Hearing the voice of God

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   the clean lifeposted 13 years ago

   Have you ever heard the voice of God and if so what was spoken to you?

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      We would first have to know what the voice of god sounds like to know he spoke. Does anyone really know that?

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         the clean lifeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Beelzedad, it is hard to explain, but I wrote a Hub called A life changing Whisper and I try to explain exactly what I heard. I would imagine that each person would hear differently.

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Then, they are not hearing the voice of a god, but instead the voice inside their head, just like everyone else.

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               Electric Feelposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Honk if you love Jesus. Text while driving if you want to meet Him.

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               wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               "My sheep shall know my voice." Listen to every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God and obey." Beelzedad, you either seek to be One who believes and shall hear God's voice or you can remain totally deaf and blind to the workings of the Spirit of God.

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         Kimberly Bunchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The smart a** at it again! Though this time spills forth truth instead of so much discrimination.
         
         When I hear spirit speak sometimes I can't distinguish always whose telling me the information so I call them spirit. Unless I know first hand who it is. Like if it is my spirit guide. Or some other spirit.
         
         Hope that helps!
         
         

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            There's really no need to be insulting just because you pretend to have special powers when you most certainly don't.

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               mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Because you dont have any special gifts or rather haven't yet come across  them as yet doesn't mean no one else doesn't.

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               mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Beelzedad-WHY DO YOU INSIST ON ABUSING ALBERT EINSTEN?
               After showing yo he doesn't like atheists misquoting him in their favor you still use his picture and air your views
               What is wrong with you?  Why do you have to keep abusing Einstein?
               He was a great man and doesn't deserve to be abused, please stop this non sense.

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      stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I was praying for my husband to be saved and I would hear a voice say  "You won't have him long after he is saved."  I would hesitate because I didn't want to lose him, but then I would think how his eternity was more important than here, now.  Then I would continue praying.  There was quite a few times that happened, I would here that I wouldn't have him long after he is saved.  My husband was saved in March 1998 and past away in June 1998.

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         paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hi friend  stilljustwonderin
         
         One can have an experience or two like this if the Creator-God Allah YHWH wills; but the Converse like a friend talks with a friend happens only to the Messengers Prophets of the Creator-God Allah YHWH like He talked with Moses or with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- the Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi. He mentions it in many a books written by him in this connection.
         
         Thanks
         
         I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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            stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            News Flash, it happens to us every day people too  God will talk to any one, ya just have to listen.  I know for a fact that was said to me as I prayed, and just like he told me, I didn't have my husband long after he was saved.    Maybe you don't have a close relationship with your God, but some people do.  Jesus is our friend.  Friends some times talk.

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               paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Hi friend  stilljustwonderin
               
               Jesus died a natuarl and peaceful death in Kashmir, India and is buried there. He cannot talk to anybody. Sorry.
               
               Thanks
               
               I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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                  stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  No he didn't.

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                     wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Please reveal to me the place that Jesus is buried if you can?

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                  the pink umbrellaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  "i am an Ahmadi Muslim, and im always right, and i have all of the answers. I am a huge a$$hole"

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                     themistposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Haha, paarsurrey, Jesus did not die in Kashmir?
                     
                     According to Islam, Jesus was taken into heaven alive. Get your facts straight...

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                        klarawieckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Kashmir by Led Zeppelin - what a great song! Sorry guys... I have ADHD!

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      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I keep talking to god.

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      kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I hear the voice of God every single day in every single situation
      
      He always speaks Truth.

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      schoolgirlforrealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      To Jesus Heart All Burning
      To Jesus Heart all Burning
      
      With fervent love for men
      
      My heart with fondest yearning
      
      shall raise the joyful strain
      
      
      
      Chorus
      
      While ages course along
      
      Blest be with loudest song
      
      The Sacred Heart of Jesus
      
      By ev'ry heart and tongue
      
      The Sacred Heart of Jesus
      
      By ev'ry heart and tongue.
      
