Been reading up on it and just wondered about protection. Like how do those who interact with them can be sure they're safe. I even watched a few vids of a woman on youtube- spiritree or something like that and she is well versed in the spirit realm- voodoo dolls, shadow people demons etc.
So I just wondered how does she stay safe and protected?
Apart from the issue that spirits and demons are complete b*****t - in China whenever there is something important happening, like New Year, Bride and groom entering or leaving the house, new baby arriving home, etc., etc., they let off firecrackers to frighten away the evil spirits, banish bad luck. Anyone who tells you they can talk to the spirits is either after your money, or attention seeking, or suffering from one of the many well documented mental illness types that hear voices or see visions. Protection is education.
How you doing today? How is back there, I have been away over four years now and making my first trip back this May. Any strange new rules I need to know
INTENTION is the only way i know of protecting myself, although i do use choice crystals and minerals too. when i first began meditating i would visualize a protective bubble around me. intention and visualization are very powerful as far as energetic protection. you have every right, when in contact with an entity, to insist they reveal who they are and their intentions. it is easy to recognize a negative entity as they are pushy and often sound negative...though once encountering one i do not know how to banish one other than, as deborah says, taking authority. realize you have the power over YOU and they do not. do not feed them with negative emotions and they will have no reason to bother you. theoretically.
well, if you believe in that sort of thing, the best way to protect your home is to avoid bringing any real old stuff into it that may carry bad vibes with it. also keep lots of crucifxes and bibles around.
Burning dried sage at all wdws and doorways, then taking the sage outside to smoke out unwanted spirits. In the southern states of America, many believe in sprinkling a line of brick dust at major doors ways. That is once a blessing and spiritual house cleaning with sage, has been performed and said.
As for my home, I like it interesting. I've never tried a thing.
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease !! Sa Toya , you obviously have had some attraction to the idea of spirits or whatever. But you are attracting a mental freak show of nonsense, bull***t and straight-forward made up rubbish on the spot. Please don't take advice from anyone who can't even spell the names of the crap she is selling, or someone who tells you treat voodoo with 'compassion'. If you need a spiritual side to yourself go to the professional quacks in your local church, at least they think they know what they are doing and they have a book.
Hating someone over their beliefs or religious practices, is not good advice either. Not saying that you personal said to hate. However, it was what I read out of your rant, was to hate voodoo. You do realize that without people, voodoo would not exist. So when you write words, that beckon aggressive disapproval to someone different than you (to hate in essence), is irresponsible, foolish nonsense. Foolish, foolish, foolish.
It is a common practice, in the eyes of people who appreciate the Buddhist lifestyle, to have compassion. Compassion for every living idea, living creature and human being.
So behind the realms of "voodoo"- is a person. I strongly advise people to have compassion for another human being.
I don't think I told anyone to hate anyone or anything - I gave my own opinion or advice to ignore jumbled nonsense, and treating voodo with compassion is jumbling words and concepts, babbling about black and white magic and spritualism within the same scope is pure fantasy. Behind the realms of voodoo is control of the naive and superstitious, not a person. And why you bring the respected and deeply thought out practice of Buddhism into your piece I still cannot work out. Buddhism certainly has nothing to do with magic or with voodoo.
On the subject of spirits/demons you have to remember one thing. Just like you and I have to obey the laws of physics, noncorpeal entities, whether they are demon or spirt, negative or positive, have to obey certain natural laws as well. Nothing can harm you or take control of your home without you allowing it to.
A lot of people choose a variety of methods for protecting themselves from harmful entitites, including exorcisms, burning sage as was suggested, or just getting together as a family and saying in one loud voice, "Leave and don't come back."
In regards to Magick, I have always gone by the philosophy that there is no "Black" or "White" magick, there is simply "magick".
Black, which many people take to be a negative form of magick, isn't fairly judged. Think about it. The blackest thing I can think of is the night sky and there is certainly nothing negative about clear evening full of stars.
