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Will any religious person admit that .....

  1. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 6 years ago

    You don't know what happens or where you go after death.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I do know.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Refer to the previous comment I wrote on your philosophical "enlightenment" and "rebirth". You can use those when you logically explain them, then maybe someone will buy them.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Many do understand and one library has ranked my work next to the Bibles.Its not possible for someone who has not  died ,seen the light and come back to write on it with such clarity.
          I am not the only one to do so every saint or sage on this planet till date has as well, its called enlightenment in English, satori in Japanese,samadhi in India, Fanaah by sufi mystics, fact of life.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            How did I know that was coming. So explain what happens after death since you are so highly ranked. Maybe you are just high.

            1. Cagsil profile image84
              Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              lol

            2. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I have before only to be mocked by people such as you but since is my job I will do so again.
              Your inner energy or soul travels in this tunnel towards this point of light at an incredible speed.Then you reach the end of this tunnel and this point of light becomes huge like the sun,the next thing that happens is you go into this light and explode  into a limitless light,a light with no beginning and no end, bliss, you are this light, its your source where you have come from and will eventually go back to,god.

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Why would anyone mock that? It's perfectly logical.


                Where does heaven come in?

                1. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Why would anyone rank my work with the Bibles?

                  Its something you need to experience for yourself in order to understand I was an atheist and didnt believe either.

                  Heaven is this Light or god

                  1. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    That doesn't explain very much. You would think for an "enlightened" one as you claim to be, there would be more detail.

    2. Mikel G Roberts profile image86
      Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I'll admit it...I think we all admit that....."it comes down to faith" (because we don't 'KNOW')

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks Mikel, I agree.

      2. muslima61 profile image25
        muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        hello again smile just looking this time.... heheh

        1. Freya Cesare profile image75
          Freya Cesareposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Me too. tongue

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      SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I have never claimed to know everything. What I know is what has been revealed to me. I can't say what happens immediately after death, but I do know that all will be judged according to their works. Some will inherit eternal life and other will inherit contempt.

      People don't look at what faith actually is. They call it blind. Faith is not blind but is based on evidence.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I would like you to explain how you know people will be judged after death.

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          SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Jesus told me Himself.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Are you enlightened as well?

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              SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I am a sinner saved by grace through faith not of works, lest any man should boast.

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                lol Don't start writing in tongue and parrables. If you are saved, have you been enlightened? What did Jesus tell you about his judgements after death? Don't quote them from the bible, I want to know what he told you personally.

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                  SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  How can I explain what God says without using God's Word? I said before that I knwo what I do know and what I don't know I know not.

                  If you are asking me if I am enlightened like Mohit, the answer is NO.

                  1. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    lol Why don't you think you are on the same spiritual level as Mohit? Are you enlightened at all? Wasn't your claimed rebirth of excepting Jesus what you refer to as enlightenment? I want to know something Jesus told you personally, not some scripture you are quoting. Did he only tell you what was written in scripture? How convenient.

                  2. Mina Valentine profile image60
                    Mina Valentineposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Hey SirDent? what GOD tells YOU is for YOU and YOU only. God will judge. We were not to be put on this earth to be judge and juror of anyone. Again, there is a fine line here where a person who has not been led to ...."seek HIM....." at least not yet anyways...LOL...we can pray that The Lord will answer AND LEAD folk to but every child/person born is not OF God. That IS first and foremost.

              2. Loves To Read profile image59
                Loves To Readposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Hallelujah to that brother. I love to see people who not only declare their faith in Christ but who will actually stand for Jesus and what he did for ALL MANKIND so that we may have life and have it more abundantly.
                Would anyone of you out there sacrifice your life so your enemies could live a happy and prosperous life?
                Jesus did so we all had the same right to choose eternal life.

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          Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          'judgment' is no court room drama.
          'judgment' of purity v. impurity is the answer.

          how do we know? just as anything that nears the sun is burned by fire.
          what remains is pure, else is swallowed by the Consuming Fire.

    4. Alessia Amnesia profile image61
      Alessia Amnesiaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Not sure if you're looking for Christians or what...

      But I'll bite.

      I consider myself a very religious person, although I am a Wiccan, not a Christian and I will openly admit that I have no idea where you go when you die.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Nothing to bite really, I was just looking for honesty. Thanks for answering honestly.

    5. kess profile image60
      kessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      There are those who do not know.

      But there are those who do and there is much consistency to the stories without each merely repeating the others.

      The issue is, most are quite happy believing what suits them, and the truth is of no importance.

      But death and darkness and ignorance are synonymous and opposite to life and light knowledge.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What is the consistency of the story of life after death? White light? Very explanatory. lol
        How does a person find themselves if you say that truth is no importance. Truth is what makes a person. lol

        1. kess profile image60
          kessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Marine if you do not understand the answer, it is better to ask for than to presume it is ridiculous.
          If you had the right answer, them by all means critersize.

          But to be ignorant and critersize from that basis is foolish.

          Death and life are all around us and they are perceived with the sight of the eye and the sight of the mind.

          When one "dies" physically, he is actually merely going back to his origin, which is either death, darkness, nothing.

          Or life, light, all things.

          Marine ponder first to know and not merely to refute, ignorance too is death.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol I have been "pondering" for quite "awhile". Have you pondered awhile?

            I keep seeing empty claims with no explanations, so yeah, i'm left to assume when someone makes empty claims with no explanations. Most often the correct assumptions for claims with no explanations is that they are based on faith without explanation.

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Meditate and find out , I did ,kess has got his own realization.

    6. Jerami profile image79
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Faith in God is kinda like this...
        You are sitting on the couch when your 6 year old daughter comes into the living room on Christmas Morning.
        You hand her a very pretty wrapped box with a bow and card  on it.
        She has faith that you love her and that there is something in the box. She doesn't know what it is ...  She just has faith in you that the box is not empty.

          But if that box has to go through a couple of middle men?? ;
      Her faith could be greatly decreased when she opens the box.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol These parrables kill me. First, I don't have a daughter, I have a son. Second, middle man or not, whats inside the box will likely not have a God voice when the box is opened. In another words,

        Just because there is something in the box doesn't mean it's God. Too many people assume whats in the box before opening it.

