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Skepticism cannot create a system for life

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    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

    Hi friends

    Skepticism cannot create a system for life; it is for this that Atheists have existed though yet they could never establish rule or goverment in any part of the World to set an example for others. If they did , they failed miserably; they were so cruel that they did not own it afterwards. I think you agree with me. Don't you?

    Thanks

    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I respect your beliefs and I am not Atheist nor am I of the Christian faith.
      But what about the radical, fanatical, cruel Muslims?

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi friend  Deborah Sexton

        They simply should not be  radical, fanatical or cruel Muslims. Their concepts and beliefs are wrong but they don't understand. They are only political and hence they are being dealt with by the World politically.

        I don't mind if somebody is an Atheist or a Christian; if they stick to reason , rationality and logical arguments which are essence or spirit of humanity. If the Atheists resort to derision and ridiculing , I understand that they are weak in the arguments hence they have resorted to derision.

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

    2. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol
      Nobody's going to agree with you.
      And where did you leave your 'peace'?
      Or is it a 'piece'? Of ....  hmm

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi friend tantrum

        I don't mind; all human being don't have necessaritly to agree with one another. Absolutely no compulsion. Having different opinions with reasons, is the beauty of human beings and that is how man has progressed. If one cannot give a reason or is not honest in differing that is against humanity. Please don't mind

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

    3. Hokey profile image61
      Hokeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Nope! big_smile You make absolutely no sense! smile

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi friend Hokey

        Nevermind. Enjoy your life. May be sometimes you may see in sense what I say.

        Please state the point which does not appeal to the sense.

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmaid peaceful Muslim

    4. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      A ridiculous thought process and isn't back by anything but conjecture. hmm So, no I don't agree. wink

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi friend Cagsil

        You have not given any reason of not agreeing to me. I think you are only a routinist having no originality of your own; you are just following others believing in Atheism meme.

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          That was your first mistake. Assuming you know anything about me in the first place. As for those who are atheists is up to them.

          I don't need to have a belief or even form a belief in your mythic word of the "creator". I've walked the walk of religion and obviously you haven't.

          Until you do, then don't assume you know me at all. If you should decide to take the walk down religion's true path, then you would have learned there is NO CREATOR and never has been.

          Therefore, I've come to the conclusion you know nothing about your own religion, never mind, talking about what others supposedly belief or think.

          Have a great day! smile

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      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this



      i think healthy skepticism is good. essential, even. i think that is what drives Man's desire to understand his world, and the Universe.

      religion can be cruel too. you're familiar with The Crusades, right?

      1. Hokey profile image61
        Hokeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        and the inquisition?

    6. Antecessor profile image81
      Antecessorposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What about The Peoples Republic of China, thats a country run by atheists. Their governement officials literally have to renounce all religous beliefs to be employed by The Party. I think China is quite successful dont you?

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi friend Antecessor

        What about Communist Russia?

        They managed their country so cruelly that the Atheists don't own it now.

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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    china manposted 7 years ago

    Welcome peaceful Muslim !   No I do not agree.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi frind china man

      Thaks for welcoming me. Not necessary to agree with me. You have not mentioned as to why you don't agree with me and on what specific point with your reasons and arguments. Please give the same.

      Thanks

    2. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Me neither

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Watch how peaceful this muslim remains, and who he is "peaceful" with.
        Been through this before with this fugitive from the thought police! lol

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Well, to be honest, it's all very well bandying about words like "skepticism" without explaining what you (the OP) mean by them. I mean, strictly speaking there are no skeptics. Because in Western academic philosophical tradition a "skeptic", strictly speaking, will challenge that you even know you yourself are sitting in front of a computer screen, technically.

          I raised this elsewhere yesterday... just because you're a skeptic about, say, Bible-derived religious ideas (like those of Islam, for example), does not mean you have to be a skeptic about concepts such as justice, fairness, compassion, decency, etc.

  3. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Really ? says who ? hit-n-run thread creator islamic ?

    How much islamic research foundation pays you for preaching and attacking atheists/other religions ?


    I just love these brainwashing type of posts, is there any brainwashing channel on youtube ?

    khuda hafis,
    skyfire

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi friend skyfire

      I am not paid anything. I agree that my brain has been washed from doubts that is why I talk with reason, rationality and logical arguments given in the Word from the Creator- God Allah YHWH.  The Athiest as they themselves name them sometimes as "Skepticals" are in doubt and confusion; so they resort to derision and ridiculing. Is it not so ?