The whitest light, however, comes from the fall out of a nuclear bomb. And as white as that is I sure as hell don't want to be near enough to see that light. So the concept of "Black" as evil and white as "good" is simply a storybook device in my mind.
All magick done with harmful intent comes back at the caster as does magick with positive and constructive intent. As a child I used magick irresbonsibly and I paid for it. When I did magick with the intent of making my school safer for myself and for the people I cared about, I had a positive experience and I enjoyed the final years of high school.
To china man, as for it being "BS", that is a matter of opinion. No one is placing a gun to your head and asking you to participate in this discussion, yet you seem to be compelled to debate the matter. If you're secure in your belief system no one holds that against you, but you do have an obligation to respect the belief systems of those here since you choose to count yourself among us.
Magic is just head fluff to do with controlling others in the same manner as any other claim of superior or 'different' powers. The only thing it does, like any magic trick, is to persuade the gullible that things are happening when the only place it is going on is in the imagination.
If this was a discussion between people like yourself I would have little interest in it and would not waste any time on it. But it isn't, the question was asked by a maybe naive young woman who could be swayed to believing your strange and less than innocent thinking.
And compelled or not I do not have to respect your views on this at all. In fact I would say the exact opposite, I have no respect for any 'belief' system that preys on the gullible, whether it is your BS or the BS of religion.
Your weird idea that black is not negative because there are bright stars in the sky makes no sense at all, and because the 'fall out' from a nuclear bomb is white then white may be negative - and then somehow this overcomes the whole discussion about good and evil. You are insulting anyones intelligence with such kiddie book drivel.
Ah yes, and of course you're being so generous with everyone's intelligence.
I guess at least you're being honest about your complete lack of respect for anyone who believes differently than you. Of course there is an old saying that when a rooster makes a lot of noise you know he's been in the hen house.
I'm just glad that people like you never actually amount to anything or to anyone. If it weren't for the miricle of the Internet I doubt you'd even have a very large social circle.
"Nothing can harm you or take control of your home without you allowing it to."
Nate, it has been known to happen though, hasn't it? Demons or spirits coming in without permission or allowance.
I think it happens more than we think. What makes you believe otherwise?
See I believe that there are somethings that can act as a portal for certain spirits. (Cremation ashes of a suicide victim for one.) Or that there are outlets for unwanted spirits to come into your life, without warning.
As for myself, I don't mind the extra company of spirits. I believe that is what keeps my home lively and interesting.
However, demons are an entirely different matter. What is your opinion?
As far demonic entities go, I've only either read or seen shows dealing with them. It's something I have a hard time forming an opinion on because as a paranormal investigator, if I don't have a personal experience or some kind of hard evidence to back it up, my mind immediately searches for the down-to-earth explanation for what could have happened.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen or that I don't believe they do happen. But I''m also not experienced enough with them to make an educated opinion. Any other opinion would be based purely on what's been presented to me and I pretty much stand by my belief that even a demon has limits and can only hurt us on our own realm as long as we allow it to.
As for unwanted spirits, yes, I agree that there are ways they can come into your life. I speak of spirits seperately from demons, because unlike demons, spirits were typically human at one point.
If a person passes away and that person had a strong connection to your home then certainly it's possible for them to remain there. Or, as is the case with some people who are irresponsible, if you were to use something like a Ouija board, the spirit (or demon in some cases) may be drawn to you or your home, making you, or the user, the catalyst.
Spirit interactions are very rarely harmful, except to a person who doesn't expect to feel a touch on the skin, or hear footsteps. And for the most part, even in the cases of intelligent entities, the spirit has no intention of harming you, they just want you to know they're there.
"As for unwanted spirits, yes, I agree that there are ways they can come into your life. I speak of spirits seperately from demons, because unlike demons, spirits were typically human at one point."
I could not agree more.
I pretty much feel the same as you do. However, I feel that demons are a powerful entity. They are capable of going anywhere they please, once inside you or in an area. For me, they are fallen angels, the likes of Arch angels Michael and Gabriel. Now that my belief only. Many other people believe entirely different stuff.
I just found your opinion, quite interesting. Thank you for sharing.
