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Out of all the beliefs in the world, only you are right!

  1. earnestshub profile image86
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    How can a logical human arrive at the conclusion that out of the thousands of different bible beliefs, only their's is right.
    Is that not a description of Megalomania?

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      Ghost32posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      One possibility, Earnest:  Each of us being right...for us.  Each creating his/her/its own Heaven/Hell/Whatever. 

      Ah, but thee referreth to the "Thou must believeth as I believeth or burneth in Helleth!"  Different  picture altogether, that. 

      Actually, the flaw in your question is the inclusion of the word "logical".  Have you ever known humans to be logical? lol

      1. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hey you are right buddy, no I guess we are not generally logical, but we can burst through sometimes! I do it on Wednesdays between 2 and 3pm! lol

        1. Carmen Borthwick profile image81
          Carmen Borthwickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          HaHaHa... what a coincidence, me too! Tomorrow it will be daylight savings time though... that should screw up our timing.

          1. earnestshub profile image86
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Is it possible to move our "logic time" forward an hour?

            1. Carmen Borthwick profile image81
              Carmen Borthwickposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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      SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Where you are mistaken is the fact that it isn't people who are right. It is not my way or the highway. It is God's way.

      Now, if you don't want to believe, that's fine. The insults you toss around are uncalled for. It reminds me of monkeys who throw dung. Maybe you are one who evolved from them?

      1. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Slimy.
        Believing you have the only truth has a name. I named it! smile

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      Marc Salyerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Are you singling out Bible beliefs alone or any and all beliefs?

      1. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Any beliefs that insist they are THE ONLY TRUTH, if you did not catch it. Does not have to be a religious belief either. smile

      2. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Bible beliefs.
        Other beliefs may have real support.
        Eg I believe the 12 valve four cylinder motor in my ute is just that. Someone may say it is a six cylinder, but you can count em. The workshop manual supports that and so does the manufacturer, and others who know the model would agree that it is a four cylinder.

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          Marc Salyerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Agreed and of course math doesn't leave much room for debate. But there are philosophical differences, political opinions, psychological debates, and scientists argue issues all of the time. The world of people is full of people's beliefs and each person may vary his or her belief with tedious little distinctions or with major differences. What makes any of them right or wrong?

        2. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          So let me get it straight my friend. Are you against THE TRUTH only when it is bible belief? Quran does not count? Global Warming does not count? Slap the kids or not do not count? Did I understand you correctly? smile

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's easy when a person has met the Author of the Book.

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      Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      One's relationship with God is completely personal, so it might seem that people act like "only their's is right".

      However, where the group-think comes in, i'm not quite sure.

    6. cheaptrick profile image74
      cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I completely agree with you.These people who think they know the REAL truth are diminishing MY credibility cause I am the only one who knows the REAL truth.Just last night God spoke to me very clearly,She said"Tomorrow,Italian sausage and meatballs",now thats a real truth if i ever heard one.

      Oh by the way,is Megalomania anywhere near Romania cause I didn't like it there.the women braid there arm pits?

      just a little joke bro...peace...

      1. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Are you sure they were Italian? lol I love Italian... smile

    7. Bibowen profile image89
      Bibowenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Excellent. All of the other beliefs about the Bible are wrong and only yours is right...

      1. Jerami profile image77
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

           Beliefs in the bible are all wrong.   The bible is correct!!!

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          Marc Salyerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          There are no correct beliefs in the Bible? I don't get it. I believe the Bible is God's Word. If that is wrong can the Bible be correct? What did you actually mean?

          1. Jerami profile image77
            Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

               The written word of the bible is true.
               Our beliefs that we think and try to put in the bible are flawed.

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              Marc Salyerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I was hoping that your comments would clear things up for me but I'm just as confused as before. I believe that many doctrines are errant in many ways and it is terrible when people "put them in the Bible" but what about the obvious teachings.

              ALL beliefs derived from the Word of God to man of all people are flawed? There are some pretty basic truths that I would include in "beliefs" that are hard to corrupt:
              Faith in Yeshua is the only way to the father.
              God created in six days and rested on the seventh.
              Yeshua is coming back.
              Weather one believes the Bible to be true or not, these are some basic teachings of the Word and belief in them is true to the Word.

