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Majority of poor countries are the most religious ones, coincidence?

  1. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    Is it just a coincidence that the majority of the poorest countries in the world are the most religious ones? Or is it because their faith holds them back from economic progress?

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image73
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The USA make claim to be a Christian nation ,so what does that also say?
      Guess its a matter of perspective.
      IMO the whole world has a whole lotta poor right now wink

    2. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      hello good day to all, i dont know if it is correct to say that, there maybe some other factors which are contributing why a country is poor..like human resources, GDP, export, trading etc.

      I dont know I am poor in economics.........

    3. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      They are told money? via religious teachings or interpretations, is evil. So it makes sense that the poorest countries would be more religious.

    4. ediggity profile image61
      ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So, what are the richest countries in the world that are the most non religious?  Do you have any evidence to support your original claim, or is it just your opinion?

    5. dutchman1951 profile image59
      dutchman1951posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No co-insidence. Goverments want it that way, so they stay in power over these people.

    6. Bibowen profile image90
      Bibowenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You mean like the US? Most of the world is religious and most of the world is poor. And you point is....?

      Generally speaking, those nations that have been the most influenced by Christianity, and more specifically Protestant Christianity, have provided the greatest benefits to the greatest number of people. And it was all done without the help of Jeremy Bentham...

      1. JYOTI KOTHARI profile image73
        JYOTI KOTHARIposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi Bibowen,
        I don't know who is Jeremy Bentham. With all due respect I decline to agree with you. Countries you mentioned are responsible for atrocities in large parts of the globe.

        Many of the European countries had colonies in Asia, Africa, Australia and Latin America. Ask people from those colonies who suffered from their atrocities.

        Red Indians in America and tribes from Australia are almost extincted. And forgot about slaves from African continent?

        And Hitler? Nuclear explosion in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Atrocities in Vietnam and Iraq?

        Are these greatest benefits referred to?

        Thanks for sharing.
        Jyoti Kothari

        1. Bibowen profile image90
          Bibowenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I'm not sure why you are bringing up these matters because the issue pertains to poor countries, not to the evils committed by these regimes. Nothing that you’ve said diminishes my point that Protestant Christianity has brought the greatest benefit to the greatest number of people.

          Jeremy Bentham was an 18th century British philosopher that espoused the belief of utilitarianism, a philosophy that was grounded in scientism. In short, Bentham said that our ethical duties could be summarized by extending the greatest amount of benefit to the greatest number of people. Christianity has done more to extend such goods, but did so without being grounded in utilitarianism.

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      roll

    8. Friendlyword profile image60
      Friendlywordposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Those countries and their religious people can be manipulated by groups like "The Family" that come into a poor uneducated country and decimate the population with disease and war. Then they are able to steal that countries oil or diamonds by installing a puppet government

      READ ALL ABOUT IT IN THESE FORUMS:

      http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/29607?page=4#post615591

      http://wthrockmorton.com/wp-content/upl … l-2009.pdf

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#34214774

  2. CMHypno profile image90
    CMHypnoposted 7 years ago

    North Korea is a communist country - religion not encouraged and is one of the poorest places on earth.  Most of the richest economies say they are religious countries - the UK is nominally christian as is the US.  And some of the middle eastern countries like Saudi, Kuwait and Dubai are islamic and fabulously wealthy.

  3. Eaglekiwi profile image73
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    The poorer countries are often rich in oil or gemstones which make them an obvious aid reciepient wink

    1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      to eaglewiki: hi mam, Can i be your fan?

      to paraglider: good day there in the middle east, hows the weather  there?

      1. Paraglider profile image89
        Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Greetings smile  Same as usual, bright sunshine, no clouds, around 33C.

        1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
          prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          oh thats nice weather it is colder here in Tx now, start of fall,,,u up to something , have u written a new article again??

          how do u get that smiley in yuor response, how can I do that?