I wish I could stay as so much is going on. I had a problem and a friend said prayers lit a candle and prayed blessing into each room and dorrway of my house. Later my daughter had a problem and she did the same for her. She does not practice Voodoo, although any spiritual connection with God, whether through spirits, angels, saints or Jesus, it works. God is listening, people just have different ways of getting their message to him. It's like us, phone, e-mail, IM, PM,even snail mail. Just depends how fast you want your message to get through, and whether you care if anyone else hears it or not. (By problem, I never knew if they were ghosts, demons, spirits whatever)
I don't worry about demons and spirits. I've had someone suggest I'm following after their doctrines because I question some Christian orthodox doctrine published on hubpages. So much that is said about demons is much superstitious mumbo jumbo from American preachers on TV. Familly line curses and all that nonsense too. Show me a scripture.
He that is in me is greater than he that is in the world. That's all the protection I need.
As far as protection, in a manner similar to the situation in Exodus 12, I have before applied oil to symbolize the Lamb's Blood upon the doorposts of my house and a family member's house. I understand that a ritual will do nothing in itself, but when added to prayer to the Lord, it's effective I believe.
To be honest Beelzedad, I can't say that I hear Jesus talking to me either - or at least it's a really rare event. I simply get a sense of peace if something is right and a strong unease if something is wrong. Sorry if this sounds waffley and meta-physical, but it's my experience.
I just read the bible and then choose to believe what it says. This may seem rather niaive but I've been aound enough people in 25 and their lfe experiences to know there is a true foundation to all this.
1. darkness preys only on those who who are not IN the light fully, that is understanding their rightness/righteousness but living in sin consciousness. This is where ALL the troubles come upon people. 2. actual prayer, not the ritualistic modal prayers connect one fully to the Righteousness, removing all consciousness of sin and death -ALL, not some, not just enough, not a lil bit at a time -all at once.
If you are 'hunting' for darkness in the cupboards, my advice would be: leave your church, burn your bible and take a long trip into the Fullness of All.
Being ignorant of something does not default to believing in it. If you choose to believe in nonsense, that's fine. I choose reality over myths, because myths are human constructs, meant to scare, confuse, entertain, etc.
its only flippant and foolish, pointless and unconnected if you take yourself to seriously - anyway your argument is entirely based on your belief, you cannot present evidence that they do or do not exist, you only have your belief just like everyone else and that is good - I admire that - but you don't have to be nasty just because I added a comment you do not wish to think about..anyway have a nice day.
Where does evil come from? Could it be possible that men are evil? Maybe only certain ones are evil. Maybe no one is evil. Where does greed come from? Who started it? Who started hate, jealousy, pride, lying, murder, violence?
Lots of unclean spirits in the world for there not to be any devils.
Just because you can't find an origin to a trait doesn't mean you have to create demons to explain the trait. And just because you asked all those questions doesn't mean you are actually looking for the truth. All you want everyone to do is embrace ignorance and superstition.
It is also my opinion that Bigfoot does not exist. And just because there is evil in the world, there is still no evidence that bigfoot exists...or Leprechauns, or Unicorns. Do you see where I'm going? Why are you presupposing that a devil has to exist for there to be evil in the world? You are under a spell. That spell is the conditioning you and I received from birth about this myth that has nothing to do with reality. There is no devil outside of your mind!
It's superstition. Just like your religion. I know so much about it, because my background is in the Pentecostal church. I have witnessed some of the most bizarre nonsensical beliefs, that have no veracity at all. I use my head, and so should you, but you are too afraid of the unknown. This is foolishness.
I have spent most of my Christian life in the Pentecostal church too, and yes I have also seen some bizarre non-sensical beliefs. However, I may be wrong in this, but you seem to be thrwoing out the baby with the bathwater
Those traits could be in everyone and it would be some event that could trigger any one of them in us to act on them. We don't need spirits or devils to explain that, just the right set of circumstances.
Those traits are in all of us. The natural man is carnal and selfish. It's only when we look at ourselves do we see it. Goodness, kindness and mercy do not come naturally to us at all.