              1. Jerami profile image77
                Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                   I don't know about streighting any thing out but what I think is that if God created everything in seven days he musta skiped a few million years between the first day and the second day and so on. Yea faith in Jesus that he died for our sins and rose again sounds good and TRUE to me.
                   The first description of Jesus that there ever wuz is that Jesus IS the word of GOD.  The bible wasn't courupped on the first sentence waz it. Jesus is the word of God.   Ya gotta believe in the word of God.  That is the only way to reach God is through his word (Jesus)  If ya know Jesus's word he will probably let ya into his fathers house.
                    The word died on the cross making another word be herd
                  The old covenant of the law died.  The new covenant of redemption rose up off tha cross.....   If ya want it;... here it is, come and get it ....but ya betta hurry cause it's going fast.  Just kiddin singin a song.   It is almost that easy sept ya gotta mean it in your heart. teasin don't count.

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                  Marc Salyerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You seem to agree that it doesn't matter that you or I or anyone believes what is written in the Bible. The Bible is correct. But everyone's beliefs in the Bible are all wrong? What does that mean?

      2. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That's a good one. I love it lol

        1. earnestshub profile image86
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Except that it is nonsensical it makes a lot of sense! smile

    8. AEvans profile image70
      AEvansposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You are correct. smile

    9. sooner than later profile image60
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      the process of elimination is actually very simple. First, one needs to find a church that follows the 10 commandments entirely. there is one true church and she is easy to find.

  2. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    No, this is a description of public education sad

    1. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm a product of public education smile

      1. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Your parents managed to balance it out, huge kudos to them smile

    2. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      hmmm, I think more indoctrination from parental traditions than public education. some parents control their children's beliefs starting at an early age. hmm

      1. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        True dat also. My point is parents cover the whole spectrum - some are thinking, some are controlling. But public education universally tends towards uniformity...

        1. rebekahELLE profile image92
          rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I guess it depends exactly what you're referring to.
          my sons lucked out on attending some decent schools with some excellent teachers, taught them how to think and question.

          1. Misha profile image75
            Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I bet people here on HP are not a typical bunch, at least those who stay here. They tend to be more thinking for themselves than average population. This might explain why we have such a high percentage of people whose teachers were really good, or who pick good teachers for their kids. smile

  3. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Hi, guys! Misha, LOVE the new pic!

  4. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    Hi Habee, love you grandson pic too smile

  5. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    BTW, Mish - don't be too hard on us public educators. We can only teach what they let us teach. And it gets worse every year. Glad I retired when I did!

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, no way I am being hard on teachers, they are between rock and stone!

      1. rmcrayne profile image94
        rmcrayneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        One of the most underrated, unappreciated jobs ever.  Thanks for your service habee.

        1. earnestshub profile image86
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Teachers are my heroes. I know so many dedicated teachers. smile

          1. Sexy jonty profile image59
            Sexy jontyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Ya .... same thing goes with me .... I am agree with you ....

            1. earnestshub profile image86
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It warms my heart to hear that! Thank you for supporting the true hearts of so many good people. All the ones I know personally are passionate about the children and their needs. smile

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        Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Even us Preschool teachers, Misha? lol and love the new pic

  6. earnestshub profile image86
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    I am sorry Misha, I always complain about your avatar. You look exhausted!How about the nice close up again? smile
    Hi Habee. smile I do like yours though!

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL I can't please everybody at once sad

      1. quietnessandtrust profile image59
        quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Misha looks like he never turns down a good drink lol big_smile

  7. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Thanks, Earnesto!

    You're right, Misha. It's a tough job.

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile

    2. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL This has to be a granddaughter. She's cute smile

  8. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Just can't decide on my new avatar...we have so many cute Halloween pics of the grands!

    Earnest, do you guys trick or treat?

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Some of us with little ones do, although it is not a local tradition.
      I am planning a full Halloween for my three youngest GK's for next year. smile

    2. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Habee the little one is so cute! I really like both of them.... what use am I? lol

  9. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Back to the topic - I think one problem is that the Bible was written by men - not God.

  10. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    I think one problem is that some parents want their children to believe as they do and won't accept anything different.