        1. Jerami profile image79
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The question was why we do not know more about the afterlife.
              You do not seem to have much of an imagination, Does Logic kill Imagination?
               The parable wes spoken such that those with understand about Faith would immediately know what I was talking about while others would not.
               You were argueing wordage instead of looking for the spirit of the statement.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol Ok, so faith there was something in the box, wow. Here is my imagination. Does faith that something in the box mean that there is before you even open it? I agree faith makes you feel better about the chances of having a present in the box, this doesn't make it absolute that there is a present in the box. It relates directly with death as my previous comment. I think you are the one with the lacking imagination.

            Relate not knowing whats in the box with not knowing what happens at death. It takes faith to both believe there is something in the box before looking and to believe there is an afterlife before dying.

            If you wouldn't attempt to use so many Jesus parrables, it would make things less complicated. Or does using Jesus parrables mean you have an enlightened imagination?

            1. Jerami profile image79
              Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I would not call it a Jesus parable.
              Some people would call this analogy.
              And no I am not claiming anything of myself other than to be a simple man with simple understanding.

              Sometimes it takes a simple mind to see the simple answer.
              Why do we look for such complicated answers for simple questions.
                 I think that Jesus used his parables in an attempt to show this to the Pharisees,  because they were so HIGH minded, he wanted to answer as simply as possible and yet they still didn't get it.

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Some would call it an analogy unless the person writing it is a follower of Jesus and has already used parrables multiple times on the forums. Come on. They are pretty much the same anyways.

                Maybe they didn't get it because he didn't have the ability to "enlighten" them.

        2. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          And you havent found god so you assume believers assumptions are foolish and egoistical, why do you want to go to a place filled with such fools?

          1. skyfire profile image71
            skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry to get in between but if you ask me it is good business opportunity, your faith my business. This is how shops outside temple and church/durga/mosque etc work. This is how politics/religion works. There needs to be product to sell something, faith is one good product.

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              You dont have to buy.Not forcing you or threating you with any consequences at all.

          2. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol You are right, I do think most assumptions are foolish and egotistical. They make claims through faith without explanation or evidence. Are you sure it is me in the place of fools?

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              You keep calling me a fool and arrogant and  I am supposed to say yes , how can I not be one only ranked with Bibles Qurans and Bhagwat Gitas,have to be a fool no one else can do such a thing, only foolish prophets and saints can. smile

        3. Mina Valentine profile image60
          Mina Valentineposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          MARINE.....the example given about faith......and their six yr old daughter....hmmm?......u responded about having a son WHICH was irrelevant to what was said as an example again and while HAVING A BABY or a child is wonderful....(Bless The Lord for children), I feel you have not truly tried to be open minded about what has been said. How do you know what a parable is and how would you know if these ARE Bible quotes IF they haven't given you a scripture OR you haven't read it for yourself?(New King James version for YOU would be an easier read) You must read The Bible. the answers are in there. Instead you lean unto 'man' (humans)FOR answers instead of seeking The Lord.

    7. aware profile image71
      awareposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      i have ideas

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        With explanations?

    8. connorj profile image80
      connorjposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I went to a place that I could "best" describe as Eden; however, I could not conclude it was Eden. If interested you can read my probable near death experience (NDE) from a website. The URL is:http://www.nderf.org/john_c_probable_nde.htm
      Although there is no quantitative evidence to conclude anything in after-life; perhaps our faith is our greatest catalyst/weapon and our greatest inhibitor is lack of faith. Before my NDE I had little faith. Now I am filled and as you may summize my cup is running over.

    9. Davidsonofjesie profile image60
      Davidsonofjesieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      not sure where i am going, but do know where i am not going!

    10. Pandoras Box profile image83
      Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I'm not a religious person. But I believe in life after death. We die. Our bodies rot. This provides building blocks for new life forms. Life after death. It's a cycle, and we're all part of it. Unless you get cremated and spend eternity in a jar.

    11. EWS profile image60
      EWSposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I think the best way to to answer that question with a question:

      a) Why do you ask that in the first place?  There has to be something that prompted that question (I assume)

      and more importantly

      b)  If we do not go anywhere when we die, then what is your outlook on "the end."  Do we live 70 yrs old, maybe 90 if we ar strong, and then die, and thats it.  Thats is a scary outlook

      1. Sara Tonyn profile image59
        Sara Tonynposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Actually I was just following up on what was being discussed. I'm not sure if it really existed on Earth. Of course I'm not a believer in a literal version of the Adam and Eve story so...

        I think there's something more after we die cuz I think we're energy that continues taking different shapes and forms. Does that make sense?

    12. Dim Flaxenwick profile image59
      Dim Flaxenwickposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I can't speak for anyone but myself, but as far as I'm concerned the Bible is God's word.Like a letter from a loving father far away and he tells us at Ecclesiastes chapter 9 verse 5 ....that the dead are concious of nothing at all. Just a nice long sleep till the resurrection.

    13. vox vocis profile image91
      vox vocisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The sight goes as far as the thought goes!
      A religious person doesn't know but has faith.

      1. Jewels profile image81
        Jewelsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Isn't it possible for you to see beyond your thoughts, and then allow thoughts to fathom what you see?  Vision is limitless and only limited by your thoughts.  Consciousness is an expandable vehicle.  It even reaches beyond what we know as heaven.  The universe is an enormous playground of vision.

    14. justhumorme167 profile image61
      justhumorme167posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Why would any religious person admit that?  Wouldn't that negate the purpose of faith?

      I'm not religious at all, but you are the kind of person that makes non-religious people look as silly as religious people.  You don't know how to debate from an intellectual standpoint.

      I hate being rude, but since you've been rude to anyone who even attempts to answer your question, I'll be rude, too.  You should learn this lesson: do not ask a question if you do not want to get an answer.  You are asking for opinions - really, you are asking for a fight.

      And this "enlightenment" stuff is incredibly interesting - you keep harping on it.  You need to study religions and understand how people who follow those religions think and the terms they use.  Many western religions don't use that word, so you are simply confusing people into losing a rather one-sided argument.

      And those who try to debate with you about the life after death thing... all I can do is sigh.  It's walking into a trap.  They will learn.

