Is suicide a sin?
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Guarantee to go to Hell which does not exist
And please do not lessen the tremendous illness of suicide by mocking it with some disrespectful statement.
I am flagging this thread so here, take my hand and walk with me to nowhere, I'm happy to take you there, wait that is not fair, since I disrespect your already clearly about somewhere. Yes.
I will add then shut up with no sarcasm welcome to hubpages, hope you give us a hub soon, you hub I'll read
But dude, not this concept, OK?
I wasn't serious about reporting just pissed off
But we're cool now,
By the way I am Kimberly
I'm sure your thrilled.
Cheers.
Carry on. Nothing really matters when the day is done.
Hi Daniel, miss ya
With an answer.
It's just a question based on religious beliefs as to what happens to people who commit suicide.
Religious beliefs.
No, your god does, doesn't he?You're the one who brought it up and now won't answer a question about it. Is there some reason why you went into great detail about it and now say it's not relevant? Were you just seeking to get attention or something? Seems very odd.
But, if that's going to be your attitude, then I won't ask you about it anymore. I'll just assume from now on you're saying things just to get attention.
prettydarkhorse, I don't want to offend, but as a true christian who reads the Bible, then you would know that their is indeed an afterlife. Just a fact of true knowledge.
John 14
1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
There is an afterlife.
@ snagerries. I am so sorry if yo9u have been thinking of committing suicide. This is hard thing to deal with, and many people struggle with the thoughts. I stuggled a while back with them , but I know that suicide won't fix the problems or make them better. Hang on and know that if you reach out for help, it will be there. Suicide is a sin against yourself and God, because you were made in His image. He loves you very much, and wants to have a relationsip with you. Suicide only hurts, it never heals.
God shows mercy and grace to you every day, by giving you a chance to have a real and loving relationship with the One that created you. Once you make a choice, the consequences for that are irreversible. He doesn't want you to go to hell, snagerries. He wants you in heaven. But life is such a precious thing to throw away, murdering yourself isn't the answer. Read in the Bible, I remember when I was having thoughts of suicide that I had to remember that it wouldn't help, it would only hurt, how it would affect others, where I would go when I die, and who I am in Christ.
If someone you knew has committed suicide, again, I am deeply sorry. Again, it was their choice. As for the mental dissabilities argument, only God knows how to handle that, but people, no matter the brain activity, know if they are trying to kill themselves. they always have a choice. I chose not to. nothing is that bad as to throw the gift of life back at the creator. Blame evil for the way things are, but please don't get mad at God. Freewill is the other gift, on choice. It's up to you. I would encourage you to read the Bible, pray and get counseling if you are struggling with these thoughts or the death of someone you knew. It will help.
(for those who don't share my beliefs, please don't go and flame me for sharing what I believe. She asked, I answered. It's not intolerant to state what you believe. what is intolerant is to not allow someone to speak what they believe. Thank you.No no my friend.. I am very happy person on this earth and I started this thread just to know people's thought on this. I dont want to commit suicide
Then where will my hubpages account go hehe 
Hey - I am not flaming you - but there is a biiiiig difference between "a fact of true knowledge" and "what you believe".
You believe it - fine. Kudos to you. That does not make it true knowledge or fact. It is in fact - baseless, irrational belief - nothing more.
And she did not ask. She stated her belief and you corrected her by telling her she is wrong - as a "true Christian" reads the bible.
when I was referring to the "she asked", Mark, the she I was referring to was Snagerries. but that's all right. and since prettydarkhorse says she is christian then I can show her how what she says she believs is not backed up in the Bible.
and I understand why you responded, and it's okay. I exspect it. But just as I said that it is true knowledge, you just told me that it is an irrational belief. I believe (know) your wrong, but that's me. and it's everyone's choice on what they believe. I just choose to tell it like it is, just like you. Course we can round and round abou this, but then that would like hijacking the thread, and that's not ethical, no matter what you believe. Thanks Mark.Oh - my pleasure - I certainly understand why you need to fool your self that "true knowledge" and "facts" are the same as "what you believe" - It just makes reasonable conversation impossible.
The incontrovertible facts of the matter is that there is no heaven or hell. These are proven facts.
In any case - you are the one hijacking the thread - again. And then telling me not to. True Christian? Yup - sure looks like it. Not very ethical is it? To jump in and share your irrational beliefs instead of dealing with the original question about suicides going to hell?
ciaoPardon me, Mark, for taking so long to reply. I was not hijacking the thread to simply respond to her original question. Seems like your the only one that had a problem with it. thank you.
hehe..
LOLOLOLOL
So - u agree - believers who kill themselves go to hell - unless they repent mid way through? Which is 98% never happened, as proven by FAITH!
And as no one has ever come back from hell you accept this by FAITH!
Wow! only 2% of Christian suicides go to heaven - the rest are burning in eternal pain. Wot a luvin god.
LOL
So - you are qualified to cast the people that think your beliefs are garbage into eternal torment?
How very Christian of you.
No morals. None.
Sheeple.
I still think reckless self endangerment is the way to go. Of course - you might enjoy it enough to want to start living again.
That is the risk.Angry, suicidal drug addicts who spread AIDS knowingly. You mean like that?
Yeah, it's out there, all right. So completely and utterly sad. Life could be so much more. Trouble is, that when some of these people live through it, the damage is already done and then they get to live the life of regret.No - I was more thinking about helping our Christian cousins avoid the eternal damnation thing.
