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Jesus vs Mohammed

  1. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Which one is more ridiculous, Jesus or Mohammed?

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Prime example:

      Jesus- a conscious sentient human being.

      Mohammad- an unconscious, nature driven human being.

      No comparison.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Both believed divine through faith.

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Also not true.

      2. TMMason profile image74
        TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Well. That sums it up nicely, I think. I agree fully.

        There really is no comparison between the two, even in purely human terms.

    2. Make  Money profile image73
      Make Moneyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I see you forgot to take your meds again marine.

    3. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Why are you insulting the Christian and Muslim prophets?
      Humans on this planet have a lot of respect for both these masters , your question is ridiculous.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Both are an illusion of peace.

        1. tksensei profile image60
          tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          That is not correct.

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yes it is. They create the illusion of peace to the believers by separating them from non believers. Non believers disrupt the peace of the one belief.

            1. tksensei profile image60
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              No, that is not correct. You don't have to support either religion, but that is not correct. You don't have to be scared of religion because it involves community. That is the point of most religions. Your family is not "an illusion of peace" because it is distinct from other families and because if pressed you would defend it.

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I admit, many good things come out of some religions in the charity aspect of helping people. I may be religious if they were simply about good and helping people without trying to govern the conscience and telling non believers they are the devil. Another spot I think religion is flawed, I like to do good things for the simple pleasure of making others and myself feel good, I don't do good things in expection of a favored afterlife.

                I think religion creates the illusion of finding yourself when it does everything possible to corrupt and get rid of individuals.

                1. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I respect all religions and anyone calling you a devil because you don't believe in god is a nut case, ignore such threats  .
                  Religion are teachings of great master who want to free you rather than enslave you, finding god is freedom.

                  1. marinealways24 profile image60
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I still believe in an individual possibility of a creator or creators and can see why many religious make believers or theist turn atheist. I think a lot of religious try to make you hate them for not sharing their group belief.

                2. aguasilver profile image87
                  aguasilverposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  "govern the conscience and telling non believers they are the devil."

                  The word 'conscience ' translates 'con' (with) 'science'(knowledge)and in a Christians case the knowledge is the bible and teachings of Christ, so it's not so much that the religion governs the conscience, more that the Christian governs their conscience in accordance with the teaching of their God.

                  As for telling non believers they are the devil, again it is accepted fact (for Christians)that there are two forces at work in the world, and that each individual is under the authority of one or the other.

                  Where the confusion arises is in instances, such as this post, where the unbeliever (as defined by Christianity) assumes that this means we believers consider non believers to be actual devils, that's not true, we simply understand that if there are only two forces to be under the authority of, and someone declines to be under one of them, they must be under the authority of the other.

                  As most people believe they control their own lives, it is not surprising that they cannot understand nor condone any concept that sets them under the control of any other entity.

                  They reject God, but equally reject the devil.

                  Which is fine, but that being the case, why be concerned about what  Christian states, for if the non believers premise is correct, they have nothing to be concerned about, for if neither God nor the devil exists, what's the problem?

                  Finally Christians do not lose their individuality, indeed I see far greater variety amongst believers than I do in many other groups, what Christians choose to do is submit their will to the will of God, which means that they no longer worship the individual, they recognise that their self willed individuality was actually suppressing who they really are in spiritual terms.

                3. tksensei profile image60
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  The problem you need to work out is with YOU and not with religion.

        2. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          No they do stand for peace.

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            No, that is the illusion. They create peace on the inside by getting rid of individuals and separating the believers. If there were individuals in the religion, there wouldn't be peace. This is proven on the forums.

          2. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Peace is unity, not separatism through a favored group belief.

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              sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Like atheism?

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                What is atheism?

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  It's a belief system to choose to not believe. The system consists of a bunch of nutters that what to ruin religion and restrict it to a closet activity.

                  1. Presigo profile image61
                    Presigoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Very well stated !

                  2. marinealways24 profile image60
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Chooses not to believe what?

                  3. earnestshub profile image89
                    earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I resemble that remark!! lol lol

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                    (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    And, you see no contradiction in your claim?



                    Religion has been ruling our world for centuries and look at the mess its made of it. Religion has had its reign, and now its well past its prime. Time for other solutions.

            2. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Yes the idea is to unite humanity and not separate.

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      (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The mythical character known as Jesus never claimed to talk with angels, if that warrants mention.

      It would appear that Muhammad was more interested in military conquest and power while Jesus was just a hippie.

    5. pylos26 profile image77
      pylos26posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      sounds like a pretty good match...jesus is said to have been a lazy bastard and mohammad was a frickin mule driver.

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That is a tough one.  Let's see.

      Mo had to climb a latter that fell out of heaven so that he could climb up.

