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Does Science and Religion create the perfect balance?

  1. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 6 years ago

    Do they create a perfect balance? If there was no science with religion, what would hold religion in check to make up whatever they wanted? The same with science, if there was no religion, who would keep science from making up whatever they wanted?

    1. goldenpath profile image81
      goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, they both complement each other.

    2. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No.

      Science exists without religion. They are not connected in any way.
      Religion already makes up whatever it wants in order to perpetuate the hoax of it's god concept.

      Science doesn't make things up. That's conjecture on your part.

      You can keep your question as a response. I'm not debating with you. You want to learn more, then read more. smile

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I think science has made things up before. Not as much as religion of course.

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          (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Science doesn't make things up, it is a method, not a person.

          However, even if scientists made up stuff, their nonsense would quickly get weeded out in the peer review process and of course, through experimentation.

          1. Misha profile image75
            Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Agree. "Quickly" might take a few years though. Or even more. But this is definitely no match to thousands of years on religion side. smile

          2. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
            Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            LOL Newton's third law of motion???? It is and has been incorrect for years...and years....and years...

            http://hubpages.com/hub/Newton_was_Wrong_Again

            1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
              Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The 'Scentific FACT' that the world was flat was believed for years and years and years...

              and there are many many more...

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                (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Please Mikel, you're really embarrassing yourself. I know you don't want to learn anything but if you continue in this vein, it really makes you look like a serious nutter.

                No offense.

                1. Misha profile image75
                  Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Wow! I went and took a look at the hub... Yeah Mikel, beginner level course in physics will not hurt for sure... smile

      2. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I think you are oversimplifying. Science does make things up, and quite a bit of them. It is being performed by imperfect humans, ya know. smile

    3. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Scientific method, and double blind studies as well as the fact that science works, whereas religion is just fear based tripe. smile

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      (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Not at all, they are diametrically opposed concepts.



      You mean religion doesn't make up whatever it wants? Since when?



      The scientific method and the peer review process, of course.

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      SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      If there was no God, science nor religion would exist. Neither would you and I exist. Science cannot explain God nor can it even detect God. Religion is man's way, for the most part, to reach an unreachable being.

      No man can come to God unless God draws him.

      1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
        Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Actually this is a 50/50 proposition at best...
        I do believe in the 50% that says God exists.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          No sweetie. This is a 50/infinity proposition. We already talked about this.

          50% - no god
          50% - possibility that one of the infinite number of other possible options is correct.

          You define it, I'll disprove it. wink

          1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
            Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            and we agreed you were wrong...

            1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
              Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              sweetie

              1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Ah, Lying. OK

                Like wot the god sed. lol

                1. marinealways24 profile image60
                  marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Don't disrespect God! You are just mad because you haven't met him.

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                    Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    And u dun?

                  2. Hokey profile image59
                    Hokeyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    .....and you have?

            2. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              So OK. Lying OK wiv god.

              K

              50%
              Vs Infinity. I 2 dsum 2 get it.K. I win.

              ciao

    6. pylos26 profile image76
      pylos26posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Don't know about balance...but no real Scientist makes up anything and most could care less about mythology ( except for intertainment). Scientist are the only tool mankind has to scratch for any kind of truth.

    7. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
      Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      A 'perfect' balance I would have to say no. But they are much like a right and left hand.(imho)

    8. Hokey profile image59
      Hokeyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.

      Is that better?

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    Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago

    umm, is that rhetorical?

    they are the same, lest one is masculine mystic, one feminine mystic. they are the same.

    their mother, consciousness (sin)
    their daddy, enigma (prophecy)

  3. Lita C. Malicdem profile image61
    Lita C. Malicdemposted 6 years ago

    Science and religion are in perfect balance, they are always in tangle with one another, what one says, the other does not. I don't know why. With this nature, yes, everything is put in the balance, a seesaw.

  4. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 6 years ago

    It must be time for another quote from the loving bible. smile

    Then Jehoiada the priest ordered the commanders who were in charge of the troops, "Take her out of the Temple, and kill anyone who tries to rescue her.  Do not kill her here in the Temple of the LORD."  So they seized her and led her out to the gate where horses enter the palace grounds, and they killed her there.   (2 Chronicles 23:14-15 NLT)

    Nasty!
    Oh that's right, the new religionists throw that part of the book away! lol

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      SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Who throws it out?