      
      
      O Heart for me on fire
      
      With love no man can speak
      
      My yet untold desire
      
      God gives me for Thy sake
      
      
      
      True I have forsaken
      
      Thy flock by wilful sin
      
      Yet now let me be taken
      
      Back to Thy fold again
      Cor Jesu Salus In Te Sperantium
      Cor Jesu salus in te sperantium miserere nobis
      
      Cor Jesu spes in te morientium miserere nobis
      
      Cor Jesu deliciae sanctorum omnium
      
      Miserere miserere nobis
      8096
      8096

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   WryLiltposted 13 years ago

   When I was a child (maybe 8) I was visiting some friends who had eight children. I was sent to find the young boys for lunch. I was running all over their large farm searching and I remember a voice telling me as clear as day "Go to the dam." I went there and the boys (aged under six) were attempting to take a tinny out into the dam. They couldn't swim. I shudder to think what could have happened.
   
   I am not a christian. So I don't claim it was god. But I do know something sent me to the dam that day...

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      paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend WryLilt
      
      The Creator-God Allah YHWH could talk to anyone so that one knows that He can talk to; being a Christian is not essential; they are mythical.
      
      Thanks
      
      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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         luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Think Allah would speak in Arabic with a nasal voice?
         
         Or would he speak like God in The Ten Comandment's...Kinda deep and profound.
         
         
         "YOU CHRISTIANS AND PAGANS ARE IN FOR IT!"
         
         

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            LeenaHamonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Listening is very important in gaining awareness of God's message. It is common practice among faithful people to praise God and pray for ourselves and others. However, just being with God in the stillness of prayer, and listening, often will result in an idea, or a moment of clarity which is a gift from God that validates awareness of his presence and love for us.

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               luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Well said and this stillness and listening can be achieved if you believe in religion or not. 
               
               Many are convinced it's revelation while some chock it up to imagination.
               
               Faith is the dividing feature between imagination and revelation for all who believe in a Universal Being.

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            wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You have been looking at the wrong Christians; the Christian is Jesus.

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      Pratonixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, WryLilt, whatever you might think. That was God intervening in your life.

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   TruthDebaterposted 13 years ago

   How many people in history have lied and manipulated by claiming they were/are prophet of God? If anyone could truly hear voices from a supernatural being, why would the supernatural being expect anyone to believe them considering all the ones who lied in the past? If you hear voices, but see no figure or person, how do you know it's not evil spirits trying to make you think they are God? I think people making the claims without evidence to hear from God are simply manipulating to bring people to their beliefs and religion.

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      luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      One good sign would be if they told you to - "KILL EM ALL" but I see your point; however if the voice told you to "LOVE PUPPIES" probably not evil.
      I know I've oversimplified...you get the point.
      
      Teri

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         TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks.
         lol @ love puppies.
         I think it's interesting that we usually can't trust a person we can see, but many trust so easily in voices they hear or pretend to hear. What if the voices first started out good, then turned evil from love puppies to kill puppies? The puppies could be used for manipulation letting the puppy killer in. The only way I would trust some voices of someone I couldn't see is if the future was predicted and if magical acts were performed. Still then, besides me, who would believe me?

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            luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Here's where that little voice called  consciences would come into play. So we have to listen to that voice and trust it as well.
            
            If the voice has gone from saying love puppies to kill puppies. Mr. Conscience comes in and says wait a sec...kill puppies that's demons.
            
            There are many who'd believe you Truth...if they'd believe Charles Manson and Jim Jones...why not you?   

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               TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks. If someone were to completely submit to the voices when it challenged their consciences to believe, why wouldn't they listen to the voices that tell them to do bad? In the movie "Frailty", killing was taught, but it was demons. How does the person know that the bad voices aren't for a good cause? This is starting to make my head hurt. lol
               I think CM and JJ are excellent examples of why not to believe people that claim to hear voices. I think they also show by their followers that once a person submits their minds, their consciences sometimes become the leaders to manipulate.

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                  luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  The fact that you know to distinguish between a bad voice and a good voice answers that question. There are many who say "the voices told me to do it" as a defense for lapse in Judgement.
                  
                  If someone says the voice told me to tell YOU...to kill puppies, suspect foul spirits. If we become afraid of our own inner voices be they God or conscience...we go through life looking for another voice to believe. Therein lies the power of the cult.