People who kill themselves have obviously had enough. Why is that selfish?I'm not sure there's help for that, Mark. They are all sending each other to hell already. I'm sure God is good with that, because they each claim to know what he wants...
Really? How incredibly condescending of you. How was the blindfolded, mono wheeling, tight roping over rocky, shark infested water with the intention of killing yourself and fooling the invisible Super Daddy?
My personal preferences were 165 mph around Donnington Park, or 60 mph down Mont Ventoux. But - you probably wouldn't understand unless you have the balls I have..
Dear me. Religionists huh? Jokes. Do you speak it?
- WizardOfOzposted 13 years ago
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- Uma07posted 13 years ago0
According to the religionist's book - the bible, suicide is indeed a mortal sin for all believers.
Suicide is murder. Self murder. All murderers go to hell.
"no murderer has eternal life abiding in him" 1 Jn. 3:15
So any Christian that commits self murder (and of course you cannot repent and be forgiven if you are dead) burns in hell for all eternity.
Reckless self endangerment seems to be the best approach.No Christian would do that - so that is fine.
Thats very fine Mark.
(But who is a Christian? 'born' 'reborn' 'converted' etc etc etc?)No idea. They all say they are the real Christians and all the others are lying.
Your guess is as good as mine.
The best yet
What barriers? All are equal.
That's exactly what I mean SS.
One thing I am sure of is, god isn't here at this forum
He can't fit
hehe yaa.. Crawling/indexing other threads
Um, clearly, but NO believer that I know would ever believe that nor say it. Like God, checks out when someone sulks.
cool theory dude. Nice. Good Times
- kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago0
- kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago0
Must go to nowhere, too many tears But, a person who commits suicide accepted their position and the consequence that put them into that position, and has no hope left to drive them forward. So, it thus becomes their only option.
The strength required to do it is a lot, trust me, I know. I've tried several time, many moons ago.Twenty One Days, I understand what you are saying, but the only reason I am living today is because of a deep-seeded understanding of Integrity, for which, I attribute to my not being able to take my own life.
Those who live without it, have nothing preventing them from doing it, but taking a life is very difficult, especially when it is your own.I believe you hit the proverbial nail on the head: integrity.
Misty, you are very right about the difficulty in taking one's own life.
In most cases, yes people leave behind others that do care about them, and most of the time people who do commit suicide, do so without much of family to notice or be aware of the signs, for which, bring it(suicide) into play in someone consciousness.
The people in the position that this person is in, is very difficult and you are correct, there are not enough resources available to give him the proper treatment or assistance he needs. The kind of help he requires is and has never been available in America or much place else.
It's unfortunate, I spent my earlier years deeply researching, reading and studying religion, and had I not, then my business would already be global(instead of still being developed).
I find it appalling that the police took his car, because he was sleeping it. I mean, it would have been better to let me keep it than putting him directly onto the street. They(the police) have made the pressure, possibly too much for him to shoulder, at this point. Their actions will be a direct cause for what he does next. I am going to make a suggestion and it might seem completely off the wall, but it might be in his best interest or completely do him in. I guess that would completely depend on him and his present emotional status, for which, I do not know. However, my suggestion is to tell him to commit a crime. Not harm anyone, but a crime that would at least put him in prison, after which, he can determine what to do from there on out. At least he won't be on the streets, and get the feeling of walking out in front of car to end his life, which would emotionally devastate someone else.
The only reason I even suggested the option I have, is from the realization of some of the homeless in my area, have began committing crimes, stupid stuff, just so they can take a shower, have a place to sleep and get food. It is pathetic that there are not enough resources to account for the problem, but then again, the problem isn't being addressed in the manner, in which, it should be handle.
I'm leaving your reference to "god" alone, so as to not upset you anymore than you already are.It's his only option, other than what he is thinking. At least if he is in prison, then he has more than a 50/50 shot at changing his life around.
The other option gives him zero chance to recover. I'm not much on the suggestion either, but it's more positive than what's being contemplated.
I'm glad I could help.You certainly have, thanks
Hey Misty,
I think ZZron was addressing the main thread topic and not your dilemma.Good point, it is easy to lose track of the original question once a thread gets this long, thanks for pointing that out Cags
- wademcmasterposted 13 years ago0
This makes no sense. The bible clearly states that murderers do not get the eternal life deal. You cannot ask repentance when you are dead. It is too late by then. So any one who murders them self (commits suicide) is going to burn in hell for all eternity, according to your bible - not the version you just made up.
I am def going to hell though - because I do not believe The Nonsense, and I have spoken against the Holy Spirit - in fact - I deny it's very existence - and that is an unforgivable sin. So I do not get to hang out with all the Christian child rapers, adulterers and murderers who repented.
Woe is me.I'll save you a seat by the fire. Oh wait...................
That's fine. I'm a pretty good cook. I've worked in very hot kitchens for a while now...
But please bring some weenies and marshmallows. They're everywhere, so you shouldn't have trouble getting to them...To the above: Guys--That's funny!
LOL - I like your new religion, but - a problem shared is a problem shared.
It is a sin as life is god's precious gift and should not be ended. Life is pretty short so enjoy every moment info bucket
- Medkh9posted 13 years ago0
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