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Westboro Baptist Church

  1. pisean282311 profile image57
    pisean282311posted 7 years ago

    why they criticize every other faith and sect?

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      SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Their hearts are evil and full of mischeif. They follow after their father Satan instead of following God.

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        Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Here's what they say about themselves, seems they aren't much different than your views, SirDent. Where exactly do they say they follow Satan?

        "We adhere to the teachings of the Bible, preach against all form of sin (e.g., fornication, adultery [including divorce and remarriage], sodomy), and insist that the sovereignty of God and the doctrines of grace be taught and expounded publicly to all men."

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          Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          They show their leader (Satan)'s face when they hold up signs saying God hates fags, etc.   They lie.  And the Bible says Satan is the father of lies and the Truth is not in him.

          God doesn't hate people.  He Loved everyone so much that He sent Himself in the form of Jesus to die for us all.

          He DOES hate the sins people commit, though.

          I'd imagine the Westboro Church hates sin too, or tries to.  I don't think it's "fear" of homosexuals as someone else here touted,  because just 'cause someone hates sin doesn't mean they're "fearful" of that person (fearful FOR them sometimes, or fearful of the influence that person may have on innocents).  AND they surely know, just as everyone knows, that it IS just plain wrong, Biblically and by nature, to engage in homosexual activity.   But when they bring that to the conclusion that the person him/herself should be hated,  they're wayyyy wrong and have with that committed sin themselves because their hearts are filled with hatred.

          The Westboro Church is....messed-up....and yes promoting hatred and evil.  They shouldn't be allowed to picket in the manner they do, in my opinion.
          But hey, neither should homosexuals be allowed to picket the way they do!  They've been violent several times,  they're very aggressive in their agenda, and they're promoting things that go against both God's Law and man's laws.

          So the mess continues.


          And for Mark Know-less........your rotten manipulation by using my name in reference to that Westboro group is duly noted and called out for the hogwash it is.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image61
            Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            LOL - Know-less? Oh - I see what you mean. That the famous sense of humor you were telling me about? lol Never heard that one before......

            I really find it funny that both you and Dent think you are doing something different to these guys.

            Sad, but funny. Mostly sad. sad

          2. Beelzedad profile image60
            Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I don't see any faces of Satan in their signs, I only see the word "God" - I also only see what they claim to believe which is the bible and God. I don't see their beliefs are any different from yours or SirDents. Sorry, but that's what I'm observing here.



            I have read the same things here by you as I've read from their website. You hate homosexuality and want it abolished, so do they. What's the difference?

             

            See, you all believe in the same thing. Sorry, Brenda. smile

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              SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Typical crap from typical atheists.

              The obvious is stated in their signs: "God Hates Fags so much that Jesus didn't die for them but everyone else who are not fags. Jesus did not die for perverts either but only the Westboro church members."

              Next time you need the obvious pointed out, let me know.

              1. Beelzedad profile image60
                Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                "Typical crap from typical atheists."

                I must say, SirDent, you have a way with words. smile

                Of course, you can place your entire claim about the Westboro church on a sign, but I read their mission statement, which is no different than yours or any other Christian.

                You're free to try and defend your belief system and attempt to discredit the Westboro belief system, but the fact remains, they are one and the same. smile

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                  SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  But it is different, but even if the mission statement was the same, they are not doing the same.

                  1. Beelzedad profile image60
                    Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Exactly my point, SirDent. You're smarter than you think.  wink

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      crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Wow, those are some pretty strong negative feelings.  Would someone care to enlighten the Canadian who the Westboro Baptist Church is?

      Thanks!

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        SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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          crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks SirDent smile.  Judging by the name of the link alone, I can see where the animosity comes from.

          Psychologically speaking, when people do not understand something they fear it, and it is unfortunate that once that fear is made so strong as to unite others together in a bond of mutual fear it is almost impossible to break through the wall with education.  They encourage each other and it becomes an "us" and "them" mentality.  Hate groups like that don't usually last, though it is sad that they ever come into existence at all.  There are usually two outcomes, the fear grows so intense that it destroys itself and the group disbands with its members bewildered as to what happened to them or the group is crushed by the opposition.  Sometimes it can take months, and sometimes decades - but until the glue that holds them together is dissolved, any message of understanding will fall on deaf ears.

      2. Mark Knowles profile image61
        Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Typical religionists but a bit more aggressive, unless you have seen Brenda Durham on the attack. Some of these religious people attack atheists, some go for young girls who have abortions - these guys go for homosexuals and shrimp-eaters as well, I think.

        Damn good argument to do away with this disgusting religion once and for all I say. The moment you are deluded into thinking a god told you what to do is the moment you start becoming like e these guys.I do find it entertaining  that Dent think his attacks on abortion are any different.

        Hate filled nonsense. How do you feel about haircuts, Dent?

        http://markpknowles.com/wp-content/uploads/atheism/lev.jpg

        1. Sab Oh profile image61
          Sab Ohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          "Typical religionists "

          Their hate is not an excuse for your hate, hypocrite.

