribe41posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        When you copy and paste, please put quotation marks around your text and cite your source.  You took all of the above from:

        http://answers.org/theology/is_god_tempted.html
        http://www.biblestudymanuals.net/contradict.htm

        I thought you said you study the Bible, you certainly claim to be an expert.  Why can't you answer Ryan's questions yourself?  It makes you look, well, how can I put this, a little uneducated on your own topic/deceitful...  Please, cite your sources.

    3. waynet profile image47
      waynetposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Great stuff...prepare for the onslaught of more bible bashers coming out of the wood work screaming blasphemer!!!!!!the lord is my shepherds pie and all that jazz!

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol I am prepared Wayne, why do you think I have been whitelisting today lol

  2. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    He-he. You will be explained that you should use divine discretion on which parts to take literally and which not. Of course the right mix is defined by the person who explains this to you, and every other interpretation is blasphemy lol

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh that old trick, the same divine discretion that suicide bombers use in Islam with the Qur'an? wink

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        \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        give me one at a time and i will try to answer you, i can't take all those at once,,,,,,

  3. Mark Knowles profile image60
    Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago

    Oooo, wait a minute, I know I know.

    Here is how you pretend there are no glaring contradictions in the bible:

    What you do is - you use "scripture to interpret scripture."

    So, for example  where it says

    James 1:13- Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

    and

    Genesis 22:1-  And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

    What you need to do is pick the one that you want to use and say - 'well, this is not a contradiction. Using "scripture to interpret scripture," we can see that god IS able to tempt and we can ignore the other one.'

    Easy - they do it all the time. You can make it say anything you want.

    1. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So can you!
      And you do. Big deal!
      Means nothing to you anyway! hmm

    2. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Bible Cheaters

    3. Daniel Carter profile image92
      Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL. I think the word "interpret" is the root problem. Everybody gets to "interpret" the scriptures, apparently. Reading them seems to be just too ordinary and impossible. Thus rape, murder and plunder are all justified, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I agree. The problem is - it was written 2,000 years ago and then mis-translated, added to, taken away from, etc. I have an original KJ version and it was clearly written to keep the peasants in line. 

        It is no longer relevant. If it ever was. Which means you must interpret it. As you have always had to do. Which means it says what you (and I do not mean just you personally) want it to. Therefore it is worthless. A quick look through any history book will show that we have been fighting over this for 1500 years.

        Time to ditch it and start accepting some responsibility for ourselves. The very second you start thinking you are speaking for a god is the very second your ability to make rational decisions goes out of the window.

        But that leaves people like AW powerless. She is unable to think for herself and has no "authority," unless she is shouting bible verses.

        I wonder if she is that obnoxious in real life? lol

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Holy Moly!  That is my favorite line.  Seriously every time I hear I start to laugh.  Then I am suddenly over come by one eye brow that raises for seemingly no apparent reason.

      I wonder what scriptures were used to interpret scriptures before all the scripture was written... darn it!  There goes my eye brow again. lol  Doh!

      1. Valerie F profile image60
        Valerie Fposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Some of it began as oral tradition.

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          sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, ever heard of the Banana Phone? lol

          1. Valerie F profile image60
            Valerie Fposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You laugh, but I come from a family with a fairly rich oral tradition. Any written records of some of the stories are very old and very limited. Towns where certain events took place no longer exist or were absorbed by larger cities nearby. Some of the details become more exaggerated or downplayed in the retelling. Most of the stories can't be verified, as there are no living eyewitnesses, but the gist of all the stories and the lessons that can be learned from them, with which I have no reason to quarrel, have remained the same over the generations.

            Then note that I did not say all scripture began as oral tradition. Just some.

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              ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I come from a family of rich oral tradition too, its just lucky that two of them abandoned this tradition on the night that I was concieved.

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                sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                lol DIRTY!!! lol

              2. Ron Montgomery profile image61
                Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Verrrry Funny lol

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              sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It all began as an oral tradition.  They learned to speak before they learned to write. big_smile At least that is what I heard that God said to tell the others before they wrote it down. lol

      2. Jerami profile image78
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

           This is what I have been saying all along.
        James was a man. If James says something that contradicts something that God or Jesus said, then disregard what the MAN said.
          Please don't call me a liar because somebody else said that I said. If I did contradict myself, ask me about it. Maybe I will have an explanation and maybe I won't, caus I'm just a man, I may be guilty of contradiction.

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          sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Then what about disregarding what others say about what Jesus said that God said that Jesus said that Peter told Paul to tell Luke to tell Timothy to tell their disciples to tell... to tell... to tell...

          No worries Jerami, you are alright by me. lol

          1. Jerami profile image78
            Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I really do think that if "CHRISTIANS" would quit following the disciples and start studying what THA REAL man said they would be acting diffrently.

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              sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Uh Oh, watch out your steppin' on your brothers toes. lol.

  4. mkott profile image78
    mkottposted 7 years ago

    One has to remember that the Bible was written by more than one author which accounts for some of the inconsistancies.  I guess they weren't into having an editor back then. smile  Also other than having multiple authors, some sections were written 25 years later and some written over a 100 after the death of Christ (don't remember the exact years).  Then you have some early Christain texts that were never included for some reason or other.  Usually considered heretical given what was going on religously, politically, etc.  I am not religous but the Bible is a great piece of written stories with valuable lessons and some factual history.  Though I have read many of the other text that were never included which for me makes that whole period a lot more interesting historically and theoretically.

    1. Daniel Carter profile image92
      Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      But with all due respect, if God is the Word, and he is consistent, he should have inspired all these writers to be consistent, no?

      Still isn't adding up. But in the context of historical occurance, your point is well made.

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        This is a response to mkott, couldnt find his post to quote? Anyway, I actually AGREE that the bible is a fantastic book of wisdom, with some very entertaining and enjoyable parts. I am not being critical of error or contradiction, I am being critical of those that live their lives from that book; using it as a 24/7 instruction manual, whilst being in complete denial about its inaccuracies.

      2. Valerie F profile image60
        Valerie Fposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        A complete lack of discrepancies indicates collusion or tampering with the testimony of independent witnesses.

        Also, the Bible wouldn't make for as exciting an anthology without the variety of literature included in it.

        Finally, I understand how there doesn't have to be any contradiction between being peaceful and being a warrior. To prefer to bring peace but to also be willing and able deal with conflict however and only if it's necessary is a godly characteristic not just according to the monotheistic faiths. It is considered beneficial in Shinto and some Buddhist traditions.

        1. nicomp profile image60
          nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          very lucid. Let's see how the atheists spin it; Ad hominem attack, no references provided, used an English word that someone else used previously on the Internet...

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Well we are all English speakers, and Im sure that there are no English words that have not previously been used on the internet, so I dont really understand where you are coming from with that one.

        2. Daniel Carter profile image92
          Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Very good points, indeed. But for me personally, it's all too broad and leaves a remarkable number of loopholes and escape points so that no one can really be tacked down to a specific thing. Murder/forgive-let live. Rape/sexual abstinence, etc., etc. It's all there and it's all justified. Just depends on the interpreter, which in our day, I think are clergy. Thus so many sects.

          I guess I can see this broad thinking in a case by case basis, but if that's so, then why were there commandments given that should apply in all instances? I'm making a rhetorical comment, really. Not asking for an answer.

          Still not adding up for me.

          Seems that the Bible is a set of writings about an awareness of who God is, but that awareness is highly individualized and convoluted with much self justification per circumstance.

          1. Valerie F profile image60
            Valerie Fposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Actually, rape and murder are never justified in the Bible, and all come with penalties. There may be forgiveness of sins, but forgiveness doesn't mean a complete suspension or removal of temporal consequences.

            1. nicomp profile image60
              nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You're really good. I know that for 2 reasons; the atheists haven't attacked you and you make your points without attacking them. Well done.

              1. tantrum profile image60
                tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  lol lol  Are you sure? Mark attacks her all the time. lol Don't talk if you don't know big_smile

                1. nicomp profile image60
                  nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I don't consider troll attacks.

                2. Valerie F profile image60
                  Valerie Fposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  And to be perfectly fair, I admit that I called Mark "Grendel." Probably shouldn't have done that, particularly since he and I might get on much better if we stuck with discussing a less hot-button topic- like gazpacho. (Having that for lunch, and loving it!)

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        cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        my sediments exactly (deliberate malapropism).

        if the Holy Bible is indeed the Word of God, then these 'writers' were not writers at all, but transcribers of His Word, putting it down in some medium so that it could be shared with the world. since word processors, tape recorders or even dictaphones didn't exist yet, God used these people to 'get The Word' out, so to speak.

        which forces bibliophiles to find some other reason to account for the numerous, glaring inconsitencies in the Bible, instead of blaming it on human error.

        of course it would have been much easier if God would have just caused gigantic HD telescreens to appear all over the world, broadcasting his commandments, parables, lessons and whatnot. he is the Almighty and can do anything. or he could have even used a less-glamorous approach and simply abracadabra'd a bible in every dwelling in the world, and maybe put a glowing autograph in each one, and made it of some indestructable material, with pictures in it that moved and talked.

        that would certainly convince anyone that this was the work of God Almighty.

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago

    Back to the sex forum everyone

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      rednckwmnposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      typical, I think its over now. Everyone is smoking a ciggarette....

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago

    you seem to be arguing for the sake of it are you/??????

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  10. atomswifey profile image68
    atomswifeyposted 7 years ago

    Ryan wrote: That is why what? That is just a sentence, what does it mean?

    In relation to what Mark told you:
    Ryan - now you know why they used to feed them to the lions

    The reason why is
    Matthew 24:9
    "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh ok I get it, they were fed to the lions because they hated Christians. Now, why hasn't white Christian middle America learnt to stop persecuting athiests and liberals? I have driven through three states in America without being able to buy an alcoholic drink. The first time I ever heard the word 'wine' was at Sunday school. Would Jesus be a bit pissed off if he was resurected in America and couldnt get a glass of red?

      1. atomswifey profile image68
        atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        LOL
        No, He would just pick up a bottle of Evian make His own. lol

      2. nicomp profile image60
        nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Slow day for you, yes?

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          ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Actually this comment was meant in Jest, even AW got that.....

    2. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Now now AW - I know you are encouraged to lie by your book, but please do not go putting words in my mouth.

      1. atomswifey profile image68
        atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'm not. You said that in response to what the believers were posting in here. You sarcastically remarked that this was why they fed us to lions. And I agreed with you. smile

        You just have happened upon one instance where you and the Bible connect in belief. smile

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes you are - you have completely misunderstood my meaning. Which comes as no surprise really.

