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The mind of a Marine and The mind of The Messiah---A view =)

  1. underhiswings profile image60
    underhiswingsposted 7 years ago

    Mind of Messiah =

    No greater love does a man have but to sacrifice his life for his friends and fellow man, no matter who they are.

    Mind of Marine =

    No greater duty above the sacrificing of his own life for the lives of his fellow Marines and the lives of others.

    Mind of Messiah = Always Faithful

    Mind of Marine = Semper Fidelis

    Perhaps both defy logic.

    1. cheaptrick profile image74
      cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm a Marine and your God damn Right...

      1. Daniel Carter profile image90
        Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        There's just too much irony in this comment, cheaptrick.
        lol

    2. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      They both defy logic.
      Humans are defying logic all the time. (Marines are humans.)
      That's why the world is such a mess

      Messiah is an Idealism
      so it defies logic per se.

      1. cheaptrick profile image74
        cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Untill YOU experience combat and watch your brothers die around you your opinion means NOTHING!How can you apply a philosophical bullshit statement to a Pragmatic experience where you die if you stop to THINK let alone be logical?

        1. tantrum profile image60
          tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What does all your comment has to do with my post ?????

          And if you are a marine and in combat you didn't stop to think or use your logic, it's a miracle you're alive !

          So don't give me that kind of BS to me !

          1. cheaptrick profile image74
            cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            When a Marine goes through boot he is trained to go on Automatic,no thinking or logic required or do you suppose we wave a white flag so we can think of the logical thing to do.Again,if you haven't been there don't act the expert.Your statement that "marines are human,thats why the world is such a mess" is an Insult to the Good men who gave there LIVES so you could have the freedom to engage in blind and insensitive statements.And yes madam I am most assuredly a Marine.

            1. tantrum profile image60
              tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I didn't say that marines were the ones that made the world such a mess.
              I said 'humans'
              and in brackets , 'marines'. And I said 'marines for marinwalways, of course!
              Isn't this thread about him ???? yikes

              Why don't you read properly ???
              don't you know the word IRONY ??
              GIVE ME A BREAK !

  2. Randy Godwin profile image93
    Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago

    Wow, that is so deep!  Did you make that up yourself.  Perhaps you are ready to make that big step and actually write a hub.  By the way, why are you here?

  3. yoshi97 profile image87
    yoshi97posted 7 years ago

    Actually, I prefer the old Hubpages over the newly found Marinepages. smile

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      But, isn't there something to be learned?

      Then, if you don't learn- Aren't you forcing yourself to be ignorant on purpose?

      All knowledge, regardless of what form it comes in is to be absorbed and understood for what it is?

      No knowledge gained from learning can be useless.

      1. Shadesbreath profile image89
        Shadesbreathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Your point relies on the term knowledge. I agree with you in the general principle, but not in the particular application. An intelligent person can sift through the dross and find value in most anything.  However, the ability to do so does not make the dross itself less, uh, drossy.  An unintelligent person, unfortunately, can't spot dross for dross and typically, well, they usually embarass themselves, albeit, by the grace of God, often without realizing it; the irony being that "you don't know what you don't know" even when discussing knowledge itself.

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You make an assumption that at least some people are unintelligent.

          Who are you to judge whether or not someone else's intelligence is anything other than what it is? When you make assumptions on unrealized information, it's usually wrong, as you are now.

          Learning is the process in which we gain knowledge, "knowledge being everything we know" and happens to be reinforced by understanding, "understanding is the wisdom to understand(to realize what it means) everything you know".

          This is the only way to remain true and honest with oneself and be on firm foundation for forming beliefs, which are based on factual truths, mankind has as a collective.

          You live your life in any other manner and you'll stumble thru life, all the way to the end.

          1. Shadesbreath profile image89
            Shadesbreathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Are you saying all people are of equal intelligence?



            I never said I judge anyone's intelligence as anything other than what it is.  Observing behavior is not passing judgement.



            I'll grant you this point, even though "usually" weakens your point, being unquantifiable and all, and the phrase "assumptions on unrealized information" doesn't actually mean anything (it's like your thesaurus threw up on  you right there).



            You'd have to A) identify what it was that I said that you are saying is "wrong" and then B) prove it to be wrong, neither of which has occured.



            Yes, and...?



            You almost have an complete idea here between this part and the one above, but the connection isn't made. Still, I think you're going for an overall positive message, so I won't dissagree, but  I still have to call this a non-sequitur.

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It's obvious, there is a positiveness to what I said. How ever, when people make an assumption? It means 'unrealized information' or knowledge isn't known in it's entirety.

