The series would be about “JC (Jesus Christ) wanting to escape his father's enormous shadow and to live life in NYC as a regular guy. A lot has changed in 2000 years and he is the ultimate fish out of water,” according to a press release. “Meanwhile his all-powerful yet apathetic father would rather be playing video games than listening to JC recount his life in the city. JC is a playful take on religion and society with a sprinkle of dumb.”
Wow, that's fantastic Pisean! Can't wait to see how the concept turns out. Can't wait to watch the fallout from it either!
A dumbed down book for the modern day followers of Christ. I like this!
After checking around a bit, I found some more info on the JC cartoon that Comedy Central intends to make. On a site called "theundergroundsite .com" a pretty basic article was posted, May 10, 2010, by Josh Givens, which gives more details about this show.
In a comments section, someone mentioned that this JC Cartoon that is in the works is a rip-off of an already existing show called "The JFC Show." The commenter posted the following link:
http://www.jfcshow.com there are some vids here and I watched two videos... and if the new Comedy Central show/cartoon is very similar to the videos at jfcshow .com, I'm sure Comedy Central will offend a lot of people.
* Warning...the two videos I watched are quite offensive in my opinion. There are several more video clips but I've have my fill already from viewing just the topmost two vid clips.
Mankind has lost its way. It almost seems as if America is fast becoming a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. The ridicule, degradation of Christian religion in my opinion is to desensitize enough people to the vulgarity would be openly acceptable. How ironic we demand freedom as a race of people but we object to others who think differently than we do regarding their freedom and so we impose our shameful behavior on others.
Yeah - it was much, much better when we had legal slavery and Americans were free to pollute without facing punishment.
Wiping out the indigenous population was a genuine show of christian love.
Intentionally infecting service men with syphilis - good times.
The Great Depression must have been a very special time as well. Love the dropping of an Atomic bomb on civilians also.
Aahhh - the good old days.
What do you miss the most?
I find nonbelievers spend most of their time criticizing others about what should have happened during those times living during that time. Where their contributions to these things that you're caught talking about? Did they stop slavery did they prevent the atom bomb? Did they make this place a better planet? Because if you look around I don't see where nonbelievers actions has made a difference in any at all!
I find believers spend most of their time complaining about how terrible things have gotten and ignore the truth about the past. I asked a straight question. You are saying things were better. I am saying you are wrong.
I pointed out some thing from the past that were clearly not "better"" and asked you to tell me what it is that you miss from those days.
What is it that makes you think things were better in the face of proof that things were actually worse in many ways.
There were problems in the past there's no getting around that but when people detach themselves from those very same problems which they can influence just as well as the people they're talking about that to me is selfishness.
We may not agree but one doesn't present his arguments as if he's looking down on the other person.
What I miss about the old days men women and children could walk down the street date at night without much of the fear men and women have today. People could live in their houses without locks on the doors and windows.
Relationships weren't so great that they were a heck of a lot better than they are today.
This is only a few things about the past that I liked.
Poverty has always caused crime. In poor neighborhoods, theft and violence were always a problem. They just weren't writing books about it.
The voices of the poor have always been stifled. The problem we face today is increasing poverty, which is cyclical. If you want to improve the crime rates in america, fight poverty.
Fighting ignorance would also be useful.
This is what I'm talking about rather then saying we need to do something about this problem it's why do you do something about it.
I understand poverty could be elimnated with the stroke of the pen but people vote on what they like and usually poverity isn't on the ballet.
We can't get people to stop buying gas for one day and you expect me to end proverty.
So - things are better than they were in some ways and worse in others? Which renders your original statement some what worthless, wouldn't you say. Seems to me that you are the one detaching yourself by suggesting that now is "worse" than then - when that is not really the case is it?
Slavery is gone, yet - you are more scared than you were. How is this in any way have anything to do with the growing disdain for a religion that has been proven to be false?
Nice to see you live in a delusional world. Thank you for letting us know before the conversation gets going.
The ridicule, degradation of Christian religion Again, you love to use your skewed view to make a topic suit your own agenda. Great!
As for this part of your post, I find believers the MOST WORSE offenders of rights infringement, if I have ever seen. So, please get off your high horse and come down to reality. Your righteousness? Is clouding your judgment. If you are a religious person, then obviously you pay no mind to your religion. Otherwise, you would not be in a forum chatting about your religious belief.
Sure, you have your right to free speech and freedom to practice your religion, however, you are NOT use your state of righteousness to claim superiority. Which, by your words you are.
Who is imposing what shameful behavior on whom?
It is interesting that no matter how many times your god smites the people of the earth, wipes us all out to start over again, the world always moves towards a Sodom and Gomorrah.
Proof positive that gods are fallible and religion doesn't work.