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

      1. skyfire profile image71
        skyfireposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'm surprised that you decided to stay in the thread this time.Besides if atheists are into ridiculing and derision, why theists especially islamic and Christians wrote in their holy book about punishment to non-believers ? fear ? protection to belief ? as if creator cares for his creation who prefer not to believe in his existence.I see who started this rational game of ridiculing each other. 

        Besides rational way will never justify any human book as word of god cause there is no reason for any creator to send his words to his creations.isn't it ?

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hi friend skyfire

          There are two ways of ascertaining truth; one is understanding from the nature created by the Creator- God Allah YHWH and the other is from the Word revealed by the Creator; both are the same as they are from the same source. Those who study nature or Work of the Creator; they study the book or the system in nature created by the Creator. Those who study Word from the Creator; they also study the system from His Word.

          There is no contradiction in Work and the Word of the Creator if understood correctly. There is no skepticism involved; only reflection ,studying and believing with reason, the essence of humanity.

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  4. alexandriaruthk profile image50
    alexandriaruthkposted 7 years ago

    skeptics are skeptics, the power of the mind to question everything and anything is good, who needs order, is that what you mean, system? is there a system really, or is it just a high falutin word?

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi friend alexandriaruthk

      Every human being asks questions; and other human beings who know give  answers; it is not specific with Atheisist. Atheists ask question with confusion and doubt; other ask question without confusion and doubt.

      If there would have been no order; there would have been only chaos and there would have been no priciples and laws. The existense of priciples and laws establish that there is order and system in the Universe.

      I think now you would have understood it. Have you?

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

      1. alexandriaruthk profile image50
        alexandriaruthkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        order is order to a certain point in time, laws are changing because of questions and because of skepticism, the power to question everything brings a new order and law, 

        physical laws, moral laws, societal laws, or all of it - is that the order we are talking about here

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hi friend

          A new order is also an order. The priciple ascertained or discovered was already there but misunderstood; only the wrong concept has been re-ordered; it existed already in the nature created by the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

          1. Mark Knowles profile image61
            Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            But this person God Allah YWHY does not actually exist. sad

            Or do you have some rational proof of this invisible person?

            I am a Peaceful Reasonable Atheist, but I will Make Fun of You if You Make Assertions like these Without Backing Them Up With Evidence.

            RAmen

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          "physical laws, moral laws, societal laws, or all of it - is that the order we are talking about here"

          Hi friend

          We are discussing the whole life ,still life and the human life. Still life concerns the physical bodies. When still life evolved to botanical, animal, human life; as per the commandment of the Designer Creator; different properties were exhibited by this change. In human beigns the consciousness of different type generated; which is termd as soul or power or spirited. Human beings are therefore governed by additional laws called Ethical or Moral or Spiritual laws; and that is understandable. Is it not easy to understand?

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  5. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Cause they assume things and then build stories around that question and only get answers that satisfies the theory around that question.


    Atheist: How universe is formed ?
    Theist: who created universe ?

    see, theist assumes that god exist or even think that there is personality behind every creation which is pure assumption and leads to answers which are in favor of assumption and pleases deluded mind.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi friend skyfire

      Athiests: how Universe is formed?
      Theists: how Universe is formed?

      Atheists:how Universe is created?
      Theists: how Universe is created?

      What is the difference there? They convey the same meaning or phenomenon with different words. That is all

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

      1. skyfire profile image71
        skyfireposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You don't read my post do you ?

        No,they don't convey same meaning when we write "who created the universe" which theists often ask. Just because theist and atheist asks same question" how Universe is formed?" doesn't mean theist will satisfy with rational answer for it.Theist resort to answer that pleases his loneliness in this universe, that means he want creator to exist in the universe. This is what made you uncomfortable when atheists say "we humans are without any universal creator" and this tempts likes of you to attack atheists with this type of thread,by preaching islam and discarding skepticism.

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          "This is what made you uncomfortable"

          Hi friend skyfire

          I am quite comfortable. You and all other Atheists may bring out your reasons in confusions and doubts. I don't mind. I will explain peacefully and comfortably.

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  6. thisisoli profile image56
    thisisoliposted 7 years ago

    I always back my athiest claims with logic reason and rationality.  Religion on the other hand has no founding rationality, reason or logic.