      1. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Well christians do for one example. smile

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          SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I am a christian and I haven't thrown out anything.

          1. earnestshub profile image87
            earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You would have no trouble with this quote then I guess?

              "Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked.  Show no mercy; have no pity!  Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.  But do not touch anyone with the mark.  Begin your task right here at the Temple."  So they began by killing the seventy leaders.  "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded.  "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill!  Go!"  So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."  (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

            What a psychopath! lol

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              SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              No I don't have a problem with that. I tell you something else I wouldn't have a problem with. If someone threatened my family I would waste them in a heartbeat.

              I came back to edit my post. Eze 9:9  Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
              Eze 9:10  And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.

              1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                We are well aware of your aggressive behavior Dent. You have made it perfectly clear you are here to judge and provoke.

                That be wot jeebus wants innit? What a disgusting religion. No wonder it has caused 2000 years of wars and hatred.

                Jesus would be proud of you for being so aggressive. I am sure it is what he would have wanted after all.

                Some one f*** with yo bitches? Waste 'em. Ezekiel 21.99

  5. defenestratethis profile image60
    defenestratethisposted 6 years ago

    " Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - ( Albert Einstein)

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I am not surprised that Albert said this.
      Apart from being a brilliant scientist he was also obviously stupid as mud.
      Famous clever people like Einstein are often borderline nut cases.
      Carl Jung speaks of such a man who, when it came to his own life, left his wife and kids to run off with an exotic dancer. smile

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I take it you don't understand the Einstein quote either? smile

        1. earnestshub profile image87
          earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Did he say that? And what do you make of it?

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, Earnest. Albert Einstein said that.

            But, the question is do you understand what he meant when he said it?

            Science without(requires) religion(ethics) is lame. True.

            If science doesn't have ethics, then it's dead in the water.

            Religion without science is blind. True.

            Religion claims to have answers, yet provides none, while science provides answers, truth.

            smile big_smile

            1. earnestshub profile image87
              earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I cannot make the connection between religion and ethics as Albert did. I see no connection between religion and  ethics. smile

              1. Cagsil profile image60
                Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Religion is a business based on a code of ethics, bound to a higher cause. The ethics is a moral standard...if you believe that. smile

                1. earnestshub profile image87
                  earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  OK now I'm with you. I do not use religion to find ethics. Ethics are logical.... to my mind anyway! smile
                  Here is an example. If I help others, hurt as few people as I can, that gives me more self worth, a better understanding of reality and the reward enjoying the truth of in the act itself.
                  I think ethics and good work are plain logic. smile

                  1. Cagsil profile image60
                    Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    But, religion was originally based on a moral conduct for how society was to behave, such as guide them.

                    Unfortunately, since it's inception, it's done more harm than good. lol

            2. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Yeah, I think you missed on your interpretation of the Einstein quote.

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            (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Here's a rather good explanation of that quote.

            http://richarddawkins.net/articles/123

      2. defenestratethis profile image60
        defenestratethisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I think that whenever we try to live by a strictly scientific and/or strictly religious code, we fail to evovle as a society, or on a more singular level, as human beings. Both the man who believes only in that which can be physically proven and the man who believes only in the doctrine of his church would be pompous enough to call Einstein " stupid as mud." To be successful in either world, one must first admit how little he knows, and secondly, how willing he is to learn the truth, despite the fact that uncovering the truth may shatter all former beliefs.  In other words, neither field will be benefited by ones own oppresive ego.

        1. earnestshub profile image87
          earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Nothing oppressive about recognising the weaknesses in idols. You seem to have about the same level of understanding as mud, so perhaps you relate too closely. religiosity is a lizard brain response to fear, anyone who wants to can work that out and locate the evidence of it. smile Unfortunately our dear Albert had the same spinal cord "add on" as the rest of us! lol

          1. defenestratethis profile image60
            defenestratethisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Im not pro religion..no, not at all. Just saying that both sides could do with a healthy dose of open-mindedness, and that theres a possibility to find a common ground. As for your dispariging remarks about my intellect and level of understanding..Ive heard worse. And weaknesses abound both in idols and long winded intellectuals.