      As for you, you sound like someone who just got in an argument with their religious mother, and decided to come on a forum and rant.

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        Kingfisher7posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Wisdom.  Peace to you.

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      L. Andrew Marrposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Of course we don't know...noone can know for certain.

      But we can believe. It's the belief which is important to us, not the verification of that belief.

      As R.M. Hare said: We all have a blik (certain way of looking at the world) which will never change.

      Just because we don't know doesn't mean we will stop believing.

      Hope that clears some things up smile

      Luke.

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Do you think Jesus ,Buddha, Mahavira and the other prophets and saints didn't know and spoke totally out of blind belief?

    16. shiva tattva profile image61
      shiva tattvaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Many saints and yogis have already elaborated on this. Hence there's no ambiguity here.

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        there's always ambiguity in beliefs.
        no proofs
        no clues.
        Millions of different interpretations.

        Only Faith.

    17. Daniel Carter profile image90
      Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Nope. Don't have a clue. No solid evidence one way or another that I can find. I *sense* there is plenty beyond this life. I only sense it.

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    lyricsingrayposted 6 years ago

    Not quite understanding what response your looking for hon.  Please explain. smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      An honest religious person that admits they don't know everything they claim or their religion claims. I think the promise of life after death is of religions biggest recruitment tools.

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        Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Actually, that's not true.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Alright, why not? Would a Muslim suicide bomber blow himself up without the promise of heaven and virgins?

        2. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you very, very much.

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol
            she wasn't talking to you, nor the topic you're in !
            do you understand English ??
            lol

        3. skyfire profile image71
          skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          In this thread right now i'm experiencing something different. And we have evidence as well that religious people claim something more than what they have.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            The prophets have had to face a lot of abuse and ridicule for speaking the truth, they don't need to lie, what do they get for it ,torture and crucification? You think it is fun?

            1. skyfire profile image71
              skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Fun ?  Oh galactus, this is above my head now.

              I asked you to prove that you ranked in sales and ranking that's it. No abuse and no torture fun etc. If you're denying your own claims with some funny one-liners then i can't help it. Just give me the stats that you're much better than dan brown and my mouth will be shut.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Thank you for being truthful and saying its beyond your comrehenson. smile
                Look up my profile its so easy to do that.Dont need to lie to you.
                I like your quality of saying show me proof and I will accept , I have shown many others here including tantrum but even after that they still insist on trying to ridicule me .

                1. skyfire profile image71
                  skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Beyond my comprehension ? read again "above my head". You ranked high with this English comprehension ?

                  Come on, santa kill me now can't tolerate this "self bais" anymore big_smile

                  1. tantrum profile image61
                    tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    lol
                    lol

                  2. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Did you seen my profile you said you will stop once you have seen proof unlike some others.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Everyone is not the same. Not everyone who believes in God is religious.
            And..you have no such evidence. How can you assert evidence????
            You can't

            1. skyfire profile image71
              skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Lurk for a while as we are airing it live, if you read this thread you can figure it out that some religious people do claim that they have known more things but they don't in reality.

      2. Brian McKinlay profile image75
        Brian McKinlayposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        It's not life after death that most concerns me as a Christian, it's this life, here and now--how to live well.  That's what Jesus was on about.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Both actually, the first as you say after one is reborn he lives a more complete life and on death he goes back home.

  3. goldenpath profile image80
    goldenpathposted 6 years ago

    Sure, as a minister I will admit that I do not know for certainty what happens after death.  However, because of my long years of study, searching, praying and hoping I have acquired the satisfactory answers to my question.  Now, all the answers to my questions portray a magnificent tapestry of life that I cannot deny.  I have a deep faith and testimony in those answers but I kid no one.  I have not been dead so I cannot paint the picture for anyone.  What I can do though is continue to offer answers as I have acquired them.  The good thing, though, is that on occasion someone likes and accepts the answers given and become heirs of that same faith.

    But to each his/her own.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for an honest answer. I am confused. Do you preach that you don't know what happens after death or do you preach what scripture says of going to heaven?

      1. goldenpath profile image80
        goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I mince no words with anyone.  I preach faith according to scripture, continued revelation and the knowledge one gains through their faithful service and good works.  These all constitute the perpetuation of more knowledge according to worthiness.  I can say I know what goes on after death but I can only give you the work that goes on as an outline.  Details no one can give but I can give an outline according to the knowledge I have gained.

        I know that all this is clear as mud but that is how I can explain my answer to your question.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol, If you contradict yourself, I will pick you apart. I don't think you are being honest. You first claim that you don't know what happens after death and then say "I can say I know what goes on after death but I can only give you the work that goes on as an outline."

          Scripture says a person that is saved and accepts God goes to heaven after death. You said earlier that you don't know what happens after death, but you say you still preach what scripture says happens after death.

          "Details no one can give but I can give an outline according to the knowledge I have gained."

          Please logically explain the knowledge you have gained of life after death along with the outline. I find it faith based that you can have knowledge after death without dying yet. Don't try to use "enlightenment" or "rebirth" on this one either. I am talking about literal death, not philosophical death from which you claim wisdom.

          1. goldenpath profile image80
            goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry for any confusion.  There is no contradiction.  You wanted to know if any religious person will admit that they don't know.  I submit to you that anyone has not crossed the valley of death themselves cannot tell in concrete the footpaths trod along the way.  That is all I am saying.  Now as far as salvation is concerned and the workings of the yet disembodied, yes, I can explain those things.  I don't believe I have contradicted anything.  Sure, it may sound as such but it really isn't.  I have acquired my knowledge through the things I've stated above and I believe it firmly. 

            We are all individuals.  The path to the other side are many and each of us has a varied path according to our deeds, faith and ordination.  I think it is in these varied paths that you and I are misunderstanding each other.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Alright, please explain what you know about life after death.

              1. goldenpath profile image80
                goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this
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            Kingfisher7posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            "Scripture says a person that is saved and accepts God goes to heaven after death."

            Christian scripture does not say that.  Our soul will rest until the end times when His enemies have been put under His foot and satan is cast into the lake of fire.  At the resurrection, Judgment Day, when the Book of Life is opened, we will live forever in His Kingdom.

