facebook, which is mentioned in the lists of famous websites of this world, had did a very shamefull thing by posting mohommad(pbuH)'s cartoon... the man who is the great man in this world, this kind of acts can't make prophet Mohommad(pbuh)'s status low but facbook had shown its real face to all ppl in this world tht its surrounded by killers of our prophet(jews)and it can't do anything... but the most sad point in this is tht the facebook is a website of a country which always talks about "peace", but it can't c this kind of violence. oh!than it is said to be " freedom to speech", is this a " freedom of speech?" no! its not a freedom its just insult. we should think tht if tht ppl can do bad acts abt MOHOMMAD(PBUH) than i dont have any doubt tht soon they will also start to do tht kind of mess against our other prophets, the most respected ppl of this world,... so now its time to wakeup its enough now we can't bear it more, , a thing which can hurt billion people is not in category of freedom.... now its time to get back to Allah, is our faith is getting too weak tht non muslims dares to do this kind of things, v should protest against facebook and should continue till it has been blocked.
but i think tht its not allowed in islam bcuz the other people may insult them much more than now. As u can c tht non muslims can't leave any event of insulting islam and our prophets, so i think tht now its gud tht we haven't seen mohommad(pbuh).. or they may destroy or burn it for expressing thier hate...
but tht facebook had made certain sketches of prophet where they had insulted him, i strongly censure tht kinds of activities done by non muslims, it should b banned forever for supporting such unethical activities..
and tht sketch which the ppl had drawn is not jesus, how do u know tht jesus is like him? its also the insult of jeus(pbuh).
Ah, Muslims, always the victims, always the group that gets the short end of the stick.
You must realize that Muslims will not censor free speech, no matter how hard you try. In fact, the harder you try and the more protests you make, the more people will draw cartoons of your murderous despot prophet and the more credibility Islam and Muslims will lose.
Okay you have insulted and accused the entire Hebrew race, and you seem to close with a threat that your followers have grown weak allowing nonmuslims to "dare" to draw cartoons.
This is what religion does to people. You're ready to attack, accuse and threaten and goodness knows what else all because someone drew a picture of your long dead and no doubt misguided prophet.
America's not a nation of peace. What would ever give you that idea? We're a nation of freedoms. Freedoms to make cartoons. We have cartoons about god and jesus and plenty of other mythological creations, and your religion doesn't get a free pass.
I know it annoys religious people when their religion fails to gain them special status.
This protest is in response to the censoring of a South Park episode a few weeks ago. The episode never showed Mohammad but did put him in a bear costume as no one is allowed to show him. Then a muslim from the website Revolution Muslim made a veiled threat against the lives of the show's creators saying this is not a threat but you will probably end up like the Theo van Gough. Pictures of him were featured on the website and other stuff.
Theo was a dutch filmmaker murdered in Amstedan by Muslim fanatics.So of course Comedy Central censors the next episode due to the website in order to protect the lives of the show's creator even over their objection. Including censoring the end of the show speech which did not even mention Mohammad.
So someone comes up with the idea of everybody draw mohammad day. It goes viral and original creator backs out out of fear as it surpassed her expectations. Yet it still continues and why May 20th is now Everybody Draw Mohammad Day.
There isn't much anyone could do to make Momo any more of a mesogenic racists than he is already. He has proved just what he was all throughout the Qu'ran. With his self-serving verses and perversion,(such as giving himself allah's blessing to screw and marry his daughter in law.)
Yup he doesn't need any help from anyone to prove he was a pervert and racist psychopath.
And I for one have joined that page.... didn't have to tell me about it twice.
All you lefties should be on it, also.
Or are you all for crushing the freedom of expression and speech?
It's funny. Just 10 minutes ago I was telling my friend that Draw Mohammed Day was stupid, that it wouldn't achieve anything, and that it was just being insulting to Islam. I know that it stands for something more important .. free speech ... but I thought (and still think) that all that will happen is that Islamic activists will get angry and blow up innocent people, and nothing would be achieved.
But now I feel forced to speak up for the other side. Why on earth would you think that it was a Jewish conspiracy? Did you know that Jews aren't allowed to draw pictures of God ... in fact they are not even allowed to write the word 'God' in a sentence. Why would they campaign for the world to draw Mohammed when they can't draw God. I think there is a little hypocrisy there. Also, you don't see Jews burning American flags on the streets of Israel every time the Simpsons show God sitting on a white cloud watching over every one.
