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How old is earth according to your religion?

  1. weblog profile image62
    weblogposted 7 years ago

    Anyone can answer if interested...

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      Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      older then me. smile

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      (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I don't think any religion actually dates 'creation'

      Imsc, the biblical age of the earth (6000yr?) was worked out using over 200 bits of information from various interpretations of the bible.

      Recently, the "observable" universe was estimated at 13.5 billion years.

      Whether or not a god snapped his fingers to kick-start the universe is irrelevant, we should spend our time to better understand what we can see as opposed to what we can't. That way, we can avoid such huge discrepancies.

    3. Rod Marsden profile image80
      Rod Marsdenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I believe in science when it comes to the age of the earth.

    4. DavidSimmons1776 profile image44
      DavidSimmons1776posted 18 months ago in reply to this

      6,000 years

  2. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    It is an estimate only.

    About 6000 to 10000 years old.

    Yet, Humankind has been around about 2 Million years.

    Yet, Earth has been around about 4.5 Billion years.

    Yet, the Universe has been around about 5.5 Billion years.

    Those are the facts in reality.

    1. Richieb799 profile image63
      Richieb799posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Im not taking either side, but where in the Bible does it actually mention a date? It only 'refers' to historical events back to Babylon.
      If you consider the authors of the bible were only familiar to their world, they did'nt know about the history of cavemen etc. So they were unable to comment on these issues.

    2. cheaptrick profile image75
      cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This is a friendly correction Cags.The Universe has been around about 13 billion years.
      I think its interesting to note the prediction that the world will end on Dec 21 of 2012 according to the Mayan calender when the Mayans believed the earth was created around 1300 BC.the Long count ends its first cycle on Dec 21 of 2012 period,no prediction of what happens next,could be the beginning of the next cycle,simple as that.
      What do you think bro?

      1. Jerami profile image78
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I watched that program on TV ... I think that their calendar began around 3100 BC.which they believed was the beginning of their civilization.   And that calendar will have completed six long count cycles in 2012. or something like that.

        1. cheaptrick profile image75
          cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You are correct,thanks.

      2. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        We know exactly how old the universe is! 13.27 billion years if I recall correctly.

  3. Bovine Currency profile image60
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    17256 years and 4 months

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    B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago

    This is year 5769 supposedly.

    1. livelonger profile image88
      livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      5770. Did you miss Rosh Hashanah this year?

      Modern Judaism believes, however, scientific reckoning of about 4.5 billion years.

  5. tantrum profile image59
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    too short everybody !!
    more than a billion years !

    1. weblog profile image62
      weblogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      yeah, so I wanted to know what religions say!

      1. tantrum profile image59
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        NONE !!
        lol

        1. weblog profile image62
          weblogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          smile

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        B52 Bomberposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        According to the Jewish calender,which supposedly starts at Adams time.This year is 5769

      3. Jerami profile image78
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I understand my bible to say that in the beginning  God created the earth..... And then on a first day God said "Let there be light". ...  It does say how much time passes  until the second day ... Scripture does not say that these were consecutive days as we understand a day to represent.
        There is much lost in translation and even more is lost when interpretation is applied to what is actually written. 

          I think that the scientific understand of the age of the earth does not contradict what scripture actually says about this issue.  The earth is very very old. I believe that civilization has been wiped off of the earth on numerous occasions. Will that happen again? of course it will. When ?
        Nobody knows.  Nature is unpredictable.

        1. LOT2DO profile image58
          LOT2DOposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Total tricky.

          1. aguasilver profile image87
            aguasilverposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I agree with Jerami the world was created in six of Gods days... how long are those? - well you can ask Him when you see Him.

            Until then the Genesis account is fine by me, allowing for the fact that God was dictating it to someone 4,000 years ago and they probably had a little problem understanding exactly HOW God did it... then again they'd probably have a hard time if you tried to explain how we are all sitting on opposite sides of the world communicating instantly...

  6. Make  Money profile image72
    Make Moneyposted 7 years ago

    Do you think God gave Adam a calendar that started at January 1, 3769 BC? big_smile

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      According to the Hope Indians, the earth has been 'recreated' a few times.