  4. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    I said majority, plus america only "claims" to be a religious nation, i'm talking about the hardcore god followers, "real" religious countries=)

    1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      like what countries, can you name some, religiosity is a vague concept also, how do you measure religiosity? i was just thinking, i came from the philippines which is 90 percent catholic, would you consider it religious, but the crime is high also?? please explain more

      1. topgunjager profile image60
        topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Funny you mentioned the philippines, it's one of the poorest countries in the world, and i do believe that religion holds them back, filipinos are known to be very submissive because of their faith that's why they are very easy to take advantage of because they are taught to be meek and humble, they don't create urgency in their lives because they believe that there is a better life waiting for them. i also noticed that all they do is pray, nothing else but pray, everytime something bad happens they think they can just pray things away, that's why nothing is getting done over there, i know this because i'm Pilipino, not Filipino=)

        1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
          prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          oh are you a Filipino? Oh first you call the people Filipino not Pilipino (i just so thought that at the University of the Philippines where I used to teach, they change to Filipino already). studies have been conducted to attest the correlation between religiosity and behavior, they have weak correlation. you cannot just say that a country is poor just because they are religious also if that is the case. What you are saying is individual cases not all. Human behavior is complex and you act and behave based on your perceived notion of what is good and bad. women in the philippines are not at all submissive, look at our president..

          1. topgunjager profile image60
            topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You're right they did change it to filipino, filipinos are american wannabes, nothing is more beautiful to a filipino than white people, the fact that you changed it from pilipino to filipino and pilipinas to philippines shows how much pride your country has, it's sick, we can;t even speak to each other without blurting out words from different languages, it's sick that a lot of words are disgusting when said in tagalog rather than in english, if you say kantot, that's a bad word, you say sex it's very acceptable, in the philippines, if you don; speak english people laugh at you because to them speaking in english is smart, i don;t see why because if there are so many smart people in the philippines why is the country made of dung=)

            1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
              prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Sorry you have that kind of sweeping generalization of Filipinoes. It is just wrong to categorize people in a box..Language is evolving..If your perception about the Filipinoes are like that, then why not help in changing it, it will start from you, we never know. All I can say is that I am proud to be a filipino.

            2. Mahmo profile image60
              Mahmoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              This statement is incorrect.Is Saudi Arabia or the other gulf states fall within the poor countries ?

      2. topgunjager profile image60
        topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        also crime rate is high because of desperation; when you're desperate, religion is not a factor for a lot of people=)

    2. Paraglider profile image89
      Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well,you know, other people have given plenty of counter examples, of extremely rich highly religious states. What extremely poor religious countries had you in mind when you asked the question?

    3. Eaglekiwi profile image73
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ok yes some Religions have nothing much to do about God anyway, its a very general term.
      What countries did you have in mind ?

      Africa , India perhaps?

  5. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    You're right, language is evolving, because of your lack of pride=)and really, how can you be proud of being a filipino when you find all the michael jackson's out there, everyone is bleaching to make their skin white because they don;t like to be dark=)

    1. emievil profile image84
      emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Funny, you said you're a 'Pilipino' but you say 'you' and 'your' which means you disclaimed the fact that you are one. Which is it really, are you or are you not a Pilipino or Filipino? The name changes but your ancestry and your blood don't change. And you're avatar is classic Filipino, btw smile

      To answer your question, I am not so sure about the correlation (based on scientific studies) but yes, there may be some truth of that here (although my religious aunts will kill me if they know I admit that online). But I only said 'may' because there are also rich countries that are religious (like the Muslim, oil-rich countries) and there are also lots of rich, honest people who are religious. So there may be other factors why we are a poor country.

      1. topgunjager profile image60
        topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        you're right, the country's rich, not the people=)

        1. emievil profile image84
          emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          All countries, even the rich ones, have rich and poor people, regardless of whether they're deeply religious or not. How about Japan? They have lots of rich people there but I think they're still religious (they even think their emperor is a reincarnation of god, I think).

          1. topgunjager profile image60
            topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            you're right, they do think the emperor is a descendant of God, "back in the 1940's" they are rich now because religion is not a factor to them anymore=)

            1. tksensei profile image60
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              That is not correct. What is up with the attitude?

        2. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          America is BROKE?

          Where or How is America RICH?

      2. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
        GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        People in the Third World tend not to be religous, but since they experience difficulties in life they tend to have hope in God no matter what it takes to make both ends meet...

