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What is the holy grail?

  1. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    Hey Hubberville,

    I know this sounds like a really foolish question to ask, but I want different people's take on it.

    What is the Holy Grail?

    Now- those who know about religion "holy" would be divine. And, "Grail" is a metaphor? Used throughout religion.

    One rumor is that it is simply a Cup, for which, Jesus drank at the Last Supper.

    Other rumors have floated around about it, but I'm not going to bring them. But, they do have one common element between, all of them, and has to do with Jesus and Immortality.

    In my own studies, I've come to understand the "Grail" is a metaphor, out of context. The Grail is that which can produce or give life.

    With that understanding, then the Grail is a Woman vagina.

    Man can eat it.
    Man can drink from it.
    Man can become immortal by it, because it keeps him and him memory alive, via his family.

    The Eternal Life of the Grail.

    But, please do let me know your thoughts. You have your opinions, and I respect.

    Thank you for your time.

    Cagsil

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
      Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this
      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Did I ask for links? I think not. But, thank you for your input. smile

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
          Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          you asked for opinions I think that link describes my opinion nicely...if you dont want the answer dont ask the question.

    2. RainySunshine profile image60
      RainySunshineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      -Looks down- (cringes) I can't get to my Holy Grail! Unfair! smile

    3. Christopher Floyd profile image60
      Christopher Floydposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Spiritually, I think the Grail is irrelevant.  I heard it was the cup Christ drank vinegar from on the cross.  Also heard it later caught his blood.  Whatever it was - if it was - I don't think it would have been preserved.  Copied and sold by the church as a holy relic in the middle ages, sure. But otherwise not of consequence.

  2. Milla Mahno profile image60
    Milla Mahnoposted 7 years ago

    LOLOLO This one I like much better smile

    It does make me holier, right? wink

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It only makes sense. smile But, I'm glad you had a good laugh. big_smile lol

      1. Milla Mahno profile image60
        Milla Mahnoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I remember Dan Brown had his own version of it in Da Vinci Code, but I frankly don't remember what was it, exactly... smile

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image88
          Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          The da vinci code said the grail was the vagina, the source of human birth. V and the male half was the penis symbolized as a chevron (an upside down V).

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you, since I've not seen the movie. smile lol

          2. Milla Mahno profile image60
            Milla Mahnoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Cool, so we have at least two great minds agreeing on the idea. Gives it more merit, right? wink

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Who are you agreeing with? lol lol

        2. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I couldn't sit thru the movie. I didn't care for it, because it deals too much in secret societies. And not enough on the lies of the church. smile

          1. Milla Mahno profile image60
            Milla Mahnoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Actually I even did not try to see the movie. I read the book lol

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I'm not sure I want to put the effort into reading the book. lol lol

              1. Milla Mahno profile image60
                Milla Mahnoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Oh, it's no doubt readable and quite entertaining.

                And I am not agreeing with anybody, I am neutral on the issue, albeit your version is flattering to any girl. I meant you and Dan Brown agree on this smile

                1. Cagsil profile image60
                  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Oh okay. smile

  3. The Rope profile image60
    The Ropeposted 7 years ago

    big_smilebig_smile:  Sorry I refuse to be baited on this one but I can't wait to see where it leads!

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I bait no one.

      Just want opinions on what people think their religious belief leads them to? smile

      And, I'm sorry The Rope, that you feel like I would purposely bait you. sad

      1. The Rope profile image60
        The Ropeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Please Cagsil accept my apologies.  I am very sorry.  It was my feeble attempt at humor since I couldn't personally respond to the holy grail and a metaphor with a woman's vagina.  Still can't wait to see this topic unfold.

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          No problem. Believe it or not, this topic really cannot go anywhere. I've simply stated my case of understanding I would apply to it, if I had thought of the grail? And, it's meaning.

          Others can say whatever they choose and I'm sure they will. smile

  4. thevoice profile image59
    thevoiceposted 7 years ago

    You are the living holy grail birth right of God Jesus the holy spirit check human holy scriptures of all religions. God is human holy DNA holy blood of Jesus lives in us all. You truly are God human grail birth right as are all human life of God

  5. profile image0
    A Texanposted 7 years ago

    "With that understanding, then the Grail is a Woman vagina."

    As opposed to the man's vagina?

    1. Misha profile image76
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, men vaginas are unholy lol

      Welcome back Tex smile

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        A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Mangina is not good. Thanks Misha, I wonder how long it takes the snitches to start snitching?

        1. Misha profile image76
          Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Time will tell smile

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            A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yep!

      2. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol lol

        1. wyanjen profile image87
          wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          un
          hole
          y
          lol

          RE the DaVinci code:
          For the readers, not the movie watchers:

          There is a code in the book description, on the inside front and back of the jacket. I don't know if the paperback printing has it, I only have the hard cover.
          I thought I had found a typo when I was reading it. Then, I found another typo. Then, I realized it was a hidden message.
          My mom was visiting, so she and I sat down and figured it out.  smile

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol lol And, what did you come up with? smile

            1. wyanjen profile image87
              wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Should I say? Or should I let it be a mystery? smile

              1. Cagsil profile image60
                Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Well, ultimately it is up to you, so I won't say anything more about it. But, subject change- how are you doing today? smile

                1. wyanjen profile image87
                  wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  hmm. Well, what are the odds that somebody actually has a hard cover copy of the book, with the dust jacket still on it, and decides to find the answer?
                  Pretty slim I think..