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                     TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks. Because you or I know, does that mean everyone knows how to distinguish between the two? Conscience isn't the same for everyone, some must turn their conscience off to survive their environment. I wouldn't suspect any kinds of spirits, but I hope you wouldn't tell me to kill any puppies. I agree on the cult, it's power is having people believe others are favored prophets of God as religion teaches. If God spoke to everyone, why does religion do it through prophets? Prophets wouldn't be needed.

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                        luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        I think the conscience is never off...ignored perhaps.
                        
                        I have to admit you have me there on the last point; however perhaps the question should be (In the modern world of special effects and technology,) does God use prophets anymore because of upgrades...Now here me out - would modern-day man listen to someone wearing sack-cloth and eating locusts.
                        
                        Maybe God is upgrading to a better method we've yet to see, or perhaps it's right there in front of us and we just call it Science.

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                           TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Thanks. I sorta agree on conscience, but if it can be reprogrammed, isn't it off of the previous program?
                           You make a good point with science. But science like you, me, and everyone else still falls short of proving for or against a specific God. It seems if a God wanted to be recognized as the same for everyone, they wouldn't make it a puzzle to find them. Since a God hasn't revealed themselves to everyone already, why would they in the future?

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            wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            My sheep shall know my voice. Kill puppies? Anyone knows that this wasn't the voice of God.

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               TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks. Even sheep look around first when they hear a voice to find it's source. This is instinct. Isn't it ironic that many religionists refer to themselves as sheep/animals, yet disagree with evolution? It doesn't sound very empowering to me for people to refer to themselves as sheep, much like you don't think it's empowing to think of humans as apes.

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      stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not trying to manipulate any one.  I answered a question.  I did hear a voice tell me that I wouldn't have my husband long after he is saved.
      Just like the voice told me, it happened.  I am no prophet, just a person who loves God..  If you don't want to believe, that's your choice.  I am no liar.

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         TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks. Sorry to hear about your husband passing.
         I didn't call you a liar, but I think people can create illusions when they want to believe something strongly enough. The bible says a prophet is a messenger of God. If someone claims God has spoken to them, then relays the message to others, wouldn't this make them the messenger?

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            stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Well that was a message I didn't want to hear.  I didn't want to lose my husband, but I did want him to be saved.  The message was for me.  I didn't share it with any one for a long time.  People do have spiritual experiences.  I wrote a hub about one of mine.  I don't know you, don't know if you believe in God, but, with God as my witness everything I said is true.   If I took it personal, it is because my relationship with God is personal.
            Sorry I took your statement wrong.

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               TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks. Again, sorry for your loss. It doesn't matter what I believe in the big picture, only what you believe. I would like to point out that many people have been in times of need, then afterwards being able to say they asked for a Gods help, but didn't see or hear a thing. Was they maybe asking the wrong God? I'm not saying spirits don't exist, but I don't believe in a specific detailed God or God's that I can't honestly prove to myself or others.

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                  stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you, my husband is in a better place.  After he was saved I started praying very hard for him to be healed.  Yes, again I heard a voice say "He'll be healed in Heaven."  I argued with this voice, but, I lost the arguement.  So, prayers aren't always answered the way, or the time, we want them to.  I think most of us pray to the same God, he has many names.  I really can't say, don't know, why I have had some of the dreams that I have had, or heard the voices I have heard.  I just know it is real, I have experienced it.  I understand some one not believing in things they haven't  experienced.   But I can't deny the things that I have.

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                  mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  How can you or anyone else NOT believe there is a God?  I hope the answer is not science.

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                     Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Common sense comes to mind.

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                        mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        And we all know who rules our minds.

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                  wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Believers know the voice of God. My sheep shall know my voice. "It is impossible to please God without faith."

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                     mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     This is a true statement, and if one were to think, he/she would see the truth in this statement.
                     I would explain, but, for us  believers, we know, but for the others, maybe their common sense will kick in.

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                     schoolgirlforrealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgialZi9l2A
                     
                     How Great Thou Art

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            paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The Messenger is the person who has been explicitly selected to continuously receive the messages and deliver to the other people. Just one or some sentences don't qualify one to become a Messenger Prophet; it is done just to taste others that the Creator-God Allah YHWH has not ceased speaking. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messiah in second Coming and Imam Mahdi has written on this subject in detail; one could Google for it, if one is interested.
            