          They fed you to the lions for a completely different reason. wink

          1. atomswifey profile image68
            atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Ohhh I see so you were telling Ryan they fed us to lions because the early christians were posting things contrary to the beliefs of others on hubpages then?

            Ok ok I get it now
            my bad

            christians were persecuted for their beliefs, period. It was Christianity the belief in Christ, the spreading of His gospel, of His message that got them fed to lions.
            And you obviously think this was a justifiable then? They had a good reason or excuse to do this?
            Nice Mark, real nice. Now go on and keep "preaching" how very anti-violent you are, maybe you might even convince yourself one day, who knows.

            1. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              No, no - still nowhere near what I meant. I will even cut out the sarcastic personal attack that you just made because you "love" me so much. wink

              1. atomswifey profile image68
                atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Personal attack? Oh come on Mark, you are reaching there.
                I think for one to cite that christians were in fact fed to lions and inferencing that it was because of how we in this forum are bahaving or illustrating Gods word, I would say you are correct.

                And if you had not meaning to that whatsoever, then please explain and clarify yourself in those which could be taken as, "threatening" remarks.

                1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                  Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I don't even understand this. Maybe you should cut and paste some one else's writing after all.

              2. Daniel Carter profile image92
                Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Mark, you are so incorrigible. smile Thou art a stinker. And I you make me laugh even when I don't want to....

                But there is such good company among sinners, yes?

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              ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Christians have been persecuted, and yet they themselves have persecuted, period. Every religion, and indeed non-religion, can claim persecution.

              1. Misha profile image75
                Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                But some can claim more than others lol

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                  ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Well Christians dont even come close to the top of that league, at least not in modern times. Im not great on my history, but im pretty sure that the Jews are way ahead on that one.... and then you have the Buddhists of Tibet being suppressed, and now.... ironically..... it is the islamic palistinians that much of the world believes are being persecuted. I cant think of a single thing which would make me put the words "Christian" and "Persecuted" together?

                  What were you thinking Misha?

                  1. Misha profile image75
                    Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I don't see much persecution of Christians nowadays, except for a few missionaries being eaten here and there, which really does not surprise me much after meeting some participants of HP religious forums. big_smile

                    Coming back to Roman times, I do think Senkevich likely was right and that period was awful for Christians. but then they got a revenge in middle ages, with crusades, witch hunting, and such. On balance I would guess they killed and tortured way more people than they suffered themselves, but don't take my word for it, I did not really do any serious research on the matter. smile

                  2. atomswifey profile image68
                    atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I would beg to differ:

                    http://www.christiantoday.com/article/m … /21306.htm

                    http://www.news24.com/Content/World/New … d_in_India

                    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27180256/

                    http://chinaview.wordpress.com/2007/09/ … ince-2000/

                    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h … 94619ED7CF

                    And the list goes on with articles about christians murdered in
                    Iraq
                    Turkey
                    Africa

                    Just google it this way
                    Christians killed in
                    and don't hit the enter key, or scroll just look at the list google provides

                    No young one, I am sure Christian persecution is still very active today, sadly and unfortunately.

  11. atomswifey profile image68
    atomswifeyposted 7 years ago

    How can the truth which is presented in the scriptures themselves be construed as not my own truth when I cite them very clearly.

    I am not going to flood of course the forum with links to other sites.
    I made MY points through them and as is evident by you posting the links the answers (links) are not hard to find, now are they?

    Keep distracting away from the truth.
    Better scream and shout while you are at it! Wave a banner or two as well!

    And might I add, that just where do you think Ryan got his "contradictions" from?......

    yeah.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol

      The truth is - you steal other people's writing and try to pass it off as your own. And you are the one doing the shouting.....

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      wordscribe41posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Wow, calm down.  No screaming and shouting necessary here.  Quotations and 2 links is hardly "flooding the forums" either.  Just put it in your own words, that's all.

      1. nicomp profile image60
        nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        With all due respect, why can't you address her points rather than insisting that she rewrite them?

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          wordscribe41posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          With all due respect, they're not her points.  smile

          1. nicomp profile image60
            nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Uncle.

            1. Misha profile image75
              Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              And what's the deal with "uncle"? What does it mean in this context?

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                ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Dont worry Misha, I dont understand that either.... its not your language barrier, it just doesnt make sense wink

                1. Misha profile image75
                  Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Well, you are Brit, and this must be some American slang. Just genuinely interested to learn smile

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                    Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    It is the christian way of saying you are a bully.

              2. nicomp profile image60
                nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                It's what kids make each other say on the playground when they are bullying. The bully twists your arm behind your back and says "Say uncle". It means "I give up."

                I don't know the taxonomy.

                1. Misha profile image75
                  Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Thanks smile

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                    ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Yeh thanks over here too nicomp.... thats a new bit of knowledge for me too. I dont think that it will catch on over here though.... so im not going to bust that out in a sentence.

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                  rednckwmnposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  sorry, I know I could google, but what is taxonomy?
                  very good description of uncle. Did you ever play uncle, with knuckle bashing and all? You would hit each other in the hands, with fists, 'till you both were bleeding, and somebody had to "cry uncle". whoever did not cry uncle, was the winner. Its just a thing, about not giving up. If you cry uncle, it means your done. the other person is either winning, or unreasonable, beyond belief. I also think it has to do with another thread.

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                wordscribe41posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                An acronym?  Say what?  I'm an aunt, actually.  smile  Nevermind, I saw Nicomp's response.

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            'With all due respect' is the phrase that I use far too many times, do you normally use that phrase nicomp or have you picked up my bad habits?

            1. nicomp profile image60
              nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              No, I meant it.

              1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                lol

                With all due respect - it seems to are just here to. no - I cannot do it. As I have tried to explain to you religionists before.

                My personal ethics do not allow me to start with "With all due respect," and then go on to start a fight. I know, I know, that is the christian way - but still.

                And you wonder why you get fed to the lions.

                Ask and ye shall receive. wink

                1. rmcrayne profile image95
                  rmcrayneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Maybe my perspective on “With all due respect…” is tainted because of my 20 years of active duty military service.  This is what you say to a more ranking officer when you’re going to counterpoint or disagree.  To me, saying “with all due respect…” translates in my head to “I’m about to say something potentially disrespectful here, BUT I do recognize that you outrank me (and can totally f*&#* me up for saying this if you want to)”.

                  1. atomswifey profile image68
                    atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    LOL
                    lol
                    You are too funny and sooo right!

                    Not meaning any disrespect to nicomp as I truly believe they were being sincere in saying it.

  12. nicomp profile image60
    nicompposted 7 years ago

    I used to think health care topics bought out the most trolls.

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    rednckwmnposted 7 years ago

    why is this in the knowledge exchange forum? did religion get full?

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL I did not notice lol

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        rednckwmnposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        you just got called a flirt, and a spammer, on the "person above" thread.  lol  forums are wierd today....

  14. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    off to check LOL

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      rednckwmnposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      ok. smile

  15. frogdropping profile image86
    frogdroppingposted 7 years ago

    I bet God's ears are well burning. I don't think he's been such a hot topic since Adam turned to Eve and said:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uJkY7ltdXAE/R8hUi6i87UI/AAAAAAAAAIo/UOlbqBGOlxg/s320/adam+and+eve.jpg
    ' ... you know what God said about eating the bloody apple ... '

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    Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

    Did I read that right? Did Tantrum say Criss Angel? I LOVE that guy!

  17. Lady_E profile image82
    Lady_Eposted 7 years ago

    Crickey.  5 hours - 137 Posts.

    What is it with Religion?

    I'm not commenting but its certainly interesting to read.  smile

  18. Valerie F profile image60
    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    The persecution of Christians as of most other religious groups is actually quite well-documented- in the case of Christians, dating back as far as the first century AD/CE Roman Empire.

    You also tried to bring up several other points not related to that at all which I tried to address.

    And it seems you ignored the point I made that claiming to follow a religion is not the same as actually following it. Real religious devotion is proven by whether or not. The Qu'ran prohibits murder and suicide. Therefore anyone who believes murder and suicide is commendable as opposed to condemnable is not following the Qu'ran. The New Testament makes it clear that the Jews hold a very special place in salvation history. It also maintains strict prohibitions not only against murder and suicide, but even of entertaining murderous thoughts. So anyone who thinks it's okay to murder Jews and then kill himself obviously is not in agreement with Christianity, no matter what he says.

    "Faith without works is dead." Anyone can flap their jaws about faith, but it doesn't mean a thing. Actions prove it.

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    thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago

    Weak! I don't have all day to argue with people who are so violently opposed to the gospel refuse to believe the bible is the truth word of God.


    http://www.bible.ca/b-alleged-bible-con … efuted.htm

    http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-bible-c … efuted.htm

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-ans … ng-critics

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhz-TpnYEEc

    http://www.eroticliberty.com/article31.htm

    Bible "Contradictions" EPIC Fail! Nice Nonbelievers

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh yeah?  Could you prove it without the bible?  sad  EPIC fail! Nice Believers. 

      lol

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      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
      GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.

      GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
      GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

      GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
      GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

      GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
      GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

      GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
      GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

      GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
      LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth which, in effect, makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son.)

      GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
      GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.
      (Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience.)

      GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses.
      EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of Moses.

      GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit.
      GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years.

      GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil.
      HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil.

      GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's.
      2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.

      GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is.
      PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

      GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
      EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
      EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
      LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
      NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
      2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
      EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown down by him."
      2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is love.
      GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

      GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the presence of the Lord.
      JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God fills heaven and earth.

      GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood.
      GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood.
      NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.

      GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind.
      NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind.

      GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken, and are taken, aboard Noah's Ark.
      GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken (and are taken) aboard the Ark.

      GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
      JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.
      LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous.
      JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective).
      1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).
      RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous.

      GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark.
      GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?).

      GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
      PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord.

      GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
      1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.

      GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah.
      LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.

      GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
      GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
      GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

      GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
      EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God's face and live. No one has ever seen him.

      GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.
      GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.

      GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38, NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial offerings.
      JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing.

      GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22 Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
      HE 11:17 Abraham had only one son.

      GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK 1:37 God is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with (or for) God.
      JG 1:19 Although God was with Judah, together they could not defeat the plainsmen because the latter had iron chariots.

      GE 17:7, 10-11 The covenant of circumcision is to be everlasting.
      GA 6:15 It is of no consequence.

      GE 17:8 God promises Abraham the land of Canaan as an "everlasting possession."
      GE 25:8, AC 7:2-5, HE 11:13 Abraham died with the promise unfulfilled.

      GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings.
      LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.

      GE 18:20-21 God decides to "go down" to see what is going on.
      PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

      GE 19:30-38 While he is drunk, Lot's two daughters "lie with him," become pregnant, and give birth to his offspring.
      2PE 2:7 Lot was "just" and "righteous."

      GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
      JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt).
      1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations.
      JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.

      GE 27:28 "May God give you ... an abundance of grain and new wine."
      DT 7:13 If they follow his commandments, God will bless the fruit of their wine.
      PS 104:15 God gives us wine to gladden the heart.
      JE 13:12 "... every bottle shall be filled with wine."
      JN 2:1-11 According to the author of John, Jesus' first miracle was turning water to wine.
      RO 14:21 It is good to refrain from drinking wine.

      GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called Jacob no longer; henceforth his name is Israel.
      GE 46:2 At a later time, God himself uses the name Jacob.

      GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz.
      GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz.
      1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi, Gatam, Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek.

      GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
      RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.)

      GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite.
      AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem, bought from the sons of Hamor.

      EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of Moses.
      NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses.

      EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to plunder their enemies.
      EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits stealing, defrauding, or robbing a neighbor.

      EX 4:11 God decides who will be dumb, deaf, blind, etc.
      2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love.

      EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle (including horses) belonging to the Egyptians.
      EX 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are afflicted with boils.
      EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of the cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed.
      EX 14:9 After having all their cattle destroyed, then afflicted with boils, and then their first-born cattle destroyed, the Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback.

      EX 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "pass over" them.
      PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from God.

      EX 12:37, NU 1:45-46 The number of men of military age who take part in the Exodus is given as more than 600,000. Allowing for women, children, and older men would probably mean that a total of about 2,000,000 Israelites left Egypt.
      1KI 20:15 All the Israelites, including children, number only 7000 at a later time.

      EX 15:3, 17:16, NU 25:4, 32:14, IS 42:13 God is a man of war--he is fierce and angry.
      RO 15:33, 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love and peace.

      EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to Moses (without using an intermediary).
      GA 3:19 The law was ordained through angels by a mediator (an intermediary).

      EX 20:4 God prohibits the making of any graven images whatsoever.
      EX 25:18 God enjoins the making of two graven images.

      EX 20:5, 34:7, NU 14:18, DT 5:9, IS 14:21-22 Children are to suffer for their parent's sins.
      DT 24:16, EZ 18:19-20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.

      EX 20:8-11, 31:15-17, 35:1-3 No work is to be done on the Sabbath, not even lighting a fire. The commandment is permanent, and death is required for infractions.
      MK 2:27-28 Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath (after his disciples were criticized for breaking the Sabbath).
      RO 14:5, CN 2:14-16 Paul says the Sabbath commandment was temporary, and to decide for yourself regarding its observance.

      EX 20:12, DT 5:16, MT 15:4, 19:19, MK 7:10, 10:19, LK 18:20 Honor your father and your mother is one of the ten commandments. It is reinforced by Jesus.
      MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26 Jesus says that he has come to divide families; that a man's foes will be those of his own household; that you must hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and even your own life to be a disciple.
      MT 23:9 Jesus says to call no man on earth your father.

      EX 20:13, DT 5:17, MK 10:19, LK 18:20, RO 13:9, JA 2:11 God prohibits killing.
      GE 34:1-35:5 God condones trickery and killing.
      EX 32:27, DT 7:2, 13:15, 20:1-18 God orders killing.
      2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord slaughters 185,000 men.
      (Note: See Atrocities section for many more examples.)

      EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery.
      HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife of harlotry."

      EX 21:23-25, LE 24:20, DT 19:21 A life for a life, an eye for an eye, etc.
      MT 5:38-44, LK 6:27-29 Turn the other cheek. Love your enemies.

      EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing of the innocent.
      NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26, 8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20, JG 11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God orders or approves the complete extermination of groups of people which include innocent women and/or children.
      (Note: See Atrocities section for many other examples of the killing of innocents.)

      EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
      NU 14:30 God breaks his promise.

      EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
      1KI 22:21-23 God condones a spirit of deception.

      EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
      2TH 2:11-12 God deludes people, making them believe what is false, so as to be able to condemn them. (Note: some versions use the word persuade here. The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)

      EX 34:6-7, JS 24:19, 1CH 16:34 God is faithful, holy and good.
      IS 45:6-7, LA 3:8, AM 3:6 God is responsible for evil.

      EX 34:6-7, HE 9:27 God remembers sin, even when it has been forgiven.
      JE 31:34 God does not remember sin when it has been forgiven.

      LE 3:17 God himself prohibits forever the eating of blood and fat.
      MT 15:11, CN 2:20-22 Jesus and Paul say that such rules don't matter--they are only human injunctions.

      LE 19:18, MT 22:39 Love your neighbor [as much as] yourself.
      1CO 10:24 Put your neighbor ahead of yourself.

      LE 21:10 The chief priest is not to rend his clothes.
      MT 26:65, MK 14:63 He does so during the trial of Jesus.

      LE 25:37, PS 15:1, 5 It is wrong to lend money at interest.
      MT 25:27, LK 19:23-27 It is wrong to lend money without interest.

      NU 11:33 God inflicts sickness.
      JB 2:7 Satan inflicts sickness.

      NU 15:24-28 Sacrifices can, in at least some case, take away sin.
      HE 10:11 They never take away sin.

      NU 25:9 24,000 died in the plague.
      1CO 10:8 23,000 died in the plague.

      NU 30:2 God enjoins the making of vows (oaths).
      MT 5:33-37 Jesus forbids doing so, saying that they arise from evil (or the Devil).

      NU 33:38 Aaron died on Mt. Hor.
      DT 10:6 Aaron died in Mosera.

      NU 33:41-42 After Aaron's death, the Israelites journeyed from Mt. Hor, to Zalmonah, to Punon, etc.
      DT 10:6-7 It was from Mosera, to Gudgodah, to Jotbath.

      DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21 God is sometimes angry.
      MT 5:22 Anger is a sin.

      DT 7:9-10 God destroys his enemies.
      MT 5:39-44 Do not resist your enemies. Love them.

      DT 18:20-22 A false prophet is one whose words do not come true. Death is required.
      EZ 14:9 A prophet who is deceived, is deceived by God himself. Death is still required.

      DT 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord.
      IS 56:4-5 Some castrates will receive special rewards.

      DT 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord.
      MT 19:12 Men are encouraged to consider making themselves castrates for the sake of the Kingdom of God.

      DT 24:1-5 A man can divorce his wife simply because she displeases him and both he and his wife can remarry.
      MK 10:2-12 Divorce is wrong, and to remarry is to commit adultery.

      DT 24:16, 2KI 14:6, 2CH 25:4, EZ 18:20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.
      RO 5:12, 19, 1CO 15:22 Death is passed to all men by the sin of Adam.

      DT 30:11-20 It is possible to keep the law.
      RO 3:20-23 It is not possible to keep the law.

      JS 11:20 God shows no mercy to some.
      LK 6:36, JA 5:11 God is merciful.

      JG 4:21 Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him.
      JG 5:25-27 Sisera was standing.

      JS 10:38-40 Joshua himself captured Debir.
      JG 1:11-15 It was Othniel, who thereby obtained the hand of Caleb's daughter, Achsah.

      1SA 8:2-22 Samuel informs God as to what he has heard from others.
      PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees and hears everything.

      1SA 9:15-17 The Lord tells Samuel that Saul has been chosen to lead the Israelites and will save them from the Philistines.
      1SA 15:35 The Lord is sorry that he has chosen Saul.
      1SA 31:4-7 Saul commits suicide and the Israelites are overrun by the Philistines.

      1SA 15:7-8, 20 The Amalekites are utterly destroyed.
      1SA 27:8-9 They are utterly destroyed (again?).
      1SA 30:1, 17-18 They raid Ziklag and David smites them (again?).

      1SA 16:10-11, 17:12 Jesse had seven sons plus David, or eight total.
      1CH 2:13-15 He had seven total.

      1SA 16:19-23 Saul knew David well before the latter's encounter with Goliath.
      1SA 17:55-58 Saul did not know David at the time of his encounter with Goliath and had to ask about David's identity.

      1SA 17:50 David killed Goliath with a slingshot.
      1SA 17:51 David killed Goliath (again?) with a sword.

      1SA 17:50 David killed Goliath.
      2SA 21:19 Elhanan killed Goliath. (Note: Some translations insert the words "the brother of" before Elhanan. These are an addition to the earliest manuscripts in an apparent attempt to rectify this inconsistency.)

      1SA 21:1-6 Ahimalech was high priest when David ate the bread.
      MK 2:26 Abiathar was high priest at the time.

      1SA 28:6 Saul inquired of the Lord, but received no answer.
      1CH 10:13-14 Saul died for not inquiring of the Lord.

      1SA 31:4-6 Saul killed himself by falling on his sword.
      2SA 1:2-10 Saul, at his own request, was slain by an Amalekite.
      2SA 21:12 Saul was killed by the Philistines on Gilboa.
      1CH 10:13-14 Saul was slain by God.

      2SA 6:23 Michal was childless.
      2SA 21:8 (KJV) She had five sons.

      2SA 24:1 The Lord inspired David to take the census.
      1CH 21:1 Satan inspired the census.

      2SA 24:9 The census count was: Israel 800,000 and Judah 500,000.
      1CH 21:5 The census count was: Israel 1,100,000 and Judah 470,000.

      2SA 24:10-17 David sinned in taking the census.
      1KI 15:5 David's only sin (ever) was in regard to another matter.

      2SA 24:24 David paid 50 shekels of silver for the purchase of a property.
      1CH 21:22-25 He paid 600 shekels of gold.

      1KI 3:12 God made Solomon the wisest man that ever lived, yet ....
      1KI 11:1-13 Solomon loved many foreign women (against God's explicit prohibition) who turned him to other gods (for which he deserved death).

      1KI 3:12, 4:29, 10:23-24, 2CH 9:22-23 God made Solomon the wisest king and the wisest man that ever lived. There never has been nor will be another like him.
      MT 12:42, LK 11:31 Jesus says: "... now one greater than Solomon is here."

      1KI 4:26 Solomon had 40,000 horses (or stalls for horses).
      2CH 9:25 He had 4,000 horses (or stalls for horses).

      1KI 5:16 Solomon had 3,300 supervisors.
      2CH 2:2 He had 3,600 supervisors.

      1KI 7:15-22 The two pillars were 18 cubits high.
      2CH 3:15-17 They were 35 cubits high.

