Why is religion so good and so bad?

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   ceciliabeltranposted 13 years ago

   I think religion, just like money and marriage is as good and as bad as people can get.

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      (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Religion can be good?

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         Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         see the Mark v Luke 'gospel', might shed some light.

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         ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         not for you, no. That would be outside the realm of possibility. By the way, go feed the starving children in the world. Don't waste your time here. OH wait. You're still here. Feed the world, make it a better place. For you and for me and the entire human race...there are
         
         
         people dying, if you care enough for the living
         
         make a better place...for you and for me.
         
         GET YER ASS MOVIN'! Buy a burger and feed one starving child! Then you'll see why some people love the groove of the love your neighbor mantra, they get high on that endorphin generating stuff that they don't have time to get morose on forums.

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      moverworxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      hi all,
      dont mixx  religion with good and  bad?
      
      nothing is bad,its your thinking which is bad towards the religion,
      
      one good thing abt religion is that it  create some faith in ur  heart,i am experienced while traveling with moverworx,it is the religion which  help me alot,
      so dont think abt negative always see positive
      tc

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         ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         hear no evil,see no evil, speak no evil, right?
         
         well, shadows are merely shadows, no need to get spooked by them. it is one directional light that causes them.

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   ceciliabeltranposted 13 years ago

   lottery winners react to sudden wealth according to their true nature.

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   ceciliabeltranposted 13 years ago

   marriage is as bad as the couple's mutual neurosis.

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      TheGlassSpiderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Do you think there is anything to be said for the idea that we unconsciously choose partners who will exacerbate our personal neuroses for the express purpose of learning/growing? (As Carl Whitaker suggests)

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         ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I totally think we spot the once that contain lessons we haven't fully learned in life yes. So if your spouse is unbearable...well maybe so are you.

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   ceciliabeltranposted 13 years ago

   we color neutral things with the lens of our own mind.

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      TheGlassSpiderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This is a great way to say this, and I agree wholeheartedly...I may borrow this little saying from time to time if you don't mind.

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         ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         i think i borrowed that from somewhere else as well

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      paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend ceciliabeltran
      
      I also appreciate your above sentence.
      
      Thanks
      
      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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   Twenty One Daysposted 13 years ago

   First, 4 posts in a row no reply is a record!
   Second, is that OP a rhetorical question?

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      ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I know right?
      
      I didn't think of it as a rhetorical question but I guess it is.

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         Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         indeed, your post (four posts up) said it all.
         we can stretch out the finer points, but I think you know them.
         Clarity/Purity must come separate from the duality, or the divided duality, hemispheric quadrants, necessity. So long as their is an application of the condition, that plague will always be.

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            ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            oh so that's what you mean when you say that....hmmm... clarity and purity is James speak for neutrality!

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               Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               neutrality/complacency? LOL.
               No, much the opposite, full engagement. Again without applying the Ism elements. Challenging? Yes. Impossible? No.

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                  ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  i agree with full engagement. But neutrality is an active orbit of energy as well. It is not directional though but circular.
                  
                  you can see it in all neutral embodiments of nature.
                  
                  the neuron.
                  
                  left side, dendrites, lots of receptacles that suck neurochemicals  axons, one long branch sticking out of right side that transmit it. nueron body, round. it contains the thought and acts as a funnel towards the axon.
                  
                  trees, same thing.
                  
                  the roots will be sucking water below going further into darkness, while the leaves will be pushing out fruits, flowers and ever reaching towards the sun.But what is a trunk? What does a tree trunk do? the tree trunk separates the two opposing forces of the tree. cut a tree and what do you see...circular rings. the balance of push and pull that we can observe in stable units of nature. just like the sun, it is circular.
                  
                  In this way, clarity is neutral in that it is mindful. it neither exists in past hurts nor is it too concerned with consequence.( or should I see conscience?) It is neither just sucking energy nor expending it. it is doing both in a cyclical way. If you have clarity of mind you become a medium for growth.
                  
                  you become an allower. allowers validate a presence of truth in whatever form it takes. in this way the truth passes through his life undistorted by polarity.

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                     Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I am such an enabler!

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   Religion is both good and bad cause Religion is a man made.
   
     A relationship with God is brought about by God.
   So it is all good.

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      ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      agree, as long as man is living in either side of dualities we will fail to see that all things our neutral except our choices.

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Part of the problem is that very few parishners do not affect the change that is needed.  And that change would be to honestly examine itself.

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            Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Indeed, keyword : parish. They sit and nod but that is as far as it goes. I would guess that 98% of all parishioners do not actively engage faith/belief, thus the spread of whatever the minister says goes aka doctrine. To question the doctrine(s), they need to be educated apart from it -and people just don't have the 'time'. Same with much of the parish of science. Most just go with it.

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               Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I can't find the words to say how much I agree.
               Just can't make my fingers type the words that I'd like to write.  The title of the topic says it all.
                   SOo Good  and SOOooo bad.

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               ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Baaaaah...

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   ralwusposted 13 years ago

   good, religion sets boundaries; bad, religion sets boundaries

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      ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      you got it!

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      TheSablirabposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Religion is good in that it is, and should be, at it's core, comforting. People look to it because they find SOMETHING in it that is comforting, even if it turns out to be something that is not good (although, what is good? What is bad?). At it's core, religion should teach you to accept others for what they are, learn to love them, and respect who they are. You may not agree with everything they say, but you should still love and respect them all the same, because they bring something to the table.
      
      Religion at it's worst - makes people twist and turn and do things that do not bring out the best in us. It makes us conqour lands and cities in the "name of our God"; it makes us punish others for something we were brought up believing is not good. Instead of embracing the differences in each and everyone of us, it can teach people to hate, because of what you were taught and leanred from a book.

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   kessposted 13 years ago

   The good in religion is that in their blindness -they will always do the will of god  and their hypocrisy will be used to glorify Him that lives.

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   There is not one single good thing about being delusional.

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      ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with this too. but that applies to everything, money, power, sex, superiority of any kind, better, smarter, more aware...all of these things can make one delusional. delusion by definition means the evidence is in front of you, yet you refuse to see it.
      
      Delusion overcompensates by exaggerating one's faith, one's bliss over his own wealth, one's projection of sexuality, one's feelings of superiority to cover up for fears of the opposite.

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    errum fattahposted 13 years ago

    there's a truth behind it;
                      bad ppl always abuse good religion... e.g islam is a good religion but "BAD" people abuse it and blame it...but they dont look into their own created evil faith..

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    taliesin3339posted 13 years ago

    Religion is good in that it keeps people being altruistic and helping others. It helps to encourage morality in society in conjuction with the governments' laws. It is bad in the way that much of it is involved with blind dogma, believing in myths that should never make sense to an educated full-grown adult, and cause intolerance of other faiths. one particular religion comes to mind with the blind dogma, believing stuff thats absurd and intolerance for other belief systems, but i will not name it here in order to not offend. however, i do believe in a higher power, but organized religion is largely a lie and a tool used to control the masses.

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       paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Hi friend taliesin3339
       
       I also agree with you.
       
       Thanks
       
       I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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