            1. earnestshub profile image87
              earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Well my comment was direct, yours was not, you made the reference that bought on the remark. smile What you stated as pompous I see as just the truth. smile I did not appreciate being called pompous. smile

              1. defenestratethis profile image60
                defenestratethisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Understandable, but my remark was not meant to be personal, it was merely to demonstrate a point.  A party from either side, if rigid enough in their opinion, often bristles with antagonism if confonted with the opposing parties version of the truth. This  battle of wits between science and theology usually goes nowhere, and has been doing so for some time now, I believe. :-)

            2. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              So what are you going to defenestrate ?
              Religion or Science ?

              I choose to defenestrate you.
              You haven't add anything to this topic. Only worn out remarks.

              Boring !
              mad

              lol

        2. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Rubbish.

          When have we tried to "live by a strictly scientific.. code"?

          And who said that ethics need to be discarded along with a ridiculous belief in the invisible super being?

          In fact - who is suggesting we live by a strictly scientific code?

          I suggest we get rid of the religious garbage and replace it with a code of ethics we can actually live by instead of just paying lip service to, because no one really believes they are going to get judged when they die. lol

          1. aka-dj profile image80
            aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Whose code of ethics do you suggest?
            How many would agree? What if YOU don't agree?
            Just as big a "Utopic" idea as Heaven.

            1. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Oh - you mean everybody agrees with the code of ethics you guys stick to us? lol

              Taking children away from aboriginal families to indoctrinate them as Kristian? lol

              No killing? lol

              No abortions? lol

              No divorce? lol

              That is the funniest thing you have said dj. LOLOLOL Kristians follow the ethics laid down in the Biybel? lol lol

              LOLOLOL Very funny dj. LOLOLOLOL I am literally laughing out loud. LOLOL

              1. earnestshub profile image87
                earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Gob save me from biblical ethics! lol

                1. defenestratethis profile image60
                  defenestratethisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  And of course.."Lord save me from your followers."

              2. aka-dj profile image80
                aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                U haven't changed a BIT.

                I ask  questions.....u don't answer.

                I guess u don't know! sad

                Or, u don't have ethics u wish to share with all of us.

                1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                  Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  LOLOL dj - I know that lying is a big part of your "ethics" but - we both know you were not asking a Kwestion to have an answer. wink

                  You seem to think I am stupid. I have written about this before:

                  http://hubpages.com/hub/christians-on-hubpages

                  I have also linked and promoted an alternative approach to developing ethics without an invisible super being.

                  http://hubpages.com/hub/Rational-Code-Ethics

                  And there is a discussion here (which no one is interested in);

                  http://hubpages.com/hub/Rational-Code-o … Discussion

                  Stop by and see what the idea is.

                  I do not have a pre made list that you MUST obey, and will never do so because you do not really believe in the guy handing the list out. This is why we will need to develop our own when religion gets the boot.  wink

                  1. aka-dj profile image80
                    aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I am growing tired of u calling me a liar.
                    What little respect I have for u is just about drained out.

                    I can see how ignorant and arrogant u really are. I said this when I first met you, and nothing u have done has made me change my mind.

                    Hope your ethics encompass calling people all sorts of names.
                    Enjoy hmm hmm hmm hmm

    2. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Do you even understand what you posted? Just curious? smile

      1. defenestratethis profile image60
        defenestratethisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Obviously, you dont. :-)

  6. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Remember, WHY religion exists in the first place.

    It's foundation is formed by the belief that if humankind didn't answer to a higher authority, then there would be chaos.

    That is reaffirmed, when you look at society, as a whole.

    Just an interesting tid-bit.

    What many don't realize is that religion is destroying humankind and needs to be eradicated.

    Religion purposesly creates selfish people and separation of others. It is perpetuated under the cloak/shield of Jesus' works.

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I am in complete agreement with this statement. smile

  7. andromida profile image75
    andromidaposted 6 years ago

    To some extent you can say that science and religion create some kind of balance but not always.I think both are important from its own position and both needs to be well understood-only and only when we all can understand the purpose of religion and science then there would not be any question of balance-both are meant to be co-exist; for whom- for us only.thanks.

  8. HubChief profile image69
    HubChiefposted 6 years ago

    Religon originally was meant to create the guidelines for code of conduct in human society.

    The science came in to explain the phenomenon of nature and how can you use it for advantage of mankind..

    so I say that they are complimentary

    The evil faces of mankind have identified the destructive forces from either and have spoiled teh very objective of either. Still the unknown force keeps them in harmony and slowly shifting humans to their final destiny.