        Yeah why you have that classic Filipino avatar...

  6. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    by the way it's not perception, it's a fact=)

    1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The fact is you should take a deeper look into what is happening in the country, not to generalize like that. When we talk about human behavior per se, there is no fact, all are perceptions because bahavior is not exact, you cant predict behabior.

  7. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    i did take a deeper look, that's why i hate it=)

    1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      it is your perception, but I suggest you should get more details about it, and who knows it might start from you...I respect yuor opinion about all of what you say,

  8. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    ok you know what, i'm sorry i included 1% of the filipino population in my argument about them being american wannabes, you're right, it's only the 99% not all of them=)

    1. emievil profile image84
      emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If I read it correctly, you're from Sunnyvale, Cali and you're a Filipino. You're one of those 99% wannabes smile

      1. topgunjager profile image60
        topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        no ma'am, i'm not a wannabe because i'm from sunnyvale, should i call you a hooker because your from the philippines? that's not right=)

        1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
          GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          be careful with the word you use boy, you'll get flagged or worse get banned... You tend to use indirect attacks... but they're obvious, they're foul and abusive... Watch your tongue newbie... grrr on you speak to emie like that... you're not even a quarter of her innate attributes...

          1. topgunjager profile image60
            topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            you;re from the philippines, you know how it is=)

            1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
              GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              based on the way you behave you are indeed heavily educated with good upbringing case like this has nothing to do with the color of skin anymore... there are many like you and the world is indeed gifted having people like you hehehe... Galunggong... amoy tinapa...

              1. topgunjager profile image60
                topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                what's wrong man? can't handle a little truth?smile

                1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
                  GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  the little truth you're talking about is also present in other countries...

          2. emievil profile image84
            emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Easy GH. There are some of our countrymen who think we are hopeless and evidently he's one of those.

            And topgunjager, no we don't know how it is. If you're from Cali, USA, then you don't also know how it is because you have not been here. Do not presume you know your country as well as we do just because you have been exposed to the 'wrong' kind of people. There are Filipinos who are good and then there are filipinos who are bad. I presume you are more exposed to the latter hence your assumption that the whole country is bad. But that is still not an excuse to generalize all of us.

        2. prettydarkhorse profile image63
          prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Oh please be civilized, why not do or think of something to change what your perception is about the Filipinoes, instead of making sweep generalizations. I dare you, it will start from you...

        3. emievil profile image84
          emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Then don't claim you're a pilipino if you will just bash your own country and your own countrymen. And calling me a hooker will not change the fact that you're still a wannabe.

          Oh wait <-------- *looks at her big body* this is a hooker lol lol lol

          1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
            GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            hey miss sexy hehehe can I take you tonight and dance to the music Wonderful Tonight... This topgunjager is highly educated person equipped with great Filipino upbringing... tsk tsk tsk... you're going nowhere boy, cause you dont know where you came from...

            1. emievil profile image84
              emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              LOL maybe it's miss 'siksik' lol lol lol

              1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
                GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                "siksik din kaya asawa ko hehehe fiancee pala"... I dont know you're "siksik"

                1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
                  prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  siksik man daw at magaling, ok pa rin.

                  1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
                    GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    nyahahaha, hehehe, masabaw siksik nyahahaha...

                    big_smile big_smile big_smile

                    Hey top my friend, Filipino hubbers here are well respected here except me nyahahaha... so please give what is due, stop maligning your roots if you have some angst about it I think Its better for you to have some soul searching, your in US right now, and you have a great opportunity to do something at least for yourself

                2. emievil profile image84
                  emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  LOL that's right, you did not see my first avatar. Did you see my niece? She takes after me in body type smile

                  1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
                    prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    your niece is so cute, ang sarap alagaan nakakaalis ng pagod, ang ganda pang ngumiti, ako ay magkakape,,,salamat sa inyo...ako ay dinuguan ng ilong sa batang iyon

                  2. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
                    GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Yeah I saw it nyahahaha, thats why i take off my first avatar which is a portrait of a skinny me...

                    Just pretended a few minutes that I haven't... nyahahahaha...