    1. Rafini profile image86
      Rafiniposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I disagree. 
      Religion has rationality, reason & logic. 
      Faith does not. 
      Faith is to believe the rationality, reason & logic presented through the Bible within the system of Church.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image61
        Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You need to look up the words rationality, reason and logic. An invisible super being with a set of instructions in Arabic 1500 years ago?

        lol lol lol

        1. Rafini profile image86
          Rafiniposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          you may not agree with the format, but it's there.

          BTW  - I accept that my Faith has no rationality, reason or logic.  It just is.  Just like many athiests believe the world was created by an accidental "big bang".

          1. Mark Knowles profile image61
            Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Rubbish. There is no rationality, reason or logic there whatsoever.


            LOLOLOL

            Really? Many atheists believe this? Many theists believe this as well. So therefore your ridiculous beliefs are OK because other people have beliefs? Not really understanding your argument. Oddly enough - it lacks rationality, reason and logic.

            So - because you do not understand any science - you think people only believe anything by faith alone? Which is actually the same only different than reason?

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              paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              "because you do not understand any science"

              Hi friend

              Science is not a function of Atheists. It is common to everybody; the Religion or No-Religion. It has evolved in a natural way as designed by the Creator- God Allah YHWH. Every faith or no-faith has contributed to it. The Atheists assume that there is a system working in nature; that is why they want to explore it; otherwise there would be no science. If this assumption is correct; why not assume that the creator exists?

              Thanks

              I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

              1. Mark Knowles profile image61
                Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                System? What means this wurd?

                Ass-umption of an invisible creator? Why not ass-ume this?

                Easy answer - you.

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              paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              "Rubbish" "ridiculous"

              Hi friend Mark Knowles

              I think you were finished with your reasons and logical arguments; that propmpted you hiding behind those words "Rubbish" and "ridiculous".

              Please don't hide behind such words. We expect soft and meaningful words from you.

              Thanks

              I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

            3. Rafini profile image86
              Rafiniposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I'm sorry, but I see no rationality, reason or logic to an accidental 'big bang' which would lead to the sudden and unexplained process of evolution.

              I think my beliefs are more believable than your beliefs - and I'm sure you feel your beliefs are more believable than mine. 

              These facts remain:  I believe in God.  You believe in Charles Darwin. 

              I put my faith in Christ.  You put your faith in the first ape to 'evolve' into some kind of human form.

              I learn from the Bible.  You learn from speculation.

              To me, your sad situation is more laughable, yet I understand your faith is based on the Fear of not being in Control of your life, whereas  my faith gives me Control over my life.

              1. Mark Knowles profile image61
                Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                LOL I believe in no one.  I don't believe in god and I certainly will argue that Yours doesn't exist. Learn? lol
                I pity you. sad

                1. Rafini profile image86
                  Rafiniposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You just don't get it, do you?  It doesn't matter if you believe in God or not.  "Whatever will be, will be". 
                  I could pity you, too.  But I don't, because you made your choice and I made mine.  Its as simple as that.  Nobody can change your mind (except you, if you choose) and nobody can change my mind (except me if I choose)

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image61
                    Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    No. I genuinely pity you. You are sad and pathetic. I suspect you never had the chance at a decent education and that is sad.

                    Too bad - religion is the easy answer though. I am sure your invisible friend is watching out for you. wink

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            Twenty One Daysposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Faith-Grace-Peace are beyond logic/reason (consciousness), which is why it cannot be fully accepted, explained or understood.
            To accept such would admit logic is finite, self-ism futile and no one human smarter/more intelligent than another.

            Oddly, the application (awareness) of faith-grace-peace interacts within logic/reason to express creativity, experience, sensation, etc (the optic or objective view).

            1. Mark Knowles profile image61
              Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Sadly - this argument boils down to:

              "I want to make a statement that has no basis in reality that I cannot support using anything other than faith, but I am fed up with people pointing out this fact, so I think I will say that I have access to esoteric knowledge that they do not, and would never be able to comprehend even if they did.

              Please give me money."

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                Twenty One Daysposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                actually, Mark, that is not an argument, only an observation.
                glad to see you still do not know the difference, yet. But you will. Everyone will at some point.

                Would give you money, but then you would spent it and need more. jejeje.

                BTW -how you feeling?

                1. Mark Knowles profile image61
                  Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Seems like an argument to me.