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well it is always really nice speaking with you Colebabie, as you can obviously keep your own councel. smile

      1. Colebabie profile image61
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks earnest, it is always nice talking with you as well smile

    2. Carmen Borthwick profile image81
      Carmen Borthwickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well, colour me purple, I wanted my kids to decide on their own what to believe or not believe. Parents that 'urge' their children to only accept what they believe are most likely asking for trouble.

  11. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Right, Cole. And another problem is that some religious sects get too obsessed with one verse. Like snake handlers, for example. We have those around here. Scary.

  12. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    It's not only about religion. Look at politics forums, look at parenting forums, just look around. The prevailing motto - my opinion is right, and it is THE ONLY RIGHT OPINION. Isn't that what all of us are taught in schools? "There is only one correct answer to this question children, please learn it by heart. All other answers are wrong." sad

  13. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Well as far as schools I guess I was lucky then? I was always taught to express my opinion and be open to discussion at both home and school. I dunno what it is, but some people just can't stand the fact that they may not be right. That what they have dedicated their life to studying, living, learning, preaching etc. is either bull shit or just not the only "right" way.

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You are really is an odd fruit Cole. Looking around, I can recall not more than a handful of guys and gals of your age who are about as mature as you. smile

      countrywomen, girly_girl, likely Luke... who else?

      1. Colebabie profile image61
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You should meet my friends, they would amaze you!!!

        1. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Kind of a hard task a few thousand miles apart, unless you bring them up to Hubpages wink

  14. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    I honestly tried to teach my students to think, and since I taught writing and literature, there were few right/wrong answers. Much of it was interpretation. I've never thought much of filling a youth's head with facts and having them regurgitate it on a "test."

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I feel a personal understanding of what you mean by teaching children to think.
      I feel I had that opportunity in my life. Teachers are my heroes.

    2. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Lucky your students are smile

      I have to admit my teachers were good at that, too smile

      But it is really hard to do, especially under the pressure they felt in the USSR, and the pressure that you have in USA nowadays...

  15. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    And a lot of people research ways to prove those who don't believe as they do wrong. Rather than using their time to make the world better and just saying "Ya know what?!?! If someone doesn't believe what I do, thats cool. I believe what I believe and as long as I'm happy and a good person, its ok."

  16. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Yes, Misha. It got to the point where we spent more time on state-mandated rules and filling out forms and papers than we did teaching.

  17. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    Having a bad day SirDent? lol

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      SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Not at all. Just tired of the crap.

      1. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Well, yeah, don;t envy you on this. Yet you chose yourself to associate yourself with Ernest's target. To be fair you did not know Ernest would come at the time, may be it's time to reconsider? wink

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          SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I fully expected Earnest to see it and reply to it. I stand by what I said also.

      2. Colebabie profile image61
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah I was just told in another forum that I will be burning in hell. So I know what you mean. smile

        1. Carmen Borthwick profile image81
          Carmen Borthwickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I've been told I would burn in hell since I was four and couldn't recite one of about twenty verses from the bible in Sunday school. The teacher always called me Carmen Poopwick instead of Borthwick... biatch. Refused to go back after that!

          1. Colebabie profile image61
            Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            big_smile
            Basically I was trying to tell SirDent that there is crap from both sides. People telling him his religion is bull, and people telling me that I'm going to hell because I don't follow a religion. Everyone should just relax.

            1. Misha profile image75
              Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              With you? Any time tongue

              1. Colebabie profile image61
                Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Sure, with me. Everyone would be much happier if they relaxed with me for a day smile

                1. Misha profile image75
                  Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  May be I should fly to Florida. For a day smile

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          SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Would you rather not be wanred of what might happen?

          1. Colebabie profile image61
            Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yeah we're done here.

            1. drej2522 profile image85
              drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Some people....Only religions bring about so much controversy. Where judgements upon judgements mount up.

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            Hell N0posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            The only thing I would need to be "wanred" of Dent, is that you or any heller is entering the room about to preach your crap.  If I'm not in the mood to laugh I'd have to leave.  How's that latest hell hub comming?

      3. gary777g profile image79
        gary777gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You came to the wrong place to avoid crap. 