      I suppose I could buy that the Earth has been annihilated a few times through out it's short existence of about 15 million years leaving behind remnants of earlier inhabitants and other evolved species that somehow survived destruction of previous Earths. 

      I suppose that if history presents more evidence to support that Earth was decimated 6000 years ago and a new time map was formulated then in the Biblical sense... the Garden could have existed and the Genesis account could be plausible.   

      We do find facts to support a flood about that time however not exactly world wide so maybe, just maybe because I haven't completely ruled it out yet.

      Maybe they should look for evidence that might suggest what state the continents were in. Because the theory of Pangaea suggest that the continents have moved apart and together at different times, it 'could' be possible that some sort of radical flood did happen by either tidal flood or some sort of water fall as it happened with the Grand Canyon.

      Anyways, I don't know and I am not taking either side but merely suggesting that I have not ruled out a 'new earth' beginning about 6000 years ago which would be our age.

      Not the age of humans but just our era or something I suppose. 

      And by new earth I don't mean that the planet itself was completely blown apart into a bunch of pieces and put back together again like Humpty Dumpty.

    2. weblog profile image62
      weblogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      He didn't want us to know the age of earth?

  7. Richieb799 profile image63
    Richieb799posted 7 years ago

    Also according to Genesis man was'nt scattered across the globe until the fall of babylon, this seems in line considering human civilization supposedly originated in Mesopotamia

  8. Pr0metheus profile image60
    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago

    About 4 billion years... then again I think religion is for the weak minded.

    God created spirituality.  Satan organized it and called it religion.

    1. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This would have to be one of (if not THE) best things I've seen you post.
      Seriously, (I'm not having a dig at you.) cool

  9. earnestshub profile image86
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    No gods created anything. We are stardust! Read all about it!
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/discovery

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes we are stardust put together, something has put us together from star dust.

      1. weblog profile image62
        weblogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        What was that 'something'..?

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          God knows wink definitely not man.

        2. Paraglider profile image89
          Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Gravity was a major player!

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            hmm so gravity is intelligent?

            1. Paraglider profile image89
              Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              No, but helpful in aggregating the disparate atoms together, making possible all manner of interaction.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                So it is an intelligent force? What has created such intelligence.?

                1. Paraglider profile image89
                  Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Not an intelligent force. Serendipitous, maybe.

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    ha that is being skeptical.Gravity does have a function.

              2. aka-dj profile image79
                aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I find this point intriguing. hmm
                How could there be gravity before aggregation? I would have thought gravity is a RESULT of having (large) mass(es) acting one on another? hmm

                1. Paraglider profile image89
                  Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  No. The gravitational attraction between any two masses (even single particles) is proportional to the product of the masses over the square of their separation. With single particles, the force is small, but as their mass is also small, the force is sufficient to accelerate them towards each other.

                  1. cally2 profile image61
                    cally2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    that kind of equals what i learnt in physics hundreds of years ago

                  2. earnestshub profile image86
                    earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Lovely Paraglider! You're explanations are very good! smile

                  3. aka-dj profile image79
                    aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    It's been a long time since my physics classes!big_smile

    2. cally2 profile image61
      cally2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What you believe is less important than why you believe it?
      I may have to go away and think about that. Thanks Earnest

      1. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks for looking. I doubt many will take the time to hear it all. smile

        1. aguasilver profile image87
          aguasilverposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I'd love to hear it, but my rig tells me that 'no hay ningĂșn dispositivo de audio' (no audio device) and being a techno peasant concerning rigs, I can't work out how to sort the problem...

          anybody got a clue?

          1. tantrum profile image59
            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Nice avatar ! Very sexy ! I might even fall in love with you ! big_smile

            1. aguasilver profile image87
              aguasilverposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I'm old enough....

              ....to have a nice avatar!

          2. earnestshub profile image86
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Install/allow/download and install winamp or windows media player I guess. Sorry I don't know what sort of "rig" you are driving.

  10. Will Apse profile image91
    Will Apseposted 7 years ago

    Things exist because they can exist. There is on other reason just lots and lots of description.