            1. Jerami profile image79
              Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  If I am correct in the way that I understand my KJV,
              When a person dies in the Lord, they do go streight to heaven.
                   But that is because I believe that the first rescurection has already occured, approx 1114 years ago.

    2. caravalhophoto profile image60
      caravalhophotoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I could not have replied to this topic any better.  Nobody knows what death is like except those who are dead...so the question is still not understood by me.

      I am a Christian with a fear of God, some do not understand why the fear...my answer on that question is because I believe in God and his Word (my interpertation of the Bible-no one elses).  I also believe; after death, I do want a life of love and peace, no disease, no war...that is what I want here and "Man" has destroyed that for all, not God.

      No matter what your religion, faith or lack of belief, I believe that my beliefs make me a better person because I want for something better after death. I'm not claiming I'm perfect, I have made huge mistakes and have turned my back on God many times, but when I take the time to sit and talk and pray to God...my life always takes a dramatic turn for the better.  That is my proof to myself that I want the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost by myside here on Earth and after death. smile

      Like goldenpath said "to each his/her own"

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Is thought or will free if it is based on fear?

        If you say everything is mans fault and say man is creation of God, you are saying it is Gods fault. If I raised my child to be evil, he would probably be evil. Why did God raise his children to be evil?


        I don't think theres anything wrong with having faith in an afterlife. I think it is possible. The part I think wrong is people telling others what will happen as if they know.

        1. caravalhophoto profile image60
          caravalhophotoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It is MY belief and MY want to fear God, because I believe in His word.

          God did not start War...Man did.  God does not Steal...Man did.  God does not Rape or Molest Children...Man did.  If you have no faith or belief in Him, how would you not know better...people want to blame God for everything, so for them he doesn't exist...

          I take responsibility for my own decisions and I except the consequences to them good or bad...I don't blame God for my decisions,I learn from them. If I was wrong or I hurt somebody, I apologize to that person and try my damdest to make it right...I ask for forgiveness from that person and I forgive myself...

          Children are brought into this World innocent, they are taught and molded by their parents and unfortunetly; society.  Children aren't born liars, theifs, biggots, raciest-they are taught that as they are growing by the actions of their surroundings...if that is all they are taught, chances are that is what they will be.  Who created their surroundings...God?  No. Here is a take responsibility for yourself moment, while blaming God is an easy out for some, others (like myself) would look at it as a cop out a way to not take responsibility and make things right.

          Whether you believe in God, a higher power or are Spiritual but not religious and even if you have no belief at all...if you are a good person here on Earth...and by the way ALL OF YOU DO live by the Ten Commandments...you may have strayed off now and then, look them up...ya do, it is MY belief YOU will be with God after your time here is over.

    3. thevoice profile image61
      thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      no one knows yet knowing of God Jesus the holy spirit you can feel lost loved ones its like insight into life beyond life. God feels lives in all human life Jesus taught this for all people

  4. The Rope profile image61
    The Ropeposted 6 years ago

    I don't know  what goes on after death and I've never really understood why this is such an issue.  I do completely trust God so whatever happens is perfect.  Sounds trite but that's my view.

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      lyricsingrayposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile

      1. Jane@CM profile image59
        Jane@CMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        another big_smile

    2. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What do you think happens to those that don't believe in a God?

  5. habee profile image90
    habeeposted 6 years ago

    I echo Rope's thoughts on the matter!

  6. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 6 years ago

    OH !!!! NOT AGAIN !!
    yikes

    1. muslima61 profile image25
      muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      hahahah... yep and i didnt start this one hehehe

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    A Texanposted 6 years ago

    I think God is sending me to Nebraska, I haven't been very good.

    1. goldenpath profile image80
      goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I'm in Iowa - that's Purgatory! sad

      1. muslima61 profile image25
        muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        hahahaha...... so is Manchester . uk smile

        1. goldenpath profile image80
          goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I'll trade you for a week.  I've always wanted to see the UK.  I'll gladly give up my towering snow drifts.

          1. muslima61 profile image25
            muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            hahaha your on...... !!! hehehe

            manchester great dump of the north hehehe

            1. Sufidreamer profile image80
              Sufidreamerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              There is one good thing about Manchester...



              ...at least it's not Birmingham big_smile

              1. muslima61 profile image25
                muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                hahahahahaha 2 great dumps of the north heyyyyyyy hehehe
                smile smile smile

        2. Sufidreamer profile image80
          Sufidreamerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol lol

          1. muslima61 profile image25
            muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            go check my hub about smiling hehehehehe smile) smile)

          2. muslima61 profile image25
            muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            hahahaha smile) not joking its!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            no i'm a lady cant say but you can guess.... now Greece .... ooooooooo im jealous ......... hot summers .... be lucky to get one day here lol

    2. The Rope profile image61
      The Ropeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      big_smilebig_smilebig_smilebig_smilebig_smile:  Sorry I can't stop laughing!

      Marinealways - my question back is whose God?  (I have very expansive and inclusive views.)

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I don't know, I was referring to your use of the word God.

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      SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      For not being good you are sent to Australia.

      1. muslima61 profile image25
        muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        oo is it snowing there as well ??

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          SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I think it is summer in Austalia. I am in the USA, West Virginia to be exact.

          1. muslima61 profile image25
            muslima61posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            ooo okkk im looking for some sunshine, darn horrible british weather summer winter all the same smile)

            1. Sufidreamer profile image80
              Sufidreamerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Not much better in Greece, at the moment, but it will be summer in a couple of months smile

              I miss my family in the North, sometimes. The weather...not in the slightest big_smile

        2. Mikel G Roberts profile image86
          Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That must be why there are so many more women in Australia....lol

          (7 to 1 ratio isn't it?)

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            SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Could be. Not sure about the ratio.

        3. Jewels profile image81
          Jewelsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          So does that mean God is ok with bad people if he sends them to paradise?

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            SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You have to know the history between Tex and Earnest to know what is meant.

            1. Jewels profile image81
              Jewelsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              OK I'll stay out of that loop. Tks SirDent

          2. Mikel G Roberts profile image86
            Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol

      2. AdsenseStrategies profile image73
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I am pretty sure that was the last line of Raising Arizona...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teJQwslU9D4

      3. tobey100 profile image61
        tobey100posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        My God, Nebraska????  What on earth have you been doing?

