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The absolute knowledge of the absolute God is impossible

  1. kess profile image60
    kessposted 7 years ago

    The day represent God and eternal nature. The sun is
    The christ as the center.

    The night is the darkness and its eternal nature. The moon as the antichrist and ruler.

    The Stars as the children of God. They are ruled over by the moon as he reflect the light of the sun.

    His light is not life giving but brings death.
    His light is governed mainly by the earth, the prince of darkness and the sun the Christ.
       
    The dusk represent the begining of this creation.
    Light entering darkness of the water and earth.
    Them the sons of God appear in the sky as the stars.

    They are ruled over by the anti light from the moon. The light of the stars are self originating self sustaining, thus making them superior to that light of the moon.

    The dawn represent the end of this age. Where the light of the sun fills all and the darkness is driven away.
    They all have merged with the light becoming one

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Scripture please.
    And with context.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You have never heard "The kingdom of god is within" Jesus
      or "I tell ye you are all gods" Jesus

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        SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        "I tell you you are judges." Jesus Christ.

        And the saints will judge the earth.

        Except a man be born again He shall in no wise see the kingdom of God.

        And there is no other name given under heaven whereby men shall be saved.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Yes.
    Jesus meant He IS the Kingdom.
    And the "little gods" theory is just that----a theory thought up by people with god delusions or delusions of grandeur.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      He meant this for all humans, meditate and you will see this truth that ancient msytics have been talking about much earlier than Jesus.

      This is the message of all enlightened ones.The crux of Christianity as well.

      If god is ominpresent then he is in all things.

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        SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        According to this, I flushed God down the commode earlier today.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes you did , all is god.

          Psalm 82:6 and says, "Hasn't it been written in your Law, 'I said, you are gods'? Jesus

          So you worship a god who is not omnipresent ? That cannot be god.

          What is the meaning of god is omnipresent,omnipotent and omniscient. ?

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            SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Omnipresent doesn't mean in everyhting. It means He is everywhere.

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Present everywhere means not in it ?

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                SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Now you got it.

                1. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Hello sir Dent  you dont get it.If god is present everywhere means he is in everything as well simple.

                  How can he be in everywhere and not in everything, totally contradictory.


                  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/omnipresent
                  esp of a deity) present in all places at the same time
                  omnipresence

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                    SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I am in the earth, but not the earth. I am in my house at this time but I am not the house nor is the house me. The contradiction is in your mind.

                    I ate a fudge brownie earlier. Does that make me a cannibal?

                  2. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
                    Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I think sirdent is correct on this one....

        2. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
          Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          No, but you flush something that is a part of God...

      2. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Psalm 82:6 and says, "Hasn't it been written in your Law, 'I said, you are gods'? Jesus

        He said this when he was being ridiculed.tried to get some sense into those who were ridiculing him.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Interesting, plenty of room to discuss, though.
    Maybe I'll try to catch ya another time.
    Too sleepy now...

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    SirDentposted 7 years ago

    I have time for one more post.

    If I held an ant in one hand and convered it with the other hand, would I then be in the ant? Though I would be omnipresent to the ant, I would not be in the ant.

    Good night everyone.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      everywhere means everything

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        SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

        eve⋅ry⋅where  /ˈɛvriˌʰwɛər, -ˌwɛər/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [ev-ree-hwair, -wair]  Show IPA
        Use EVERYWHERE in a Sentence
        See images of EVERYWHERE
        Search EVERYWHERE on the Web
        –adverb in every place or part; in all places.

        eve⋅ry⋅thing  /ˈɛvriˌθɪŋ/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [ev-ree-thing]  Show IPA
        Use EVERYthing in a Sentence
        See images of EVERYthing
        Search EVERYthing on the Web
        –pronoun 1. every thing or particular of an aggregate or total; all.
        2. something extremely important: This news means everything to us. 

        –noun 3. something that is extremely or most important: Money is his everything. 

        Can you see the difference? http://dictionary.reference.com

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          If something is everywhere it is not in everything?

          –adverb in every place or part; in all places. NO PLACE WHERE HE DOESNT EXIST

          –pronoun 1. every thing or particular of an aggregate or total; all. ALL THINGS



          Everywhere means in everything.Everywhere in all places nothing that it doesnt exist in.Meaning existing in all things, in every thing
          How can god be everywhere but not in some thing?
          Whats the joke?
          This is the very basics of god.This is one big problem with this planet today many who have no idea of god claim to be preachers and authorities on god.

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            SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I can't put it any plainer that what I did.

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              In all places means in every thing , have explained to you yet you insist you are correct?
              everything can be the whole and every thing can be every single thing as well.All things,try using some logic.You dont want to learn.

              Lets take a glass of water what you are saying is the glass is god but not the water within? Then god is not omnipresent , this even a 6 year old can understand.