                  Feeling good. Took a tumble on my bike at the weekend, but the bramble scratches are clearing up nicely.

                  I love the scenery here, but it is pretty hilly and I am a tad overweight from quiting smoking recently. big_smile

                  Oh well.......

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                    Twenty One Daysposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    same happened to my buddy nick. He quit smoking and gained 30lbs. Why i vowed never to quit. LOL. Besides, whiskey and tobacco are great flavors together.

                    { oops, am hijacking the thread }

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              paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              “Faith ,Grace, Peace”

              Hi friend Twenty One Days

              “Faith ,Grace, Peace” are the same type of words as "Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists, Skeptics" odd words only depicting their doubts and confusion.

              I think you agree with me.

              Thanks

              I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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                Twenty One Daysposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                you think i do, is the problem. lol

  7. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    again biggest assumption without evidence that god created universe and actually exist.You don't seem to understand my post do you ?



    First you assume god exist then hammer up with another assumptions, nice in fact advertising world prefers this type of brainwashing.


    assumption 1 from you is god exist then assuming that there is no contradiction. ever heard of word "evidence" ?


    really ? i wonder how you type on keyboard if there was no skepticism.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      "again biggest assumption without evidence that god created universe and actually exist."

      Hi friend skyfire

      It is the same type of assumption as you assume that you exist or the universe exists or your great grand parents existed. First you assume all these things and then you get set on probing it in confusion. Is it OK for you? Please explain. I don't think you won't explain.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  8. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Assumption again. Ever heard of word "proof" before making such sweeping statements like brother micah ?

  9. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Try and disapprove big-bang if you think it's irrational.

  10. Daniel Carter profile image91
    Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago

    I believe that skepticism is what has allowed mankind to progress in many cases. For example, 100 years ago a theory that contagious diseases existed because of "bad air." The theory was in order to not catch many contagious diseases, one had to stay out of "bad air." But there were those who were skeptical and found that transference of bacteria and viruses is the cause of contagion.

    The same is true with religion. In order to find truth and separate it out from superstition and false beliefs, one must be skeptical and question his/her own beliefs in order to arrive at truth. I don't think that one has to be skeptical of the same things their whole life through. But skepticism is healthy in deriving truth.

    When you have sufficient answers of truth for yourself, there comes naturally a state of peace.

    I don't think skepticism in and of itself it bad. I believe it has its place, just as dark has a place with light. We could not appreciate one without the other.

  11. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Typical islamic way of approaching debate. I like it, brings back some memories.

    My existence can be easily proved scientifically, now can you proceed to your proof of creator ? burden of proof is on you when you claim that your creator exist.


    I don't assume my existence, you are replying to living human not some imaginary universal creator. care to explain where is my assumption for my own existence.


    circular logic is trait of islamic preachers and that teaches me how to discard such shifting of "burden of proof". make a note of it.

  12. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    You don't understand do you ? Why you created thread to preach islam by discarding skepticism ? isn;t this your uncomfortable feeling against skepticism ? That too out of no evidence for your own claim indeed shows uncomfort.

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      Twenty One Daysposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      get `em skyfire.

  13. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    There is no penalty for assumption. But it gets into the area of delusion when people assume some imaginary friend exist and then they start relating it with their life and universe. If you assume something then present a theory+evidence to back it up before you claim something like "When still life evolved to botanical, animal, human life; as per the commandment of the Designer Creator".Without evidence this is Utter crap assumption isn't it ?

    Besides that,WTF proves commandment of designer ? book written by god ?

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      “Delusion, imaginary, Utter crap”

      Hi friend skyfire

      Please don't hide behind such words “Delusion, imaginary, Utter crap”. Please be ethical and use soft words with good reasons.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Mislim

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    lol

    "soft and meaningful"??

    Expect away!

    Not likely to happen with Mark!


    But then....somewhere someone (was it you paarsurrey?) said something about Muslim believing certain people were animals??

    In which case, you've got the perfect religion for Mark, since he said he's an animal.

    1. skyfire profile image71
      skyfireposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Brenda, Vatican disapproves evolution ?

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      Twenty One Daysposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The Goat Star concept?! lol
      I had forgotten all about that.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi friend Brenda Durham

      If Mark said he is an animal; then that is why he did not get evolved to a human being; he must have devolved to animal. Animals don't speak except only a "voice" without mentioning any reason.