      1KI 7:26 Solomon's "molten sea" held 2000 "baths" (1 bath = about 8 gallons).
      2CH 4:5 It held 3000 "baths."

      1KI 8:12, 2CH 6:1, PS 18:11 God dwells in thick darkness.
      1TI 6:16 God dwells in unapproachable light.

      1KI 8:13, AC 7:47 Solomon, whom God made the wisest man ever, built his temple as an abode for God.
      AC 7:48-49 God does not dwell in temples built by men.

      1KI 9:28 420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.
      2CH 8:18 450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.

      1KI 15:14 Asa did not remove the high places.
      2CH 14:2-3 He did remove them.

      1KI 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign.
      2CH 16:1 Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign.

      1KI 16:23 Omri became king in the thirty-first year of Asa's reign and he reigned for a total of twelve years.
      1KI 16:28-29 Omri died, and his son Ahab became king in the thirty- eighth year of Asa's reign. (Note: Thirty-one through thirty-eight equals a reign of seven or eight years.)

      1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, 2TH 2:11 God himself causes a lying spirit.
      PR 12:22 God abhors lying lips and delights in honesty.

      1KI 22:42-43 Jehoshaphat did not remove the high places.
      2CH 17:5-6 He did remove them.

      2KI 2:11 Elijah went up to heaven.
      JN 3:13 Only the Son of Man (Jesus) has ever ascended to heaven.
      2CO 12:2-4 An unnamed man, known to Paul, went up to heaven and came back.
      HE 11:5 Enoch was translated to heaven.

      2KI 4:32-37 A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus).
      MT 9:18-25, JN 11:38-44 Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself).
      AC 26:23 Jesus was the first to rise from the dead.

      2KI 8:25-26 Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began his reign.
      2CH 22:2 He was 42 when he began his reign.
      [Note: Some translations use "twenty-two" here in an attempt to rectify this discrepancy. The Hebrew is clear, however, that 2CH 22:2 is 42. The Hebrew words involved are Strong's H705 and H8147, "forty" and "two," respectively.]

      2KI 9:27 Jehu shot Ahaziah near Ibleam. Ahaziah fled to Meggido and died there.
      2CH 22:9 Ahaziah was found hiding in Samaria, brought to Jehu, and put to death.

      2KI 16:5 The King of Syria and the son of the King of Israel did not conquer Ahaz.
      2CH 28:5-6 They did conquer Ahaz.

      2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) was eighteen years old when he began to reign.
      2CH 36:9 He was eight.
      (Note: This discrepancy has been "corrected" in some versions.)

      2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) reigned three months.
      2CH 36:9 He reigned three months and ten days.

      2KI 24:17 Jehoiachin (Jehoaikim) was succeeded by his uncle.
      2CH 36:10 He was succeeded by his brother.

      1CH 3:11-13 The lineage is: Joram, Ahaziah, Joash, Amaziah, Azariah, Jotham.
      MT 1:8-9 It is: Joram, Uzziah, Jotham, etc.

      1CH 3:19 Pedaiah was the father of Zerubbabel.
      ER 3:2 Shealtiel was the father of Zerubbabel.

      2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 There is no injustice or partiality with the Lord.
      RO 9:15-18 God has mercy on (and hardens the hearts of) whom he pleases.

      ER 2:3-64 (Gives the whole congregation as 42,360 while the actual sum of the numbers is about 30,000.)

      JB 2:3-6, 21:7-13, 2TI 3:12 The godly are persecuted and chastised but the wicked grow old, wealthy, and powerful, unchastised by God.
      PS 55:23, 92:12-14, PR 10:2-3, 27-31, 12:2, 21 The lives of the wicked are cut short. The righteous flourish and obtain favor from the Lord.

      PS 10:1 God cannot be found in time of need. He is "far off."
      PS 145:18 God is near to all who call upon him in truth.

      PS 22:1-2 God sometimes forsakes his children. He does not answer.
      PS 46:1 God is a refuge, a strength, a very present help.

      PS 30:5, JE 3:12, MI 7:18 God's anger does not last forever.
      JE 17:4, MT 25:46 It does last forever. (He has provided for eternal punishment.)

      PS 58:10-11 The righteous shall rejoice when he sees vengeance.
      PR 24:16-18 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls or stumbles.

      PS 78:69, EC 1:4, 3:14 The earth was established forever.
      PS 102:25-26, MT 24:35, MK 13:31, LK 21:33, HE 1:10-11, 2PE 3:10 The earth will someday perish.

      PR 3:13, 4:7, 19:8, JA 1:5 Happy is the man who finds wisdom. Get wisdom.
      LK 2:40, 52 Jesus was filled with wisdom and found favor with God.
      1CO 1:19-25, 3:18-20 Wisdom is foolishness.

      PR 12:2, RO 8:28 A good man obtains favor from the Lord.
      2TI 3:12, HE 12:6 The godly will be persecuted.

      PR 14:8 The wisdom of a prudent man is to discern his way.
      MT 6:25-34 Take no thought for tomorrow. God will take care of you.

      PR 14:15-18 The simple believe everything and acquire folly; the prudent look where they are going and are crowned with knowledge.
      MT 18:3, LK 18:17 You must believe as little children do.
      1CO 1:20, 27 God has made the wisdom of the world foolish so as to shame the wise.
      PR 16:4 God made the wicked for the "day of evil."
      MT 11:25, MK 4:11-12 God and Jesus hide some things from some people.
      JN 6:65 No one can come to Jesus unless it is granted by God.
      RO 8:28-30 Some are predestined to be called to God, believe in Jesus, and be justified.
      RO 9:15-18 God has mercy on, and hardens the hearts of, whom he pleases.
      2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked so as to be able to condemn them.
      1TI 2:3-4, 2PE 3:9 [Yet] God wants all to be saved.

      PR 8:13, 16:6 It is the fear of God that keeps men from evil.
      1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love. Perfect love drives out fear.
      1JN 5:2, 2JN 1:6 Those who love God keep his commandments.

      PR 26:4 Do not answer a fool. To do so makes you foolish too.
      PR 26:5 Answer a fool. If you don't, he will think himself wise.

      PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
      JE 8:8 The scribes falsify the word of God.
      JE 20:7, EZ 14:9, 2TH 2:11-12 God himself deceives people.
      (Note: Some versions translate deceive as "persuade." The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)

      IS 3:13 God stands to judge.
      JL 3:12 He sits to judge.

      IS 44:24 God created heaven and earth alone.
      JN 1:1-3 Jesus took part in creation.

      IS 53:9 Usually taken to be a prophecy re: Jesus, mentions burial with others.
      MT 27:58-60, MK 15:45-46, LK 23:52-53, JN 19:38-42 Jesus was buried by himself.

      JE 12:13 Some sow wheat but reap thorns.
      MI 6:15 Some sow but won't reap anything.
      MT 25:26, LK 19:22 Some reap without sowing.
      2CO 9:6, GA 6:7 A man reaps what he sows.

      JE 32:18 God shows love to thousands, but brings punishment for the sins of their fathers to many children.
      2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love.

      JE 34:4-5 Zedekiah was to die in peace.
      JE 52:10-11 Instead, Zedekaih's sons are slain before his eyes, his eyes are then put out, he is bound in fetters, taken to Babylon and left in prison to die.

      EZ 20:25-26 The law was not good. The sacrifice of children was for the purpose of horrifying the people so that they would know that God is Lord.
      RO 7:12, 1TI 1:8 The law is good.

      EZ 26:15-21 God says that Tyre will be destroyed and will never be found again.
      (Nebudchanezzar failed to capture or destroy Tyre. It is still inhabited.)

      DN 5:1 (Gives the title of "king" to Belshazzar although Belshazzar was actually the "viceroy.")

      DN 5:2 (Says that Nebuchadnezzar was the father of Belshazzar, but actually, Nebonidus was the father of Belshazzar.) (Note: Some versions attempt to correct this error by making the verse say that Nebuchadnezzar was the grandfather of Belshazzar.)

      ZE 11:12-13 Mentions "thirty pieces" and could possibly be thought to be connected with the Potter's Field prophesy referred to in Matthew.
      MT 27:9 Jeremiah is given as the source of the prophesy regarding the purchase of the Potter's Field. (Note: There is no such prophesy in Jeremiah.)

      MT 1:6-7 The lineage of Jesus is traced through David's son, Solomon.
      LK 3:23-31 It is traced through David's son, Nathan.
      (Note: Some apologists assert that Luke traces the lineage through Mary. That this is untrue is obvious from the context since Luke and Matthew both clearly state that Joseph was Jesus' father.)

      MT 1:16 Jacob was Joseph's father.
      LK 3:23 Heli was Joseph's father.

      MT 1:17 There were twenty-eight generations from David to Jesus.
      LK 3:23-38 There were forty-three.

      MT 1:18-21 The Annunciation occurred after Mary had conceived Jesus.
      LK 1:26-31 It occurred before conception.

      MT 1:20 The angel spoke to Joseph.
      LK 1:28 The angel spoke to Mary.

      MT 1:20-23, LK 1:26-33 An angel announces to Joseph and/or Mary that the child (Jesus) will be "great," the "son of the Most High," etc., and ....
      MT 3:13-17, MK 1:9-11 The baptism of Jesus is accompanied by the most extraordinary happenings, yet ....
      MK 3:21 Jesus' own relatives (or friends) attempt to constrain him, thinking that he might be out of his mind, and ....
      MK 6:4-6 Jesus says that a prophet is without honor in his own house (which certainly should not have been the case considering the Annunciation and the Baptism).

      MT 1:23 He will be called Emmanuel (or Immanuel).
      MT 1:25 Instead, he was called Jesus.

      MT 2:13-16 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt, (where they stay until after Herod's death) in order to avoid the murder of their firstborn by Herod. Herod slaughters all male infants two years old and under. (Note: John the Baptist, Jesus' cousin, though under two is somehow spared without fleeing to Egypt.)
      LK 2:22-40 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remain in the area of Jerusalem for the Presentation (about forty days) and then return to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. There is no slaughter of the infants.

      MT 2:23 "And he went and lived in a town called Nazareth. So was fulfilled what was said through the prophets: He will be called a Nazarene.'" (This prophecy is not found in the OT and while Jesus is often referred to as "Jesus of Nazareth", he is seldom referred to as "Jesus the Nazarene.")

      MT 3:11-14, JN 1:31-34 John realized the true identity of Jesus (as the Messiah) either prior to the actual Baptism, or from the Baptism onward. The very purpose of John's baptism was to reveal Jesus to Israel.
      MT 11:2-3 After the Baptism, John sends his disciples to ask if Jesus is the Messiah.