        If you want to walk in the grass where no dogs have been, you must go where no dogs go.

        Welcome to the dogpark.

  18. drej2522 profile image85
    drej2522posted 7 years ago

    or two..or three smile

  19. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    Then I have to bring kids and wife with me, and it is not going to be THAT relaxing tongue

    1. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      just take them to the beach. it was 87 degrees here today.  cool

      colebabie, where are you in fl?

      1. Colebabie profile image61
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        South, Broward/Palm Beach area

        1. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ah, you are teasing me girls smile

          1. rebekahELLE profile image92
            rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            ah misha, the sun is always shining. wink

            1. Misha profile image75
              Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I would go in a heartbeat. Wife's work, kids' school...

              1. rebekahELLE profile image92
                rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                yes, just teasing. smile  playing around, it's only midnight.

      2. drej2522 profile image85
        drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        yeah...it would be a great time. bring the family, relax with Colebabie. It's the best of all worlds! hrmmm

  20. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    smile I wish people could learn to do it on their own. But I understand its not that easy. And I am lucky.

  21. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Haha. It was beautiful today. I went to a football game smile No clouds in the sky. It would be relaxing, promise.

  22. drej2522 profile image85
    drej2522posted 7 years ago

    same here..sounds fun and very relaxing.

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    Kind of weird that people think no one should teach their own kids what they believe is true. So are you non-bible believers teaching your children about bible beliefs in a way that allows them to consider they might be true?
    Or does that only apply to ones who DO believe in the bible that should not teach their children what they believe?

    Of course parents are to teach littles what to believe and what is true. They need a basis to start from, if parents teach what they think is a lie, they end up with kids who have no stability at all. If they grow up and disagree with what the parents believe, at least they know (and openly say) their parents did their best and they loved them.

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No. Parents should teach that there are several approaches. And let them choose for themselves. Otherwise we get what we have. smile

      1. drej2522 profile image85
        drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ah, that's actually not bad..There should be a world religions course in every household!

  24. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Taking your child to church, or letting them know your own belief is fine. But if they make the decision to not follow your beliefs and you are not ok with that, nope not cool. My story is different, I wrote a hub about it. But growing up I went with my friends to church/temple. My parents were always ok with it. They would ask me questions about what I learned, how I liked it. They told me what they believed, I learned other ways through my friends, and then I made the decision for myself.

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      *where was my bowing smiley?*

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    Not when they're very small - all they do when you give them a choice is ask which they should choose, what's the RIGHT choice. There's a reason littles try to please their parents, they need direction for a long time. Giving too many choices and no clear answers is mean, it would be nice if we didn't have to clarify our own beliefs to know what to teach them but that's a parent's job. It's an abdication of responsibility to not tell children what's true and what isn't and leaving it up to them to figure out before their brains are capable of doing so.

    1. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      But as far as religion is concerned, who is anyone to say what is "true"? Thats the whole point of this thread.

      1. drej2522 profile image85
        drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        agreed. Example here: Your father is Catholic, your mother is Muslim...which one is the "truth"...and don't cop out here on this one by injecting your personal beliefs here!

    2. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's nice that different parents have different views on this. I disagree, and people like Colebabie is a good example why I disagree. smile

  26. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    But what religious influence do you have on a 3 year old?

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    Depends on what you mean by religious - intellectual or experiential? When a child feels spirit and love emanating from you, that's how you influence a three year old. Intellectual? For a child who believes, apparently FULLY believes, that a crocodile bit his leg and that's where he got that little microscopic scrape? None. (No, we don't have crocodiles around here!)

    1. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      But spirit and love doesn't have to relate to religion. Basically what I'm trying to say is that there can be some religious influence on a young child, but usually the influence that affects life decisions is a little later in life. And at that point, in my belief, it is up to the parent to be open and honest with their child.

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    according to your father, catholicism is true, according to your mother, islam is true. are you suggesting neither parent should teach anything?

    1. drej2522 profile image85
      drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm suggesting what was said eariler. To teach multiple religions and let the child decide.