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
      Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Religion was actually started as 'The Government'. The men that wanted to rule had to have something that made them better than 'ordinary men'. One thing that accomplished that was violence, another was Religion/God. Being unquestionable because 'God Wills It' meant people would do anything for their leaders. So they made themselves into the 'hand of God' on earth. Religion is still being used this way today.

  9. pooja0908 profile image61
    pooja0908posted 6 years ago

    Yes but not all the time...

    Sometimes you feel that you should go through it and your religion says that it should not be. For example in all religion we are taught that it is sin to kill or harm anyone but there are so many science projects which needs animal or human life to do experiments.

    What will you say about it?

    People who are non vegetarian are they not religious?
    How can we balance both religion and science?

    Doctor says eating fish is advantageous for your health. Are they not living creature made by God?

    This was one example I have taken. There are so many like this.
    So who can balance both?

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
      Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Vegetarians are still killers, they just kill helpless plants that can't fight back at all.

    2. ShallyD profile image59
      ShallyDposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      @pooja0908
      mind blowing

  10. Hokey profile image59
    Hokeyposted 6 years ago

    Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Posting without reading is also blind. big_smile

  11. Mikel G Roberts profile image87
    Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years ago

    Q u i p p y

    http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling.gif

  12. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 6 years ago

    Why do so many people get upset when someone challenges science or claims that it has been made up before? Is this because they have faith in their scientific belief? Sounds kinda religious.

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      (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No, it's usually because the challenger hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.

  13. Hokey profile image59
    Hokeyposted 6 years ago

    Science can only determine what is, but not what shall be, and beyond its realm, value judgements remain indispensable. Religion, on the other hand, is concerned only with evaluating human thought and actions; it is not qualified to speak of real facts and the relationships between them.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Well, I disagree on religion. I think religion is more about "controlling thoughts" than evaluating them. I disagree on science as well, I think science constantly redefines what realm is.

  14. Elilah profile image61
    Elilahposted 6 years ago

    We must balance and blend the two.  Science and Religion.  Depends on how far one delves in and what their programmed ego considers correct or accepted upon.  Beyond it all is energy pure energy void of emotional or intellectual attachment.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I agree with that. It's when some make absolute claims to why or what created the energy that I disagree with.

    2. defenestratethis profile image60
      defenestratethisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Amen....oops, I mean Agreed.

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol

  15. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 6 years ago

    Not needed. Ethics can be best arrived at though logic. smile

  16. thirdmillenium profile image72
    thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago

    The more you delve into science, the more you are convinced that God created it all.

    Charles Darwin, in his last days, was convinced he had got it all wrong and was man enough to own up to his folly of propagating his revolutionary evolution theory. The scientific community kept its own counsel and was reluctant to acknowledge Darwin this time with the same enthusiasm it had displayed for the original theory. Perhaps it did feel defiant and did not want to appear foolish by saying yes to Darwin, no matter what he said.

    Another shining example of great minds not shying away from retracing their steps, thereby tarnishing their image was provided by the greatest physicist of our times. Stephen Hawking stunned the world recently by debunking his own original theory that light could not escape a black hole and contended that it could just do it.

    Be that as it may but, how did the atoms and molecules perceive the external agency gravity and its pulling everything down to the ground and "design" the human anatomy with mouth at a higher level at one end and the anus at a lower level at the other end facilitating the exit of excreta without any contortionist act involved?

    Cell division does not answer this either. Cells just latch on to the next cell and bond together to form whatever they form. How did the individual cell decide they had to form a liver or a pancreas? Had cells been that intelligent, why did the cells in lowly creatures stop at being in animals and did not evolve further and strive to become higher life? For, if atoms and molecules had been so intelligent, the cells which are a collection of atoms with their consequent collective wisdom should have worked overtime to achieve this.

    In deed, why do cells in cows and cats, even after witnessing the cells in man, the highest of all creations, want to remain trapped in a cow or a cat? Do not tell me they see what fine mess man got himself and them into with his 'intelligence' and had thought better of it! Come to think of it, it could well be the case!

    So some one had to act the catalyst. The smart question "Who Created God"  has no answer but that is just one of many million questions we do not have answer for!