Fair enough, if Muslims aren't allowed to draw pictures of Mohammed ... noone is going to make you. But you cannot stop others doing it if they want because that IS preventing Free Speech.
It is not freedome of Speech.Freedome don't mean insulting others beleif.Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is loved by all muslims and according to Muslim's beleif his caricature or portrait is not allowed.So now facebook had lost their face through this act.
That is the definition of freedom of speech, that I can say what I want, when and how I want. I am sorry, but just like any other religion, you do not have the right to be offended. How about this, if it offends you don't look at it!
People should be allowed to draw who they want, when they want. Threats of violence and murder that seem to follow anyone drawing or considering drawing your religious figure should be considered a worse sin for Allah to deal with himself. I'm sick and frickin tired of hearing about it! South Park is edited due to fear! They have made fun of dang near everyone on the planet and they have to edit their show out of FEAR. I have a few choice words for you people that Hubpages would kick me off for so I'll stop!
I don't respect your prophets, I don't respect Islam, your religion doesn't respect anything but violence. I have never seen any Muslim speak out against the violence perpetrated in the name of Islam but I have seen them try and justify it. If there is an Allah I bet he isn't very proud of his followers.
If you don't like drawings of your prophet, don't look at them or make them. While I can agree that what's going on is probably disrespectful, people are not just going to stand by while religious zealots (of any flavor) make death threats over silly cartoons, and yes, it IS freedom of speech/expression. And you, or anyone else, have no right to take it away from anyone just because you don't like what they have to say. FB is an international community of individuals. Some of those individuals will have similar opinions to yours, some won't. Stick with the people you like, and leave everyone else alone.
Everyone does not agree with your religion, nor do they need to. When people get that through their heads, there will be a lot more peace in the world.
And yet, if I were to care about your opinion, I would feel quite insulted by you. I choose not to respond in an unkind way, but your entire premise is predicated on the fact that your feelings about the issue are more important than mine.
Happily, I will take no further action on my feelings of being insulted, because my honor and action is not impacted by your opinion.
So, here's the dilemma you've attempted to put me in:
1. I either have to care what you think and, and therefore feel insulted by you.
2. I have to not care what you think, and disregard your feelings entirely, thus "proving" to you that I am uncaring.
This is not fair to me. After carefully considering my options, I choose to ignore this insult to me and my country and have decided that your opinion on this issue is irrelevant.
You may feel how you wish about what I feel, or ignore me entirely, and even threaten to kill my family ... but your opinion will not impact mine.
Insulting people is rude, not illegal, and you don't have the right to stop people from doing it; people CERTAINLY don't have the right to threaten or harm people over it. I find it very interesting that you have nothing to say about the violent threats written on behalf of your religion to the idiots who make South Park. Insults are disrespectful, but threats and violence are WAY out of line. Don't you realize that by doing what you're doing, you're actually just giving the disrespectful people more ammunition? Just ignore their petty and ridiculous attempts to tear down your religion and enjoy your faith. If you know the truth, then a bunch of children's drawings aren't going to change that.
You do, however, have the right to leave people alone who offend you, to boycott their work/businesses/etc., and to peacefully spread your opinions in any public forum.
We are NOT all Muslim, and we're not going to be; that means we do not all have to follow the rules of that religion; if you choose to do so that's you putting rules on YOUR life, not mine or anyone else's. Get over it.
It wasn't facebook, errum, it's just a page on facebook. I am familiar with what you're referring to, and facebook has no legal or moral justification in trying to stop it if they wanted to.
It isn't just your mohammed. The extremist christians cry about cartoons of their jesus as well. In fact I heard recently that the cartoon channel is considering a TV-based cartoon about Jesus.
It isn't christians doing this to mohammed or to islam, it's just people who find religion ridiculous and so ridicule it. I guess wherever you come from people aren't allowed to speak such thoughts, but irreverance is very common in free countries.
facebook had supported this kindda activity, did u forgot tht facebook had celebrated the " everyday mohommad's cartoon draw" or tht kind of another name.
i dont know tht rather christians r involved in it or not, but im sure tht behind this, there is a jewish hand... i know tht making cartoons of prophets or God is not a serious thing in free countries but its quite bad , u know how some ppl r insulting God, jesus, mohommad,moses.. so i think cartoonism of them should b stop..
