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Catholics really believe in this stuff ? The Pope does too. Amazing !!

  1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
    quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago

    1st Timothy 2:

    13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

    14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    Why would the Apostle Paul need to explain that Adam was formed first and then Eve? Don’t we all know this? But the Church at Ephesus was taught a lie about this. This lie is much like the lie in the Catholic Church today where it is taught that “Mary, the mother of Jesus was born without original sin, hence it was her divinity which was passed on to Jesus…”

    Since Catholicism teaches that Mary is the Holy Spirit, hence they conclude that “Mary is the author of Jesus” like the lie that they taught about Eve being the author of Adam.

    This is why in 1st John 4:3 (KJV) we have the litmus test for identifying the Spirit of Antichrist. John says “every spirit which does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, this is that spirit of Antichrist…”

    What does this verse mean? The word “flesh” here is the Greek word “sarx” and it means “carnal, sensual.” This means that Yeshua our Messiah had a corruptible nature “physically” which he inherited from his mother Mary. But his spiritual nature was “incorruptible” because he had the blood of his Heavenly Father in his veins. Yeshua had to possess both natures at the same time in order to be the perfect sacrifice. He had to have a corruptible nature “physically” so that he could destroy sin in the flesh (Romans 6). But he also had to be sinless, having an incorruptible spiritual nature at the same time. If he had sinned, his blood could not have atoned for us. He had to be a male lamb without blemish according to the Torah.

    We can see how this cult from ancient Babylon has been duplicated today in the Catholic Church with the deification of Mary the mother of Jesus.

    The Holy Spirit fertilized Mary’s egg producing a human body for Jesus. But the blood came from the Heavenly Father. We can even read this in Zechariah 12:10 where Yehovah says “they will look upon ME whom they have pierced and they will mourn for HIM as one mourns for his only son.” This means that it was Yehovah’s blood that was in Yeshua when he died for us on the cross!

    And so why did I go down this rabbit trail? I am trying to show that Yeshua our Messiah was the one who is Eternal and he is the one who created Mary, Mary did not create him!

    Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    Yeshua created Mary, not the other way around. But the Roman Catholic Church teaches that Mary was sinless and divine, and eternal. They call her the “Queen of Heaven” just like the Babylonians called Semiramis the “Queen of Heaven.” Roman Catholicism hence denies that “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh” (having a corruptible physical nature) and this is the very essence of the Antichrist Spirit!

    You see, Catholicism teaches that Mary’s conception in her mother’s womb was “immaculate” and that she was born without original sin from birth making her divine. This very doctrine known as the “Immaculate Conception” is the crux of the Spirit of Antichrist. If Mary was born without original sin, then she is eternal and a goddess like Venus, like Diana, like Isis, Semiramis, Asherah, Easter and all the other pagan goddesses whom she embodies as a reincarnation according to paganism. Many Protestants think when they hear the term “Immaculate Conception” that this is about the virgin birth of Yeshua Messiah, but it is not! It is about Mary’s conception without original sin, making her divine and eternal. This would then lead to the lie that says “Eve conceived Adam” or “Mary conceived Jesus.” The Catholic Church teaches that “Mary is the Holy Spirit and that he can only work through her.”

    Pope John Paul II gave a speech in Lithuania in 1993 showing that the Catholic Church believes that Mary is the Holy Spirit!

    Time Magazine comments in September 1993’s issue: “according to modern Popes” Mary is “the Queen of the Universe, Queen of Heaven, Seat of Wisdom…..”

    In the Pope’s September 1993 speech in Lithuania, he spoke of Mary as “Mother of the Church, Queen of the Apostles, and dwelling place of the Trinity”! Pope John Paul finalized his speech by saying, “To Mary I entrust all of you….” His final petition was a prayer to Mary:

    “Hail, holy Queen of heaven, Mother of Mercy! Our life, our sweetness, and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in this valley of tears. Turn, then most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us: and after this our exiles show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus: O clement, loving sweet Virgin Mary.”