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      lol  lol

      Kristians Kreating Konflikt.

      It is OK to lie for jeebus huh? 'Cause that is the message you are giving. Thank you for once again reminding me that Kristians have no moral or ethical standards.

      Defend Kristianity at all Kosts!!!!

      LOLOLOLOLOLOL

      1. thirdmillenium profile image72
        thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Mark, thank you but you haven't put forward any arguments to refute my thesis

      2. thirdmillenium profile image72
        thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        And, where is the lie, pray?
        Everything  I said about Darwin and gravity and cells bonding is true.

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          sneakorocksolidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It's not about any lies it's about you and your beliefs. The new chic is piling on Christians, it has nothing to with substance.smile

          1. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            It is all about substance. Read a history book or a newspaper. Come on man - educate yourself. It is not that hard. wink

            Kristians Kreating Konflikt

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              sneakorocksolidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Well believe it or not I know how to read and I do quite a bit of it. How about you go to church and find out what all the fuss is about. If you'd like I can find a church in your area that you can sit in on. We invite investigators to come anytime. You'll be surprised we don't discuss politics at all. We talk about bible lessons and our testaments. We also talk about service projects and families. Let me find one of churches in your area and go see for your self. I can arrange a home visit if you like.smile

              1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                LOLOLOLOL

                Find out what all the fuss is about? LOL

                You mean like centuries of serial child abuse in Ireland by teh clergy?

                Taking native American and Australian aboriginal children from their parents?

                Attacking scientific knowledge because it goes against certain religious doctrine and teaching this to children too young to think for themselves?

                How many rights fix the wrongs?

                Never really understood the "I will pretend X did not happen because Y happened as well," argument  other than as an irrational defense against an argument against an irrational religion.

                I am not interested in studying the bible with you or listening to you tell me how clever you are for choosing your particular flavor of religiosity.

                There is no shortage of religious institutions where I live. I suspect the churches per square mile are far greater here than in your neck of the woods.

                The Mosques are starting to outnumber them and the tension is rising between the two groups. We have had several religiosity riots lately and France now has laws against some Muslim clothing.

                Not that the newspapers are allowed to report them. wink

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  We're alittle different, our church is full of professionals. We have some of the most talented people in our community and these people still go out and roll up their sleeves work side by side with everyone else. Our doctrine says we are not allowed to critisize any other religion. Almost all of our youg men earn they're Eagle scout badge and our young women are always involved in community service. We have a huge missionary program and we send people all around the world. We never ask for donations everything we have is raised within our congregation. You should come for a visit it's always better when you're there.smile

                  1. Hokey profile image59
                    Hokeyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    "We're alittle different, our church is full of professionals."

                    The other christians are just peasants. Thanks for the prideful clarification.

                  2. Mark Knowles profile image60
                    Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Good for you.

                    So - you do not identify with the Kristian I was speaking to then? You are a different sort of Kristian. A genuine christian no less. All professionals huh? Interesting - do you have to take a test to get in?

                    Now - when I am knocking the other sort of Kristians - you know the ones - why do you feel the need to defend them?

                    I assume you feel that attacking science and teaching children that they will burn in hell if they do not believe is OK - seeing as you feel the need to defend those people. Why is that?

                    I have seen you attacking anyone that expresses a liberal opinion that is not in line with a religious/conservative Kristian opinion.

                    You even sent me a personal note telling me I should stop criticizing christians.

                    You have even started threads attacking "liberals" and homosexuality.

                    But this is OK because your church has professionals in it and you spend a lot of money sending people around the world in an effort to convert them to your religion. lol

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      (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No one that actually "delves" into science would ever come to that conclusion. Only faith believers who know very little or nothing at all about science would make such a statement.



      What's even worse are when believers make up stories to support their statements. Sad indeed when they are compelled to stoop down to the level of fabricating lies.



      I'm almost sure you have no idea what Hawking radiation is but are still compelled to fabricate another lie.



      Gibberish.



      You know nothing about evolution, either.

      1. thirdmillenium profile image72
        thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You can wake up one who is sleeping. Not one pretending to be asleep.

        Do some google search and it will be news to you about Charles Darwin and Stephen Hawking. You will be surprised but will still be adamant.

        That is alright, I assure you

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          (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I am not surprised whatsoever by your lack of understanding and fabrications. What's so sad is that your religion compels you to do such things.