    1. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I've heard that it's been thought by many scholars that the universe exists to be observed, and/or discovered. We (humanity) are in a perfect place to do just that.

  11. kess profile image59
    kessposted 7 years ago

    When you ask the age of this earth you must understand what is it we are asking.

    Do you mean the time of   existance age of this age, meaning coming into light in it's present state?

    Then there is no reason to doubt the record of Moses.
    Which would give it a span of 6000 years give and take a few hundred.

    But  as to the age of the substance of things existing in this present age, is an impractical question.

    For all things in present existance, came out from an eternal preexistance.
    And things eternal cannot be limited by the measurement of time.

    For the earth preexisted in two forms, as pure light full of the knowledge of all goodness and order and invisible.
    And again in pure darkness, chaotic, totally ignorant of all good, dense hard and confine within itself and covered in water.

    From these two  this earth and present age came into existance. This can be clearly seen with the duality of ever the positive and negative in it.

    Just as things exist  in cycles within the age, just so this entire age will run through it's cycle and be no more, or more correctly  return into it's former state of pure light and pure darkness.

  12. cally2 profile image61
    cally2posted 7 years ago

    i had to hear it all. I don't think I understood everything at first glance but I will think about it. I love the idea of being stardust. I've been telling people for years that I'm a star. smile

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile a good idea that! I think I'm a star too, but I have 2x four year old critics here at the moment. One keeps telling me I'm redicolus! lol
      Bloody critics!!

      1. cally2 profile image61
        cally2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Wait until they are teenagers. When I need to research something I just ask the kids coz they know everything smile

        1. earnestshub profile image86
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What gets me is they really do know! I have a few teenagers laying around here somewhere! lol

          1. cally2 profile image61
            cally2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I have some lying around here

            1. earnestshub profile image86
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Do they tell you not to wear that shirt, it's an old mans look?
              This lot are fashion freaks too! lol

              1. cally2 profile image61
                cally2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                They tell me i have Nodad clothes. As in when I put them on they say No dad smile

                1. earnestshub profile image86
                  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  lol lol

  13. cally2 profile image61
    cally2posted 7 years ago

    But back to the thread. the earth is really really old

    1. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      HERE, HERE!
      Let's keep on topic! big_smile

  14. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 7 years ago

    And the point of knowing this (contentious) fact IS.....?

    In my book, (& I do not refer to the Bible here), TODAY is the most important day. Or, the NOW, moment.
    The past is G O N E ! Tomorrow is uncertain.

    1. cally2 profile image61
      cally2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think Jim Morrison added
      "I'm gonna get my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames"

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        "I tell you, I tell you, I tell you we must die." ")

        1. aka-dj profile image79
          aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          If you are god, you cannot die. big_smile

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Be reborn- Jesus and true there is no such thing as death at least not as most humans think.Just a passage to another dimension , may be the god dimension wink

            1. aka-dj profile image79
              aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I did that (reborn) 32yrs ago.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Tell me about it.Please don't tell me you changed your faith.

                1. aka-dj profile image79
                  aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You ask (for) too much.
                  In a way I did change my faith. Well, no, not faith. You can't really change your faith.You can change what you believe, though.
                  To answer the question briefly, I went from Roman Catholic, to "fundamentalist, evangelical, Bible believing, pentecostal, protestant Born Again Christian".
                  Not MY tags, but that's what I've been labelled with before. Just not in one sentence. big_smile

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Sorry but that's not what Jesus meant by being born again. smile

  15. cally2 profile image61
    cally2posted 7 years ago

    And maybe if we know how long it has been around it might give us some idea of how long it will last

    1. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That's like living next to an active volcano. Knowing how long it's been since the last eruption, may not be a good thing. big_smile

      1. cally2 profile image61
        cally2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Living on a volcanic island makes me want to know how long since the last eruption.

        1. aka-dj profile image79
          aka-djposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I was being a bit cheeky. big_smile
          All you extrapolate from that would be that every day that passes brings you closer to the next (inevitable) one.
          I believe we living in the last days, so I find some parallels in the example above. big_smile

  16. cally2 profile image61
    cally2posted 7 years ago

    Night guys, time for me to go to bed

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Good night .