    This is complete blasphemy! Colossians 3:4 declares that Jesus Christ is our life---not Mary.

    1st John 2:1 declares that Jesus alone is our Advocate with the Father!

    According to Soul Magazine, the official publication for The Blue Army of Our Lady of Fatima,“Mary is so perfectly united with the Holy Spirit that he acts only through her, his spouse…all our life, word and deed is in Her hands…at every moment, She herself must instruct, guide, and transform each one of us into Herself, so that not we but She lives in us, as Jesus lives in Her, and the Father in the Son.”

    According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mary has replaced the Holy Spirit as teacher, guide and part of the Trinity!

    Now we can understand why Paul had to go to great lengths to deprogram the way that the Ephesians were taught. He had to re-establish the order of things that had been perverted by the Babylonian Mystery Religion of Diana Artemis.

  2. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    All religion is a farce.

    Yes, even the pope knows it's not real.

    His enlightenment has come and gone, why do you think he is the pope?

    Those who breakthrough to enlightenment, which means that they see through the hoax of religion, are appointed to higher positions to perpetuate the overall agenda of controlling the masses.

    Centuries old idea, still working very strong today.

    1. underhiswings profile image61
      underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Enlightenment?
      Break through?
      What about it?

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        The self-realization that there is NO GOD and that we are our own authority. We answer to no one.

        1. underhiswings profile image61
          underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Everyone is entitled to a perception of an illusion that leads to delusion.

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Like christianity and judaism

            1. underhiswings profile image61
              underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Plenty of it in those "religions" too, it's all over the place today and getting worse.

              1. tantrum profile image61
                tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                What's your religion ?

                1. underhiswings profile image61
                  underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I do not have one and I fit in no box.

                  1. tantrum profile image61
                    tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      so where do you fit ? in some pit ?

          2. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            An illusion? that leads to delusion?

            Care to explain.

            1. underhiswings profile image61
              underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              No need to as the comment was obviously aimed at yours.

    2. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Those who breakthrough to enlightenment, which means that they see through the hoax of religion, are not in the system. they're individuals. They wont teach you the truth. they know better.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The *New Enlightenment*,Ding, is poop.

  3. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    the catholic trinity is the kabbalistic Kether, Chokmah and Binah. Being Binah the female part of the deity.
    all symbols. So catholics believing in virgin Mary comes from the esoteric part of ancient christian rituals. Yeshua /jesus being Chokmah. And the personification of an almighty , Kether.
    what the Pope believe is irrelevant as the catholics don't understand anything due to their  indoctrination.  they have Faith.
    If you believe in the messiah, Good, but you have to understand the deep insight of it.

    1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
      quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You left out the other 7 big_smile

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        They're not relevant here. Anyway I don't talk about kabbalah with people i don't know. big_smile

        1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
          quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I know they are not relevant here...I just wanted to pull your chain. lol

          Your analogy is okay but I am wondering where the Catholics are?

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this
            1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
              quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Maybe they are off    someplace ?

              1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image91
                mistyhorizon2003posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                OMG Q&T, that is great, loved the graphics. smile

                1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
                  quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Hey you never post in here Misty!

                  1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image91
                    mistyhorizon2003posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    LOL, no not normally, too many arguments and heated debates for my liking, but this time I couldn't resist as the emoticon type images were so funny. smile

          2. glendoncaba profile image80
            glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Kabbalah info is all over internet.  Same old same old occult.  Distracted Jews from pure religion in Babylon then and now.

            1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
              quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              So do you have a reply to the OP ?

              1. glendoncaba profile image80
                glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I am learning to pick my fights carefully.  This one I will sit out. You r rocking a powerful boat.   

                Stick to facts and biblical theology.  I don't believe they say Mary is Holy Spirit.

                1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
                  quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  "Your rocking a powerful boat."
                  "Powerful"?

                  Only ONE has Power.

