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Creation of Atheist's

  1. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Why do some Atheist's think creation is impossible? Aren't Atheist's created by their parents like everyone else? Are Atheist's mad at their parents for creating them?

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      C.J. Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      you know when you stir that, it makes a stink!

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol What do you mean? I am just making conversation.

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          C.J. Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Oh, I misunderstood!LOL Sorry.
          My thoughts. Theist and athiest alike arrive at their conclusions based on what they believe to be true. As with any belief there are allways external factors. In some cases the Theist himself is the greatest external factor that contributes to the atheist belief system. Athiest of these sort tend to be the angry ones. The angy athiest is frustrated by what he sees as a pious, hypocryte who preaches love and hate all in the same breath. This athiest is very sensitive to these buzz words like "Creation", "SIN", etc. These words will often solicit an angry/negative response from the atheist. The theist response is often one with an attitude of "holier than thow" which only keeps the argument going.....

          1. earnestshub profile image87
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            The problem is simple. Atheists are just people who do not see fairies in their garden! lol

            1. Arthur Fontes profile image91
              Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I have never seen an electron yet I believe in them.  Must be delusions.

              1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
                Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                atoms, molecules, germs, vikings, planets outside the milky way...

                1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
                  Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  thoughts, personalities, feelings...

              2. earnestshub profile image87
                earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You can prove an electron exists very easily with science.
                You cannot see or prove a god for a simple reason. God is a lie in a book full of hate and lies. smile
                Not a sign of proof.

                1. Arthur Fontes profile image91
                  Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  What motivates the electron to orbit a nucleus?  Why does it do it and what started the first electron to move?

                2. marinealways24 profile image60
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I agree that religious definitions of creation contradict how we find logical truth. I am talking bout creation outside of religions defintions.

                  1. earnestshub profile image87
                    earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Stardust. smile The latest understanding from science is very interesting. smile

                3. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
                  Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  1000 years ago they could not prove an electron existed, did they only come into existence once they were proven?

                  1. Arthur Fontes profile image91
                    Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Has anyone here actually seen an electron?

                  2. earnestshub profile image87
                    earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    What sort of logic is that? Apply that to other things and see how well it fits! smile

                    I breath air, no problem with needing to see it, because it does something! lol

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                (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You've never seen lightning or static?

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                  thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  roll Still waiting on those facts Q.

            2. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              lol Theres nothing wrong with seeing faires unless they tell you to blow people up along with yourself. There are a few others as well.

  2. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Do these questions make Atheist's angry?

    1. Sa Toya profile image85
      Sa Toyaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Lol I don't think It would...but some who would jump at answering this have been banned as you may know...Missing them I am!

      Everyone loves their parents right?

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol No, some hate their parents. How many got banned?

        1. Sa Toya profile image85
          Sa Toyaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          True there are those that aren't parental fans!

          4 people as far as I know

          Blood and Tantrum were 2 of them

          CW and Smooth As Silk (not sure on their beliefs)

          AS FAR AS I KNOW THE BANS WERE UNFAIR but rules were broken so...

          I'm assuming everyone else is worried of replying in case they get banned too

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I don't know what they got banned for. I will say I got banned for calling someone hypocrite one time. lol I think I got banned for calling someone ignorant b4 as well.

            1. Sa Toya profile image85
              Sa Toyaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Something along those lines.

    2. Misha profile image74
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Nah, they make them giggle smile

      1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
        Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        :giggle: big_smile

      2. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good because I don't like to feel the atheist wrath. It can be the devil. lol

  3. Arthur Fontes profile image91
    Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago

    Do atheists come from religious families or do they come from atheistic parents?

    1. Bill Manning profile image72
      Bill Manningposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Both

      1. Arthur Fontes profile image91
        Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That did seem like a silly question let me expand on it.  I was raised in a Catholic home I revolted against this at an early age.  I would not define myself as atheist but I do not follow any organized religion.  In my case it was the fact that I had too many questions that could not be answered by my mothers religion that caused me to stray from her faith.  I wonder if other people have had the same experiences with their parents religion?

    2. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm glad you said "came from" instead of "created by". They get angry when you mention "creation". You won't like it when their angry. lol

  4. Bill Manning profile image72
    Bill Manningposted 7 years ago

    I don't think everyone is afraid to answer. I just think it gets so old to keep bringing up the same question so many times in so many ways. Yes my parents had sex and had me, just like dogs, cats and rats do.

    That is not creation as your referring too, that's simple biological workings of an organic thing. Fruit flies are great at it! I love my mom, my dad a different story.

    1. Sa Toya profile image85
      Sa Toyaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      When I said afraid to answer I meant didn't want to get involved as theses topics always lead to verbal fights/arguments and bans have been issued recently.

      I agree it's all about the human race multiplying. I'm with you there on the mom, dad thing- I love my dad but it's getting tricky...to the point where he is now a hub.

    2. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol How is that not creation?!?! Please explain this? If you explain, I won't have to keep asking will I? Why can't a child come from only 1 parent? Why does it take 2 parents to create a child?

      1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
        Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Well, uh because humans are a species in which 1 parent has the egg, the other has sperm... wink

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Um, why can't we just evolve from an egg? Why do we need sperm? lol

          1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
            Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Because without the need of a males sperm, men would be of no practical use to women. They put up with us now, but take that away and they wouldn't.
            wink  smile big_smile roll big_smile smile wink

            1. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Or they would trade us for vibrators. lol Am I allowed to say "vibrators"?

              1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
                Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                That's my point, were only kept around as long as they need something from us...

