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What if??

  1. Jerami profile image77
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    I do not have a problem with the posability of GOD in whatever concept that you are wanting to see him/it; coming to the inhabitance of the earth and attempting to explain himself as best as they were able to understand him/her/it/whatever.

        As mankinds understanding increased "God" could have attempted to refine their understanding of what is?

       What if it was the same one all along????

    1. Dense profile image67
      Denseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It's always been the same one. It's just the marketing people dressing it up differently for their purposes. IMMHO.

      1. Jerami profile image77
        Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You have a point!  And maybe ?  We both have a point?

    2. Pandoras Box profile image82
      Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Then it's time for a new revelation. A universal one might be a nice change. No prophets.

      1. Jerami profile image77
        Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I think that it is coming.  But not in the way that many think.

      2. Dense profile image67
        Denseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        As far as I know, God's been here all along. And He doesn't have one single avenue of spreading his message. Whether you heard Him through the Holy Spirit, The Power of The Subconscious Mind, The Law Of Attraction - it doesn't really matter to Him. It only mattered to us. We're the ones fighting over who's praying to the right God. In the words of George Carlin: "My God has a bigger d*ck than your God!". I believe when we can all see past all the smokescreens generated by religions we'll understand God more and more. Monotheistic religions tells us that there is only one God - but don't pray to the others cause they are fakes or lesser Gods. This is when they do us a great disservice. I believe at this point in time, a lot of people have heard God speak and the only reason why others aren't hearing Him is that their thinking has been limited by their belief of how God is like.

        1. Jerami profile image77
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I did not come to that realization until after I untangled all of the religious knots in my religious rope that they gave to me long ago.
             I guess that if I had just dropped the rope that was holding me back I would have been just as well off.
             But NOoo  I hat to untangle the knots first before I decided that I didn't need the rope.

            God is good ..the word of God is like a babbling brook       

             Religiosity is too deep and too swift to cross.
             We need to keep our faith in God simple.
             We don't even have to do anything with it.
             God didn't say to go running through the streets setting the world on fire with the holy spirit.
             He just don't want us to but a basket over it and hide it..

             Just my opinion

          1. Dense profile image67
            Denseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Yeah, it's always a personal path. Me thinks if you knew you had found God and you're at peace with yourself, who has the right to say otherwise? wink

    3. getitrite profile image80
      getitriteposted 6 years ago in reply to this



      I have a problem with your theory.  This makes god look like something other than the "creator"  In other words, why would god have to play silly games with humanity until it became evolved enough to perceive god?  Why didn't he just make humans smart enough to perceive him from the outset?

      For an entity that is given credit for creating reality, god sure looks impotent by your concept.  If god had to "attempt" anything, then he is surely not god.

      1. Jerami profile image77
        Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What I see wrong with your theory is that we are not yet inteligant enough to fully understand who and what the creator is. Nor do I believe that we ever will be.

        1. getitrite profile image80
          getitriteposted 6 years ago in reply to this



          So why didn't god just make us intelligent enough in the first place?  The onus is on god not us.  Is god NOT the creator?

          1. Jerami profile image77
            Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Maybe he tried that once.  God then had to kick Lucifer out of heaven cause he thought he knew better than the creator.

               What are the chances of mankind doing the same.If he had made us that inteligent?
              Or something like that.

            1. getitrite profile image80
              getitriteposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Do you realize what you're saying?  Why does god need to TRY anything?  Words such as "try" and "attempt" define finite beings, not gods.  And of course, god having no control over his own creation is confounding the already absurd premise.




              So, I get it--intelligence is dangerous to omniscient god.  Wow!

              1. Jerami profile image77
                Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                No it is my inadequesy for responding corectly that falls short.

                  Anytime we humans preceive ourselves adequate to answer for God; we will always fall short.

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            Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            may i cut in:

            (He) did. This is the irony of it.
            Every shred of necessary knowledge has been 'programmed' into our make up.
            So now the onus is on us humans to either enjoy that stasis or reject it. This is why religion/science are working so hard to 'find' the answers before 'time' runs out on humanity. This compulsion to understand what we already have been given.
            The simple truth, witnessed throughout history, is man is more than he sees himself as. This is that consciousness of a different nature, what some call sin. The simple act of indulging their own thoughts, yet never being able to exercise those givens as reality.