    2. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Goodnight Cally, have a nice sleep. smile

  17. dyonder profile image78
    dyonderposted 7 years ago

    How old is earth according to your religion?

    Let's see; there's today, and there was yesterday. So, 2.

  18. Daniel Carter profile image91
    Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago

    Some religions claim the earth is about 7 days old. One day = 1000 years.

    There is obviously something wrong with this picture.

    1. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol

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    thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago
  20. alexandriaruthk profile image53
    alexandriaruthkposted 7 years ago

    I dont know zillion years maybe

  21. Colebabie profile image60
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    The earth? Eh, 4.5-4.6 billion years old... give or take a few million smile
    But I don't have a religion. hmm

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thats so sad.

      1. Colebabie profile image60
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Really? Because I think its amazing!

  22. goldenpath profile image80
    goldenpathposted 7 years ago

    Six thousand years since Adam and his posterity.  However, my faith accepts that the term "day" as used in the Creation can mean millenias.  The reckoning of time prior to the Fall of Adam and Eve was very different compared to after the Fall or the process of time as we now live it.  As far as the Earth is concerned it is not definitely known but as far as mankind since Adam around six thousand years.

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      (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That would be a result of the church having forced to change it's position in the face of scientific facts.

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        thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Nope, in the face of forceful speculation, they didn't want to have another Galileo situation on their hands, so they bought into it. There is tons of proof that the earth is young, it's usually push under the rug to further promote evolutionism.

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          (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Tons of proof the earth is young? Perhaps, when compared with the age of the universe.

          To promote evolutionism? hehe Good one.

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            thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            How does earth magnetic field affect the formation of carbon 14?

            If all the layers are millions of years old why are there no erosion marks?

            How do you explain away polystate tress piercing through multiple layers?

            http://www.jesuscreated.org/Scientific/Flood_files/image009.jpg

            http://www.fillthevoid.org/Creation/Hovind/Brainwashed_files/polystrate.jpg

            http://www.answersingenesis.org/article … earth-look

            http://hubpages.com/hub/Noahs-Ark-Missi … complished

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image73
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It's a conspiracy! And all the Christians I have known through my life who think that this is madness are simply dupes, and, despite their faith in Jesus, are bound for hell with the rest of us; tough break

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              (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Is that your evidence?

        2. dingdong profile image61
          dingdongposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What??

          1. AdsenseStrategies profile image73
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            As long as all you 4004ers realize that Bishop Ussher said it began at 9 am Greenwich Mean Time -- I guess he knew a thing or two about the natural priority of the nations too wink

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            thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this
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              (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              So, where's the evidence? I see none there.

              1. AdsenseStrategies profile image73
                AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                9 a.m. I say

      2. goldenpath profile image80
        goldenpathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Negative.  The Church has never held that the term "day" as described in scriptural texts on Creation as being that of a 24 hour period.  One must understand the writing language of the Old World in order to properly apply it to modern understanding.  Writing in the Old World extensively used imagery and terms to represent what it was they were writing about.  Revelation is packed with this kind of imagery and should not be taken literally as written with the characters but rather the imagery needs to be first understood in order to apply the truthfulness of the book. 

        This "compromise" as you put it may have taken place in some other faiths but has never faltered in mine.  Keeping this thought open to further light and knowledge gives way to combine discoveries of modern science as well as modern revelation.  Science and pure religion can work syonymous but one must remain open to new knowledge.  Ultimate truth is an ongoing endeavor.

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          (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Nor has it held the term "day" to mean any other time period, so it is assumed to mean a 24 hour period.

           

          Notice how your description of the bible as being vague and fictional precludes its claim to truthfulness.



          Actually, it has taken place.



          No, they can't work together as they are on opposite ends of the field.

          The scientific method is a failsafe way of understanding how things work, and without this method, we would still be living in cave.

          The religious method is to draw a conclusion; God did it. And, then go around trying to find evidence to support the conclusion, despite facts that put the conclusion in question. And, since nothing else gets done, the cave remains the residence.