Clearly you're delusional. I'll probably get banned for saying so, but your paranoia about jews is just a symptom of your religious persuasion.
They're just skeptics, and the only reason they started that page is because of how unreasonably angry muslims got over that swedish cartoonist. Tried to kill him for it, didn't ya'll? See we don't find that to be freedom or peaceful.
These aren't jews. They're just sane people fighting back against the insanity of the religious extreme.
Yeh N. Ramius has it right. I guess the mohammed cartoons list I subscribed to was a different, earlier one. I went to try and find anything about facebook themselves supporting the pages and read the whole story. Basically same principles, someone said something muslims didn't like, they made threats and freedom lovers reacted. Only in this latest case the "freedom lover" chickened out, more or less.
Good job Islam!
At any rate, facebook can't legally act against it, and unless you have proof that Norris or Sulpovar are Jews, it isn't a jewish conspiracy either.
To be honest; If a Muslam is offended by a cartoon? it is their own ego that is offended. If this is upsetting to Ala? is he not capable of serving out his own retributions? If he takes no action; he is not offended very much?
If He is God? he does not NEED for anyone to defend him. If he is not? he does not NEED for anyone to defend him. Are we gods protector? certainly not. If it is you that is offended? welcome to the club. Everyone is offended about something.
As my grandaughter once told me ... build a bridge and get over it.
And do not insult/abuse/defame those who call from other than God, so they insult/abuse/defame God, transgression/violation without knowledge, like that We decorated/beautified to every nation/generation their work , then to their Lord (is) their return, so He informs them with what they were making/doing .
This kinda reminds me of my grade school days. I was teased an awful lot. Kids made all sorts of hurtful cartoons of me with like stink lines and flies and such. Somehow I managed to get over it and move on, I guess I grew up (NOOOOOOO!). Let us pray that someday God and the prophets will also grow up and get over it. I seriously doubt that Mohammad is going to be murdered (in heaven, with the other prophets) by some hater because of a silly cartoon. Then again I am probably damned to hell for this post, not that I wasn't already for being a free thinker.
my post to mark; " ah well, my parents had taught me abt how to respect, and result is fantastic, give me a post where i had insulted jesus, marry or moses or any other most respectfull person, u know."
It is your right to respect whatever you choose. It is not your right to tell others what to respect. Seriously how dare you even presume to suggest that because you have chosen to follow these particular teachings that the rest of us must follow suit. Have you not been paying attention? America is a free country and as such I tend to take anyone trying to take that away as threatening. But I guess that is what your cult teaches you.
Are you talking about the terrorist Muslims who attempt to injure others by placing bombs in crowded city streets and office buildings, crash airplanes into buildings full of thousands of men, women, and children? (Who by the way should be hung out to dry but instead are given a "fair trial" along with receiving better treatment than they do in their own countries.)
Or are you talking about the rest of the Muslim population in our country who continue to live the American dream, owning houses, cars, couches, and flat screen televisions, eating three square meals a day, working in or owning business, serving in the military, sucking off the welfare system, having fat little kids who are addicted to McDonalds cheese burgers, getting college educations, cheating on their spouses, paying their taxes, driving their kids to soccer practice, smoking dope, and spending their weekends praying in one of the 1462 mosques we have?
Since when is getting a good lawyer a right? WTF is wrong with people. I will tell you one thing......you F... with Matt and Trey (southpark) and you will have the biggest army of pissed off slackers and stoners going up to go kick some Muslim butt!!
A lawyer, a basic attorney. The top attorneys do not work as public defenders. Besides, I thought that we were talking about how bad the US and our culture are? Is we were in MUCH of the muslim world you would be dead before you got an attorney...or in prison for life, or beat, stoned or have parts of you cut off.