                  1. Cagsil profile image60
                    Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    But does anyone know why the "church" is whistling a different tune?

                  2. glendoncaba profile image80
                    glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Yea and he has given us power to preach gospel.  Win souls with gospel.  When we share in appropriate forum we reveal the pagan traditions of Christian religion which we seek to eradicate with Word of God, the Bible.

                    http://www.mostamazingprophecies.com/Ab … fault.aspx

                    HubPages religion forum is like a sore thumb in an otherwise rational platform, and is only at peace when it functions like a social networking site; a feel good chatroom for groupies, yuppies and relativists. 

                    For a bit of drama, the usual suspects will argue and insult, but I have decided to avoid divisive religious issues here.  I will post links where you can see truth from Bible and history.

                    http://www.discoveries08.org/episode-12-high-quality

                    But what is your goal?  Win souls or win arguments?  For the Catholics have no defence here, just mea culpa. Whats the point.  We already know the evils of middle ages.  HubPages forum not in my opinion the place to ventilate the details.

                    But if you feel the Spirit is calling you to this fight go right ahead.

            2. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              not the real one. That one is not in the internet

              1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
                quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I think you got yours from Carlos lol

                1. tantrum profile image61
                  tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  lol who Menem ? :lol

                  1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
                    quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Santana

            3. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Maybe you listen to Madonna too much big_smile

              1. glendoncaba profile image80
                glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Mad on...who? smile

  4. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    @ quietness
    When i was a child, Virgin Mary was not the Holy Ghost. the HG was God's spirit. The spirit which embodied in Mary to deliver God's child.
    But you said catholics believeV.Mary to be the HG. did it changed recently? or you got it all wrong ?

    1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
      quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well according to what I posted that is what the leaders think.
      The Pope sure does. I have heard this before too and they do believe she is the queen of heaven and they do pray to her and think she had a miraculous birth.

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        But then again, they can never really be assured of anything.

      2. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        the miracolous birth ,yes. It has always been, but i didn't know they say V Mary is the holly ghost. Are you sure ?

        1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
          quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          According to Soul Magazine, the official publication for The Blue Army of Our Lady of Fatima,“Mary is so perfectly united with the Holy Spirit that he acts only through her, his spouse…all our life, word and deed is in Her hands…at every moment, She herself must instruct, guide, and transform each one of us into Herself, so that not we but She lives in us, as Jesus lives in Her, and the Father in the Son.”

          Pope John Paul II gave a speech in Lithuania in 1993 showing that the Catholic Church believes that Mary is the Holy Spirit!

          Time Magazine comments in September 1993’s issue: “according to modern Popes” Mary is “the Queen of the Universe, Queen of Heaven, Seat of Wisdom…..”

          In the Pope’s September 1993 speech in Lithuania, he spoke of Mary as “Mother of the Church, Queen of the Apostles, and dwelling place of the Trinity”! Pope John Paul finalized his speech by saying, “To Mary I entrust all of you….” His final petition was a prayer to Mary:

      3. glendoncaba profile image80
        glendoncabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Does not make her Holy Spirit.

        And I'm not Catholic.

  5. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    ok but she's united to the holy spirit. She's not it, even if it seems to you. It's difficult to understand as all catholic doctrine is. when they say Mary is the queen of Heaven etc. that comes from ancient esoteric meanings with respect of Binah. in the begining  the Church,  was very close to judaism, as all their memberes were jews. something catholics tend to forget.

  6. quietnessandtrust profile image60
    quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago

    "Queen of heaven" ?

    She is queen of nothing except the Catholics.

    1. Lisa HW profile image84
      Lisa HWposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If it's true that Jesus was more than "just a good guy" then you have to admit it only makes sense to believe his mother must have some special "pull" with God too.

      st John 2:1 declares that Jesus alone is our Advocate with the Father!

      Some believe this.  Others think other people who have walked the Earth have also been "advocates for the Father".  That's the whole thing about the different religions - everybody believes something different.