            1. Jerami profile image77
              Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Good answer

        2. getitrite profile image80
          getitriteposted 6 years ago in reply to this



          Maybe we are not yet intelligent enough to fully understand that there is probably no creator...and that every last religion is an effort in futility in trying to understand "god"

          1. Jerami profile image77
            Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            That is a posability...?  There are lots of posabilities.

          2. goldenpath profile image82
            goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I would submit that life, not just religion, is the pursuit to know God in whatever form one chooses to believe Him as.  It's that pursuit to know and understand that power greater than oneself.  That power from whence one came and was created.  Whether it be an actual physical being or an invisible entity or nature itself - the pursuit to know it IS a part of life itself.

            1. Jerami profile image77
              Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              also a good answer.

                 I do like the concept of what if.

                I think that getitrite was basically saying  "What If"  and I apreciate the spirit in which he has joined the conversation.

                Thank you Getitrite  and all others

              1. getitrite profile image80
                getitriteposted 6 years ago in reply to this



                You're welcome, Jerami.

            2. getitrite profile image80
              getitriteposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              True.  And you and I just don't know what that power or force is.

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                Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                hmm, question: why would you not know what that power/force is?

                1. Jerami profile image77
                  Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I have heard people expound as to what they think the power is, and I have a few ideas but to KNOW it; and what IT is, I would not bet my life on my concept being absolutely correct.  I know it is!  but will never in this life fully understand what IT is.

                    A little puppy does not try to understand totally what is holding it and keeping it warm. The puppy just KNOWS that IT is doing it. Maybe he tried that once.  He then had to kick Lucifer out of heaven cause he thought he knew better than the creator.

  2. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Keep it based on reality rather than unknown. wink

    1. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      This to will come with the change that is coming

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The change coming? hmm

        Do you think there is some mystical change about to happen?

        Unfortunately, you are correct there is a change coming, but it's not a mystical one, but the next step of human evolution.

        1. Jerami profile image77
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          A rose by any name is still a rose.

            Earth cycles, Human cycles, The bell is about to ring.
          This class is about over,
            We have stretched this rubberband about as far as it will stretch.  And it is getting old.

        2. Jerami profile image77
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I hope that you are right.  There is the possibility of moving into something like the dark ages?
             And When they emerge back into something like our renaissance, maybe then If we preserve our written knowledge, and IF they do they do not pervert that knowledge; then Maybe they will do a better job nurturing the earth than we did.
           
             Maybe then mankind will evolve into a higher state of concienscness

            I can see it happening something like this.

  3. Pandoras Box profile image82
    Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago

    No earthquakes and color-coded horsemen. wink

    1. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yea there will be earth quakes and volcanoes. Earth is goina keep doin what it does, on its own schedule.
       
         Ya don't have to be a wise man to see where civilization is headed.  Change of one form or another is on the horizon.

          Like a drunk driver on Saturday night, The throttle is stuck wide open. 
         He is either going to change directions, run out of gas
      or hit the wall.

    2. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The color coded horsemen ?? 
         Church teaches that these horsemen are sent down to the earth for a short period of time, close to the time that the earth is destroyed.

        Where does this concept come from.  It isn't written that way.

        These horsemen could have been sent down to earth soon after the crucifixion and have been roaming the earth ever sense.

        People read more into scripture than is actually written. This is called embellishment ??????

  4. BRIAN SLATER profile image86
    BRIAN SLATERposted 6 years ago

    What if? Remember "Sliding Doors"

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Awesome movie! smile

    2. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No  didn't see the movie.  maybe I should ??

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Absolutely wonderful movie, everybody should see it!

  5. profile image61
    khopkins75posted 6 years ago

    Everyone has their own opinion, mine is this. I believe in God. I stand firmly and can't be shaken from my beliefs. As for the earthquakes, the bible told there would be earthquakes in diverse places. I find it odd that the bible tells everything that is going to happen was written many many years ago but yet no one wants to believe it. It's like a fear that spreads, if someone told you a meteor was heading to earth going to completely destroy it and you could look into the sky and see it, someone somewhere would say it was something else. And everyone would believe them because they don't want to fear what's going to happen.