      But I think Mark is only pretending behind the word "animal". If he used good and soft words, he could join the human beings; no compulsion however.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        LOL

        Sorry, but I'm totally crackin' up here!

        teehee

        Mark, is that you???

        1. srwnson profile image60
          srwnsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Brenda, are you agreeing with Ahmadi because of his faith or because of his, perhaps unintentional, insults to an Athiest?

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            paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Hi friend srwnson

            I don't have any blind faith in anybody;my faiths is based on reason, rationality and Word from the Creator. Most of the Atheists here have blind faith in un-necessary skepticism; that is why they always hide behind foul words.

            I don't insult anybody personally.

            Thanks

            I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

            1. srwnson profile image60
              srwnsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hi friend Ahmadi

              I didn’t say your faith was blind, actually you seem knowledgeable about your faith and that is admirable.

              My question was directed at Brenda. Christians and Muslims are often at odds with each other.

              All of us have reason to believe the way we do, including atheist. I am a Christian, I don’t explain it nor I feel the need to defend that decision.

              Thanks

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            Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I wasn't agreeing with him at all!
            The Muslim "Allah" isn't God.

            I was simply laughing at the hilarious repetition in paarsurrey's posts and the funny other parts of his post AND it occurred to me that possibly he's one and the same as Mark....
            Not accusing; just found it hilarious and quite coincidental.

            Seriously, who talks like that??

            1. srwnson profile image60
              srwnsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I see your point.

            2. Hokey profile image61
              Hokeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              To them Allah is as much God as Jesus to is to you.

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              paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hi friend brenda

              You don't have to agree with me necessarily. I don't mind.

              Thanks

              I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

            4. thisisoli profile image56
              thisisoliposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              The Muslim God is the same as the Christian God, it is only the prophets which differ the religions.

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                paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Hi friend thisisoli

                I agree with you.

                Thanks

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hi friend Brenda Durham

          I don't think Mark will ever come to reason; if he comes here you would see he would speak still more foul words; he is perhaps accustomed to hiding behind bad words. Of course if he has joined the human beings speaking of reason; then he is welcome.

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  15. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Who hides behind words? they're just to make a point. Man, are you afraid of words ?

  16. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    I just love trolls who hide behind this fox skin of Mr wanna-be goody goody.

  17. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    Wake up Brenda! Those of us who have been here longer know who this is. It certainly is not Mark.
    Why do you keep thinking every sock puppet is Mark?

    1. Hokey profile image61
      Hokeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Maybe it's love.

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Could be hate too, you know love and hate. Some people love to hate! smile

    2. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's called 'paranoia'. lol

  18. luvpassion profile image60
    luvpassionposted 7 years ago

    Seems there's alot of tension in these religous thereds. HI I'm Teri

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi friend luvpassion

      There is no tension; we are just discussing things to find out the Truth. You may express your opinion freely.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

      1. luvpassion profile image60
        luvpassionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        "Skepticism cannot create a system for life; it is for this that Atheists have existed though yet they could never establish rule or goverment in any part of the World to set an example for others. If they did , they failed miserably; they were so cruel that they did not own it afterwards. I think you agree with me. Don't you?"

        Your words Mr. Ahmadi, this statement does not aree with your reply to me about seeking truth. To find the truth one should not write a statement or belief and then ask for agreement. To seek truth we must ask and be open to opinion...don’t you agree? Just my opinion,.

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hi friend luvpassion

          I respect you; that is why we are discussing things to find the Truth.

          Thanks

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hi friend luvpassion

          I agree with your above words.

          Thanks

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            crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Then why do you not practice what you preach?

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              paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hi friend crmhaske

              First of all; I don't preach; I only express what I believe and I am conviced with to be Truthful. Then I am open rather all ears for others to express themselves. I think it is a positive and rational approach.

              Thanks

              I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

    Hi friends

    "Skepticism cannot create a system for life"

    They can only confuse the issues;might be it is in the phsyche they cannot resist. They should become positive in their approach to life.

    Thanks

    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

    Skepticism cannot create a system for life.

    Did they?

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      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes. It is called secular humanism. And on balance it has done quite nicely, thank you; probably, on balance, better than Islam

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        DevLinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No converting of others, no selling of blind faith, just humans getting along. not many wars start that way.

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        What is of a sytem in Secular Humanism?

        Thanks

 
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