  7. quietnessandtrust profile image60
    quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago

    The Catholics have left the building ?

    1. atomswifey profile image70
      atomswifeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL

  8. quietnessandtrust profile image60
    quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago

    Where is Make Money Mike? Can't believe he says nothing?

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      nothing to say to all your nonsense big_smile

      1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
        quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        you mean truth lol mad

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes. your truth is nonsense. you should explain it better big_smile

          1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
            quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I wrote a thousand words and you still don't get it?
            Read it again Hobo Kelly lol big_smile

            1. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              lol you said Virgin Mary was the Holly ghost. Well ,she's not

              1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
                quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Well I know that but they do not.

                1. tantrum profile image61
                  tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  so why confuse people.? what's your point?

                  1. tantrum profile image61
                    tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    You said it was a fact of catholic religion

                  2. quietnessandtrust profile image60
                    quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    The point is to let people know what the leaders of the Catholics believe.
                    They have a lot of secrets they hide from the followers.
                    Mary was only a person and should not be prayed to or be given equal place with God.

  9. quietnessandtrust profile image60
    quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago

    Already did.

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile How sweet big_smile

  10. profile image60
    reaoxposted 5 years ago

    Hello,

    Might I ask the author where he got his sources from? For all the finger pointing, it seems to be highly erroneous and full of faults. You seem to pick and choose what you want, take it out of context and then use that to bolster your claims.

    For one claiming that the Church's theology is distorted, it would seem that you my friend, are the one preaching distorted truths. How is it that the Catechism of the Catholic Church or any other official doctrine of the Catholic church does not teach any of what you have mentioned here?

    It is interesting too that you'd choose to post this here, expecting a hearty argument with Catholics or perhaps for a number of anti-Catholic persons to come and give you a pat on the back. Why not seek clarification with a scholar or someone who is actually qualified to comment on this issue before you post? It is only common sense to any modern, educated person , Catholic or not, with the slightest desire to google or ask someone qualified with the intention to find out more, that Mary is not the Holy spirit. Why go through all the fuss only to make yourself look silly?

    The Catholic church does not teach that Mary has replaced the Holy Spirit at all. Anywhere. Period. Mother Mary gave her life in complete obedience over to God. The Holy Spirit is within her, works and flows through her, in a similar way the Holy Spirit is within and works through you and me in our daily actions, albeit in a more complete and intense manner. After all, both you and I have not given ourselves entirely over(in thought, word, deed, intention e.t.c.) to God have we? Be honest please.

    Mary is not above or equal to God at all. All things flow from God. She is a created being. It is through the power of the Holy Spirit that Jesus became incarnate in her womb. And like all created beings in heaven obedient to God, such as the saints, angels e.t.c. she intercedes to the Father(God) for us. 
    Her intercessory role was evident even in her life on earth. In the Bible(John 2), she asked Jesus(God)to turn the water into wine on behalf of the servants(people) at the wedding at Cana.  She told the servants: 'Do whatever He tells you.' This role of Mother Mary in bringing the servants to God is very much like what all intercessors are called to do. "To stand in the gap."(Ezekiel 22:30)

    And because of her complete obedience to the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is able to work completely and fully within and through her. Much like how to a lesser extent(only because God gives us the freedom to do so) the Holy Spirit works in you and me, but that's because we are not completely submitted to God amongst other reasons...

    A cursory, yet level-headed look at all Marian prayers will show that they only ask for intercession or to ask her to lead us to her Son Jesus. Other hymns and prayers only offer honour to her as the Mother of the Church and therefore our Mother and so forth. But this is Biblical - the Hail Mary is taken from the archangel Gabriel's greeting and the words  Elizabeth greeted her with.The latter half of the Hail Mary  is asking for her intercession. Other hymns and praises are only doing justice to Mother Mary that God gave her first in the Bible through the words of the angel Gabriel, Jesus and other places.