      MT 3:12, 13:42 Hell is a furnace of fire (and must therefore be light).
      MT 8:12, 22:13, 25:30 Hell is an "outer darkness" (and therefore dark).

      MT 3:16, MK 1:10 It was Jesus who saw the Spirit descending.
      JN 1:32 It was John who saw the Spirit descending.

      MT 3:17 The heavenly voice addressed the crowd: "This is my beloved Son."
      MK 1:11, LK 3:22 The voice addressed Jesus: "You are my beloved Son...."

      MT 4:1-11, MK 1:12-13 Immediately following his Baptism, Jesus spent forty days in the wilderness resisting temptation by the Devil.
      JN 2:1-11 Three days after the Baptism, Jesus was at the wedding in Cana.

      MT 4:5-8 The Devil took Jesus to the pinnacle of the temple, then to the mountain top.
      LK 4:5-9 First to the mountain top, then to the pinnacle of the temple.

      MT 4:18-20, MK 1:16-18 (One story about choosing Peter as a disciple.)
      LK 5:2-11 (A different story.)
      JN 1:35-42 (Still another story.)

      MT 5:1 - 7:29 Jesus delivers his most noteworthy sermon while on the mount.
      LK 6:17-49 Jesus delivers his most noteworthy sermon while on the plain. (Note: No such sermons are mentioned in either MK or JN and Paul seems totally unfamiliar with either the sermon on the mount or the sermon on the plain.)

      MT 5:16 Good works should be seen.
      MT 6:1-4 They should be kept secret.

      MT 5:17-19, LK 16:17 Jesus underscores the permanence of the law.
      LE 10:8 - 11:47, DT 14:3-21 The law distinguishes between clean and unclean foods.
      MK 7:14-15, MK 7:18-19 Jesus says that there is no such distinction.
      1TI 4:1-4 All foods are clean according to Paul.

      MT 5:17-19, LK 16:17 Jesus did not come to abolish the law.
      EP 2:13-15, HE 7:18-19 Jesus did abolish the law.

      MT 5:22 Anyone who calls another a fool is liable to Hell.
      MT 7:26 Jesus says that anyone who hears his words and does not do them is a fool. (Note: The translation now prevalent, "like a foolish man," in MT 7:26 is a dishonest attempt to alleviate the obvious inconsistency here in that the oldest Greek manuscripts use the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and "like a foolish man" in MT 7:26.)
      MT 23:17-19 Jesus twice calls the Pharisees blind fools.
      MT 25:2, 3, 8 Jesus likens the maidens who took no oil to fools. (Note: This is the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and MT 23:17-19.)
      1CO 1:23, 3:18, 4:10 Paul uses "fool" with regard to Christians becoming fools for Christ. (Note: Again, this is the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and MT 23:17-19.)

      MT 5:22 Anger by itself is a sin.
      EP 4:26 Anger is not necessarily a sin.

      MT 5:22 Anger by itself is a sin.
      MT 11:22-24, LK 10:13-15 Jesus curses the inhabitants of several cities who are not sufficiently impressed with his mighty works.
      MT 21:19, MK 11:12-14 Jesus curses a fig tree when it fails to bear fruit out of season.
      MK 3:5 Jesus looks around "angrily."

      MT 5:32 Divorce, except on the grounds of unchastity, is wrong.
      MK 10:11-12 Divorce on any grounds is wrong.

      MT 5:39, MT 5:44 Jesus says: "Do not resist evil. Love your enemies."
      MT 6:15, 12:34, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 17, 19, 27, 29, 33, MK 7:6, LK 11:40, 44, 12:56 Jesus repeatedly hurls epithets at his opponents.

      MT 5:39, MT 5:44 Do not resist evil. Love your enemies.
      LK 19:27 God is likened to one who destroys his enemies.

      MT 5:39, MT 5:44 Do not resist evil. Love your enemies.
      2JN 1:9-11 Shun anyone who does not hold the proper doctrine.
      MT 5:43-44, MT 22:39 Love your enemies. Love your neighbor as yourself.
      MT 10:5 Go nowhere among the Gentiles nor enter a Samaritan town.
      JN 8:58-59 Jesus hid himself, apparently to avoid being stoned.

      MT 5:45, 7:21 God resides in heaven.
      MK 13:32 The angels reside in heaven
      AC 7:55, HE 12:2 Jesus is at the right hand of God, in heaven.
      1PE 1:3-4 Believers will inherit eternal life in heaven.
      MT 24:35, MK 13:31, LK 21:33 Heaven will pass away.

      MT 6:13 God might lead us into temptation and it is better avoided.
      JA 1:2-3 Temptation is joy.

      MT 6:13 Jesus' prayer implies that God might lead us into temptation.
      JA 1:13 God tempts no one.

      MT 6:25-34, LK 12:22-31 Take no thought for tomorrow. God will take care of you.
      1TI 5:8 A man who does not provide for his family is worse than an infidel. (Note: Providing for a family certainly involves taking "thought for tomorrow.")

      MT 7:1-2 Do not judge.
      MT 7:15-20 Instructions for judging a false prophet.

      MT 7:7-8, LK 11:9-10 Ask and it will be given. Seek and you will find.
      LK 13:24 Many will try to enter the Kingdom but will be unable.

      MT 7:21 Not everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
      AC 2:21, RO 10:13 Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
      AC 2:39 Those God calls to himself will be saved.

      MT 7:21, LK 10:36-37, RO 2:6, 13, JA 2:24 We are justified by works, not by faith.
      JN 3:16, RO 3:20-26, EP 2:8-9, GA 2:16 We are justified by faith, not by works.

      MT 8:5-12 The centurion himself approaches Jesus to ask to heal his servant.
      LK 7:2-10 The centurion sends elders to do the asking.

      MT 8:16, LK 4:40 Jesus healed all that were sick.
      MK 1:32-34 Jesus healed many (but not all).

      MT 8:28-33 Two demoniacs are healed in the Gadarene swine incident.
      MK 5:2-16, LK 8:26-36 One demoniac is healed in this incident.

      MT 9:18 The ruler's daughter was already dead when Jesus raised her.
      LK 8:42 She was dying, but not dead.

      MT 10:1-8 Jesus gives his disciples the power to exorcise and heal...
      MT 17:14-16 (Yet) the disciples are unable to do so.

      MT 10:2, MK 3:16-19 The twelve apostles (disciples) were: Simon (Peter), Andrew his brother, James the son of Zebedee, John his brother, Philip, Bartholemew, Thomas, Matthew the tax collector, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus (Labbaeus), Simon, and Judas Iscariot.
      LK 6:13-16 The above except that Thaddaeus (Labbaeus) is excluded, and Judas the son of James is added (and Judas Iscariot remains).
      AC 1:13, 26 Same as MT and MK except that, like LK Thaddaeus (Labbaeus) is excluded, Judas the son of James is included, and Mathias is chosen by the others to replace Judas Iscariot.

      MT 10:2, 5-6 Peter was to be an apostle to the Jews and not go near the Gentiles.
      AC 15:7 He was an apostle to the Gentiles.

      MT 10:10 Do not take sandals (shoes) or staves.
      MK 6:8-9 Take sandals (shoes) and staves.

      MT 10:34, LK 12:49-53 Jesus has come to bring a sword, fire, and division--not peace.
      JN 16:33 Jesus says: "In me you have peace."

      MT 10:22, 24:13, MK 13:13 He that endures to the end will be saved.
      MK 16:16 He that believes and is baptized will be saved.
      JN 3:5 Only he that is born of water and Spirit will be saved.
      AC 16:31 He that believes on the Lord Jesus will be saved.
      AC 2:21 He that calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
      RO 10:9 He who confesses with his mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believes in his heart that God raised him from the dead will be saved.
      1JN 4:7 He who loves is born of God (and presumably will be saved.)

      MT 10:28, LK 12:4 Jesus says not to fear men. (Fear God only.)
      MT 12:15-16, JN 7:1-10, 8:59, 10:39, 11:53-54 Jesus hid, escaped, went secretly, etc.

      MT 11:7-15, 17:12-13 Jesus says that John the Baptist was a prophet, and more.
      JN 1:21 John himself says that he is not a prophet, nor is he Elijah.

      MT 11:25, MK 4:11-12 Jesus thanks God for hiding some things from the wise while revealing them to "babes." He says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain hidden to at least some persons, and specifically so that they will not turn and be forgiven.
      MK 4:22 Jesus says that all things should be made known.

      MT 11:29 Jesus says that he is gentle (meek) and humble (lowly).
      JN 2:15 Jesus makes a whip of cords, drives the money changers from the Temple, overturns their tables, and pours out their coins. (Note: The presence of the money changers in the outer court of the Temple had been authorized by the Temple authorities and was, in fact, a necessity since the Jews would not accept Roman coin for the purchase of sacrifices.)

      MT 12:5 Jesus says that the law (OT) states that the priests profane the Sabbath but are blameless. (No such statement is found in the OT.

      MT 12:30 Jesus says that those who are not with him are against him.
      MK 9:40 Jesus says that those who are not against him are for him.
      (Note: This puts those who are indifferent or undecided in the "for him" category in the first instance and in the "against him" category in the second instance.)

      MT 12:39, MK 8:12, LK 11:29 Jesus says that he will give no "sign."
      JN 3:2, 20:30, AC 2:22 Jesus proceeds to give many such "signs."

      MT 13:34, MK 4:34 Jesus addresses the crowds only in parables, so that they would not fully understand. He explains the meaning only to his disciples.
      JN 1:1 - 21:25 (Throughout the book of John, unlike the other Gospels, Jesus addresses the crowds in a very straightforward manner. He does not employ parables.)

      MT 13:58, MK 6:5 In spite of his faith, Jesus is not able to perform mighty miracles.
      MT 17:20, 19:26, MK 9:23, 10:27, LK 17:6, 18:27 Jesus says that anything is possible to him who believes if he has the faith of a grain of mustard seed. All things are possible with God. A mountain can be commanded to move and it will move.

      MT 5:37, 15:19, MK 7:22, JN 8:14, 44, 14:6, 18:37 Jesus says that you should answer a plain "yes" or "no," that his purpose is to bear witness to the truth, and that his testimony is true. He equates lying with evil.
      JN 7:2-10 Jesus tells his brothers that he is not going to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Tabernacles, then later goes secretly by himself. (Note: The words "not yet" were added to some versions at JN 7:8 in order to alleviate this problem. The context at JN 7:10 makes the deception clear, however.)