            Thanks
            
            I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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         the pink umbrellaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I am no christian, but i dont think you are lying. Dont listen to those who try and tell you what you really believe is untrue. You know whats true right?

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            stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you.  Yes, I know what is true.  Honesty is very important to me.  If it wasn't true, I wouldn't have said it.

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         Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Had you stopped praying, would your husband still be alive today?

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            luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            What...Beelzedad  she didn't say praying caused her husbands death. If she had stopped praying her husband might not have been saved before his death. Right
            
            Doesn't sound like a benevolent being though have to admit.
            
            

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               the pink umbrellaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Ummmm ha, wow. Thats not what Beelzedad said. hes saying that when she prayed, a voice told her that her husband would be gone not long after he was saved. Weather she heard the voice or not, it was going to happen.

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                  luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Your saying that Beelzedad is asking if she had stopped praying her husband would have died anyway weather she was warned that he wasn't saved so he was saved, but would have died anyway even if she hadn't heard the voice at all. Thanks for clarifiying.

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                     the pink umbrellaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Dont get sarcastic with me, just continue twisteng others words for the benefit of your own inane "points"

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                        luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        I'll get sarcastic with you...speaking of inane points do you have one or feel you should go from thread to thread explaining everyone elses?
                        
                        

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                           the pink umbrellaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Wow, just came back to check on this and discovered what a jackass you are. I was no more explaining someone elses thread to you, than i was pointing out how you were twisting someone elses word around. Whats a matter puss...you dont like to be called out on your b.s.?
                           
                           Im not going to apologise for pointing out what you were trying to do, which is put words in someone elses mouth. Turning something someone else said into something totally different to make them look bad, thereby thinking your making youself look better. Even if they dont notice right away, other people do.

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                              luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Well thanks for clearing all that up for me "MOM"!
                              
                              I can't help what you think...don't be trying to tell me what I think, or what you think everyone else thinks - why don't you keep your thinks to yourself...and a suggestion: You should reconsider tank-tops -a woman your age... simply not flattering. Put some cloths on...your sagging!
                              
                              P.S. Some Unique eb5 Formula for that neck, cheeks and chin.
                              
                              

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               Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               She also didn't mention whether or not she knew her husband was going to die before she heard the voices. Had she known, then I really don't understand her point. And, by the sounds of it, it doesn't seem like she did know, hence my question.

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                  luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  No I get it...the question I have is why the voice, would warn her that her husband would die if he was saved. Instead of telling her..."better get your husband saved, just in case." 
                  
                  As I said, doesn't sound benevolent...because it seems to leave the possibility open that if he wasn't saved he would live.
                  
                  

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                  stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  No, I didn't know.  At that time he was in good health.

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                  schoolgirlforrealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  The Ellen show:
                  
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqRlO3w … re=related

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            stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I prayed for his salvation a few years before he was saved   He had a brain anurism. He survived that for a year but it left him with short term memory loss.  Couldn't remember something for more than 15 minutes.  I thought we would grow old together.  Play with our grand children together.  I just thank God that he was saved before he past.  I still miss him some times, but I know he is in a better place.

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               Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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                  Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  I would disagree that your husband is in a better place, because the best place for him is with you.

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                     luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     So sweet....

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                     stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Thank you.  His brain anurism left him with short term memory loss and daily migraine headaches.  He was in pain just about every day.  He isn't suffering any more.

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                     mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     stilljustwonderin you are correct, he is in a better place and it takes courage to understand this.
                     
                     Beelzedad you have no idea what the better place is about so give it a rest.

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                        Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        The authority has spoken! LOL!

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                           mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           I don't know would be a truthful answer form you.

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                              Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Or you.

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                                 mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 I do know god.,sorry to disappoint you.All poets know god, they work for him.
                                 
                                 You are still using Einstein picture to quote your atheist view, shows your character.Even though I posted his quote stating how much he dislikes this you still use his picture.
                                 
                                 “To show them special mercy, I, dwelling in their hearts, destroy with the shining lamp of knowledge the darkness born of ignorance” (Bhagavad-gita 10.11).
                                 
