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what do you think of the bible?

  1. Bredavies profile image68
    Bredaviesposted 7 years ago

    I'll be honest. I think most of it is bs. I believe in something up there. But a book of stories dating back that far? And the fact that it makes it like every religion is a facade compared to that of Christianity

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      SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So you think that because it is old, it has to be false?



      It goes against what you believe so it must be false?

      1. IntimatEvolution profile image79
        IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        SirDent, I am quite surprised at how many people feel that history dating back over a thousand or so years ago- really should not matter.  That floors me everytime I come across people like that.  It's nothing personal to the original poster, it is the way millions think to today.  They forget about what gives the backbone, or foundational footing to an event, situation, religion, region, political bearing, and so on and so forth.

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          (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Many good ancient ideals are used today as are ancient ideals of myths and superstitions, being old has nothing to do with it. It is the ideals themselves in question.



          Kinda like evolution?

    2. Bredavies profile image68
      Bredaviesposted 7 years ago

      nope actually that isn't why. Cause I do believe that there is a "god" I just refuse to believe that humans were the first to live on this earth.

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      sarah dawkinsposted 7 years ago

      Honestly, I think it is a book of fantasy as I believe that religion was invented to control the masses.

      1. Bredavies profile image68
        Bredaviesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        yes see that s what i mean. Anything that can pull people apart and start ridiculous arguments isn't ok with me. I think people should believe what they want to...not what a book tells them too.

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        SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You said something similar to this before on another thread. I asked you a question afterward.

        Who invented this god you speak of and when? Just show me the proof of what you speak. Anyone can answer, it doesn' have to be you.

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      Over The Hillposted 7 years ago

      People believe the writings of Plato,Pericles,Aristotle and Socrates.Why not the bible?

      1. IntimatEvolution profile image79
        IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That's a very good point.

      2. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Because their books are not psychotic? smile

      3. Jerami profile image74
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago

        The only thing wrong with the bible is that culture has taught that it is acceptable for 100 diffrent people can have 100 diffrent truths as to what it says.

        1. IntimatEvolution profile image79
          IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Isn't that the same of every religion?  It is all about interpretation don't you think?

          1. Jerami profile image74
            Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

               Yes it is but it isn't supposed to be.

            1. IntimatEvolution profile image79
              IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Why do you feel that way, if you don't mind me asking?

      4. Jerami profile image74
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago

        I guess everyone would say that this is only my interpretation, but I think that where in scripture our undersatnding begins makes all of the diffrence.

        1. IntimatEvolution profile image79
          IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes indeed it does...  Take the birth of Christianity.  Christ said for his followers to follow the way and practice their faith under James the Just, they were called the Ebionites and then you have Paul on the otherside, and that is called the Pauline doctrine.  From the very beginning of Christianity, it was torn apart.  However, the one interpretation that did however remain a constant in the whole ordeal was Christ's message to love and to be Christ-like.  Nobody needs scripture if you just follow that simple method.  Another aspect is that being Christ-like, is very similar to the actual teachings of the Koran, Torah, and the Buddhist spiritual journey.  Many religions actually echo the same sentiment. 

          However, without personal interpretations where would any of us stand?

      5. Jerami profile image74
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago

        Everyone does have diffrent lessons to learn with each passage concerning how to interrelate with diffrent situations that we experience in life.Yes we can have diffrent interpretations as to how they relate to ourselves.
          But when the Prophesy are concerned, we are not supposed to interpret them to satisfy ourselves. And to properly understand the prophesy gives a fuller understanding of the rest of scripture.
          a scavenger hunt may be a good example.  You have to begin at the right place in order to follow the directions to reach your goal. We do not build a house at the top and make everything fit as we work down toward the foundation. It will never lay properly onto the foundation that is established before we began building.

      6. IntimatEvolution profile image79
        IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago

        If Christ did not want us to freely interrupt scripture, then I do not feel he would have delivered his messages through parables.  Good chatting with you on this topic.

        1. Jerami profile image74
          Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

             Many of his parables were spoken and then interpreted to the disciples. He mentioned that they were spoken in parables that the unwise among those listeners would not have understood.
             He gave us an overall game plan as to how we were supposed to behave. I don't think that he wanted us to hear his words and follow them as we would the letter of the Law. He directed us to live by the spirit of the word.

          1. IntimatEvolution profile image79
            IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            "....then interpreted to the disciples." 

            I believe, at one point in time his disciples became so frustrated with his parables, since usually they came without the answer, that they question Christ on the subject matter.  He answered them with another parable....

            I think we are at an agreement that the bible is interpreted at the very basic level.  Your position that it should not be, does not entirely stand in accordance to this last statement.   Your statement, "He directed us to live by the spirit of the word.", speaks volumes that indeed the spirit of the word is interplayed with the minds of man. 

            You know- Christ never gave us a set of tablets to follow.  He never wrote any of his personal answers down to paper or stone.  He never left us with a set of laws to live by.  No where did he ever do this.  To be Christ-like is an individual journey.  Some need the bible as an inspiration, some need the bible to cling too, some need it as a dust magnet.  If we, were to follow some sort of made up letter to the law, then when he said to follow James, all gentiles should have converted to Judaism and became an Ebionite and follower of Abraham and Moses law.
            However, there was Paul, a Roman Pagan turned Christian, in the background who opened the doors to Christ's message in his own way. The bases of Christianity comes from this birth.