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          SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Blah blah blah. One of these days you will actually post something really worth responding to.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image61
            Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            But it is worth responding to Dent. attacking and accusing young girls faced with a difficult choice is exactly the same as attacking homosexuals. wink

            Still - are haircuts a sin? I am confused - and you are the self proclaimed voice of god. wink

            1. Sab Oh profile image61
              Sab Ohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Change of subject? Typical.

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              SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Here's the thing Mr Knowles. Until you read that hub I wrote, you have no idea what it is really about. You loked at a photo and judged me and the hub by it.

              1. Mark Knowles profile image61
                Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Here is the thing, Dent.

                I have read it. Sickly sweet guilt trip written by some one with more empathy for a person that never was than real people. Disgusting.

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                  SirDentposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  So then  you are saying those who have had abortions do not feel any guilt from it?

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image61
                    Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Oh - I'm sorry - did you not understand what I wrote? Should I write it in words of less syllables?

                    How many abortions have you had? How many babies have you adopted? Sound like a familiar conversation Dent?

                    Dear me.

                    Are you saying that those who give birth never regret it? Seeing as you are now God? wink

          2. Sab Oh profile image61
            Sab Ohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            So, their generalized bigotry and hatred IS an excuse for other generalized bigotry and hatred? That's some sharp thinking right there

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      crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm reading the Wikipedia article on the group, and I can't help but have this overwhelming feeling of pity for anybody who is a member of WBC.  Some of the things they say convey such strong feelings of hatred.  To live with that much negativity welling up inside you, to live with that much hated and rage.  It is so consuming, it poisons your whole life.  And for Phelp's children I have even more empathy because they have him as a role model.  The poison he is feeding his children is child abuse.   It is just not a pleasant way to live at all.  I've been there, I've been consumed by loathsome feelings for someone that I felt wronged me, and I was miserable for it.  I will never allow myself to feel like that again.  What this group is doing is absolutely atrocious, and I feel sorry for the members that have chosen to live this way.

      1. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        you are right...how can some group hate so much?

      2. rebekahELLE profile image92
        rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        it is child abuse, worse than physical as they have taken away the child's freedom to think.

        I'm a very compassionate, tolerant person, but I have not one ounce of pity for these adults.

  2. Sab Oh profile image61
    Sab Ohposted 7 years ago

    Those people are flat-out evil and should be removed from this earth.

    1. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I agree. these are not people. can you imagine being those children... terrible.

  3. Jerami profile image77
    Jeramiposted 7 years ago

    There are NO right answers

       Hate is not a respector of persons.
       There is no diffrence between HATING a homosexual and hating a person that hates homosexuals.
              (regardless of the issue)
       It doesn't matter how justified we think that we are..
       Or how good our excuse seems to be .. to ..ourselves..

       Hate is hate, irregardless of who it belongs to or what it is about.

       One person's hate becomes anothers justification to hate.
                  AND  YET
      And yet there are some things (such as "WBC") that can not be tolerated !!!  Who desides what those things are?            Who gets to swing the Ax?
     
      When a hundred people get to vote upon what is right and wrong ,nothing will ever be desided upon,
      And things continue to march on towards its eventual conclusion.   Unless ???
       
       every aspect of life contains an oximoron

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    I'm sorry you cannot grasp the concept of loving someone as a human being but hating their actions.

    1. Beelzedad profile image60
      Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I do grasp that concept, Brenda. And, I still don't see any difference in your beliefs and the beliefs of the WBC. Sorry. smile

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    They are vile rodents, nothing more!sad

    1. pylos26 profile image76
      pylos26posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      HEY...WAIT A MINUTE SNEAKO...your term rodent is supposed to be reserved for me...oh well...hope i'm not "vile" though.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Nah! You're a hoot or maybe a squawk?smile

  6. Daniel Carter profile image91
    Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago

    The Bible talks about walking a mile with someone to really understand them.

    Have any of the conservative Christian, homosexual hating people here ever met a homosexual or their family, or friends, and listened to what it's like to be beaten senseless by other "loving" homosexual-hating Christians? Have you ever listened to someone who wants to commit suicide because their conservative Christian family hates them and has disowned them? Have you ever had any of these experiences? I doubt it. And so then you will likely always feel justified in what you think, although you have absolutely no ability to comprehend what any of these things are really like.

    I pray you have a son or daughter who is gay or lesbian so that you can comprehend such suffering.

    Amen.

    1. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The term.. "we are all nothing but dirty rags" gets a big 
      AMEN in Church on Sunday Yet this attitude seldom makes it through the door and out into the streets.

         Instead we say a prayer; "Lord, thank you for not letting me be as bad of a sinner as .. HIM" 
         The funny thing is; that attitude goes across the board.
      Some folks are praising themselves for not allowing themselves to be like ... "THAT"
        Everybody's doin it so it must be a logical thing to do.

  7. Padrino profile image59
    Padrinoposted 7 years ago

    The Westboro Baptist Church is full of scumbags, they are no more representative of Christianity than the 9/11 hijackers are representative of Islam.

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      Davidsonofjesieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      they are all children of the teacher of hate

 
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