One of my favorite books is kind of on this theme though it's not a comedy, it's "Illusions" by Richard Bach. It tells of the Messiah living in the Holy State of Indiana. He's a mechanic and he's the real deal, a full fledged Messiah. He sees the reality behind all the illusions of the world. One day he goes up into the mountain and says to God. "I'm bored with this gig. I quit." and God says "That is good, have fun"
It's a good read with occasional references to "The Messiah's Handbook" It certainly made me start to think about my views on the whole religion thing. Seems to me this comedy show will also bring people to serious thought about religion.
It's sure to scare those who have a vested interest in keeping the sheep well herded.
Can you imagine a great philosopher and empathizer being satisfied in the role of 'believe in me and you're in'?
What a dull little corner they've painted the whol thing into. Entirely fictional or supersized exageration of an actual philosopher of the time, history has thoroughly missed -or purposely avoided- the point.
What arrogance and cynicism. So you consider yourself a better recorder and interpreter of history? that happened ... let's see... how many years prior to your birth?
Have you ever actualy read or studied any ancient history?
What a dull little empty world for those who can't feel the presence of something beyond themselves.
As for the cartoon of the topic, aren't all arrogant cynics glad they can poke fun at any relgiion in America, that wouldn't be the case should the Islamic countries take hold, and even now, in America, your life would be at risk for poking fun at the prophet Mohammed as being satisfied in the role of 'believe in me and you're in', and certainly for intimating that his life has been fictionalized, etc...
Just occured to me as well, is not Obama pretty much espousing your 'believe in me and you're in'?
Overcrowded prisons, racial hatred still exist, photography a billion-dollar industry, thrill killing, increase gangs, increase in serial killers, fear moving across the nation
that is only a small list of the degradation which takes place now if you call this a good society to live in then our viewpoints are on opposite ends of the planet.
That was not my point at all. I think it is disgusting and a crying shame, although I rarely feel the fear that you do.
But - you are fooling yourself into believing it has ever been any different and - blaming it on a move away from Christianity.
Your religion is part and parcel of the problem because it encourages the sheep like behavior that allows the powers that be to destroy us.
Divide and conquer.
Religion and politics divide us - and the bankers conquer.
From my perspective it is your disbelief which allows people to kids themselves into believing they have the answers to the problems when the problems simply keep increasing.
Yes - I understand it is all my fault and the wonderful utopia that came with slavery etc etc has now gone. That is the problem with irrational beliefs systems like yours - they perpetuate willful ignorance.
All my fault for not believing in the invisible super being - got it.
I'm trying to earn more with my Amazon sales . . . can anybody offer any . . . oops, wrong forum!
Yes Don, wrong forum thread....see the little delete button?? for this post...if so, then delete your post and find the right forum to ask for help.
I wonder about people who talk of the good old days myself. If more people went to church in the 50's and there were more practising christians back then and some people felt they could leave their doors unlocked and walk the streets without fear, who are they talking about? I'd like these christians to talk to some of my black friends who have a very different view of the "Good old days" they will tell you of men being dragged out of their own homes to be lynched. They don't remember those good old days.
When I talk to people who really were there they say that things are better now. So their logic would follow that the less people who go to church the safer and better it is.
Beats me - I have had this same discussion several times and they refuse point blank to acknowledge how bad things were - I even listed a few for this one and wrote an article about this very question.
The great depression?
I could go on - but it certainly was no bed of roses.
People who have the "good old days" view of the past tend not to have much of a grasp on the present. It's a fear born of disengagement, timid viewing of others from the fringe.
It's why that stereotypical "old guy" can always be heard muttering, "Kids these days," into his beard. Generation after generation. And despite how every generation seems to get on pretty much just like the last ones did.
You don't have to ask your friends how bad it was
I am a Vietnam veteran and Afro-American.
As bad as it was in those good old days I don't attribute breaking the bonds of prejudice, bigotry and the like from just the leadership at the time. It is my belief God selected people the same as he did with Moses to end the years of nightmares.
You will not find anywhere on this website or any other website where I talk about bringing up those aspects of bigotry, prejudice and all the other ills that have kept people down.
Well, maybe those Christians and some impartial agnostics should do just that, talk to your black friends, and other black Americans, about life in the 50's. If lynchings were so very 50's era current and common as you imply, they would still be a hot topic, and for certain the school's would not have been desegregated in the 60's and I wouldn't have made new black friends who taught me to sing and dance to the Funky Chicken on the playground and opened up a whole new world to me in many ways. Your kind of talk is in the interest of perpetuating ugliness.
Those days and the early 60's were better days in many ways, and the loss of any religion, be it Muslim or Christian or Jewish or whatever, from our schools has undoubtedly been a factor in the ruthless behavior of many school age kids in the past several years.