      4. justhumorme167 profile image61
        justhumorme167posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol i've been in hell in Erie. I'm moving to Tucson - that should be heaven or at least one of the many heavens some religions describe, right? smile

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I hope so ! big_smile
          Heaven and Hell are within us.
          Try to live in Heaven

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Nice avatar! Are you a girl ?

    4. cheaptrick profile image64
      cheaptrickposted 6 years ago

      Well according to Maven, who has converted me to the Frisbeetarian Church,your soul goes up on the roof and gets Stuck.
      And I believe him.
      Praise be to the Great Frisbee on the roof.
      Amen...

    5. skyfire profile image71
      skyfireposted 6 years ago

      Appeal to authority.

    6. theirishobserver. profile image62
      theirishobserver.posted 6 years ago

      I have a very simple understanding of God/faith what ever, I could read myself to death but I bother not, I intend doing a hub on my personal experiece once I get of these forums (love them), when I was at my lowest ebb in life and all my friends had abandoned me I reached out to someone/something and I was brought back to start life again....it will make more sense when I write about it in a few minutes....

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I am not arguing that there couldn't be an absolute energy or power guiding us and the universe, I think it is possible. I think it is only assuming to title the energy God.

    7. skyfire profile image71
      skyfireposted 6 years ago

      How is it possible to unite religions ? I mean in islam there is 1 god, same with Christianity, 33  crore gods in hinduism, 1 god FSM, Million Elohims experimenting in Raelions,santa,galactus and religion list goes on..How can someone in their wildest adsense dreams can unite all religions ?  It's like steve jobs promoting SQL server and Microsoft promoting Next Apple OS using Linux operating system.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Good points. To unite all religions would also mean that they would all have to sacrifice some of their control and power over followers to meet at a common ground and belief. Possibly an irrational belief to believe all can be united. Maybe only believed through faith.

      2. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Watch me.

        1. skyfire profile image71
          skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Try all you can, start with typos/grammar in writing before you do that. Just friendly suggestion.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Not at all important, dont give it importance.

            1. skyfire profile image71
              skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              There you go, this is where it starts to fall. You want to unite the world without giving importance to language with which you want to communicate with the world ? Is this over confidence or ignorance ? In any case you know what it is if you're close to what they call spiritual. Isn't being perfect in action counts or that is just another adjustment ? If so, you did first adjustment and is going to be barrier towards your world-uniting goal.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                My work is ranked 2 in spiritual and religious books if you want to castrate me for a typing error, you are being very petty.For such a small mistake years of my life and work go for a toss is being childish.
                Would you ridicule the Bible Quran or Bhagwat Gita for a typing or spelling error, any book for that matter?
                The message is more important.

                1. marinealways24 profile image61
                  marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  lol How about back up your claims with documents that show your rankings to go along with your sales. Also post those nasty feedbacks people left you after purchasing what you wrote.

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Again being petty many more positive review than negative but yo will look at the few negative reviews only, which book in the world hasnt got negative reviews as well. yours on the self?
                    Juts petty and nothing else.

                    1. marinealways24 profile image61
                      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                      As of today, how many copies have you sold in comparison to how many copies of the bible has been sold?

                2. skyfire profile image71
                  skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Petty ? I bet not. You ranked among "spiritual and religious" genre and not among "All-time top Book seller list" right ? You know what i mean. It is business, i can get 10,000 followers in twitter in 2-4 days. Selling religious book is way more easy as delusional people outweighs rational. Try writing something like Harry potter,angles and demons and compete with JK Rowling/dan brown, if you intended to boast on numbers. This boasting of numbers will get you nowhere. Atleast people here will tolerate that as most of us are not book writer.

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Since its so easy for you write and get ranked over Bibles Qurans and Bhagwata Gitas so many have till date you can easily do so with your wisdom.Too childish.
                    This is me try to understand there is  one on this planet who can give you a better explanation about life and god.
                    Ranked over Dan Browns  books by this library.Ranked 2 do you understand?

                    1. skyfire profile image71
                      skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                      Don't make me laugh by saying you ranked better than dan browns. You know what other than that book store you own and hubpages, people know dan brown more than you.

                      Lol you're making me laugh. Have you heard about word " cognitive dissonance" ? This is today's lesson for you: read about it and also do search nizkor or google for "Logical fallacies".

                    2. marinealways24 profile image61
                      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                      I'm absolutely positive that someone that puts so much importance on his rankings has his documentation of it along with his sales. Where is your documentation?


                      I will give you credit Mohit, you provide stimulus, but not as a prophet, more as a prop.

                3. skyfire profile image71
                  skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  You lack skeptic inside your mind. I only upvote something if i feel that it is worth it. I even ask people who read my writing to  critique if there are mistakes. Those who go into "self bias" don't intend to evolve but to stick with their small world. You know now what is my answer to finding error in scripture. Being skeptical i have literally scrutinized scriptures and made remarks which many times in these religious threads ignored by wanna-be preachers.

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                  (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Is there some reason why you feel the need to high-jack every single thread with self-promoting gibberish?

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Is there a need for you to try and ridicule me every single time I answer a question?

    8. 0
      Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago

      death has power over you. for you are no longer ruled by the law, instead you are ruled by Grace -Great Grace.

      enjoy the day

      1. kess profile image60
        kessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        if I may...kess

    9. skyfire profile image71
      skyfireposted 6 years ago

      Look at this contradiction, in Hinduism preachers say that god is beyond logic and comprehension and on another side they say you need to realize god. See word play ? I guess most of religions do preach something like that( They want to get enlightenment from something that is not comprehensible & beyond logic, some even claim that they realized god, another assumption of theirs is they think prophets are necessary but god can't lower his knees for his creation(busy fellow in recession).

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        It seems to me like they are pretty much saying to use faith over logic as you stated with word play. I think most religious preachers know that logic puts/keeps faith in balance. If they had balanced believers, the believers likely wouldn't be dependent on the preachers. I think part of the enlightenment concept that a lot of religious have is simply wanting to have more favoritism over others. Most religious that think they are enlightened seem wanting to spread the message that they are closer to God than those not enlightened.