              Therefore- "assumptions on unrealized information" is a properly understood statement if seen in the context for which it is written and not how you come to perceive it.

              You interpreting my words is useless, without asking to me to explain, because your individual faith is going to force you to ask more questions. I don't speak cryptically or hide what I am trying to explain.

              I live by my conscience, I am always honest in my actions and I protect and love mankind's people and their potential. All I seek is to spread knowledge.

              1. Shadesbreath profile image89
                Shadesbreathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Then it's redundant.  An assumption by definition requires an absence of information, ignorance.  You are basically saying "assumptions based on ignorance."  That's like saying "heat based on increased thermal energy" or saying "wet with moisture."



                If you don't speak cryptically or hide what you are trying to say, why will my efforts to interpret your words be "useless?"  Regardless of whatever my "individual faith" is, if your message is clear and well made I should be able to understand it, whether I agree, disagree or some of each.


                That's great, and I'm totally with you on all of it except the knowledge part.  You've brought that up a time or two now.  I'm still waiting to see what all this knowledge you have to spread is. I like knowledge.

                1. Cagsil profile image60
                  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Are you not paying attention to everything I've posted?

                  I'm not surprised. How ever, you have the nerve to try to interpret what I say. You're pathetic too.

                  Why don't you read everything I've posted here and other place, and get more information. Everything you need to know, I have already said, somewhere....if you're that interested, then seek out the knowledge yourself. I don't need to explain myself or what I say to you, when I've already put the knowledge you seek into the world.

                  Guide yourself and go find it.

                  1. Shadesbreath profile image89
                    Shadesbreathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I was paying attention to what you wrote here. I guess I assume you intend to say what you mean when you write stuff.  Silly me. Clearly I am supposed to be bedazzled by obscurities and nebulous pseudo-logic.



                    I haven't tried to interpret anything.  More like tried to make sense of it.  Vagaries and random assembly of multisyllabic nonsense does not make tea leaves of your text.



                    If you want to put on the Internet Messiah costume, that's fine, but name calling will blow some of the magic off your mystery. You can't claim to have all this knowledge that you're putting into the world for the humble masses hungering for your beneficent gift of wisdom and then let yourself get so easily rattled by someone who asks a few questions and points out some inconsistencies or omissions in the things you write to the point where you start calling names.

    2. rmcrayne profile image94
      rmcrayneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Crazd said marine got banned too.  Looks like his last forum post was almost 24 hrs ago.  His current "forum" is his latest hub, Scientist/Monkey.

  4. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Oh, Yoshi, u no like?

    1. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You've got a 100! cool!

  5. h.a.borcich profile image60
    h.a.borcichposted 7 years ago

    I am with Yoshi smile

  6. terrowhite profile image60
    terrowhiteposted 7 years ago

    Ohh is that so Yoshi?

  7. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Hi, RD. Yep, I'm in shock. We've been out all evening. I got home and went to HP and saw it. I'm trying to enjoy it now - it won't last long!!

    1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image90
      mistyhorizon2003posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Congrats on 100 score Habee, you deserve it smile

  8. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Thanks, Misty! So do you. Many hubbers here deserve a score of 100, IMO.

  9. underhiswings profile image60
    underhiswingsposted 7 years ago

    Can we not hijack the thread ??

    1. rmcrayne profile image94
      rmcrayneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Is this thread sacred, and immune from hijacking where others are not?

  10. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    And I'm sure marinealways agrees with you smile

    1. emievil profile image84
      emievilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Speaking of marine, where is he?

  11. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 7 years ago

    Man, some hubbers' children!  Let's just chew these subjects to death!  Doesn't anyone want to go shopping?  How about a game of jacks?  tiddlywinks? semper fi!

  12. Jerami profile image78
    Jeramiposted 7 years ago

    Cagsil  said   You make an assumption that at least some people are unintelligent.

    Who are you to judge whether or not someone else's intelligence is anything other than what it is? When you make assumptions on unrealized information, it's usually wrong, as you are now.

    Learning is the process in which we gain knowledge, "knowledge being everything we know" and happens to be reinforced by understanding, "understanding is the wisdom to understand(to realize what it means) everything you know".

    This is the only way to remain true and honest with oneself and be on firm foundation for forming beliefs, which are based on factual truths, mankind has as a collective.

    You live your life in any other manner and you'll stumble thru life, all the way to the end.
    Posted 23 minutes agoquote/replyreportpermalink


       I could not have said this any better.  ...
    You should read this  and fully understand this mr. Cagsil

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Really? WOW!

      As per usual, you're not really any help.