All i found here are just nagative persons, who even dont think a litttle bit positive. oh thts why people call "europe" as "advanced", surely ur country is advanced but ur minds not, u r much more close minded than afghans, u people r such a nagative minds, thanks Allah! who didn't made me a western person or i would b known as most hatefull person in world..
and ur blind sayings abt MY MOHOMMAD(PBUH), will not affect him or he would not be get angry bcuz Allah is his guard, And Allah is no fool, have a challenge; in teh last stagesof ur life when angel of death will be taking ur sinner soul than u will accept islam, but ALAS! this act cannot save u from hell bcuz no any faith is accepted at there... can u accept this challenge?? smiley
The beauty of it all is, we don't care what you believe in a good way. Believe away! Just don't try to make us fall in line with your beliefs. And when your brothers in Islam want to use violence to scare us into following those beliefs, that only makes those of us that don't share your beliefs that much more negative.
Can you say hypocrite? What in the world is a "Peaceful Muslim" doing attacking anyone. why have you even started this silliness unless it was to insight discord? That is the trouble with all organized religion. Do as I say but not as I do. You folks can not even live up to the "peaceful" part of your own teachings why in the world would anyone consider any other part of it as anything other than the joke it is.
You really are going overboard with this now. Don't you realize that it's because of this so called 'free society' that you're even allowed to voice your views here - and not get publicly flogged for them!
I was myself raised in an islamic country and it's thinking like yours that gives all muslims a bad name... how truly unispiring and shameful really...
And in case you're thinking of declaring 'jihad' on us here, make sure the bomb blows up some place safe and deserted...!
I'm seriously fed up of mulims trying to stuff their version of Islam down our throats! I've seen it all happen with my own eyes in Pakistan, which used to be a sane developing country till these mad Taliban took over. Now everyone is sick of them, the country is in an economic mess and the Taliban are blowing up children and innocent people everyday in the cities...! So much misery created all in the name of orthodox Islam....!
Errum we celebrate freedom of expression here. Freedom of thought, freedom of doubt, freedom of religion, speech and sketch.
Some of us 'blaspheme' against all the old false gods and prophets. It's our right to do so. Don't take it personally. Humanity -when not oppressed- has been testing the gods forever, and will continue to do so.
You have the right to believe whatever you want, and to practice whatever you want however you want, as long as it doesn't bring harm to others. We welcome you here. We fighting this assault on free speech are largely the same Americans who will fight against assaults on foreigners in America, who will fight against dsicrimination against minorities, who will fight for woman's rights.
Don't expect us to stop fighting ignorance and error when it comes to your own. Religion doesn't get a free pass.
And yeah Errum, I probably shouldn't have said that about my parents. It may be seen as disrespectful to all the people -here and there and elsewhere- who have lost their parents or other loved ones to Muslim extremists.
If it offends Muslims, why doesn't every Muslim on Facebook delete their account all on one day? Just pick and day and leave en mass. Wouldn't that send a message to the FB powers that be? Or has a mass exodus already been suggested? I know if a site angers me, I just leave.
NONE of the moderate muslims i know plan to do that. I hope on the other hand, they're saved from Islamic fanatics who have nothing better to do than channelize all their energies into declaring jihad against one thing or the other!
Edit: thx OG...But i think there is no point arguing here as it's really like hitting against a brick wall....
u r right..many of my muslim friends are ignoring that page but are using facebook..they have huge network in facebook and they can't just delete their own accounts for sake of one page..i think facebook might loose some accounts but gradually they would get that back again...
I find it interesting that this topic has not been over run by the patriotic far left liberals who are intent on creating weakness in the United States of America that will allow the undertones of threat in this person's topic and subsequent posts to one day undermine the USA.
Where are they? Are they frightened? Don't have the balls to trash and confront Islam as they do Christianity in the USA? Ha Ha.
"On Wednesday a Pakistani court ordered internet service providers to block customers from Facebook. The following day, most also lost access to Wikipedia, YouTube and more than 450 websites that referred to the online contest."
tht thing which u r calling as "FREEDOM OF SPEECH", is just insult n nothing else, thing which can hurt billions of ppl is not b mentioned in freedom of speech, muslims had never insulted ur jesus, marry, moses, kishna or s/one else, i know y r u doing this all, bcu u know tht muslims love thier prophet Mohommd(pbuh) so much and its very sensitive thing of muslims, now just imagine if s/body had insulted ur mother abusing her in all world then surely u will get angry u will beat tht person and abuse him as much u can do, our mohommad(pbuh) is much gr8 thn our mother, father, property... mohommad(pbuh)is our love, our life, our heart, our identity, our world, our respect, our heaven so now u know y it hurts us when s/body insult him....
u know wat, ur ths kind of act cannot affect his gr8 status, but non muslims will b curious to know ht y muslims r getting so emotional by tht, y these ppl r so different frm others, y v dont get angry by insut of our God, y only muslims? n atlast they will me to know the islam, the gr8 religion of this world, the gr8 truth of this world.... Mohommad(pbuh) was the gr8 man of this world, he is and he will be... no matter watever u can do bad for him.....he's GREaT man, the most loving person in this world n the most beloved one..