      MT 16:6, 11 Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
      MK 8:15 Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Herod.

      MT 16:18 Jesus founds his church on Peter and will give him the keys of the kingdom.
      MT 16:23 Jesus calls Peter [a] "Satan" and "a hindrance," and accuses him of being on the side of men rather than that of God.

      MT 16:18 Jesus founds his church on Peter and will give him the keys of the kingdom.
      AC 15:1-21 James presides over the first Council of Jerusalem and formulates the decree regarding the accepting of Gentiles which is sent to the other churches. (Note: Tradition has it that James was appointed as the first Bishop or Pope, not Peter.)

      MT 17:1-2 The Transfiguration occurs six days after Jesus foretells his suffering.
      LK 9:28-29 It takes place about eight days afterwards.

      MT 20:20-21 The mother of James and John asks Jesus a favor for her sons.
      MK 10:35-37 They ask for themselves.

      MT 20:23, MK 10:40 Jesus responds that it is not his to give.
      MT 28:18, JN 3:35 All authority has been given to Jesus.

      MT 20:29-34 Jesus heals two blind men on the way to Jericho.
      MK 10:46-52 He heals one blind man.

      MT 21:1-17 The sequence was: triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple, Bethany.
      MK 11:1-19 Triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple.
      LK 19:28-48 Triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple, daily teaching in the temple.
      JN 12:1-18 Cleansing of the temple (early in his career), Supper with Lazarus, triumphal entry, no cleansing of the temple following the triumphal entry.

      MT 21:2-6, MK 11:2-7, LK 19:30-35 The disciples follow Jesus instructions and bring him the animal (or animals, in the case of MT).
      JN 12:14 Jesus finds the animal himself.

      MT 21:7 Jesus rides two animals during his triumphal entry.
      MK 11:7, LK 19:35, JN 12:14 Only one animal is involved.

      MT 21:12-13 The cleansing of the temple occurs at the end of Jesus' career.
      JN 2:13-16 It occurs near the beginning of his career.

      MT 21:19-20 The fig tree withers immediately after being cursed by Jesus. The disciples notice and are amazed.
      MK 11:13-14, 20-21 The disciples first notice that the tree has withered the day following.

      MT 23:35 Jesus says that Zacharias (Zechariah) was the son of Barachias (Barachiah).
      2CH 24:20 Zacharias was actually the son of Jehoida, the priest.
      (Note: The name Barachias, or Barachiah, does not appear in the O.T.)

      MT 24:29-33, MK 13:24-29 The coming of the kingdom will be accompanied by signs and miracles.
      LK 17:20-21 It will not be accompanied by signs and miracles. It is already within.

      MT 25:34 Heaven was prepared before the Ascension of Jesus.
      JN 14:2-3 It was prepared after the Ascension of Jesus.

      MT 26:6-13, MK 14:3 The anointing of Jesus takes place in Bethany at the house of Simon the leper.
      LK 7:36-38 It takes place at the house of a Pharisee in Galilee.

      MT 26:7, MK 14:3 The oil is poured on Jesus' head.
      LK 7:38, JN 12:3 On his feet.

      MT 26:7, MK 14:3, LK 7:37 An unnamed woman does the anointing.
      JN 12:3 It is Mary.

      MT 28:6-8 The women ran from the tomb "with great joy."
      JN 20:1-2 Mary told Peter and the other disciple that the body had been stolen. (Would she feel "great joy" if she thought the body had been stolen?)

      MT 26:8 The disciples reproach her.
      MK 14:4 "Some" reproach her.
      JN 12:4-5 Judas Iscariot reproaches her.

      MT 26:14-25, MK 14:10-11, LK 22:3-23 Judas made his bargain with the chief priests before the meal.
      JN 13:21-30 After the meal.

      MT 26:20-29, MK 14:17-28, JN 13:21-30 Jesus forecasts his betrayal prior to the communion portion of the supper.
      LK 22:14-23 After the communion portion.

      MT 26:26-29, MK 14:22-25 The order of the communion was: bread, then wine.
      LK 22:17-20 It was: wine, then bread.

      MT 26:34, LK 22:34, JN 13:38 Peter was to deny Jesus before the cock crowed.
      MK 14:30 Before the cock crowed twice.
      MK 14:66-72 The cock crows after both the first and second denials.
      (Note: These discrepancies have been "translated out" in some Bible versions.)

      MT 26:40-45, MK 14:37-41 The disciples fall asleep three times.
      LK 22:45 One time.

      MT 26:49-50, MK 14:44-46 Jesus is betrayed by Judas with a kiss, then seized.
      LK 22:47-48 Jesus anticipates Judas' kiss. No actual kiss is mentioned.
      JN 18:2-9 Jesus voluntarily steps forward to identify himself making it completely unnecessary for Judas to point him out. No kiss is mentioned.

      MT 26:51, MK 14:47, JN 18:10 The ear of a slave is cut off and left that way.
      LK 22:50-51 The severed ear is miraculously healed by Jesus.

      MT 26:52 Dispose of swords. All who take the sword will perish by it.
      LK 22:36-38 Buy swords.

      MT 26:57, MK 14:53, LK 22:54 After his arrest Jesus is first taken to Caiphas, the high priest.
      JN 18:13-24 First to Annas, the son-in-law of Caiphas, then to Caiphas.

      MT 26:18-20, 57-68, 27:1-2, MK 14:16-18, 53-72, 15:1 Jesus' initial hearing was at night on Passover. In the morning he was taken to Pilate.
      LK 22:13-15, 54-66 The initial hearing took place in the morning on Passover.
      JN 18:28, 19:14 It took place the day before Passover, on the Day of Preparation.

      MT 26:59-66, MK 14:55-64 Jesus was tried by the entire Sanhedrin (the chief priests and the whole council).
      LK 22:66-71 There was no trial but merely an inquiry held by the Sanhedrin.
      JN 18:13-24 There was no appearance before the Sanhedrin, only the private hearings before Annas and then Caiphas.

      MT 26:63, LK 22:70 The high priest asks Jesus if he is the Son of God.
      MK 14:61 He asks Jesus if he is the Son of the Blessed.

      MT 26:64, LK 22:70 Jesus answers: "You have said so," or words to this effect.
      MK 14:62 He answers directly: "I am."

      MT 26:69-70 Peter makes his first denial to a maid and "them all."
      MK 14:66-68, LK 22:56-57, JN 18:17 It was to one maid only.

      MT 26:71-72 Peter's second denial is to still another maid.
      MK 14:69-70 (Apparently) to the same maid.
      LK 22:58 To a man, not a maid.
      JN 18:25 To more than one, "they."

      MT 26:73-74, MK 14:70-71 Peter's third denial is to bystanders (two or more).
      LK 22:59-60 To "another" (one).
      JN 18:26-27 To one of the servants.

      MT 26:74 The cock crowed once.
      MK 14:72 The cock crowed twice.

      MT 27:3-7 The chief priests bought the field.
      AC 1:16-19 Judas bought the field.

      MT 27:5 Judas threw down the pieces of silver, then departed.
      AC 1:18 He used the coins to buy the field.

      MT 27:5 Judas hanged himself.
      AC 1:18 He fell headlong, burst open, and his bowels gushed out.

      MT 27:11, MK 15:2, LK 23:3 When asked if he is King of the Jews, Jesus answers: "You have said so," (or "Thou sayest").
      JN 18:33-34 He answers: "Do you say this of your own accord?"

      MT 27:11-14 Jesus answers not a single charge at his hearing before Pilate.
      JN 18:33-37 Jesus answers all charges at his hearing before Pilate.

      MT 27:20 The chief priests and elders are responsible for persuading the people to ask for the release of Barabbas.
      MK 15:11 Only the chief priests are responsible.
      LK 23:18-23 The people ask, apparently having decided for themselves.

      MT 27:28 Jesus is given a scarlet robe (a sign of infamy).
      MK 15:17, JN 19:2 A purple robe (a sign of royalty).

      MT 27:32, MK 15:21, LK 23:26 Simon of Cyrene carries Jesus' cross.
      JN 19:17 Jesus carries his own cross with no help from anyone.

      MT 27:37 The inscription on the cross read: "This is Jesus the King of the Jews."
      MK 15:26 "The King of the Jews."
      LK 23:38 "This is the King of the Jews."
      JN 19:19 "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews."

      MT 27:44 Both of those who are crucified with Jesus taunt him.
      LK 23:39-42 Only one taunts Jesus, and he is rebuked by the other for doing so.

      MT 27:46 Jesus asks God, the Father, why he has been forsaken.
      JN 10:30 Jesus says that he and the Father are one.

      MT 27:46-50, MK 15:34-37 Jesus' last recorded words are: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
      LK 23:46 "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit."
      JN 19:30 "It is finished." (Note: Even though both MT and MK represent direct quotes and are translated similarly, the actual Greek words used for God are different. MT uses "Eli" and MK uses "Eloi.")

      MT 27:48, LK 23:36, JN 19:29 Jesus was offered vinegar to drink.
      MK 15:23 It was wine and myrrh, and he did not drink it.
      JN 19:29-30 Whatever it was, he did drink it.

      MT 27:54 The centurion says: "Truly this was the son of God."
      MK 15:39 He says: "Truly this man was the son of God!"
      LK 23:47 He says: "Truly this man was innocent" (or "righteous").

      MT 27:55, MK 15:40, LK 23:49 The women looked on from afar.
      JN 19:25-26 They were near enough that Jesus could speak to his mother.

      MT 27:62-66 A guard was placed at the tomb (the day following the burial).
      MK 15:42- 16:8, LK 23:50-56, JN 19:38-42 (No guard is mentioned. This is important since rumor had it that Jesus' body was stolen and the Resurrection feigned.)
      MK 16:1-3, LK 24:1 (There could not have been a guard, as far as the women were concerned, since they were planning to enter the tomb with spices. Though the women were aware of the stone, they were obviously unaware of a guard.)

      MT 24:9 Even some of the disciples of Jesus will be killed.
      JN 8:51 If anyone keeps Jesus' words, he will never see death.
      HE 9:27 [All] men die once, then judgement follows.

      MT 28:1 The first visitors to the tomb were Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (two).
      MK 16:1 Both of the above plus Salome (three).
      LK 23:55 - 24:1, 24:10 Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and "other women" (at least five).
      JN 20:1 Mary Magdalene only (one).

      MT 28:1 It was toward dawn when they arrived.
      MK 16:2 It was after sunrise.
      LK 24:1 It was at early dawn.
      JN 20:1 It was still dark.