  9. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    since you're all so proud to be filipinos and what i said is not true, then why don't you prove me wrong=)

    1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      theres nothing to disprove because it is not a fact, you dont even know the extent of it, maybe a little bit...I just think that it is wrong to categoried us like that...you are very hatefuil about what Filipinoes are,,,sometimes it is easier to criticize than to analyze and help in the situation (if there is really)

  10. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    ok you know what, the next time another country really looks up to our country, i'll take back all i said and aplogize for my words=) until then, why don't you stop bleaching your skin and do something other than try to ba white=)

    1. emievil profile image84
      emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Uhm, that's the same as asking those who are white to stop coming to our country or going to tanning salons to get a good tan. smile I think there's a hub here somewhere about that.

      And no, I don't want to be white and I'm married to a guy who has dark skin who also does not want to be white smile.

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
        GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I dont need to have my skin bleached or whatever because I know I have ample talents to face anybody else and do what I wish to do... besides I'm proud of my heritage...

    2. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      please read the article of paraglider about the Filipino people and apolgize to him also...he is one of the many people who believe in our people..

  11. myownworld profile image82
    myownworldposted 7 years ago

    Are you kidding me? Have you ever been to the Middle east??  Religion AND money is breathing down your throat at every step! u'll be coming up for fresh air all the time.....

    1. topgunjager profile image60
      topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      you've obviously been in one part of the middle east=)

      1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
        prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        halika magkape tayo topgunjager, dinuguan ako ng ilong sa iyo, lekat ka magbago ka na

        1. topgunjager profile image60
          topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          ok bati na tayo, pero bawal daw magtagalog dito baka paalisin tayo=)

          1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
            prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry about not saying it in english, topgunjagger I want to make peace with you only if you promised to take a second look about your perceptions and to be proud of what you are and where you came from. It will start from you,,,

    2. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      wait, hi myownworld; good am from here..will just drink coffee

  12. Paraglider profile image89
    Paragliderposted 7 years ago

    braa louns an quinies the hale jing-bang o ye wink

    1. emievil profile image84
      emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL, I'm seeing a 3-day ban for all of us here. j/k lol

      Peace topgunjager smile

      1. Paraglider profile image89
        Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Mine was quite complimentary smile

        1. emievil profile image84
          emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Let's do a trade. I'll translate the filipino words here and you translate what you just said wink

      2. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
        GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Its okay with me nyahahaha Im in a vacation anyways nyahaha from HP still gaining more strength to make hubs in the months ahead... I love it here though hehehehe...

    2. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
      GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Whaddya say hehehe... ? sorry we speak Tagalog hehehe...

      1. Paraglider profile image89
        Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Just broad Scots, I said-

        Fine lads and lasses, the whole gang of you!

        1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
          GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And you're a fine lad too my everdearest paraglider friend wakikik, Hmmm I hope you are not selling us nyahahaha, just kidding aside...

        2. emievil profile image84
          emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Lads and lasses eh. smile thanks for making me feel young smile

        3. prettydarkhorse profile image63
          prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          am I included here paraglider, I feel pretty again

          1. Paraglider profile image89
            Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I saw you briefly when you showed your face. So yes, absolutely!

            1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
              prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              oh ok thanks...i lost my file of avatar that time....am reading your newest article now....
              ..

  13. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    let's go to starbucks=

    1. emievil profile image84
      emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You buying? smile

    2. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
      GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well thats good... top... GTG... Goodluck and More Power to you here Pal...

      Bye guys hehehe this was one of the most memorable forums I've gotten entangled with...

  14. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 7 years ago

    yeah i'm buying=)

    1. Paraglider profile image89
      Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ah, you take off the shades...

    2. emievil profile image84
      emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      hey thanks smile

    3. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      sorry paraglider I am promoting this, topgunjager read this. http://hubpages.com/hub/Filipinos

      to emievil, there you are you changed your avatar, so............cute little girl.......

      1. emievil profile image84
        emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Gee thanks smile

      2. Make  Money profile image73
        Make Moneyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That is a real nice tribute to the Filipino people.  I've noticed that paraglider does not mince his words, just a straight shooter.