                1. marinealways24 profile image60
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I think it is a conspiracy. lol

                  1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
                    Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile

      2. Bill Manning profile image72
        Bill Manningposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        It's all in how your wording it. If you want to say that two living organisms that have sex and produce an offspring is actually creating one, then fine, it was creation.

        It's also nothing more than messy sperms penetrating an egg. Worms have both a male and female parts. Many microorganisms split themselves and form new ones, never having sex.

        If you want to say that was creation then fine, go right ahead. But we both know your talking about some magical being when you say creation, and that is just not the case.

        However if you agree that we can produce offspring and it has nothing to do with a god or higher being and want to call it creation then by all means do so. smile

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What created the microorganism that split themselves to create new micoorganism's? Are you assuming I am talking about a magical being? I don't think my parents are magical. I just proved you wrong on your assumption, haha. How can we create creation if we weren't created? Make sense to you?

          1. Bill Manning profile image72
            Bill Manningposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            See, this is why talks like this never end, because it just goes on and on with both seeing it their own way.

            By what you just said then, how can their be a god unless something created him/her? and if someone/thing did create god, who/what created that/it?? LOL.

            We all just come to our own basic conclusions of what life is about. Nobody knows the whole key to life and the world as we know it. So we each judge and decide for ourselves and hope it's the right one.

            I just base mine on what I see around me, what I studied and I'm happy with what I have arrived at. I'm glad your happy with what you have decided to believe. I'm not going to change you, and your not going to me.

            1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
              Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Nicely Stated.

            2. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              lol You are right, it is ongoing. I think it can drive a person insane trying to find the root of existence.

              Which takes more faith to believe? Faith in creation, faith in evolution, both, or neither?

              If you are already happy in the conclusions of your belief, are you not limiting your mind to possible new and more open belief?

  5. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    It is not a real question though is it?
    It assumes a lie. smile
    The elephant in the corner is that not one iota of proof exists for this fanciful belief in a hate filled psychotic entity and that is no surprise.
    A book written by madmen who threaten death to get people to "believe" is not the same is it?
    This is disingenuous to say the least! lol

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol Why do you think a I have to believe the bible to believe in creation? I think creation is evident all around. Then again, everything could be an illusion.

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      thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That's not really an answer is it lol How is it false assumption either we are designed or just a random accident, there is no third option. Thou shall not lie another objective moral standard. Thanks again. You know God, you just hate God. Who in their right mind call a non-existent being  "hate filled psychotic entity" (another dawkins annotation very original wink )  Only someone real can hold such a title.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I don't think comments like these open peoples mind to the possibility of creation.

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    C.J. Wrightposted 7 years ago

    See what I mean....angry....this is not good.

  7. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    Creation is all around us. Just not created by a psychotic invisible entity. smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If creation is all around us, wouldn't it be logical to believe our origins of existence were created?

    2. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
      Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I have to side a little bit with Earnest here. While I don't believe God is what the 'cavemen' in the Bibles say God is, and as Earnest has stated the 'God' descriptions in the Bibles are very much of an angry, jealous, spiteful entity.
      The goal of getting people to do as they were told is very evident in the wording and descriptions of God in the bibles. The simple fact that the central concept of the Bibles is that of 'what must a person do to get to heaven? Obey .'

      Where Earnest and I differ is in that while I know that these descriptions are not true descriptions of the "pink unicorn" that I call God, Earnest has decided that if that is what God is then I(Earnest) don't believe that 'God' exists at all. I(Mikel) instead choose to believe that God exists, and that the descriptions of a hateful psychotic entity are just incorrect.

      The Bibles, written by cavemen, are not correct about everything. God isn't a take it or leave it ideal/entity.

      1. aguasilver profile image87
        aguasilverposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Whats wrong with obeying God?

        1. earnestshub profile image87
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Should we obey this god?
            "I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD.  "I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die.  I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD.  "I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship.  I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear.  For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars.  They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too.  So now I will destroy them!  And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do.  They no longer ask for the LORD's guidance or seek my blessings."   (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
          Nasty little psychopath this god!
            "I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD.  "I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die.  I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD.  "I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship.  I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear.  For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars.  They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too.  So now I will destroy them!  And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do.  They no longer ask for the LORD's guidance or seek my blessings."   (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)

        2. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
          Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Obeying God, nothing....


          Knowing whether it is an order from God, or someones mistaken belief that it came from God...a whole 'nother story.

          I have Faith in God, less faith in humanity...So if it involves another human, it must be taken as possibly flawed.

          1. Sa Toya profile image85
            Sa Toyaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Here, Here smile

            1. earnestshub profile image87
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It was men not god that wrote the religious tomes! lol

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I wouldn't call them men. I would call them politicians.

                1. earnestshub profile image87
                  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Yes they had a political agenda. smile

                  1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
                    Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Agreed.

  8. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    My own words, not taken from Dawkins. I do not hate god, how in hell can one hate a myth. It is those who believe this crud that amazes me, and as I said I don't do hate, that is a biblical speciality. lol

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      thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      keep shaking your fist at the sky, earnest wink

      1. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I will leave the fist shaking to those who believe. lol

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    C.J. Wrightposted 7 years ago

    see what I mean....holier than thou....not good

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No being holier than thou is spouting religious crud that threatens others, a religious speciality also. smile

      1. Sa Toya profile image85
        Sa Toyaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That may be an aspect of religion but there are many people who believe in God that do not deem themselves holier than thou or are on a mission to threaten.

 
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