            1. Jerami profile image74
              Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I think that we are in basic agreement.  In the,how we should follow Christ aspect, scripture would have to be a little adjustable on some issues because it is a "one size fits all" sort of thing but not really. I do not find the proper words that I intend.

                 Sometimes I get a bit carried away concerning the prophesy side of scripture. This may not be important to some but for me they seem to be of most importance. Many things are revealed to us when we understand them. And to do so; the elimination of private interpretation is essential.
                   In reality we do not have to understand them in order to
                 be redeemed. But there are so much misinterpretation of these end time prophesy that there would have to be many Christians being deceived and misled into believing that there is plenty of time until the end, because the Temple has to be built first (False)  and there has to be a one world government set up first (false) That they are going to put a mark on our forehead  or on our hand (false), etc.
                 This is my belief anyway.
                And I have enjoyed this conversation with you as well

      7. waynet profile image50
        waynetposted 7 years ago

        It is one of the best bunch of made up stories ever told and it has served it's purpose of inspiring art and stories since it's authoring, I regularly read it to be inspired to write stories of my own and create some art and demon art based on the central Jesus character....so the bible is....Brilliant!!

        1. IntimatEvolution profile image79
          IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          That is definitely one great way to look at the bible. I feel that way about the Koran. Beautiful poetry.

      8. getitrite profile image79
        getitriteposted 7 years ago

        The bible is mostly nonsense.  Definitely not devine-only through a giant leap of faith.

      9. aware profile image71
        awareposted 7 years ago

        its fiction folks. me.. i cant get angry at fiction.im no bible thumper  .or basher. if the bible is your thing.then your thing is cool by me . even tho its not my thing. lets let  our thingys be safe from attack from others with other things in mind.
        thats kinda like poetry.lol

        1. ladyjane1 profile image84
          ladyjane1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I definitely hear you. I have never known a topic that has generated so much anger amongst "christians". I have a sister that is a bible thumper and I am definitely not but we get into a discussion and she gets so angry with my comments and I just laugh and it makes her even more angry. But kidding aside, religion, the bible, christianity has been responsible for more deaths in the world than any war ever has. I don't get it. Although I do believe in a higher power I do call him God but I'm not sure about the bible.

      10. DogSiDaed profile image61
        DogSiDaedposted 7 years ago

        I thought it was quite a good story. I hope the sequel is better... They've been working on it a while so it better be!

      11. aware profile image71
        awareposted 7 years ago

        i dont read books older than me as a rule

      12. Lady Summerset profile image80
        Lady Summersetposted 7 years ago

        It's a haven in the midst of strong storms.  I'm thankful for the wisdom, love, and peace that I find when the walls of life began to implode.

      13. efeguy profile image60
        efeguyposted 7 years ago

        great book.

        the best book on earth.

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I think you're wrong there. Mohit's book of poems is ranked over it, and over the Qu'ran as well. Or So he says.

      14. aguasilver profile image87
        aguasilverposted 7 years ago

        I think it's the manufacturers handbook on life, it has all the information you need (though  not all you may want) it will protect you in times of danger, it will feed you if you let it 'consume' you first and it will lead anybody who seeks to find the answer.

        It frightens the life out of the enemy, and I have seen large men leap backwards when the bible has even touched them or been pointed at them.

        It provides all the answers needed to answer Christ's critics.

        It's also a great read and has provided all the major story lines for literature.

        Trolls and Sock puppets need not bother replying to this post.

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          SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Good post. There are many things written that are hard to do and understand. Many things required of believers that are notg easily done. To live a Holy life is hard to do but without it, you will not see God.

          1. kess profile image61
            kessposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            This tells me you serve the God of the bible.
            The one true God is not known by words in a book.

            Even the bible says so but you still don't understand.

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          (Q)posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Like a cattle prod?

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        poetlorraineposted 7 years ago

        I love it, it has a positive message, not always easy to understand, but if you take the time to study it, you will benefit i feel i do.....

      16. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago

        How else does one arrive at a belief in a sky fairy then? lol

        1. wesleyacarter profile image59
          wesleyacarterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          still ranting about this "sky fairy".

          should i get involved today. i think, earnest, i'll just make like a Beatles album and let it be. haha

          good to see you in action buddy

          1. earnestshub profile image86
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            All a matter of interpretation Wesley, I don't rant. smile

      17. Alessia Amnesia profile image56
        Alessia Amnesiaposted 7 years ago

        I think the Bible is one big metaphor.

        1. Jerami profile image74
          Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

             A person may take the teachings metaphorically if they wish as long as they follow their understandings of them.
             However I do not believe the prophesy can be seen in that respect. And they have time lines that they are all going to be fulfilled within.

        2. mohitmisra profile image54
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes in order to define god.

      18. jcmmanuel profile image61
        jcmmanuelposted 7 years ago

        The bible is a great book if you understand its merits as a historical account in the first place. E.g. people who read it as a textbook to use today will - in the case of non-christians - often point out the stuff about slaves and so on (and justified so, at least in the face of bible literalists who treat the bible as a cookery book rather than the excellent Jewish/Christian monotheistic 'history of God'). Hence, against the typical 'bible thumpers' you have the average 'atheism thumpers' like Christopher Hitchens etc. who never even want to make sense of the book. But a historian reads that differently and will notice that this Jewish constitution had - in the given example - rules in place for the protection of slaves long before the Greeks. We need to see all progress against the given time frame, its social & cultural context etc. From this perspective, the Bible makes perfect sense to me also rationally. Criticizing the text is of course okay, but not, for instance, merely stigmatizing it.

       
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