                  <<spoiler alert>>
                  The code on the dust jacket spells out: "Is there no help for the widow's son?"
                  I'll let you google the meaning. (hint: mix mormons with freemasons)

                  so anyway, i'm good. just wrapping a few things up, then gonna crawl into bed.
                  You?

                  1. Cagsil profile image60
                    Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Not much. Interesting little tid-bit you have there. I published a new hub today, it was a question asked by another Hubber. Ohma asked me to give insight on what I thought of an article. I included the link in the Hub, so people can learn about it. I wasn't exactly sure to take it, but did what I could. smile

    2. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you for pointing out the obvious. You seem to be pretty good at that. roll

      1. profile image0
        A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You're very welcome, anything else I can do for you?

  6. profile image0
    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    .....................WOW!...................Really!.............Thats a huge jump from a cup to a hoohoo!

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So, you take the "grail" metaphor as being a cup? smile

  7. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    For a truthful understanding of the holy grail, you would need to refer to the appropriate Simpsons episode to answer this as with all these deep and meaning-full questions! lol

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      HaHa? Simpson?DOH!

      What's up Earnest? How are you? smile

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hiya Cagsil! Sorting out my son's insurance claim. Someone ran in to his parked car! smile I am good thank you! Yourself? smile

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Not bad. Sorry to hear about the car. My sister had her car totaled by her insurance company. She bought a new car. lol

  8. melpor profile image90
    melporposted 7 years ago

    The Holy Grail is the cup Jesus supposedly had drank from during the Last Supper.

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      There is nothing else to it. It's just a cup which he drank from? smile

  9. Niteriter profile image79
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Sorry about the car, earnest. I was having trouble controlling my hovercraft.

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeh I know.... ya get that. smile

  10. Rod Marsden profile image78
    Rod Marsdenposted 7 years ago

    There's Dan Brown's notion of what the holy grail might be and I suppose it is as valid in its own way as any other.

    It can be noted, however, that in the British Isles the quest for the holy grail or something similar to it predates Christianity. There are Celtic elements to some of the earliest tales dealing with the holy grail.

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you Rod. smile

      1. iantoPF profile image87
        iantoPFposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'd like to add my bit to this. I've even considered doing a hub on it.
        Joseph of Arimathea is said to have brought the cup that jesus drank out of as well as the spear that pierced his side, to the British Isles.
        According to the later tales of Arthur, his knights set out on a quest to find it. That's the traditional idea that developed  when legends of Celtic warlords were transformed into tales of christian knights. Much older Welsh legends tell of Arthur and his companions entering Annwn, the world of the dead, they brave seven castles in their quest to bring into the mortal world the Cauldron of Rebirth.
        To the celtic mind the grail is one of the three sacred Cauldrons that pre-date christianity.

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you for sharing. smile

  11. tantrum profile image58
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    During the time of Jesus, sex was not a taboo. Jesus, being a healthy male , and I think not gay, had 'known' a lot of women at the time.
    Some historians suppose he had sex with Mary Magdalen and had children with her.
    When Jesus was arrested and condemned to death, Mary Magdalen, went away with her children.
    At some stage, before the middle ages, the descendants arrived to France and stayed there.
    The grail, comes from the French  phrase 'sang royal', which means royal blood.
    It's supposed that the Grail is only a code name for the descendants of Jesus.
    Just a theory, the Templars hold as a secret for many years.

    Of all the theories, this is the one I like best.
    Not that I believe in it. But it appeals to me.

    1. Misha profile image76
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think you oversimplify. Just re-read the OT - or it's original, Torah. smile

      1. tantrum profile image58
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        One thing is what the scriptures say and other is what people really do.
        Or are you going to tell me that all tha Christians nowadays arrive virgin to marriage ?
        Or that everybody follow the 10 commandements ?

        1. Misha profile image76
          Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Isn't it a taboo to break 10 commandments? Wasn't it a taboo to not be a virgin when marry just say a 100 years ago? And still pretty much in effect for many religious families?

          I am not saying that nobody had sex back in those days, I am saying that based on the literature evidence we have, it likely was even more of a taboo then nowadays - among Jews. smile

          1. tantrum profile image58
            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            . Jesus was a revolutionary. He was trying to change things. I don't remember Jesus saying sex was wrong.
            So I don't believe he followed what the Sanedrin told people to do.

            1. tantrum profile image58
              tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              and anyway we're talking about theories here.
              And this is my theory.
              You don't like it, it's OK with me
              I'm getting bored with this kind of foolish arguments.
              It's only a theory.

    2. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you. I remember reading about what you've posted. It was a nice refresher course. lol I'm glad something appeals to you. lol lol

  12. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    a monty python movie

  13. Misha profile image76
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    LOL Sorry I intervened. smile

    *crawling back to his burrow in horror*

  14. tantrum profile image58
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    It appeals me more than your statement  saying you're glad that something appeals to me.
    Thank you !

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Why can't I be glad that something appeals to you? It only means that you gave what I said, more just a passing thought to be dismissed. You mused yourself in the thought. That is what I am glad for. It wasn't meant to be insult. smile

      1. tantrum profile image58
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I didn't take as an insult. How can that comment be an insult ?

        I found it funny! It sounded as you think  I'm not capable of finding appeal in anything. lol

        It looks like everybody's so touchy about insults lately. It must be the lack of freedom of speech.
        Nobody's genuine anymore.
        and I'm getting bored.

 
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