Plenty of people put Jesus, Moses, Krishna, and all the others down. Haven't you paid attention to the argument between atheists and Christians? How many other kinds of believers do you see threatening violence against others for it? Some, I'll admit, but not many - and they are just as ridiculous, over-zealous, controlling, and insulting as the Muslim people who do so. Your tacit support of said violence speaks volumes.
If YOU love the Prophet, you are free to love him. Others do not, and you cannot make them love him or respect him - especially with words and actions that condone violence.
The word, Taqiyya, literally means, (Concealing, precaution, guarding). It is used by all Muslims in disguising one's belief, feelings, convictions,or ideas, opinions ,intent or strategy.
In others words... they act like a leant leftist in America.
All with the intent to advance Islam by force or other-wise, against all others, and into a place of rulership in all nations around the world. Till all proclaim allah the one true god an momo his prophet.
In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying and deceiving, vexing, confounding with the intent of deflecting attention or confusing and making thier Islam look peaceable and innocent
Or it can be employed for pre-emptive blocking of conflict and resistance to Islam, or Islamic Shari'a. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralizing any criticism of Islam or Muslims.
And it works so great it isn't funny...
What was it PT Barnum said about someone born every second?
We do not owe you anything! if you are unhappy with facebook do not turn it on OR go over there and vent your anger. Your religion is yours and you are welcome to it but the fact is you people make yourselves very large targets because you have no tolerance for others.
Who flew planes into the twin towers and the pentagon on 9-11 sure as crap was not the Americans. but oh yeah we didnt just sit back and wait for it to happen the second time so we are wrong. Big bad bully America right?
Isn't it ironic that muslim extremists -who try to impose their extreme, fundamentalists beliefs on everyone such as is attempting to be done here- used social networking sites like Facebook to stay in touch, disseminate their message of violence and hate, gain support, and plot terrorist attacks?
Well they banned facebook, hollar and complain about us offending them through our pictures, and yet their fundamentalists use the same medium -social networking sites- to plot to kill us. Not to draw pictures of Jesus or whatever -which wouldn't bother most of us in the least no matter how disrespectful the images were- but to kill us. Not to hurt our feelings, or make fun of our beliefs, but to kill us.
Another touch of irony, they're mad at us for 'disrespecting' the very man who commanded and inspires them to kill us. They want us to respect the image of him who commanded our conversion or our deaths.
Kinda weird. And for the record I pick on most modern religions. The only religions I like are the dead ones.
By the way the facebook page was only down for less than twelve hours, and by one of the page moderator's action. This was due to death threats and a hacker. Facebook actually helped them to restore the site, as I'm sure they would have assisted any of their account holders.
Did you spend the last 2 years telling him that you were going to heaven and he was going to burn in hell for all eternity and that he was unable to be a moral person because he did not believe in an invisible super being like wot u do?
Usually we don't go in for death threats like you Mormons do.
One of my friends was telling me about the Mormon love of joining the military to get free health care for the children they cannot afford but are required to have because god sez so.
Was it about that? Did he feel you were being selfish by breeding incessantly and using up our shared resources? A lot of people get upset about that.
Or were you just plain condescending all the time? That is pretty annoying. Not sure I would threaten you with death over it though.
It does tell you in the bible this will happen. I know you are not a real christian but I think it applies. This is what the bible sez:
1. Go around being holier than thou and spouting nonsense about how much better and more tolerant you are than anyone else. 2. People hate it when you preach this garbage. 3. People will hate you for doing so.
Why not they train few hackers to hack facebook, orkut ? that way they can teach the world about how tolerant islam is. I support decision of restricting facebook, they helped this world by filtering crap thoughts of islam from spreading on the internet.
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