        Paraglider I believe this is a good time to introduce your Hub that is trying to start a world grass roots movement promoting awareness and social equality.  A way to peacefully take back our birthright.
        http://hubpages.com/hub/bloodless-revolution

        Mike

  15. JYOTI KOTHARI profile image73
    JYOTI KOTHARIposted 7 years ago

    I am not agree completely with the view of forum thread. Religion does not have a direct correlation with prosperity in general.
    We can not generalize it because perception of religion and being religious differs from place to place.

    Philippines is not a rich country, it is indeed true. However, it is not because people are humble and submissive. Japanese are perhaps the most humble and submissive and they are among richest in the world.

    India was considered as most religious and it had remained very very rich for millenniums. It is again emerging as economically strong state. India has fifth highest foreign currency reserve in the world.

    China and Vietnam were communist, hence non religious and were poor for long time.

    In fact, Asian countries were richer than any other parts of the globe for centuries. It was industrial revolution that made Europe rich. They invaded Asian and African countries and made colonies. They became poor during colonial rule. It will take time to regain their economic status and that is started.

    White and English dominated Asia and Africa for quite a long time and that made people crazy of white and English. It will be vanished with emergence of economies in Asia, Latin America and Africa.
    Do not worry.

    Thanks,
    Jyoti Kothari

    1. JYOTI KOTHARI profile image73
      JYOTI KOTHARIposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What do you think? I am eager to know your opinion.

  16. Philent profile image79
    Philentposted 7 years ago

    I just finished reading the whole thread, and thank goodness it all ends well with the 4 of you. I hope I'm right.

    Let us not throw stone into one another. As pretty have said, change will all start in each of us.

    1. emievil profile image84
      emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile wanna join us for starbucks?

      1. Philent profile image79
        Philentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Oh I would love too. Haven't been there for a while. So how about Starbucks Tagaytay? lol

        1. emievil profile image84
          emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol any starbucks will do. Haven't been to one since I went to Manila last May. We don't have starbucks here sad.

          1. Philent profile image79
            Philentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Is that so?!? Y not get a franchise and run your own starbucks? wink

            1. emievil profile image84
              emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              smile would love to but only one family / corporation in the whole Philippines own the exclusive franchise to starbucks here in the country.

              1. Philent profile image79
                Philentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Oh that is too bad..Well I bet u can make a delicious coffee and that will be the start of having your own cafe. lol Just invite me in your opening. smile

                1. emievil profile image84
                  emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  LOL thanks for the vote of confidence. Let's just meet in starbucks someday smile

                  1. Philent profile image79
                    Philentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Yeah, that would be nice. See ya when I see ya! wink

  17. sunforged profile image64
    sunforgedposted 7 years ago

    makes sense to me - free crackers at communion , yummy and filling

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol   lol   lol   lol   lol

  18. Len Cannon profile image87
    Len Cannonposted 7 years ago

    It is neither.  Christianity (outside of America, where it has spun out of control) has always been a religion that venerated the poor rather than demonized it.  It is no shock that a religion where the "meek shall inherit the earth" would attract many of the poorest.

  19. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
    GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago

    @eaglekiwi --- long time no see hehehe you just revived your classic avatar eh... One cannot equate God with religion, there are a lot of religion that teaches false teachings...

    It is walking the talk, living clean and shunning away from sins is  a true gauge of Love of God...

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      They ALL teach false. If you call one false you have to call all them false.

      Lets not turn this into a religious feud, because we surely won't get anywhere doing that.

      It does however to beg to ask......is religion killing society or is helping?

      In today's society....it's killing more than is doing anything else.

      If it is not from starvation or poverty, then wars in the name of god...which shouldn't be the case.

      It's completely ignorant to say on one hand----murder/killing is against god's will and then go out and do it.

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
        GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You are perfect to your own opinion hehehe no question about that... hehehe... smile

        1. The Rope profile image60
          The Ropeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You're mixing your groups.  In my opinion wars are started by arrogant leaders, that they do so in the name of a god, is of their own volition and designed to give themselves power.  Religions - in and of themselves - do not start or protract wars.

  20. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    You know why we have law(s)?

    Because religion can't control everyone....Government has to make up for the non-believers.