                                 Meditate.

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                                    Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    The authority has spoken! All hail the authority!  LOL!
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    So sorry your understanding of Einstein is lacking and you have to make up stuff.

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                                       mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."
                                       Albert Einstein
                                       
                                       "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."
                                       Albert Einstein
                                       
                                       "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
                                       
                                       I have posted this quote a few times before yet you don't have the decency to remove Albert Einsteins picture, give the man a break.

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                                          Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          And, you wouldn't have a clue what HE meant by that statement or the statements you quoted. That's the real shame.
                                          
                                          Einstein didn't believe in god in any way, shape or form. He understood his own consciousness to be his view.
                                          
                                          Not to mention, at the time he lived, he refused to deny the existence of a god, but did know and understand that there was no god within the constructs of his own mind.
                                          
                                          But, nice try.

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                                             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                             Agreed. I have had this discussion before about Einstein's beliefs.

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                                          Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          Yes, I know, you continue to dishonestly misrepresent him with your own belief system. And, you talk about decency? 

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                                       mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       Cant you understand his quotes casgil? they are written in simple English.
                                       
                                       "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."

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                                          Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          Again, you're misrepresenting Einstein, because of your biased view that there is a god. So, please.
                                          
                                          Do the research on Einstein, and you would actually realize that he didn't believe in god or even that one existed. DUH!

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                                       mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       Cant you read? Please read before replying blindly.
                                       
                                       "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
                                       Albert Einstein

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                                          Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          Boy you don't get it do you. I can read, it is YOU who does not understand Einstein. DUH!

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                                          Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          Yes, you've posted that before, whereupon I posted the entire quote, which you conveniently left out, in which he explains he is angry with people like YOU for quoting him to support your own views.

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                                       mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       "Two things are infinite human stupidity and this universe and I am not sure about the universe" Albert Einstein

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                     wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Why is with her a better place? You don't think that any other place could possibly be better?

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                     schoolgirlforrealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Beelzedad,
                     I see your post was DELETED.
                     
                     Are you saying mean, Un Christly things?
                     
                     Listen to a nice song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqRlO3w … re=related

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   ediggityposted 13 years ago

   Nope, never heard it, but I have witnessed the results of prayer.

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   themistposted 13 years ago

   Personally, I don't believe God can "talk" to us. I believe if he does want to talk to us, it might be through angels or people. If I actually heard the voice of God, I reckon it'd make me the happiest I've ever been in my life.

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      wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You must believe in God first. My sheep shall know my voice. God can talk to even a rock!

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   2besureposted 13 years ago

   God speaks in many ways.  He has spoken to me through scripture which is the best way to discern His voice.  God does not speak contrary to His word.  He has told me things going on in people's lives, through the Word or Knowledge and spoken through me in a Word of Prophecy.  God is always speaking to us in so many different ways.

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   Onusonusposted 13 years ago

   God has spoken to me several times in such a profound manner that it pierced me to the core, in other instances it has been such as the scripture would say; "a still, small, voice." The profound communications which we experience can be life changing, but it is the smaller every day promptings that shape our faith and enable us to discern the right from the wrong through much experience, trial, and error. It's all about growth, and the building of integrity. The hard part is to do what you are supposed to do when asked to do it.

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   the clean lifeposted 13 years ago

   onusonus, that's what I heard, a still, solf and so gentle voice. It was like a very calm breeze, and so peaceful. A solf whisper.

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      Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That's the one!

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   the clean lifeposted 13 years ago

   Many folks think I'm nuts by what I have said. You know as well as I know it is that experience that you just can't make up just to tell a story.

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      Pratonixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Elijah heard the still small whisper of the Lord.
      
      But sometimes Satan deceives unbelievers into thinking that they have heard the voice of God. Oh, Satan too can play tricks.
      
      If one is truly born again, He will soon learn to hear God speaking (not in an audible whisper, but in a kind of registration on the heart) when he reads God's word, or when he sits in church and hears a man of God speaking.

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    the clean lifeposted 13 years ago

    Believe me it was not satin. I have been a true believer thoughout my life.