    This is different from worship, worship belongs only to God. In simple terms, we are offering praise(not the same praise offered to God). We can offer praise to anyone we meet throughout the day - "You look very beautiful.. e.t.c." This is a slightly higher form of praise, because we offer honour. we offer honour because (amongst other things) we admire how she lived, her submission to God, giving thanks to God for her saying yes and therefore bringing her Son into the world. But this is not as high as the praise reserved for God alone.

    A lot of times too, such hymns and prayers include petitioning for intercessions from Mary.

    E.G. from the marian hymn:

    Mother Dearest Mother Fairest :
    Mother dearest, Mother fairest, help us, help us, help we pray....

    Mother Dear O Pray for Me:

    Mother dear, O pray for me!
    Should pleasure's siren lay.
    E'er tempt thy child to wander far
    From Virtue's path away.
    When thorns beset life's devious way,
    And darkling waters flow.
    Then Mary aid thy weeping child,
    Thyself a mother show. 

    The willingness of Mary in her intercessory role, to step out of her comfort zone to stand in the gap and bring the people to God alludes to the amount of humility Mary has, to be able to give up her own status, pride and will, and submit totally and completely to God, devoting her time and effort to bring them to Him.

    Priests, Pastors and all other fellow men can only point to God. Like all created beings that are for God, She leads us to God. She is human, yet Mother of the Divine.

    The term "Queen of Heaven", alludes to the Royal dignity of Mary as Mother of the King of heaven. It also refers to her co-operation with Jesus in His redemptive works. Beginning with the immaculate conception - Mother Mary was a virgin, she gave birth to Jesus in an 'immaculate' state.

    In the Catechism of the Catholic Church it says: "She was exalted by the Lord as Queen of all in order that she might be more thoroughly conformed to her Son, the Lord of Lords and the conqueror of sin and death" (Lumen Gentium 59; cf. Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 966).

    This goes way deeper than what I am stating here, but for the sake of brevity, I'm gonna keep it short. Mary could have refused God, therefore not conceiving Jesus. It is not to say that God is not all powerful, but He gives us the power of choice, like in you and me today. Sin still exists does it not? But it is only by His Grace and mercy, IF we choose to turn to Him and accept it that we are able to operate according to His will, through the promptings and guidance of the Holy Spirit.

    But, Mary, through the grace of the Holy Spirit completely obedient to Him, said yes to God. And thus was a medium for Jesus to come into the world for His redemptive mission. Is this not true?

    Another simple, commonsense example. As a mother, she brought up and took care and loved Jesus did she not? She shares a special bond with Jesus, being His mother. All the time cooperating with God, which allowed Jesus to mature into a man and therefore begin His ministry and ultimately dying on the cross for you and me.

    On the surface, this barely scratches what is meant by 'co-redemption'.

    Finally, Mother Mary, like all those who are or will go to heaven, share in the glory of God. She has a special place, because of her affiliation to Jesus. And in a sense, when she gave birth to Jesus, her actions allowed for the forming of the Church. Hence the name: "Mother of the Church".
    In the Bible just before Jesus died He too said, "Woman this is your son(John), and son(John- representing the church), this your mother." (John 19:26)

    As a mother of the church, she works in co-operation with and through the power of her Son and the Holy Spirit to take care of her Son's flock. like the church, She wishes and works towards all people coming to know her Son(God) and intercedes to her Son on our behalf. In a lesser sense, this is similar to how we pray to God for one another. Remember, she has a special relationship with Jesus - the theology behind this goes deeper that what can be summarised here.

    An example of the true spirit of our Mother can be seen in the message she gave in Medjugorje in Christmas, 2008.