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    Open and honest means telling their child what they believe to be true.
    As far as teaching little children, I've gotten the impression from remarks in the forums that anyone teaching their children anything about their religious beliefs (christian anyway) should be drawn and quartered for practicing child abuse. That's what I object to, parents teach what they believe. I'd rather a child be taught religion that he can leave as a child than be taught to be a criminal - something parents teach also.

    1. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Of course not. And if you read the posts prior they say that parents should teach what they believe but be open to their children learning about other beliefs. I am not against parents discussing their personal beliefs with their children, mine did it with me. But I am against parents who want their children to follow in their footsteps and would not accept them if they did not.

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    It must just be the attitudes toward christianity that i object to. I was raised an atheist, never allowed to accept anything without proof from anyone including my parents. Science disproved religion as far as my dad was concerned. BUT since he is a scientist, our home was full of the new discoveries that disproved what had been "known" the year before. All I got was that nothing is true, no one and nothing is to be trusted, life sucks and then you die. I was lucky, God showed me that life has a whole other dimension that I hadn't known about before. Teaching my own boys about love and all the biblical virtues was no hardship though I think I managed to teach each of them a completely different "religion" as I learned.

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    Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago

    Was there a memo about the apocalypse I missed tonight whats with all the religious talk and doom and gloom. They're coming out of the woodwork. big_smile

  32. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    And that is your personal experience. Yes some have negative attitudes toward christianity as a whole. I see that your personal experience has maybe made you sensitive to those who oppose your religion. And like anything else that is important to someone you feel you must defend it when it is being attacked. I'm sure you know that you have great influence over your children. But if they decide to not follow the path that you have chosen, as a parent you love them and accept them, which I'm sure you will because you did not have a positive experience as a child.

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      TMinutposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I can't claim to really be a christian, I don't believe the things taught in churches usually. It's the whole "anyone who is a christian is a fool and delusional" that I object to. And saying that no one should teach their children what those other people don't believe in.

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    colebabie, YOUR posts aren't like that but some definitely are.

    scott, doom and gloom? You mean in the other threads perhaps. It must be getting late, suddenly your pic looks so much like my baby brother that I'm about to ask. But I've seen the pic before and haven't thought that so guess I'll say good night.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah there's like 8 threads running right now about religion....

      1. drej2522 profile image85
        drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        that's normal at this time of night...

  34. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    I understand that. And I don't think it is right. But people can say what they want. The whole point of this thread was questioning how someone could think that they are right when there are so many beliefs in this world. Then your comments regarding parenting lead me to make the statement that parents shouldn't force their religion on their children. Sometimes there is a fine line between "forcing" and "teaching". And in my opinion, parents shouldn't cross it smile

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    Okay, teaching and forcing, that's all you mean, sure I agree with that. Besides, "forcing" a child to believe something is not only not going to work but seems to be more likely to make them choose the opposite, at least for a while!

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Nah, it's rather about indoctrinating or brainwashing, whichever word you prefer. Done with skill, those work. smile

      1. drej2522 profile image85
        drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I just want to brainwash Colebabie that I'm the one for her. smile

        1. Colebabie profile image61
          Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hehe. Good luck! It won't be easy! smile

    2. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah its kinda a mix of what Misha said. Basically if you provide no other option you are "forcing" someone.

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        Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Kind of like saying omitting the truth is not lying, it's really the same thing.

  36. drej2522 profile image85
    drej2522posted 7 years ago

    so there's a chance. Yessss!

    and, apparently, I'm 14 now.

  37. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Huh?

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You are risking to become a virtual child molester lol

      Good night everybody smile

  38. drej2522 profile image85
    drej2522posted 7 years ago

    I'm just critiquing on how I am 'acting'.

  39. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Oh ok. Gotcha. Yeah I don't like it when people put me down because of my age. Well off to get a little more use out of my costume
    Have a good night everyone smile

  40. drej2522 profile image85
    drej2522posted 7 years ago

    ha...misha..later man!

  41. Sexy jonty profile image59
    Sexy jontyposted 7 years ago

    yes ..... I think it's true .........

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    How can a logical human arrive at the conclusion that out of the thousands of different bible beliefs, only theirs is right?

    Do you think it would be logical for them to assume theirs is wrong? This is why so many people are out there spreading their beliefs, or trying to. They think they found out something of major importance and are making sure no one is left without the chance to know.