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            thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            But I am surprised that you blindly refuse to at least do the research, sure in your false beliefs.

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              (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Uh, I don't need to do research into the fabrications of Christians, my friend. They are all to obvious and blatant and demonstrate an extreme aversion to reality.

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                thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Well, I rest my case, tired, really. God Bless you, my friend

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                  (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Yes, what you've accomplished is to fabricate stories of concepts for which you have little or no understanding. Had you attempted to actually made a case, you would have provided legitimate sources for your claims about Darwin, you would have demonstrated how Hawking debunked his theory and shown the math too, you would have had an actual understanding of evolution before spouting gibberish.

                  Instead, you simply dismissed it all and told me to go off and do the research myself.

                  Hence, you have only demonstrated intellectual dishonesty and fabrications of stories.

                  If you actually do believe in your god, you should believe that he will judge you harshly for doing such things.

                  And that, my friend, is the only case you've made.

                  1. marinealways24 profile image60
                    marinealways24posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    You are a science warrior aren't you? I think you follow religiously.

  17. Hokey profile image59
    Hokeyposted 6 years ago

    Four Catholic ladies are having coffee together. The first one tells her friends, "My son is a priest. When he walks into a room, everyone calls him 'Father'."

    The second Catholic woman chirps, "My son is a Bishop. Whenever he walks into a room, people say, 'Your Grace'."

    The third Catholic woman says smugly, "My son is a Cardinal. Whenever he walks into a room, people say, 'Your     ence'."

    The fourth Catholic woman sips her coffee in silence. The first three women give her this subtle "Well.....?"

    She replies, "My son is a gorgeous, 6'2", hard bodied         . When he walks into a room, people say, 'Oh my God...'."

  18. thirdmillenium profile image72
    thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago

    Mark, we are on completely different planes. You are talking about the people who say they practice religion but go against Christ's teaching. I am talking about Christianity as it is meant to be practiced.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      And being a christian in the "Way it is meant to be practiced,"  involves attacking scientific knowledge in what can only be described as an "intellectually dishonest" fashion, how exactly?

  19. thirdmillenium profile image72
    thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago

    And, mark, why this obsession with Capital K? Is it meant to be an insult? Just wondering, that's all. You can insult all you want.

    Or, is it patronizing?

    Either way it is fine by me.
    In fact, thank you

  20. Hokey profile image59
    Hokeyposted 6 years ago

    God is tired, worn out. So he speaks to St. Peter, "You know, I need a vacation. Got any suggestions where I should go?"

    St. Peter, thinking, nods his head, then says, "How about Jupiter? It's nice and warm there this time of the year."

    God shakes His head before saying, "No. Too much gravity. You know how that hurts my back."

    "Hmmm," St. Peter reflects. "Well, how about Mercury?"

    "No way!" God mutters, "It's way too hot for me there!"

    "I've got it," St. Peter says, his face lighting up. "How about going Down to Earth for your vacation?"

    Chuckling, God remarks, "Are you kidding? Two thousand years ago I went there, had an affair with some nice Jewish     , and they're STILL talking about it!"

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      sneakorocksolidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Great.

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        defenestratethisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What do you say to God if he sneezes?? Always wondered about that one.....

  21. Hokey profile image59
    Hokeyposted 6 years ago

    A middle aged woman has a heart attack and is taken to the hospital. While on the operating table she has a near-death experience. During that experience she sees God and asks if this is it. God says no and explains that she has another 30-40 years to live.

    Upon her recovery she decides to just stay in the hospital and have a face lift, liposuction, breast augmentation, and a tummy tuck. She even has someone come in and change her hair colour. She figures that since she's got another 30 or 40 years she might as well make the most of it.

    She walks out the hospital after the last operation and is killed by an ambulance speeding up to the hospital.

    She arrives in front of God again and asks, "I thought you said I had another 30-40 years?"

    God replies, "Sorry, I didn't recognize you."

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    sneakorocksolidposted 6 years ago

    This is a waste of time you know how I feel and you don't like it. Thats ok but I still love you and will pray you'll be inspired to come visit us.

  23. Skydweller profile image60
    Skydwellerposted 6 years ago

    Science and Religion go hand in hand... But religion has had its significance much before Science and thats a fact.

 
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