      Jesus was taken up by a cloud...


      Mo for sure!  He might still be climbing. lol

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      SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Marinealways24

    8. prettydarkhorse profile image64
      prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      they are both great and have followers, but I am a christian, but I respect  Mohammed too,

      does it mean Christ is also ridiculous? more you said?

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        If you want my sincere opinion, yes, I think both are ridiculous. I respect you believing whatever makes you happy.

        1. prettydarkhorse profile image64
          prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          but can you be like me, respecting others opinion too, like not posting things like this,

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I think if people were more logical in belief, they wouldn't get so offended. If we were all politically correct, we wouldn't know the meaning of politically incorrect.

            1. prettydarkhorse profile image64
              prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              you are not correct and you are not correct, I am correct in my opinion, as you are too, respect is all

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I agree, we are all right. That's one of the reasons I believe nothing is absolute and everyone is insane. I think we all know nothing in the belief we know something.

  2. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    Both are fairly matched. smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL I agree.

  3. SparklingJewel profile image64
    SparklingJewelposted 7 years ago

    what do you think is ridiculous about them? It's hard to answer when you are not specific. smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What is different about them? Is one better than the other?

  4. Bovine Currency profile image60
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    i think this is geting a bit ridiculous.  Is your beef even with the prophets?  In my eyes anyway, both jesus and mohammed were trying to preach tolerance.  Unfortunately, their words have been appropriated by the church and more often than not, but not always, these words are effectively silenced.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol Ridiculous? Whats ridiculous is that people are still tricked by religion.

      1. Bovine Currency profile image60
        Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I get that much but that has nothing to do with Jesus or Mo

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, the beliefs are based on them. Maybe not based, but they are the main characters.

          1. Bovine Currency profile image60
            Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I disagree.  I can only speak for myself though.  I get the point you are trying to make but I think you are generalising.  Anyway, I don't care too much, if you bait a few nuts, all the good big_smile

            1. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              lol I just want to have logical conversation with them.

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                B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Dude,You`re just a narcissus.Just making attention for yourself with this ignorant crap.

  5. aware profile image71
    awareposted 7 years ago

    neither are ridiculous. but as far as in a fight .i was there when jesus whipped mohs ass

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol

      1. aware profile image71
        awareposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        no for real me and jesus  pants-ed moh in high school in front of all the virgins  it was cold out and well you know. lol they laughed and laughed. moh got pissed and took a swing but jesus was quick and came back with a right jab

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Interesting. I'm glad you had a good time. It must have been rough that long ago....how are your legs holding up? lol

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Deleted

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          B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I love it.

        2. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I can see you're still filled with witless remarks as per usual. Always interjecting subjective garbage into a thread you've got no clue about.

          Sounds about right. And, yes the picture is me and no I don't have a ponytail, if you must know.

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            B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            you sort of favor Barney Fife.

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Interesting assessment. roll

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                B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                No disrespect meant.

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                  B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You asked me earlier about what I believed.Did you read it? What was your take?

                  1. Cagsil profile image60
                    Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Apparently, you are talking about a different thread, than this forum. I just reviewed this thread and I don't see anywhere- me asking you anything? - at all.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I'll take wit-less but how are you going to get over your sense-less comments that you normally blurt out. I have to disagree about my knowledge of the subject of this thread but, considering your usual cracks about religion and the religious you should question your own knowledge.( if you need help with those questions just ask:)) You're missing a great opportunity you have a ponytail face.

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              As usual, nothing of value. Enjoy.

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                sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                As usual a typical liberal "run and hide". I can't wait for you to cry foul and turn me in'

                1. Cagsil profile image60
                  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Turn you in for what?

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                    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Everytime I debate one of your kind I get a three day break. I have no idea why but it's happened three times. Secondly you told me the reason for the hubs was to read them and I did until a number of your kind disallowed my comments even going as far as to say they wished I didn't make any comments so I don't. When you and your cronies get comfortable with who you are and can discuss an issue intelligently I'll be glad to join in. As long as my comments are going to be viewed with contempt, the only thing I have to offer is sarcasm.

    2. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      mohammed ali?

  6. aware profile image71
    awareposted 7 years ago

    jesus is a scrappeer

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    It's a ridiculous question intending to incite hatred. Considering who asked it I know it was meant with evil intent.

    1. mobilephone guide profile image59
      mobilephone guideposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      it's called trolling

    2. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's the devil, right?

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No, just mean spirited.

    3. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So true.The soldier keeps fighting and blames god for wars.