Only last week I experienced pride and arogance risining through me as I returned to work on the Monday morning. England had given Wales a hammering in the Six Nations and I just had to let it out to the natives.
I think we are the same. I believe you are a good person who like anyone else could be swayed to take on any one of those traits by some circumstance. The fact that you are a good person is what stops you from taking action on those traits.
Ok, I get that Tantrum. I do actually. But it isn't to make one believe or not believe they are real. Ones demons or devils are their fears personified as such and need to be dealt with and the logical explanation here is that those who practice protect themselves with what they believe.
For instance one might believe that a gun is their protection from evil that might lurk in dark corners of the night. It is their talisman much like a rabbit's foot. Through the centuries this has been a common occurrence and while some will hold Jesus in their heart as their talisman others will perform rituals of burning sage etc. It all comes down to what you believe will help stave off your fear of that unknown entity.
I think the best way to protect your home from evil spirits is not to have anything to do with them in the first place. Seances, ouija boards and suchlike are inviting spirits to be with you and you have no way of really knowing what you are dealing with.
Voodoo is not witchcraft. It is an ancient ritualistic form of African religion brought to different parts of the world by the slave trade. If You were to research it you would find that it has many similarities to the Catholic religion. Just because one practices in a different manner than you their faith does not make them a practitioner of witchcraft.
Catholics worship God -voodoo is satanic-quite disparate beliefs and practises.I am well read and have researched deeply on both subjects. Your suggestion that voodoo is similiar to Catholicism is grossly misguided.
Obviously you are not as well read as you think. There are saints in both religions etc. Voodoo is not a satanic worship. There are those that do practice it to do harm but in general it is just another form of religion that gets persecuted.
No matter whether you call him God, Allah, or Beetlejuice you are still observing one man. The Native Americans had many names for him does that mean because they don't call him God as you do they are practicing witchcraft? No it freaking doesn't. Just because someone uses a certain talisman during their meditative ceremony and doesn't call Him God doesn't mean they are worshiping Satan.
This is the kind of nonsensical crap that drives me insane. People want to label everyone who doesn't do it their way as a witch, a devil worshiper, in league with the devil or whatever when it just isn't true.
Ok I'm done. I'm backing out of the religion threads again because it is just too all or nothing. You either believe the way I do or not is what you are telling me and if I don't believe the way you do and see the beauty and mysticism in other cultures and their ceremonies I am the misguided one. Really? Seriously? I really pity you and your closed mind.
The God I know is not ONE MAN - it is everyone and everything all together, through the dimensions, through the parallel worlds, through all of the layers of the heavens - we are all separated fragments of one unit of consciousness that exists in all things. That ONE UNIFIED unit of consciousness - that to me is Source, PRIME CREATOR, GOD, if you wish.
the reasons christians label everyone who disagrees with them as devil worshipers is because in our religion they are. The bible says that there is only 2 choices. With God and against him. No matter what you call your faith or belief. If you don't believe in our God than to us you are with Satan. This doesn't mean that you worship him specifically.
To answer your question - yes, your home CAN be protected from evil and malicious spirits, entities and energy. Do all of the things that make you feel as though you are doing something good for yourself, until you feel satisfied. What anyone else says doesn't matter. What matters is how you feel in your own home. And, what matters is how you will make yourself feel safe, comfortable and secure in your own space. Do it to it!
There is always more to be said about good and evil, more and more and more and more! GAAAAAH!
I forget where I heard it but it was said: "Evil is made by mankind and has to be banished by mankind, its source. Good is a natural phenomenon arising out of all of the world, replenishing and refreshing, like water." I, myself, believe that both evil and good are labels, constructs (like the devil and gods) created by and utilized to help people manipulate other people.
And yet, when you don't label things with words like good and evil, you are made aware that there are many things and happenings that defy explanation. If we are primitive-minded, we make a religion out of what we can't explain and understand and try to manipulate others with our "religious thoughts". Pointless, really.
We don't and can't know everything - might as well enjoy it!
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