    1. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

         And the truth is that it is later than anyone thinks.

  43. goldenpath profile image80
    goldenpathposted 7 years ago

    Our faith has always instructed it's membership that most all faiths contain bits, pieces and segments of truth for we all have much to learn from one another.  The test is using the spirit of discernment to choose for oneself whether it be true or untrue.  We must be open to new knowledge and ideas.  Of course the Holy Bible is not complete for it was not written beginning to end in it's current form.  It is a compilation of letters, addresses and records.  It would be folly to believe that the "complete" word is contained within that sacred work.  I am currently preparing a hub on this particular subject.

    This is why I, personally, thirst for knowledge of what others believe.  Together we may be perfected.  To claim absolute salvation because of one's affiliation to an organization or system of belief is prideful and will lead you on a damaging path.  Exactly like a compass.  You may wonder off course a little bit but at the end your destination has become way off track.  This mindset is, in essence, tunnel vision and prevents you from seeing beyond the walls you have set up for yourself. 

    Think of it this way.  If the Almighty didn't approve of variety we would not exist as individual human beings with our own mind, heart soul and most of all - liberty to choose...

  44. Jerami profile image77
    Jeramiposted 7 years ago

    Sorry I missed a question.   Jesus comin back;  haven't ya heard !!!   He already did come back.  About thirty years after the desciples said that he haddn't come back yet.
       About 60 years after he said that he was comin back soon. 
       What?   You missed tha party???   ME TOO.

  45. Jerami profile image77
    Jeramiposted 7 years ago

    If ya take every denominational belief system in the world and write them down.
        Study them all and cross off all of them that contradict each other; what ya got left that is not crossed off will have some truth to it.

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      Marc Salyerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Salvation by faith in Yeshua.

      What part of that would you say is true?

      1. Jerami profile image77
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I was just saying that there are way too many interpretations of scripture. How many of those interpretations do you suppose are true to scripture.
           Yeshua (Jesus) is the only way to the father.
        He is the Way, He is Truth, He is the Light. Of all things that he is, it is first written that he is the WORD OF GOD,

            To say salvation is by faith in the  WORD OG GOD   would not sound as inclusive.  I am not so sure that YA HAVE TO BE a Christian to have faith in the Word of God??  I do not know ??

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Have you never heard of the Hindu masters the Holy Vedas, Bhagwat Gita, Zaratushtra -Zend Avista?
          They existed much earlier than Jesus.

          1. Jerami profile image77
            Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

               I have never read them but from what I have heard you talking about; I would have to say that I can't argue about much of what you have said.  If I did it would be concerning  degerees of depth and intensity of absolute-ness.  Seems to me that we are saying almost tha same thing looking at it from tha other side of the fince.

  46. earnestshub profile image86
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    You'll notice that with megalomania
    the people all think they are brainier
    The sad truth is they
    washed their brains right away
    which leave them a little insaneia

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    Giggity giggity goo.

  48. earnestshub profile image86
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    Don't you mean the 615 commandments?
    You will be pleased to see the ten commandments are replete with the usual psychotic threats! lol

    1. aka-dj profile image80
      aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well, no, not really.
      Here's the last one
      "Love one another, as I have lived you"
      That's the one that counts!big_smile

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    Schwing!

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Schwing? smile

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        Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Nice take on the church.

  50. The Rope profile image61
    The Ropeposted 7 years ago

    Oh "lordy", Earnest, you just had to start this didn't you? tongue

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Where there's a need....... smile

      1. The Rope profile image61
        The Ropeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I have truly come to appreciate you...you always bring a smile - and a challenge.  wink

        1. earnestshub profile image86
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You're too kind! And if you are on the other side of the argument I really mean too kind! lol
          Have you seen my lovely religious hub? smile

          1. The Rope profile image61
            The Ropeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            In the words of Mae West "Dahling, I've read 'em all"...  Been following you for some time.

            1. earnestshub profile image86
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              That is nice to know, although I would like to say I am updating all the time, so some of the old ones are not as sloppy! Really I am chuffed, by the way MAe West cracked me up! She was one funny truck driver! I mean lady. smile

 
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