    "Dear children! You are running, working and gathering - but without blessing. You are not praying! Today I call you to stop in front of the manger and to meditate on Jesus, whom I give to you today also, to bless you and to help you to comprehend that, without him, you have no future. Therefore, little children, surrender your lives into the hands of Jesus, for him to lead you and protect you from every evil. Thank you for having responded to my call. December 25, 2008-by Pilgrim

    St. Maximillian Kolbe, explained best by a current Catholic website,once said something to like this: 'All grace ultimately comes to us from God the Father, through the merits of Jesus Christ, his Son, and is distributed by the Holy Spirit.And the Holy Spirit, in distributing all grace, works in and through Mary — not because He has to do so, but precisely because in his plan of salvation, God wills to do so. And God wills to do so for a reason: Jesus, the Source of all grace, came through Mary via the work of the Holy Spirit; therefore it is fitting that all grace continue to come through Mary by the work of the Holy Spirit.'

    She can 'give Jesus' to us, because she carries Him in her, the Holy Spirit flows and works through her remember? And because God is the Triune God, where one is present, so too the Son and the Father there will be. In fact in the Bible, she carried Jesus around to people in her womb!

    Hence, from this short, yet lengthy post, see that in order to REALLY understand what the Holy Father meant when He said this, you must first seek to at least understand the context it is put in, from a proper perspective.

    "According to Soul Magazine, the official publication for The Blue Army of Our Lady of Fatima,“Mary is so perfectly united with the Holy Spirit that He acts only through her, his spouse…all our life, word and deed is in Her hands…at every moment, She herself must instruct, guide, and transform each one of us into Herself, so that not we but She lives in us, as Jesus lives in Her, and the Father in the Son.”

    I have tried to paraphrase it to the best of my ability to help you understand better.

    "Mother Mary is perfectly united with the Holy Spirit, and He chooses to act through her, His spouse in whom which Jesus was conceived and brought forth for our salvation. This being the case, all our life word and deed is in Her hands. She must transform us into her(by the grace of God), so that we too, in our humaness(like Mary), may be completely conformed and be obedient to the will of God in humility(like Jesus, the primary and perfect example of how to lead our lives.) Mother Mary is so perfectly united with the Holy Spirit, that her every action and word conforms with God's(Holy Spirit). So now, when we become like Mary, humble and completely submitted to the will of God. As Jesus lives Her, if we, through the grace and power of the Holy Spirit(God) working in us, allow Mother Mary to lead us and transform us to become like her(complete humility, obedience to God), she will live in us and so, Jesus will live in us too. (Hence because the Son lives in the Father and the Father lives in the Son, God the Father will live in us too(Triune God).

    Even in this post, I am only able to offer but a brief insight on this topic. I too am discovering new and wonderful things about my faith even today. There is so much more to learn about Catholic doctrines and Mother Mary that you can discover in the Catholic faith. It is deep and wide, if you open your heart and mind to it. No doubt there will be many many more questions and doubts needing clarification. But I invite you to try googling them up from legitimate Catholic websites to find out more about it and understand it first before posting again.

    That being said, to the author, I invite you once again to provide evidence for your claims. It is easy to incite anger and throw unsupported accusations against the Church. It is also easy to belittle those who oppose your own beliefs with harsh words. But at the end of the day what good will that bring you? It will never be enough to satiate your ego. 

    Instead, I invite the author, fellow readers and future posters to find out more the true teachings of the Catholic faith. There are many good sources both off and online, on the radio or on tv. Also, you could visit your local Catholic parish and approach the religious or clergy there.

    In the meantime, take care and God bless you my friends. smile

    1. mischeviousme profile image60
      mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      All religious views are distorted... Otherwise, they'd be accepted accross the board.

    2. Daughter Of Maat profile image97
      Daughter Of Maatposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you reaox, while reading through the original post, I was perplexed and thinking the Catholic church all of a sudden changed their teachings. Why is he bringing up the KJV version of the bible? He does know that version is missing about 8 books that the Catholic version has, right??

      I was born and raised Catholic, and while I'm no longer Catholic, or Christian, I believe to debate religion using information that is clearly erroneous benefits no one. If you're going to point out all the things that are wrong with a religion, at least have the common courtesy to actually KNOW what you're talking about. This is how misinformation is diseminated and rumors, disrespect and discrimination all get started.

 
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