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          Kingfisher7posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Faith....

          When you walk to the edge of all the light you have
          and take that first step into the darkness of the unknown,
          you must believe that one of two things will happen:

          There will be something solid for you to stand upon,
          or, you will be taught how to fly

          Patrick Overton - The Leaning Tree

    10. Onusonus profile image85
      Onusonusposted 6 years ago

      I do not know for sure where I will go when I die, but I was planning on getting a nice, comfortable, pine box. Of course not everyone goes to the same place, some people end up on their relatives mantle in an urn, others are buried at sea.

    11. Jerami profile image79
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago

      Marinealways  said...
        Some would call it an analogy unless the person writing it is a follower of Jesus and has already used parrables multiple times on the forums. Come on. They are pretty much the same anyways.

      Maybe they didn't get it because he didn't have the ability to "enlighten" them.
         
      Jerami says...
      Some people can call it anything that they want to.
      This doesn't change what it is. Such a simply stated message that some people can not see truth in it..

        When Jesus was doing this "Those" that did not understand  were those that God had said that their eyes would be blinded that they NOT SEE.   
        For had they been able to see prophesy might not have been fulfilled.

         I have to go to work in a few minutes; and make a living but will be checking back in later.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol You are pretty much saying that God knew the people wouldn't listen to Jesus, but sent Jesus to them anyways. This is saying that God used his son Jesus as a science experiment to make a point just to fill a prophesy. Sounds pretty silly to me.

        1. Jerami profile image79
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

             God knew that not everyone would believe Jesus. YES!
          We do not know how many did!  It was not an experiment cause he knows the outcome and that the way that he is doin it will yield the maximum product; so to speak.
             to answer another question that I read while reading through the previous posts;   
             Human  biggest downfall is his arrogance, conceit, and his pride in himself for the things that was given to him or her. These things that we were given to us , we had NO control over so why are we proud?
              If we are pretty, intelligent, strong or mighty, if we have a pretty head of hair (which I do) has nothing to do with our abilities to be this way. So take this  pride in your/ our self and wrap it up in Christmas wrapping paper and all that we will have is a ball of wrapping paper. Where ever we are at we can only count it as a blessing.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            It can still be an experiment if someone already knows or has a good idea of the outcome.

            Why are we proud? Ask the bible. It teaches that believers are favored and should be proud for believing in God. You aren't proud that God made you a human instead of an ant? If you wasn't proud, you may not believe in a God.

            When you say our abilities don't matter in furthering ourselves, I disagree. If a person continually works to improve themselves outside of how they are born and what they are born into, their pride and proudness could have been the main motivation that drove them to be a better person and learn new things.

      2. skyfire profile image71
        skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        this is again assumption and biggest faith-protection plan(insurance plan you can say) from believers that god said this and that, is there any way you can validate god said this ? words in bible are from human and not from god.

    12. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      With something called INTELLIGENCE

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Some are intelligent without pride. That could be as blinding as pride without intelligence.

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Nobody is intelligent without pride.
          Intelligence makes you proud of yourself in a healthy way. Intelligent people have ,and a lot, but they know it's intelligent to conceal it.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I agree with that as well partially. But I do think so people can/are intelligent without ever discovering they are intelligent. Maybe the most intelligent ones are the ones that have balance of pride and intelligence while getting the closest and most honest to who they truly are.

    13. Onusonus profile image85
      Onusonusposted 6 years ago

      With my luck, my kids will have me stuffed, and I'll end up in the living room, dressed like Teddy Rosevelt.......
      I'll shut up now.

    14. theirishobserver. profile image62
      theirishobserver.posted 6 years ago

      As promised I have just done my new hub on this very topic...

    15. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      whatever ! It's too hot for me to think.
      we have 37 degrees here !

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol It is pretty "hot" here as well. Where are you from again? GM to you btw.

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Buenos Aires, Argentina

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I have never been there, but I like the name. lol

    16. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      How can an enlightened prophet can be so CHILDISH !!!

      1. skyfire profile image71
        skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Moreover some even go by marrying a child...

    17. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      lol lol lol
      someone in here needs a walking stick for blind people !

      Can't believe it's still going on !!!
      what arrogance can make of a man ! Wow !
      lol

    18. skyfire profile image71
      skyfireposted 6 years ago

      I never blame something that doesn't exist. I'm not anti-theist. So i guess this applies to only small percentage of people who hate entity that earlier exist for them but not now.

    19. skyfire profile image71
      skyfireposted 6 years ago

      I used to think like Nihilist many times, but these type of people gives me hope that there is some more meaning to Life( and that is humor out of delusion that one rational must enjoy) Thanks santa for this fun big_smile

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Still ranked over Dan browns books smile Who is delusional?

        1. skyfire profile image71
          skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          big_smile
          big_smile
          big_smile

          Oh please i'll die laughing man. Is there any smiley for ROFL TSNUNAMI. i want that one,..   neutral

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lollol lol

            OHHHHHHH please !!!!!!!!

            this is too much.those rankings !!!!
            lol

    20. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      STOP this childishness , pleasseee !
      I can't stop laughing !
      lol lol lol lol lol

    21. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      lol

    22. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      And here we go again !! lol

    23. skyfire profile image71
      skyfireposted 6 years ago

      Ok let's get back to business, In which Bookstore of internet you rank more ? Which is that most popular bookstore ?

      Care to give us graphic of your sales stats and URL of site ?

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Have done so many times look it up.If you are nice I will put it up  but like this no way.

        1. skyfire profile image71
          skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Forget whatever happened so far aren't you spiritualist to forget such foul dance from infidels ? Don't act like child you need to have tolerance for criticism, aren't you with god knowledge? So forget sinners like me.

          Just put those stats on your hub profile that will do for me and all those hubber who think dan-brown is better than you.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I havent abused anyone of you while debating right now you all have abused me.
            Marine asked questions and I answered them  but since he couldn't relate and neither could you all I got was attitude .
            Marine was rude earlier and he ad sorry and I said no probs, lets continue and intelligent debate.