      MT 28:1-2 The stone was still in place when they arrived. It was rolled away later.
      MK 16:4, LK 24:2, JN 20:1 The stone had already been rolled (or taken) away.

      MT 28:2 An angel arrived during an earthquake, rolled back the stone, then sat on it (outside the tomb).
      MK 16:5 No earthquake, only one young man sitting inside the tomb.
      LK 24:2-4 No earthquake. Two men suddenly appear standing inside the tomb.
      JN 20:12 No earthquake. Two angels are sitting inside the tomb.

      MT 28:8 The visitors ran to tell the disciples.
      MK 16:8 They said nothing to anyone.
      LK 24:9 They told the eleven and all the rest.
      JN 20:10-11 The disciples returned home. Mary remained outside, weeping.

      MT 28:8-9 Jesus' first Resurrection appearance was fairly near the tomb.
      LK 24:13-15 It was in the vicinity of Emmaus (seven miles from Jerusalem).
      JN 20:13-14 It was right at the tomb.

      MT 28:9 On his first appearance to them, Jesus lets Mary Magdalene and the other Mary hold him by his feet.
      JN 20:17 On his first appearance to Mary, Jesus forbids her to touch him since he has not yet ascended to the Father.
      JN 20:27 A week later, although he has not yet ascended to the Father, Jesus tells Thomas to touch him.

      MT 28:7-10, MT 28:16 Although some doubted, the initial reaction of those that heard the story was one of belief since they followed the revealed instructions.
      MK 16:11, LK 24:11 The initial reaction was one of disbelief. All doubted.

      MT 28:1-18 The order of Resurrection appearances was: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, then the eleven.
      MK 16:9-14 It was Mary Magdalene, then two others, then the eleven.
      LK 24:15-36 It was two, then Simon (Peter?), then the eleven.
      JN 20:14 - 21:1 It was Mary Magdalene, then the disciples without Thomas, then the disciples with Thomas, then the eleven disciples again.
      1CO 15:5-8 It was Cephas (Peter?), then the "twelve" (which twelve, Judas was dead?), then 500+ brethren (although AC 1:15 says there were only about 120), then James, then all the Apostles, then Paul.

      MT 28:19 Jesus instructs his disciples to baptize.
      1CO 1:17 Although he considers himself a disciple of Jesus, Paul says that he has not been sent to baptize.

      MK 1:2 Jesus quotes a statement that allegedly appears in Isaiah. No such statement appears in Isaiah. (Note: IS 40.3 is seen by some as equivalent to MK 1.2; MA 3.1 is a much better fit, however, given that Jesus is allegedly quoting word for word in MK 1:2.)

      MK 1:14 Jesus began his ministry after the arrest of John the Baptist.
      JN 3:22-24 Before the arrest of John the Baptist.

      MK 1:23-24 A demon cries out that Jesus is the Holy One of God.
      1JN 4:1-2 Everyone who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God. (Note: This would mean that the demon is of God.)

      MK 3:29 Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin.
      AC 13:39, CN 2:13, 1JN 1:9 All sins are forgivable.

      MK 4:11-12, 11:25 Jesus says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain secret to at least some persons. He explains the meanings of the parables only to his disciples. He thanks God for hiding some things from the wise while revealing them to "babes."
      JN 18:20 Jesus says that he always taught openly, never secretly.

      MK 6:16 Herod was the source of the belief that John had been raised from the dead.
      LK 9:7 Others were the source. Herod was perplexed by the belief.

      MK 6:52 The people were so unimpressed with "the Feeding of the Multitude" that they did not even understand the event.
      JN 6:14-15 They were so impressed that they tried to force Jesus to be their king.

      MK 6:53 After the feeding of the 5000, Jesus and the disciples went to Gennesaret.
      JN 6:17-25 They went to Capernaum.

      MK 15:25 It was the third hour when Jesus was crucified.
      JN 19:14-15 It was after the sixth hour since Jesus was still before Pilate and had not yet been sentenced at that time.

      MK 16:1-2 The women came to the tomb to anoint the body.
      JN 19:39-40 The body had already been anointed and wrapped in linen cloth.

      MK 16:5, LK 24:3 The women actually entered the tomb.
      JN 20:1-2, 11 They did not.

      MK 16:14-19 The Ascension took place (presumably from a room) while the disciples were together seated at a table, probably in or near Jerusalem.
      LK 24:50-51 It took place outdoors, after supper, at Bethany (near Jerusalem).
      AC 1:9-12 It took place outdoors, after 40+ days, at Mt. Olivet.
      MT 28:16-20 No mention is made of an ascension, but if it took place at all, it must have been from a mountain in Galilee since MT ends there.)

      LK 1:15 John the Baptist had the Holy Spirit from before his birth or the birth of Jesus.
      LK 1:41 Elizabeth had it long before Jesus went away.
      LK 1:67 So did Zechariah.
      LK 2:25 So did Simeon.
      LK 11:13 It is obtained by prayer (presumably at any time).
      JN 7:39, JN 16:7, AC 1:3-5 The Holy Spirit cannot come into the world until after Jesus has departed.

      LK 8:12 The Devil causes unbelief.
      MK 4:11-12 Jesus is responsible for unbelief in at least some cases.
      2TH 2:11-12 God is ultimately responsible for unbelief in at least some cases.

      LK 14:26 No one can be a disciple of Jesus unless he hates his parents, wife, children, brothers and sisters.
      1JN 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer.
      1JN 4:20 If anyone claims to love God but hates his brother, he is a liar.

      LK 18:9-14 Do not boast of your virtue.
      RO 11:20, 1PE 5:5 Do not be proud.
      RO 15:17, 2CO 1:12, HE 3:6, 2CO 2:14, 5:12, 11:17 Paul boasts of his faith and says that one should be proud of it.

      LK 22:3-23 Satan entered Judas before the supper.
      JN 13:27 It was during the supper.

      LK 23:43 Jesus promises one of those crucified with him that they will be together, that very day, in Paradise.
      JN 20:17, AC 1:3 Jesus was not raised until the third day and did not ascend until at least forty days later.

      LK 23:55-56 The women followed Joseph to the tomb, saw how the body had been laid, then went to prepare spices with which to anoint the body.
      JN 19:39-40 Joseph brought spices with him (75 or a 100 lbs.) and annointed the body (as the women should have noticed).

      JN 1:1, 10:30 Jesus and God are one.
      JN 14:28 God is greater than Jesus.

      JN 1:1 Jesus was God incarnate.
      AC 2:22 Jesus was a man approved by God.

      JN 3:17, 8:15, 12:47 Jesus does not judge.
      JN 5:22, 5:27-30, 9:39, AC 10:42, 2CO 5:10 Jesus does judge.

      JN 5:22 God does not judge.
      RO 2:2-5, 3:19, 2TH 1:5, 1PE 1:17 God does judge.

      JN 5:24 Believers do not come into judgement.
      MT 12:36, RO 5:18, 2CO 5:10, HE 9:27, 1PE 1:17, JU 1:14-15, RE 20:12-13 All persons (including believers) come into judgement.

      JN 5:31 Jesus says that if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is not true.
      JN 8:14 Jesus says that even if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true.

      JN 5:38-47 Men have a choice as to whether or not to receive Jesus.
      JN 6:44 No one can come to Jesus unless he is drawn by the Father.

      JN 7:38 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (i.e., the OT).
      (No such statement is found in the OT.)

      JN 10:27-29 None of Jesus' followers will be lost.
      1TI 4:1 Some of them will be lost.

      JN 12:31 The Devil is the ruler (or "prince") of this world.
      1CO 10:26, RE 1:5 Jesus is the ruler of kings--the earth is his.

      JN 12:32 Jesus implies that all persons will be saved.
      1TI 2:3-4, 2PE 3:9 God wants all to be saved.
      JN 12:40, AC 2:21, 2:39, RO 9:27, 10:13 Some will not be saved.
      RE 14:1-4 Heaven will be inhabited by 144,000 virgin men (only?).

      JN 13:36 Peter asks Jesus where he is going.
      JN 14:5 Thomas does the same.
      JN 16:5 Jesus says that none of them have asked him where he is going.

      JN 17:12 Jesus has lost none of his disciples other than Judas.
      JN 18:9 Jesus has lost none, period.

      JN 17:12 Mentions a "son of perdition" as appearing in scripture (meaning the OT).
      (Note: There is no "son of perdition" mentioned in the OT.)

      JN 18:37 Jesus came into the world to bear witness to the truth.
      RO 1:18-20 The truth has always been evident.

      JN 20:9 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (meaning the OT). (No such statement is found in the OT.)

      JN 20:22 In his first resurrection appearance before the assembled disciples, Jesus gives them the Holy Spirit.
      AC 1:3-5, AC 2:1-4 The Holy Spirit was received much later (on Pentecost.)

      JN 21:25 The world probably could not contain the books if all that Jesus did were to be written.
      AC 1:1 The author of Acts has already written about all that Jesus began to do.

      AC 5:19, 12:6-11 The disciples take part in a jailbreak made possible by an angel.
      AC 5:40-42 The disciples disobey the Council and continue to teach and preach Jesus.
      RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

      AC 5:29 Obey God, not men.
      RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

      AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion heard the voice but saw no one.
      AC 22:9 They saw a light but did not hear a voice.

      AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion stood.
      AC 26:14 They fell to the ground.

      AC 9:19-28 Shortly after his conversion, Paul went to Damascus, then Jerusalem where he was introduced to the Apostles by Barnabas, and there spent some time with them (going in and out among them).
      GA 1:15-20 He made the trip three years later, then saw only Peter and James.

      AC 9:23 The governor attempted to seize Paul.
      2CO 11:32 It was the Jews who tried to seize Paul.

      AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
      RO 9:11-13 God hated Esau and loved Jacob even before their birth.

      AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
      RO 9:18 God has mercy on whoever he chooses, etc.

      AC 16:6 The Holy Spirit forbids preaching in Asia.
      AC 19:8-10 Paul preaches in Asia anyway.

      AC 20:35 Quotes Jesus as having said: "It is more blessed to give than to receive." (No such statement of Jesus is found elsewhere in the Bible.)

      RO 2:12 All who have sinned without the law will perish without the law.
      RO 4:15 Where there is no law there is no transgression (sin).

      RO 2:13 Doers of the law will be justified.
      RO 3:20, GA 3:11 They will not be justified.

      RO 2:15 The law is written on the heart. Conscience teaches right from wrong.
      1JN 2:27 Anointing by Jesus teaches right from wrong.

      RO 4:9 Faith was reckoned to Abraham as righteousness.
      JA 2:21 Abraham was justified by works (which made his faith perfect).