  6. Daniel Carter profile image92
    Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago

    Maybe if God "is", then it's like air. It's always been there, been a part of us, and it's up to us to recognize and become aware of it, if we want that connection. Maybe the universe is "God." And if that's possible, then we are as atomic particles in God. We have the illusion that somehow we are separate from him, but that's just our illusion. Becoming aware is up to us. Colored horses and stories are symbols about consciousness, which as we discover their levels only brings us more awareness. Therefore, they don't have to be real stories, they are symbols of awareness and consciousness.

    I'm not saying that's the way it is, or even that's what I believe. There isn't enough evidence one way or another to know. The only way to *know* for me is to experience it, and I haven't experienced a metric buttload of stuff that people say is true in religion. But I do think there is something about awareness and consciousness that makes sense in relation to who we are in the universe.

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    Home Girlposted 6 years ago

    No, they all going to fight for the scepter upstairs and the winner will reveal Himself to people. So we will have: let me see, aha: universal currency, government, language, God. How convenient!

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    Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago

    Indeed. There are no new prophets and a change is coming.
    There is nothing mystical about it.

    It is Universal. This is the escape hatch, if you will, from those limited gods/Gods and 'rationed human thought, to a real and livable Truth.

    Everything/the universe is the breathe of Creator.
    So, all these human applications/considerations are pointless when it comes down to it. Looking at books, stars, changing planetary conditions means nothing if we continue to accept such a pitiful existence and purpose.

    What if: we actually get out of our heads, books, buildings, labs, banks, behinds and start interacting with the universe by ITS terms, not our own perceptions of those terms.
    How different that would be.

    1. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Had company stop by  I'm back for a little bit.
        Have chores to do though.

        I always thought that mankind has always created our own worries.
        Life seemed simple when I was younger sitting out on the top of a ridge, laying back in the sun on a sunny winter day, watching a lead leaf that had fallen but the updraft picked it up way high in the sky.Drifting in the wind all afternoon.
         And then things got more complicated when I started wanting more and more stuff.
         Seems like I got caught up into some kind of runaways.

        Haven't been able to get a handle on that feeling of peace and contentment since then.

         Is that something like what you are talking about???
        If so,  I'm wanting some change now.

      1. profile image0
        Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        absolutely. the magnificent simplicity is beyond human belief for some reason. By simplicity, I don't mean ignorance or apathy, but a reality far exceeding these things we humans assume are right/good for us.

        1. Jerami profile image77
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I think that the early American Indians had the right Idea, unfortunately Progress marches forward.   constantly.

  9. Pandoras Box profile image82
    Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago

    I'm not expecting the change for another ten years or so.

    1. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I thinking that there is going to be a big break down in the next couple of years.  It may get better immediately and it may take a few years before it is all better again.

         As far as breakdown is concerned.. We ain't seen nuthin yet,

         I hope I'm wrong?

  10. goldenpath profile image82
    goldenpathposted 6 years ago

    Hi

    1. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Hi back atcha.

      1. goldenpath profile image82
        goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Flipping through and saw the word "prophets" and had to see what was up.  I believe we have prophets on the Earth today agreeable to the scriptures would happen.

        1. Jerami profile image77
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I would have to ask about the definition of what you believe a prophet to be before I could agree with ya.

            I'd have to sit down with that person and find out if his message is actualy in agreement with scripture or with mans interpretations of scripture.
             If not; I would think him to be just another false wanna be prophet.  There are suposed to be quite a few of them kind.

          1. goldenpath profile image82
            goldenpathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Definitely.  For every thing that is good there is a vice.  That's part of why so many cannot believe in a modern prophet who whole-heartedly agrees with the prophets of old.  There are many false which, in turn, should be a witness that there IS a true prophet on the Earth.  Otherwise, there would be no reason for the vice.

  11. goldenpath profile image82
    goldenpathposted 6 years ago

    Acts 3:21
    Part of the "restitution" mentioned is that restoration of the former knowledge that has been lost, modified or purposely omitted.  Scripture also tells us that this knowledge, as in times of old, comes forth through the prophets.  Even in times of old they knew that the actual eternal knowledge would be molested in the last days.  The Plan has made provisions for this in bringing forth the Restoration of the gospel - that former knowledge in it's pristine nature, undefiled.

 
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