          1. goldenpath profile image80
            goldenpathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Please - don't assume the doctrines of my faith.  Since it's inception in 1820 no official statement has been given regarding the specific span of time of a "day".  We have long held an eternal view of mankind and creation in general therefore no compromising has ever taken place in my particular faith.  The common process of thought wants to find fractures between science and religion, however, if you expand your understanding of both you will find how they actually work together.  I have not painted the Bible as vague but rather beautiful in the architecture of it's compilation.  The truth and secret to it's understanding lies in the imagery that the words portray.  It goes much deeper than our English language words. 

            Again, I speak only for the doctrines of my faith and no one elses.  My beliefs are sound in conjunction with scientific discovery if one studies the possibilities of each.

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image73
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Days began in 1820? Maybe in your country buddy. What did they have before?

              1. goldenpath profile image80
                goldenpathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                OK, let me clarify, buddy.  My faith's inception was in 1820 - not time itself.  Let's not go into a defensive mode.

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              (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I don't. Josephs so-called "visions" are well known as is your faith.



              Hence, it's irrelevant to make assertions as to how long a day was other than the assertion that it was the same length as it is today.

              Did you also know 1820 was the year the "HMS Beagle" was luanched and Orsted discovered the relationship between electricity and magnetism?

               

              Despite facts.



              No, they don't, at all. Of course, you're free to offer any event that has science and religion partnering in it's discoveries?

               

              Once again, you are demonstrating the bible to be vague and fictional.



              Hasn't happened. Probably never will. The scientific method cannot be used for faith based ideals, there isn't anything to observe or test. Nice try though.

  23. Valerie F profile image60
    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    4.5-ish billion years. And I'm Catholic.

  24. wyanjen profile image88
    wyanjenposted 7 years ago

    13.5 billion years. As seen through the telescopes.
    It's profound that mankind has figured out it out, seemingly impossible.
    (I'm atheist.)

    1. wyanjen profile image88
      wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I wandered off the subject as I read the forum.
      The universe is 13.5 billion, Earth itself is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old.

  25. TMMason profile image73
    TMMasonposted 7 years ago

    The age of the earth is 4.5 billion, our galaxy is 10 billion years, and the age of the universe is 11 +/- 1.6 billion years.

    I have heard it said also that the universe is more on the side of 14.5 billion.

    But? You know how it is when your guessing.

    I don't think we really know how old it is.

    There are questions in regards to red shift and it's actual value. Also, if the universe is expanding and contracting. Then how does red shift determine age accurately?

    I think we still have a ways to go on the dating thing.

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      (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Red Shift is just one factor in helping determine the expansion rate of the universe, and along with the black body temperature of the cosmic microwave background radiation, the age can be relatively calculated with good precision.

      Back to red shift for a moment. When light from distant objects travels through space for millions of years, it is affected by the expansion of the universe in that the frequency (energy) is "stretched out" along with the expansion. And, if the frequency of the light decreases, we observe it as moving towards the 'infra-red' region of the light spectrum. Calculations of this frequency compared with other objects can be turned into distance.

      1. TMMason profile image73
        TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good precision = fact?

        I understand red shift and am aware of the many differing factors, -(along with the many variables)-, added in to verify.

        But we still don't know for a fact.

        Do we?

        Science tends to forget, what we don't know about things is infinintly more, than what we know.

        So I'll stick to my belief that red shift among other things and fields in science, still have a way to go before we know for a fact, anything about our universe or our world.

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          (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Pretty much, yes, we do. Remember, we're talking about the "observable" universe. If there are other areas of the universe that have not been observed, we can therefore assume it to be larger and older. No light has reached us from those regions so they will remain unknown at this time.

          To state emphatically that the entire universe is 13.5 billion years old, as a fact, isn't good science.



          The scientific community never forgets that fact.



          You're free to do so. Many stick only to their beliefs.

  26. aware profile image72
    awareposted 7 years ago

    my idea of god  has no watch

  27. TMMason profile image73
    TMMasonposted 7 years ago

    When the facts change. I will re-evaluate what I believe to this point. Until then Science has a long way to go.