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    Justine76posted 7 years ago

    didnt somebody want to go shopping?

  14. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    Internet Messiah Costume

    That was funny ! lol lol lol

    Hey cagsil ! big_smile

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hey Tantrum,

      How are you today?

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        WET

        It's raining !big_smile

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol

    2. wyanjen profile image90
      wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol

      Shall I photoshop you a new avatar Ray?

      Isn't Internet Messiah one of the songs from Hair?

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        If you feel the need to Jen, be my guest. lol

        And, "Internet Messiah", don't know. big_smile

        1. wyanjen profile image90
          wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I'll be firing it up later to do some graphics...
          I feel slightly inspired...
          smile

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Then you go with your inspiration and do what you feel is correct. Therefore, I'll leave it in your capable hands. big_smile

  15. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Tantrum, if you don't soon get a new avatar I'm gonna fall in love with you.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile
      Be my guest !

  16. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    You are such a wanton vixen!

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol
      I'm innocent !

  17. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Cagsil doesn't know. I'm gonna lie down and die now...

    1. wyanjen profile image90
      wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Deep breath... in, 1-2-3, out 1-2-3...

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol lol lol

    2. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You do realize, you're mocking efforts are being wasted on me, when you could be using them on or in more meaningful ways.

      I've never claimed to have all the answers, everyone wants.

      I have claimed that I have ALL the answer I need for my life. How ever, that doesn't mean, I don't have anything to learn.

  18. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Thanks, Jen. I don't feel quite so dizzy now.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      what were you dying for ?

    2. wyanjen profile image90
      wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's not as bad as it may seem.
      I'm pretty sure Einstein himself would look at me, shrug, and say "Don't know".

      I should maybe stop living on the fringe... lol

  19. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Cagsil is mad at me... I am very sad.

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Mad at you? lol

    2. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Is that what you really think?

  20. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    I love the drama !
    big_smile

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Isn't it so much fun? NOT! big_smile

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    We all  need a good drunk. Here I am!

    1. wyanjen profile image90
      wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Where were you yesterday when I needed a good drunk?

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        ralwusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        busy,  now I'm busy gittin' drunk an it's Niteriders  fault. I got into my hidden hootch.

  22. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Yep, I'm pretty sure tantrum loves the drama. And yes, I am very sad. Sack they call me.

    1. wyanjen profile image90
      wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      hmm...

      I hate to see you sad Sack.

    2. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Don't be sad !
      Cagsil doesn't deserve your tears !
      big_smile

  23. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Thank you, my love.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hey ! hop here with me !. Let's have fun !! big_smile

  24. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Ralwus, that hussy tantrum is giving me the old tease. Smack hi... her will ya?

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      ??????
      R U afraid ?? big_smile

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      ralwusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'll  spank  her for me, not for you. That's yer job. LOl Sheesh! I'm  gittin pretty high here already.

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol lol

      2. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol lol

  25. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    I'm afraid that you're rejecting my love.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      i'm not !
      you're toooo serious, mon ami ! big_smile

  26. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    CC, you're my hero! I have to depart now. Work calls. Best wishes to all.

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Bye Niteriter big_smile

    2. wyanjen profile image90
      wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Take care

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Tahnks for gettin me drunk.

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    I  think I may fall of my chair now, the moonshine is too much!

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol lol lol

      1. wyanjen profile image90
        wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Sounds like you got ahold of the good stuff wink

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I had nothing to do with what Ralwus was drinking. He had that himself. lol lol

          1. wyanjen profile image90
            wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol
            You're saying that you are NOT the Designated Driver To Drink?

            There are quite a few on the forums that can drive me to drink.
            It seems like many of them are absent, these last three days... lol

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              lol

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    I  did,  now I'm havin strong coffee. LOL

  30. wyanjen profile image90
    wyanjenposted 7 years ago

    Ahh, but you do not know what lurks beneath the surface...

    May it be Bailey's? Kahlua perhaps?

  31. glendoncaba profile image82
    glendoncabaposted 7 years ago

    Religion forum gets a bad rap because people do all their venting here.

    Imagine i took this place serious when I first arrived on HP.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol

  32. underhiswings profile image60
    underhiswingsposted 7 years ago

    I must have overlooked the comments from Marinealways24 ?

  33. underhiswings profile image60
    underhiswingsposted 7 years ago

    Did you comment in here yet Derek?

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol
      He's busy trying to put his ideas in order.

      1. underhiswings profile image60
        underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I just thought maybe he missed it. big_smile

        1. tantrum profile image60
          tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You're too kind, under! big_smile

 
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