      RO 10:11 (An alleged OT quote; no such statement in the OT.)

      RO 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything that might cause your brother to stumble or be offended.
      CN 2:16 Let no one pass judgement on you in matters of food and drink.

      1CO 7:8-9 Widows should not marry (although it is better to marry than burn).
      1TI 5:14 Young widows should marry, bear children, rule the household, etc..

      1CO 8:4 There is only one God.
      2CO 4:4 Satan is God of this world (therefore there are at least two gods).

      1CO 10:33 Paul says that he tries to please men (so they might be saved).
      GA 1:10 Paul says he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men.

      2CO 12:16 Paul says that he does use trickery.
      1TH 2:3 Paul says that he does not use trickery.

      GA 6:2 Bear one another's burdens.
      GA 6:5 Bear your own burden.

      1TH 2:2 God gave Paul the courage to continue his work.
      1TH 2:17-18 Satan hindered Paul.
      (Note: Who is stronger, Satan or God?)

      1TI 1:15 Paul says that he is the foremost of sinners.
      1JN 3:8-10 He who commits sin is of the Devil. Children of God do not sin.

      1TI 6:20, 2TI 2:14-16, 3:1-7 Do not argue with an unbeliever.
      2JN 1:10-11 Anyone who even greets an unbeliever shares his wicked work.
      CN 4:5-6 Be wise in your behavior with outsiders. Let your talk be with grace, mixed with salt, so that you may be able to give an answer to everyone.
      1PE 3:15 Always be ready to answer any man concerning your faith.

      JA 4:5 (Quotes an alleged OT scripture verse not found in the OT.)

      RE 8:7 All of the grass on earth is burned up, and then ...
      RE 9:4 An army of locusts, which is about to be turned loose on the earth, is instructed not to harm the grass.

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Bravo

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    underhiswingsposted 7 years ago

    If you received answers to the OP questions and any others you might have.
    What would you do then?

    1. underhiswings profile image60
      underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Do you have a purpose for wanting to know?

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Do you want to demand any more answers from me? You didnt even reply the last time I spent a few minutes answering your question. Please bare in mind that it is 01:20am in my country, and I have been on this site since 10:00am yesterday. You can demand your answer some other time. http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ed/the_finger.gif

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          underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I did answer you last time.
          And I have no demand, just a question on what is your purpose here?
          And this is your last post with no q's. http://hubpages.com/forum/post/reply/367913

          Flipping people off ?

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Ok fine, if you work your way back up this thread you will find my explanation to nicomp..... who asked exactly the same question, and was happy enough with the answer wink

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              underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              So why the need to tell me f--k you?
              Do you just say "ok fine" and think it's all fine after you say this to me?

              Even though you told me I never answered your Q's when I did?

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                sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                The Devil did it! lol  http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ed/the_finger.gif

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                  ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Indeed Sandra, it was the devil lol

  21. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    @ cosette
    speechless!Now I want someone to differ

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      wordscribe41posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No kidding- almost puked scrolling down the page it was so long.  Got me dizzy.  How are you, Tantrum?

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        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Fine!!! what about you ? smile

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          wordscribe41posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Very well.  Not digging listening to my kids fighting, so I'm about to stick in the old MP3 player.  I'll turn on some angry music:  Nine Inch Nails or something that will drown out all "It's not fair!" declarations.  lol

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            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Love NIN ! But my favourite is M Manson

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              wordscribe41posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Have yet to check it out, honestly.  Favorite song?

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                tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                The perfect drug

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                  wordscribe41posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Will get it, thanks.  smile

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                    tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    M Mansons is Beautiful people, Torniquete, the golden age of grotesque, so many ! smile

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    sandra rinckposted 7 years ago

    And they wonder why I keep saying, "I don't believe in your god, your god sounds more like Satan." big_smile

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    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    I'm going to begin with simply stating the fact that most Christians do not believe that all the writers of the Bible took dictation directly from God. I will also reiterate that most of the "contradictions" you pointed out, Cosette, are not contradictions but problems that arise when you take verses out of context and apply a literalist interpretation (again, most Christians are not Biblical literalists)to them.

    Some of the prophets are believed to have taken dictation from God, true, but the language they use is rife with symbolism. The others were rather inspired by God to collect proverbs, write poetry, preserve stories that had been handed down over the generations, teach and encourage, and sometimes write their account of an actual event.

    Among the Apostles, the Judases were Judas Iscariot and (as he's known in Catholic and Orthdox tradition) Jude Thaddeus.

    And "the Lord" is actually a mistranslation of YHWH. It's a title, not the name itself. The Hebrew word for Lord or Master is transliterated as Adonai. So no contradiction there.

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      rmcrayneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I’ve used some of your points many times Valerie.  Like the "it’s not dictation from God”, and the Bible, per religious scholars, is for the most part, a collection of history, literature and culture of the Hebrew people.  These points to my homophobic, racist, Christian, Southern relatives, who look at me like I have 3 heads. 

      Peace.

  24. underhiswings profile image60
    underhiswingsposted 7 years ago

    GA 6:5 Bear your own burden.
    If I bear my own burden then I am not a burden to others.

    GA 6:2 Bear one another's burdens.
    If someone has a burden, like a child or a widow or orphan, I am suppose to help them bear their burdens but, I could not do that if I was not keeping my own life straight.

    Christ said this too, "he who does not work does not eat"
    So if one is not willing to work, they do not eat.

    If they cannot find work, give them something to do and if they do it, feed them. Like I do if I see someone who asked for money for food,  I say "let's go across the street to the self service car wash and you help me wash my car, then I will give you money for food for 2 days or a week depended on your work"

    They say, no it's easier to wait for people to just give me money.
    Christ did not believe in free welfare for lazy people.

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I bet you throw your money on the ground at homeless too and watch them scramble for the pennies.  Bet you make your kids work for food too or they starve.  Is that what you god teaches?  I hate your god.

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        underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        So sorry you assume that of me, I do not do this to people and I would not allow others to do it. Do not know why you would think evil of me. smile

        I often have offered the homeless work at my house and they refuse, they know it's easier to wait for free money.

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          sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          People have done worse in the name of your god.  Do you blame me?

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            underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I often have offered the homeless work at my house and they refuse, they know it's easier to wait for free money.

            I do not even know you, nor do you know me. People have done a lot of nasty things for a lot of causes, but I do not say evil about anyone without a cause right off the bat with out knowing them. No way. sad

            People have done a lot of evil in the name of their country too, but I do not hate their country for it.

            I just picked an apparent contradiction and gave an answer and you got mad....sorry.

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              sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Mad nothing, I have seen your post so it's not like you are fooling anyone.  And I still hate your god. big_smile

      2. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Come on My Goddess, hate never works for creators smile

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          sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What do you mean?  Who else would have created it. lol

          1. Misha profile image75
            Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Created what? Your world? You obviously smile

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              sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Oh you meant like slavery or something?

              1. Misha profile image75
                Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                LOL is your world full of slavery? I frankly doubt smile

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                  sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  IDK right now I feel like it. lol

                  1. Misha profile image75
                    Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Uh, obviously we are sort of out of sync today. Never mind smile

  25. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    If any book was written with as many discrepancies as the list of contradictions cosette has provided it would be laughed out of existence as any sort of "evidence."

    The reason people are able to ensure this nonsense continues unabated,  indoctrination is taught in the book itself!

    Truly funny! smile

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Does that mean that god didnt create proofreaders? But I thought that he created everything? Shame he didnt bring out Office 2007 a little earlier, could have done a spell check on the damn thing wink

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Is Bill Gates the anti christ? How else could one explain him getting away with dos 2.11? Any omniscient omnipresent god woulda stopped that with a mercy killing!!! )

  26. megs78 profile image61
    megs78posted 7 years ago

    WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE ALL TOOK THE BIBLE LITERALLY...

    Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality who dispenses advice to
    people who call in to her radio show.  Recently, she said that, as an
    observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to
    Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The 
    following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a US resident, Jim, which 
    was posted on the Internet. It's funny, as well as informative:

    Dear Dr. Laura:

    Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have
    learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as
    many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle,
    for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to
    be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however,
    regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them.

    1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
    pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev.1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They
    claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

    2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus
    21:7.  In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

    3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
    period of menstrual cleanliness (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do I
    tell?  I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

    4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female,
    provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine
    claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
    Why can't I own Canadians?

    5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.  Exodus clearly
    states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

    6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
    abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality.  I
    don't agree. Can you settle this?

    7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
    defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my
    vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

    8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around
    their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How
    should they die?

    9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
    unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

    10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different
    crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two
    different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse
    and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of
    getting the whole town together to stone them?  (Lev.24:10-16). Couldn't we
    just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people
    who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

    I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can
    help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and
    unchanging.

    Your devoted fan,
    Jim

    Hope you get a good laugh at this Everyone!

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol

      That is hilarious. Surely even believers can laugh a little at this?

      1. megs78 profile image61
        megs78posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I should hope so...after all it was my father who sent it to me and he is a Pastor of a Pentecostal Church.  smile

    2. rmcrayne profile image95
      rmcrayneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This list is very similar to one delivered by "President Bartlett" in West Wing, season 1 or 2, also in response to gay bashing  by a (self) righteous radio personality much like Dr. Laura.  Definitely worth seeing.

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    SirDentposted 7 years ago

    Psa 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

  28. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    RAmen smile

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    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    me too. i think the very length of the post made an excellent point in and of itself smile





    that is a classic comeback. i will accept that there are some things in the Bible that are not to be taken literally, and there are many things in the Bible that are symbolic, such as the length of a day - to humans, that is 24 hours long. to God, it can be years. i find it hard to fathom that every single one of those verses is figurative or symbolic.

    so, if God would make a book, which is his word, so confusing, so cryptic, why write a Bible at all? the world is full of all kinds of people from all walks of life...some can interpret the esoteric, some are very simple people who are unable to do so. and why be so clear and specific about the ten commandments? why are those widely accepted and taught as LITERAL things, and other things, when pointed out as inconsistent, said to be 'figurative' or 'symbolic'?




    thank you






    right on!



    well, 'round and 'round we go, heh...

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    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I love homer. He may be dumb as goat droppings, but he has Flanders' measure! lol

  30. sunforged profile image64
    sunforgedposted 7 years ago

    there was a lot of talk about christians getting fed to lions...in my memory, Jews were fed to lions.

    Small point, but when you are bickering about interpretation and claiming vocab in hebre and greek, you could at least remember that no biblical characters are fed to lions for belief in christ

 
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