            1. skyfire profile image71
              skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Abuse ? Asking for proof of claim is abuse ? I just asked for your stats that's it,i have nothing to ask from you about what you are and what you did in that book. Look at your earlier posts, you're boasting your numbers which are not their in first place. So that is why we're repeatedly asking for stats of your sales and ranking in bookstore on internet.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I said I have posted this many times look it up, look at my profile, was asked not to post links by the hub pages moderators so I am not.

                1. marinealways24 profile image61
                  marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I am currently looking at book sales for amazon books in spirituality. What number are you?

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    When did I say amazon sales?

                    1. marinealways24 profile image61
                      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                      What site do I look the rankings up on?

                2. skyfire profile image71
                  skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Fair enough not here, you can place link on profile which shows stats of sales. Links on your current profile (none are pointing to detailed stats).

            2. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              lol You answered my questions? You are kidding right?

    24. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 6 years ago

      He-he, Mo keeps entertaining generations of hubbers lol

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol
        it's entertaining me alright !
        lol

        1. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It just gets boring eventually, after you ponder awhile lol

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol lol
            Well , after pondering a while I get bored eventually ! lol

      2. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yup and I remember you threatened to get me banned for saying I am enlightened so many time. smile
        Made friends with atheist like your friend Mark , he is a lot most likely to attain salvation than believers such as you. smile
        Far more intelligent and truthful than you.

        Still loading and taking your cheap shots.

    25. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      Biography of Mohit Misra
                 
      Poet/philosopher author of 'Ponder Awhile'
      Getting enlightened while sailing in the Merchant Navy has compelled me to write and share the God knowledge I have gained.
      Spirituality and Religion-Franklin
      http: //find.franklin.com/nav/ca/Spiritual%20%26%20Religion/gr/ebooks/0
      1.the Holy Bible -King James Version
      2.Ponder Awhile- Mohit.K.Misra
      http: //www.amazon.com/Ponder-Awhile-Mohit-K-Misra/dp/1419646729


      He's not above the Bible ! lol

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Is ranked 2 something bad?something to laugh about? Ranked over 50 other Bible editons on that library.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          http://groups.google.am/group/uk.philos … efc8a7fe25


          Is this a page you made up and put yourself at the top ranking? This is what it looks like.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Rubbish I said a library, look properly.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              lol The elibrary? lol

              I think I found it. You are talking about an e library ranking? Wow

              http://e-library.net/Spirituality.htm

              Sorry, I posted the wrong link before.

    26. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      lol

    27. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      lol
      this is getting better !!

    28. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      that's not even official.
      I'm just showing you don't even know how you're ranked.
      If you do, show us !

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        How put the link up ten times but since it fall into the category of advertising I cannot as I dont want to break the hub pages rule smile

    29. theirishobserver. profile image62
      theirishobserver.posted 6 years ago

      Compost smile

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol

    30. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      lol

    31. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 6 years ago

      Amazing. On the previous link I posted. The other link has a completely different list of rankings. Looks like an inside job to me. big_smile

      http://www.bestwebbuys.com/Poetry-Inspi … books.html

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Very 'enlightening' !!
        lol

      2. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Rankings keep changing was ranked higher than what is shown and its not the library I am talking about.

        1. skyfire profile image71
          skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          So you mean offline local store ? Fine for me. That way i can be a good artist in my city and beat piccaso by miles within my city but in any case stats are stats.

    32. goldenpath profile image80
      goldenpathposted 6 years ago

      Hello everyone!  Well it looks like there have been some lively and useless debate as usual on this thread as in others.  I just wanted to drop a note on some productive activity I've been involved with this morning.

      This morning I and other leaders took our Young Men youth group and shoveled snow from around and paths to many of our community fire hydrants.  This was a very worthy cause.  Through their effort and faith they may have helped save a life by making way for a fireman to acquire water to put out a fire that may or may not happen.  Because they have done a very noble good deed and have aided in that which was unseen (a possible fire) they have acquired greater faith in their service.  This, I and the participants cannot deny.  These works are written in their books of life and will be a benefit and evidence for them in the realm of spirits when they have passed on.  If continued faithful in works it will help them qualify to come forth in the forward mornings of the Resurrection to dwell upon the Earth with increased responsibility and potential.

      1. goldenpath profile image80
        goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        They have cleared about 100 fire hydrants.  Coolness!

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Why couldn't they clean out around the fire hydrants simply for the feeling of doing a good deed rather than expectation and favoritism of God in heaven?

          1. goldenpath profile image80
            goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            They did!  That is the reality of all good deeds.  Sincerity of deeds is for the love of fellow man and not for recognition from God or destination.  As their leader I am overviewing what their service has done for them personally.

          2. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            A good deed is a  good deed simple.

    33. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      Mohit,
      you don't understand English ,I think !
      lol

    34. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 6 years ago

      http://e-library.net/Ponder-Awhile__visit3792.html


      lol And here is the link you where you are ranked above the bibles. On the elibrary.


      Is this the money link that your pride is based on?

    35. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      and i'm giving up on this thread !
      lol

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        SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You are not!!!!!!

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          so true.

        2. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Well, maybe if you come in here, I'll have to stay a bit longer !lol

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            SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I have been trying to read it all.

          2. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Why to get your daily kicks by mocking someone believing in god.

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              What an idiot he believes in god , a higher intelligence,I dont I am so smart?

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                No, I don't think thats how it works. I think it works by people to be honest enough to admit when they don't know things or to at least explain what they claim. You like many other religious seem to have a problem explaining your claims.

                An explanation is not: Meditation = God is Light.

                1. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Without even trying to meditate you have already decided what I am saying is wrong, no hope for such a person.Many connect with what I say you dont doesnt mean my claims are wrong.

                  1. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    lol Hold on enlightened one. Where did I say it was wrong? I said it wasn't an explanation. It seems if you are really a prophet, you should be able to clearly write and explain your ideas without saying, "go meditate". This is not an explanation.

                    1. mohitmisra profile image60
                      mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                      How many times have I said its a very personal experience, direct and not indirect knowledge, given you Buddhas and Jesus example as well haven't I ?

                      All the prophets and enlightened one have been mocked by some , I am not the first.

                      What explanation is there for the earth revolving around the sun.
                      That we need the sun to live, that we need the breath to live, that we die?