LOL - the good old days were when men hunted and fished while women looked after a simple camp (children played) and then the men would return, eat and they would make love all night.
More spiritual wisdom was shared around the campfire at night than in any book!
Ah! the good old days! LOL
The fact that others poke fun at your ridiculous beliefs is called freedom of speech.
Not freedom of your speech alone, but those of other people who disagree with your pathetic fairytale of a few old goat herders who's version of how we should live our lives is spouting hate and disdain for anyone that disagrees with their bronze aged dogma.
I find it ironic you are tying a bunch of topics together, to fit nicely into whatever is you are yapping about.
I also find your attitude a bit nerve-racking, to say the least. Like, telling someone to read history or ancient history? Are you assuming they do not know something? If that be the case, then why don't you enlighten the rest of us.
You seem to be a bit over the top and I am curious to learn why?
So, you can indulge me or you can flip me off by not answering. Either way, what you will not do is to tell someone else that they cannot voice their opinion. You have just as much right to talk, as the next person, and if you do not like that fact, then I would suggest you check your ego at the forum door.
Yes, I may sound like I am condescending, but the facts are in your words, as to the truth of mine. So, if the truth to you is condescending, so be it.
As for the cartoon, and much of what you said about religions are really just a gimmick. The cartoon would be for viewers and ratings. Just like religion and it's concept "god", a gimmick.
So, please, do enlighten us, since you apparent seem to be a voice of authority on the topic.
However, should you make a mistake or use anything other than facts....you're opening yourself for rebuttal.
Either way, I await your rely.
I'm over the top? Among all this shix posted here in attack and an 'I'm smarter' than you dum Christians mode? Check my ego? How about yours?
You leave me dumbfounded. (and yeah, I imagine you'll use that word for another page long diatribe just cause I gave my own thoughts and opinions, do carry on.)
I wonder if the cartoon makers have received death threats from any radical extreemist Christian groups.
I hope not. In Australia we have quite direct humour especially when it comes to sacred cows like religion. Some of it is very clever and entertain regardless of beliefs.
The question was retorical, silly guy.........
Modern day Christians don't usually make death threats that I'm aware of. That's another group's forte.
nah, they prefer, "if you don't believe in the devil, you will not be saved"
seriously, i've had atleast two born againers tell me this!
Me too! That is also what I tried to ram down peoples throats when I was a born again!
To the poor buggers who listened to me then ..... Sorry about that!
i will acknowledge this even if i'm not sure if its sarcastic or historical.
so can you explain the fascination for the devil (post-fascination?)
Yes I can to my satisfaction at this time.
The devil is necessary in religiosity as a semi divine entity or condition to apportion responsibility to that which is "other than."
Other than god, other than man.
Post Jungian psychology has understood this mechanism and explained it very well.
Like much Jungian based theory it has masses of empirical evidence to support it as a theory, and case histories of the application of the theory in psychotherapy.
i know that part, but when you were selling the dope, what was in your head? certainly not post-Jung anti-hero archetype!
no certainly not!
I had Jesus!!! I was saved!!!!!!!!!!!! I studied the bible day and night, I had to spread the truth of his word wherever I went because I really thought it was truth at the time. I was young, and had never heard of psychology, was bought up with religion.
Oh I see...my parents were cool that they showed me the entire stratosphere of intelligent thought including history and religion as well as anti-religion. So, I have nothing against religion per se and see its value. i also do see how people can get it totally wrong. I'm so sorry to hear about the death of your yoda and the exposure of your darth vadar self in that cave.
i just know where to find all the atheists...put Jesus Christ in a forum name and there they are.
I truly do not get that, why do I have to believe in the devil to be saved? Shouldn't I believe in Jesus to be saved? Why the devil? Somebody please explain convoluted interpretation of ancient gnostic myths?
Never heard that one before. The Hell concept has been oversimplified by the ignorant masses, in my opinion.
complicate-tified would be a better description
hell is just pain that seems to have no end, its metaphorical
What about to be dammed? It seems to me that when something is dammed, It is being prevented from progression, rather than being banished all together.
Wow! Does anyone remember a movie called The Last Temptation Of Christ? Reading all these comments reminds me of all the backlash generated by that film. Lots of controversy. My former pastor advised the congregation not to see the movie, calling it "blasphemous". But I found nothing offensive in the film. It was simply a "what if" thing, as in "What if Jesus chose NOT to die on the cross?" And he did have that option. In fact, many onlookers were tempting him to do that very thing.The film examined the possibility of Jesus' deciding not to die, and that shook a lot of people up.
Sounds like this cartoon will have the same effect. Good or bad, it'll at least put Jesus on the minds of people who otherwise might not think about him at all. Could be a good thing. We shall see.
Your perception of this religious cartoon issue as being a problem has held true.
Apparently everything in life isn't a joke or funny.
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