  6. cheaptrick profile image75
    cheaptrickposted 7 years ago

    Why is God a "HE"?
    Why does God take such pains to hide himself?
    Why cant you cook meat and fish together?
    I was walking in a forest and a tree fell.I didn't hear it...

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
      Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      God isn't a He but calling God father and he made it easier for men to be superior to women back in the day. The Title stuck and so did the patriarchal society.

      God doesn't hide we dont comprehend seeing God...When we see God we can't understand or percieve the sight.

      the meat ends up tasting of fish.


      YOU DEAF!!!  wink

      1. cheaptrick profile image75
        cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        WHAT???!!!

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
          Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          LOL

          1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
            Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I said LOL

            1. cheaptrick profile image75
              cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Your pretty cool M...Night.

  7. Jewels profile image82
    Jewelsposted 7 years ago

    You can only have this knowledge by being it.  The Absolute is a state of consciousness and not something that is fathomable by the ordinary mind.  Meaning you have to be out of it totally.  the Absolute is pre manifest state.  It's not physical.  This world is physical and fallen.

    It is not impossible to attain, yet it's totally impossible if you attempt to achieve this through biblical studies!  There is knowledge = bible studies or university degrees, and thee is knowledge = experience.  The experience is where the term Absolute is given integrity.  You have to walk the same path as 'Jesus' to come close to achieving this.  It's not enough to read about it, you have to alter your entire perception of the human physical standpoint.

    Using the term Absolute when speaking about God to mainstream Christians is a recipe for disaster leading to a total misunderstanding of what that term really means.  If you want to bridge Hindu terms to Christianity, you need major context. If not, expect stupid circular answers to what is a very big subject.

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
      Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL sounds like the voice of experience to me... You get one of the t-shirts too?

      1. Jewels profile image82
        Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Fill me in on the t-shirt?

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
          Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          "Been there done that, and I have the T-shirt to prove it." -is an expression here in the States... It has been shortened down to a reference of a t-shirt... but it conveys a shared experience or just an experience. (it was started because of the 't-shirts' millions of tourists buy when they go to some famous place as a souvenir of that visit.)

          1. Jewels profile image82
            Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Ahhhh! Thankyou Mikel

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Nicely said the experience is what really matters.No amount of reading will give one the understanding and knowledge that the experience imparts.Also one will never really understand the holy scriptures properly without this experience.

  8. beebong profile image78
    beebongposted 7 years ago

    Its a journey..try looking at my Hubs and there you will find knowledge and clues as to the mystery,,,:-) its fasinating!

    We are all on the same journey so lets share and explore together.

  9. WriteAngled profile image91
    WriteAngledposted 7 years ago

    A god limited by human cultural perceptions of what s/he is cannot be the All.

    The Qabala speaks of the three veils of negative existence: Ain ("Light") Ain Soph ("Without Limit"), and Ain Soph Aur ("Limitless Light"). These concentrate their force into Kether, the first sphere of the Qabalistic Tree of Life. The spheres of the Tree manifest as the names and aspects of YHWH in the Jewish system or as the various god forms of the diverse pantheons of other religion. However the Source remains hidden behind the veils.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The light is the basic fabric of our universe of ourselves, it permeates everything and is intelligent , and
      pure love. God is this Light.

      "We are constantly fighting like cats and dogs ,
      Reality is covered by some strange fog."
      There is wisdom in the Qabala
      Thank you WriteAngled for adding this point of view. smile

  10. WriteAngled profile image91
    WriteAngledposted 7 years ago

    Because I'm drawn to Egypt, I sometimes use the following analogy:

    I imagine myself within a great pyramid of crystal. Pure light streams into the pyramid through its apex. The light bounces off and is refracted through the crystal. Thus it is split in every possible shade of colour, i.e. various god forms. One of these colours resonates deeply within my soul. This is the god form that is my personal contact. This is the entity with which I can have a relationship. Nevertheless, I remain aware that this is only part of the One, which I cannot comprehend due to the limitations of being human.

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
      Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I call that a religious language, it is the language you can speak, God is fluent in them all... But we both know your smarter than me, so your probably right... or maybe it is just a matter of perception, or perspective...

      1. WriteAngled profile image91
        WriteAngledposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        There is no smart and smarter, no wrong or right. We use whatever words we find, metaphors, images, music to express our experience of a miniscule part of something that is beyond expression.

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
          Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          See I told you  you were smarter than me....wink

        2. Jerami profile image76
          Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

             I agree. To change the world a little bit...
          There can never be an absolute knowledge, by any human being, of something that is infinate.

  11. Jewels profile image82
    Jewelsposted 7 years ago

    That 'God form" would be seen as an emanation of the Absolute in Hindu teachings.  In spiritual realms (accessible via our introversion, or involution, or meditation practices or Third Eye practices, there is a plethora of spaces, presences and experiences to be seen/sensed.  Tangibly accessible.  In practices, our ability to 'have a relationship' is not a vague concept but a perceptible one.  I personally don't use an imagination technique.

 
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