    To say we are talking about the observable universe, simply makes my point. If there is more to the universe than we do not know it's true age. And if not then we still do not as of yet know the true and accurate age of the universe.

    So your argument is moot.

    And if you read my post I, I did not state emphatically with any ceretainty of any specific age. I stated,... "The age of the earth is 4.5 billion, our galaxy is 10 billion years, and the age of the universe is 11 +/- 1.6 billion years.

    I have heard it said also that the universe is more on the side of 14.5 billion.

    But? You know how it is when your guessing.

    I don't think we really know how old it is."

    Doesn't sound to specific to me.

    Science tends to forget, what we don't know about things is infinintly more, than what we know.

    The scientific community never forgets that fact.

    Yeah right.

    1. profile image59
      (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Most likely, the facts won't change, that's why they're facts. Yes, science does have a long way to do, and we can do one of two things; admit to not knowing everything there is to know or invoking supernatural gods to explain it all away.



      Hence, the reason why we say the "observable" universe.



      So essentially, what you're claiming is that the facts will change because the observable universe is possibly not all of the universe. Well done.



      Correction, the "observable" universe.

      1. TMMason profile image73
        TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        So we don't know.

        "Correction, the "observable" universe." But we do believe there is alot more, so we don't know.

        You can say well this and well that, and we know this and know that. But in the end,.... like right now, today,... we don't know.

        unless your saying we know we don't know, but we know this much.

        Then I agree.

        We know some things, and of all them things, we can say some are fact,(And facts can change, a truth never changes.), Facts are a relative perception, and change with those perceptions.

        A, "Truth", is just that, a truth. It does not change.

        And, insulting my religious beliefs doesn't make you right. It just shows the arrogance I have expounded upon throughout my answers.

        But in the end!

        We "do not" know the age of the universe, and to say we do is another lie of science.

        Let me ask you.

        How do you conclude something? When you do not have all the facts with which to reach a valid and honest conclusion.

        You said it yourself, the "observable universe", that leaves the major possibillity that we do not see all the universe. Which I do not believe we do. And science in my opinion does not think we see it all,... So?...

        "So essentially, what you're claiming is that the facts will change because the observable universe is possibly not all of the universe. Well done."

        Thank you.

        I knew. If you read deep enough you would see it was simple. We cannot see it all, so saying we know for a fact is not truthful.

        We do not. We think, but we do not know.

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          (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          We don't "believe" there is a lot more, we can only assert there may be.



          But, we do know the 'observable' universe, which is relative to us at this time.



          That's exactly what I've been saying. We do agree.



          One man's truth is another mans lie.



          But, to say we know the age of the observable universe is not a lie.



          So, we agree, as per above. smile

  28. Raven King profile image60
    Raven Kingposted 7 years ago

    I think a more interesting question to ask is how old is humanity?

  29. marinealways24 profile image59
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    The earth is 30 years old according to my religion.

    1. weblog profile image62
      weblogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Logic?

  30. aware profile image72
    awareposted 7 years ago

    has anyone answered in dog years yet?

  31. oxymoron profile image61
    oxymoronposted 7 years ago

    Some people here want to believe earth is very young hmmm *sigh*

  32. profile image59
    (Q)posted 7 years ago
    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Fantastic video BC. smile

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        Star Witnessposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Where did you get that funny little flower thing, earnest?  Is it a cat?

        smile

        1. earnestshub profile image86
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          If you put your mouse over it and check it's properties you will see where it is from. It is supposed to be a blue daisy animal I think. smile

  33. Happyontheinside profile image75
    Happyontheinsideposted 7 years ago

    I believe that time is a creation of man and is therefore subjective. If you imagine it as a big box filled with water that is constantly liquid and God (or as I prefer - the creator) would be outside of time- watching us from a distance and revelling in his/her creation - that's if they even know we exist at all. I think we were created all at once - like the box of water was conjured into existence somehow...we just started, and one day we'll end. And the creator can see it all at once.

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Did you watch the video above? smile

  34. wesleyacarter profile image60
    wesleyacarterposted 7 years ago

    the world was created this morning. and i imagine it will be created again when i wake up tomorrow. if i wake up...

 
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