    1. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
      GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This is a religious thread you are definitely barking at the wrong tree, or should I say thread, deeet, wrong number  hello are you okay wakikik...

  21. soni2006 profile image46
    soni2006posted 7 years ago

    Majority of poor countries are the most religious ones, coincidence?

    I don't think so....

    1. JYOTI KOTHARI profile image73
      JYOTI KOTHARIposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Soni,
      I support your opinion.

      Thanks,
      jyoti Kothari

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    Rick Marlowposted 7 years ago

    People always call out to God when they`re poor and needy.That`s when common sense kicks in.When the rubber meets the road, people know where and who their provider is.All will acknowledge this one day.That day is on the horizon for the world.

    1. topgunjager profile image60
      topgunjagerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      that's what i think is wrong sir, everytime we are in need we ask god to make our situation better but we fail to realize that our actions and decisions will make our situation better, all we need to do is get up, think and make things happen, i believe that this approach will truly make you a stronger, better person because you won't have anything to rely on=)

    2. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That is not how humans work.
      They are poor to start with often through ignorance which makes them vulnerable.
      They do what all frightened people have done since the beginning, they believe whatever is offering them a way out.

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        sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I wish they would believe in me.  I would give them a way out. smile

        1. JYOTI KOTHARI profile image73
          JYOTI KOTHARIposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          It is not necessary that poor people only call out God. people can pray God out of their fear or faith both.

          Jyoti Kothari

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            The only reason people call to some for of God, gods or external authority is to seek guidance which they think themselves are incapable of understanding.

            It isn't so much ignorance, but the teachings they follow that give them "supposed" answers that they can not find in other ways.

  23. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
    GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago

    Yeah you're right there, but this event that unfolds with the poor people leads them to knowing God a lot better and some would find different religion to give them hope... this is just my point of view I can be wrong wakikik...

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      Rick Marlowposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Looks like you hit the nail on the head friend.

  24. prettydarkhorse profile image63
    prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago

    To find solace in a supernatural being in times of needs is very basic for human beings, where everything else fails, hope is free and that what keeps them going, and this is cultural too. There are many reasons why a country is poor and it is lack of judgement that we simply say a country is poor because they are religious, we dont know which cause which and it just shows the lack of understanding about other factors like trade, gross domestic product, tariffas, taxes, globalization, supply and demand.

  25. GeneralHowitzer profile image64
    GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago

    hi sandra, whew whata stunning avatar you've got there...

    so.... what way out you can offer heheheh.... smile

  26. The Rope profile image60
    The Ropeposted 7 years ago

    I'd like to address the original topic - poor countries and how religious they are.  I believe they are more obviously "religious because they are poor" and not "poor because they are religious".  Religious views are usually built on hope, therefore the worse the circumstances, the more a person is drawn to something that offers hope.  Religious groups spend a lot of time in these areas working to help the people and they do it in the name of the God the group worships.  It is natural then that the locals would see "hope" for a better tomorrow in the God that is helping them today.

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    Rick Marlowposted 7 years ago

    When a nation or a people suffer, they cry out for relief. Most countries or people that live in poverty probably do so because of corrupt goverments.The leaders bleed the life out of the nations and extort away the resourses that make the people flourish.It`s not always done under the guise of religion but it is always done because of greed and lust for more.When people are hungry,they`re humble.I know, I`ve been there.You strip away wealth and pride and strength and you have a servant.A servant knows and calls out to  his master and our master is God. All these arrogant,self righteous people that run around through these forums would speak differently were they to walk a mile in another mans shoes. The people of this nation better start giving thanks to God for his goodness to us or we may end up begging through the world.

    1. JYOTI KOTHARI profile image73
      JYOTI KOTHARIposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Rick,
      Nice post. Your statement is true many times. Politicians and Governments are corrupt in many places but not only in poor countries. It is true for rich countries too.
      Can we not see how American government shamelessly helped greedy banks?
      $ 700 B bail out? The money is taken out of tax payers' pocket to make FIs and banks wealthy.

      Thanks,
      Jyoti Kothari

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    Tina Ireneposted 7 years ago

    Whether a nation is "wealthy" or "poor", the poor will always be among us:

    "For the poor you have always with you..", Words of Christ in Matthew 26:11.