            2. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Am I talking to you?
              Sirdent knows perfectly well, what I'm talking about.
              I'm not mocking him.
              you get things wrong all the time ! lol

    36. skyfire profile image71
      skyfireposted 6 years ago

      big_smile

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        and by the way, I'm an enlightened one ranked 1# on Religion forums
        worship me !!
        lol

        1. skyfire profile image71
          skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          All hail Goddess tongue

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I will try to unite Religions !
            big_smile

            1. skyfire profile image71
              skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              lol

              Oh yeah  you need prophet goddess ? cool

              1. tantrum profile image61
                tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                i can do with a couple ! would you like ?
                tongue

                1. skyfire profile image71
                  skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  cool

    37. theirishobserver. profile image62
      theirishobserver.posted 6 years ago

      Unite that sounds real good smile

    38. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago

      I'm going for lunch
      Goddesses have to eat too, apart from men
      lol

      1. skyfire profile image71
        skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Please mercy on Pasta god. tongue

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      SirDentposted 6 years ago

      I am going to hunt my hip waders. It is getting deep in here.

      1. Cagsil profile image84
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        And, what do you think the non-believer say, when believers begin talking the bible? lol lol

        Just a thought? big_smile

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It takes intelligence to understand the wisdom in the Bible , appreciating the words of a prophet requires intelligence, its a deep connection.

          1. Cagsil profile image84
            Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            When I see one, I'll be sure and remember that. smile lol

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Cannot give you that intelligence it comes from within.

              1. Cagsil profile image84
                Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Didn't ask if you could, then again, I don't remember, ever asking you anything for that matter.

                So, this is what you do. Invade other people's lives for your own pleasure.

                Just in case, you hadn't notice. I have not said a word to you. Because, I choose not to talk to you, a mystic who is full of himself, so much so, he thinks he knows all.

                I didn't ask you anything. And, I rather you didn't talk to me in the first place, but I'm sure you'll come back some witty remark as usual.

                Either way, I don't care. Have a great whatever? smile

                1. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Be honest with yourself, I dont know I have never had any experience where god is concerned,try that path.

                  1. Cagsil profile image84
                    Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Man, you don't get it do you? Are you this sad on every day of your life?

                    You speak of "GOD" as something real. I am honest with myself. I am not pathetic enough or sad enough in my own faith of myself, to have to look to some psychotic entity that needs worship.

                    Boy are you gullible. Then again, I don't know why I bother with you in the first place. Don't worry, that will stop eventually too. smile

                    1. mohitmisra profile image60
                      mohitmisraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                      Again the rude language, too egoistical and not honest to admit you dont have any god knowledge.
                      This thread is proof of gods existence f you have any vision, people who are connected to god have joined in .Deborah, goldenpath and Sir Dent have that connection .

          2. Loves To Read profile image59
            Loves To Readposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You are so right about the fact that it takes intelligence to read and understand the Holy Bible.
            However the real understanding only comes as it did with the Prophets. when we choose a personal relationship with Christ Himself.
            The more we seek the more he reveals to us.
            Sadly something many will never understand.

            1. Jerami profile image79
              Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                 The mystery of understanding scripture is where to start our believing. What verses to establish our foundation upon before we believe something elss worthy to be the next truth to add to what we already have.

            2. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              It takes indoctrination and gullibility to believe any religious tome, as one needs to overlook all the neurosis and psychotic threatening words from "god"

              The bible is a pile! smile

    40. ThePhoneDetective profile image58
      ThePhoneDetectiveposted 6 years ago

      I know where I won't be going after death! To come back to this forum and posting the real answer!

      Daytona

      1. goldenpath profile image80
        goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Of all the posts on this thread this one is among the most genuine, sincere and real.

        Thanks.

        1. Cagsil profile image84
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Really? And, that means all the rest are not? smile I am sure all the other people/hubber will appreciate your insight. roll

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            it must be a Mormon point of view

    41. goldenpath profile image80
      goldenpathposted 6 years ago

      Look beyond your own noses.  I meant amidst the back and forth tongue lashing it was a genuine statement. 

      As far as being a Mormon point of view I stand by my faith regardless of the shackles presented by not only the world but the fatigued within cyberspace.  You would not have said it had I been an Episcopalian, Catholic, Buddhist or even a Wiccan.  This should give you pause into the stereotypes you build your own minds up with.  Mormon or not I have always been polite to you.  Show the same respect and leave specific religions out of it.  If you are truly that curious as to the specifics of my beliefs just ask.  You don't need to splash little cliches with the word "Mormon" attached to it.  The more you attack specific individuals the more you downgrade your own view in the eyes of others.

      Thanks again for your exchanges.

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        If on a thread you say :

        'Of all the posts on this thread this one is among the most genuine, sincere and real.'

        Where a lot of hubbers have been posting their genuine and sincere points of view, it's  obvious someone is going to say something about it.
        anyway, why do you get angry? you're belittling everybody, and I only made a joke.
        what's wrong with being a Mormon?
        where's the lack of respect ?
        Show it to me!
        I think it's only in your mind.

    42. alexandriaruthk profile image51
      alexandriaruthkposted 6 years ago

      do you know whats happening to the mind of a dying person, have you been dead yet?

    43. Cagsil profile image84
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago

      Hmmm.....? lol lol

    44. aware profile image71
      awareposted 6 years ago

      sure detailed ones to but there ideas not factual

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Are they based on ideas or facts?

    45. aware profile image71
      awareposted 6 years ago

      ohh and im not religious is that cool?

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Very ! cool

    46. aware profile image71
      awareposted 6 years ago

      after death  we first go for a ride in a ambulance to the morgue. then depending on the mode of disposal to the crematorium or funeral home . then you go to a place to be viewed . and cried over or spit on . you get the idea . after death we go places. difference tho is that we don't do the driving.

      1. Loves To Read profile image59
        Loves To Readposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You are right in what you believe happens to the mortal body after death. However God tells us in the Bible that the earthly body returns to where it came from. Ashes to ashes dust to dust but the soul lives on forever. We Christians don't care what happens to the flesh as long as we know our soul lives for eternity in the Heavenly realm with God

     
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