  8. aware profile image71
    awareposted 7 years ago

    well cag i gota tell yah  my knees hurt 2000 years is a long time

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I know of a good doctor....lol lol

  9. aware profile image71
    awareposted 7 years ago

    lol now that pic is funny

  10. Bovine Currency profile image60
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    Well, that's me out.  See you all on another thread big_smile

    Have fun.

  11. Bovine Currency profile image60
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    is it just me or is there an echo?

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Just one of things, that needs scratching every once in awhile. This bee wants to hunt and wants to sting, so it's life can be over, before it began.

      lol lol lol

      Interesting little character..huh? lol lol

  12. sensu0s profile image64
    sensu0sposted 7 years ago

    Both 'Jesus - may peace be upon him' and 'Mohammad - may peace be upon him' are the prophets (messengers) of God. 'Jesus - may peace be upon him' came prior to 'Mohammad - may peace be upon him'. both prophets have been sent to guide the humanity towards the right track.

    'We should thank the one (god) who has created us', this is the general awareness which both the prophets has spread in the world. Most of their teachings and beliefs are now backed by the advanced science.

    Well, if we compare both the holy prophets, 'Jesus - may peace be upon him' and all the other messengers of god that came before him had come for that particular age, trend and people. 'Mohammad - may peace be upon him' is the final messenger of god. The holy book of Islam - 'Qoran' has a foolproof solution for every problem related to all the spheres of the modern global society and humanity. The coming of 'Mohammad - may peace be upon him' is also mentioned in the 'bible' as well as the 'Vedas'(the most ancient holy book for Hinduism).

  13. Will Apse profile image91
    Will Apseposted 7 years ago

    There is nothing more absurd than hatred. And nothing more dangerous than stirring it up.

    1. sensu0s profile image64
      sensu0sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      thats right smile

  14. Bovine Currency profile image60
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    I agree with the hatred comments, this question is not the way to go about things but I also find it fitting which hubbers have made the objections.  I will have my reality without the spoonful of hypocrisy, thanks.

  15. Siotosh profile image59
    Siotoshposted 7 years ago

    You are all playing games, none of you believe in God it's all about Adsense, impressions and clicks. Come on save us all the crap and declare you true Gods: € £ $ <<< The three in one.
    <snipped - no links please>

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    B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago

    What particular religion are you speaking of Q?

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      (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Religions are primarily geographic in nature, so you can take your pick based on the region you would refer.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        He asked you what "particular religion". Your answer is complete nonsense and thats why I say what I say.

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          (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          No, you say what you do because you wish to bait and antagonize those who don't agree with your fantasies.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            C'mon let me give you a hug. I love you anyway.

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              (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I suspect that to be a bold-faced lie.

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                sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                No, that I really mean, I know you're looking for the right path to follow and from one human to another, you'll find your place. I'll really will give you a hug and I love you for just being you.smile

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        B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You spoke of the mess religion has gotten us into.The only substantial conflicts currently appear to be in the Muslim community which is quite different from Christianity.Are you just heaping all religion in the same pot.I`m not defending one over the other but Christianity is the main religion of America. I don`t see any great conflicts concerning Christianity here or abroad.

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          (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          None whatsoever? None over the past 20 centuries? None today?

          Truly, a very good set of rose colored glasses your wearing.

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            B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Why is every war ever fought attributed to religion?

  17. EdwardO. profile image59
    EdwardO.posted 7 years ago

    I think Mo has the strength and speed but Jesus has the reach and can take a hell of a lot of punishment before going down.

  18. livelonger profile image88
    livelongerposted 7 years ago

    IMHO this is an idiotic topic that has turned into nothing more than trollbait (predictably).

  19. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Good to see you TM. How have you been?

  20. TMMason profile image74
    TMMasonposted 7 years ago

    Pretty good. Had some work to do. How you been marine?

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Good, thanks for asking. I'm still slaving for retirement. lol

  21. mistywild profile image60
    mistywildposted 7 years ago

    Same story, same concept. period.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Exclamation!

      1. mistywild profile image60
        mistywildposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol

  22. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Are you having a good weekend Misty?

    1. mistywild profile image60
      mistywildposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      sure am, although it just started lol

  23. Valerie F profile image60
    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    Marine, I don't need Sneako to stick up for me. And even if I did benefit from someone else jumping to my defense, don't flatter yourself into thinking that it must be because you've got such a stronger mind. Rather, I find your stubborn proclamation that religious people are generally weak-minded or "tricked" and your series of both emotionally inflammatory and intellectually insipid threads very tiring.

    Sometimes I simply have better things to do than defend myself on a forum.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Those were a lot of cool words. I humble myself to you.


      I think you should explain where my belief is so flawed and I would also like you to explain why you don't get as emotional when defending your faith resorting to name calling like some other believers.

      Oops, you did call me stubborn. Maybe you are upset.

 
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