    1. JYOTI KOTHARI profile image73
      JYOTI KOTHARIposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Tina Irene,
      Thanks for a good post. Please post regularly in forum threads. You are welcome to forum.
      Thanks,
      Jyoti Kothari

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    poetlorraineposted 7 years ago

    have not read all posts..... maybe if money is not our god, god is our god, who knows????????

  30. Make  Money profile image73
    Make Moneyposted 7 years ago

    Matthew 19:23-24 "23 Then Jesus said to his disciples: Amen, I say to you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven."

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This is a great belief. Even if you are born with money it is still no good to have it. Better give it to the church eh?
      lol

      1. Valerie F profile image61
        Valerie Fposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        For a guy who's supposedly read the entire Bible, you certainly have a knack for taking a verse out of context. Surely you know Jesus had just prior to that asked a rich man to sell his possessions and give to the poor.

        1. earnestshub profile image87
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Well these guys must be considered poor, because they make more money from believers than some smaller countries, so I don't think you need to worry about that with me! smile

  31. Valerie F profile image61
    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    Speaking for my denomination, we've also founded more universities, hospitals, and more organizations geared for helping the poor with all that money than some small countries.

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Fair enough Valerie, you have mentioned this before, and I must agree. Some churches do very good work. smile

  32. Maria Cecilia profile image82
    Maria Ceciliaposted 6 years ago

    Nice to see fellow Filipinos here, marami pala tayo dito(opps forbidden) it took time for me to see you all guys for the longest time my followers are mostly from other countries.. but anyway i am proud of you guys...you all speak good english...hihihih

    Well moving on, I guess religion has nothing to do with the Philippines' poor economy...maybe their is a problem from the start, rooting from those countries that conquered our country.
    Wrong Identification of what the country needs is one reason. and I heard too, Philippines chose to learn to speak english, while other countries like Japan and others focus on Science...

    I agree with the guy who started this thread about the manner of Pinoys who laughed at some pinoys who speak bad english, e di ba dun sumikat si Jimmy Santos? hihihi...but anyways maybe that's the only thing that I do not like in our Country, when some read your work to check the grammar and not the content.. but above all I like all you guys here....let's continue hubbing and let's support each other

  33. pisean282311 profile image57
    pisean282311posted 6 years ago

    interestingly one of spiritual teacher recently said that poors are more god fearing and submissive ...may be that helps in carrying day to day life...

  34. pylos26 profile image76
    pylos26posted 6 years ago

    topgun wrote:  Majority of poor countries are the most religious ones, coincidence?

    surely, "they are grasping at straws".   A lack of education facilities and educators play a major role in poor countries taking the so called "easy way out" (that of religion) to avoid their horrible idea of death.

  35. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 6 years ago

    Many are poor because they have little knowledge. Ideal people to believe in a religion. Especially one promising an afterlife.
    They already know this life is gonna be bad, they're living it every day. smile
    Ignorance and religion are great bedfellows. smile

    1. hanging out profile image62
      hanging outposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      omg and you claim to feel for starving babies. Let me introduce you to irony.

      little knowledge accounts for north american poor perhaps but sheesh earnest there are so many modifiers on that how can you post something that narrow.
      resume: out of work for 2 yrs.. in a doctors realm that means you are outdated, fired from last job.. not even your fault the manager was a sexist jerk.. your chances for being hired are slimmed down. Came from ontario to BC as a nurse and you need 3000 dollars to complete extra training to work in your field.. etc etc.. in a third world country where many are starving well im sure you remember one of my other posts about nomads being stuck in countries with borders, dams plugging up the irrigation of farm lands. Too many tent makers in one tribe..
      ignorance and posts like this are good bedfellows but don't go blaming religion because the post was comprised of narrow minded stupidity.

      Mark 2:17   When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
      Does this need to be explained to you
      have a better day tomorrow

  36. janni321 profile image60
    janni321posted 6 years ago

    It is true but it is because of many factors when you compare it to the developed countries. Factors like lifestyle, education, unemployment, poverty and so on whatever comes into your mind.

 
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