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       Pratonixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I have read your testimony, and made some remarks on it. Trust in the Lord (Jesus) with all your heart! He will carry you through.
       
       Try Keswick, Whiting, NJ! A great place to be at.

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Gods don't give answers, men do...... and claim it is from gods.

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       mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Being a twin I am sure you possess telepathy and intuition earnesthub

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          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Interesting observation Mohit. My psychological make up is known to me. I am an intuitive thinking type.

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             mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Intuition is the source or god guiding you.
             Your intuition is beyond the grasp of science or and reason..
             
             You connect with me out of your intuition.
             
             Telepathy is a higher communication method, its how twins connect, people who are close to each other and how entities or god speaks to us.

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       wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       This fall short. God does give answers to anyone who believes and listens to every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. God has the answers for you joy. God can speak to anyone in many, many ways even audiblly.  God can speak to your entire pee size  brain at once.

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    luzagodomposted 13 years ago

    I want to know what the voice of god sounds ,maybe it's sound great.

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       wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Believe, love God, and listen.

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    paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

    Hi friends
    
    The Creator- God Allah YHWH speaks in the following modes:
    
    [42:52] And it is not for a man that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a veil or by sending a messenger to reveal by His command what He pleases. Surely, He is High, Wise.
    [42:53] And thus have We revealed to thee the Word by Our command. Thou didst not know what the Book was, nor what the faith. But We have made it (the revelation) a light, whereby We guide such of Our servants as We please. And truly, thou guidest mankind to the right path,
    [42:54] The path of Allah, to Whom belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. Behold! to Allah do all things return.
    
    http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=51
    
    Thanks
    
    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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    TruthDebaterposted 13 years ago

    One thing I noticed is that I haven't seen anyone claim they heard God, then looked around the room. This is odd to me. When we hear a voice "not self made", our first instinct is to look around the room to see where the voice came from. The people claiming to hear God without looking around, already claiming to know where the voice came from sounds lame and unbelievable to me. This leads me to believe the voices are made by their head. Also, how do you know the voice is God unless they specifically say, "I am God"? Faith?

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       paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Hi friend TruthDebater
       
       You have raised a valid point; when the Cretor-God Allah YHWH spoke with Moses; God introduced to him:
       
       [20:9] Allah — there is no God but He. His are the most beautiful names.
       [20:10] And has the story of Moses come to thee?
       [20:11] When he saw a fire, he said to his family, ‘Tarry ye, I perceive a fire; perhaps I may bring you a brand therefrom or find guidance at the fire.’
       [20:12] And when he came to it, he was called by a voice, ‘O Moses,
       [20:13] ‘Verily, I am thy Lord. So take off thy shoes; for thou art in the sacred Valley of Tuwa.
       [20:14] ‘And I have chosen thee; so hearken to what is revealed.
       [20:15] ‘Verily, I am Allah; there is no God beside Me. So serve Me, and observe Prayer for My remembrance.
       [20:16] ‘Surely, the Hour is coming; I am going to manifest it, that every soul may be recompensed for its endeavour.
       [20:17] ‘So let not him who believes not therein and follows his own evil inclinations, turn thee away therefrom, lest thou perish.
       
       http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=11
       
       Thanks
       
       I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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          TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks. I don't think claims of hearing God from a burning bush is a believable example either. Between the bush and hearing voices without looking to see where they came from, I don't know which is more unbelievable. At least they did use a source for the voice as others claim the source couldn't be seen, only heard. Still, I think the God bush has little to no credibility.

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             paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Hi friend TruthDebater
             
             Please read the link in full. When Moses heard such and intelligent talk and he knew no human around; he got satisfied who talked to him.
             
             Thanks
             
             I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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                TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks.
                
                20:19] قَالَ هِىَ عَصَاىَ‌ۚ اَتَوَكَّؤُا عَلَيْهَا وَاَهُشُّ بِهَا عَلَىٰ غَـنَمِىْ وَلِىَ فِيْهَا مَاٰرِبُ اُخْرٰى‏ 
                [20:19] قَالَ هِىَ عَصَاىَ أَتَوَڪَّؤُاْ عَلَيۡہَا وَأَهُشُّ بِہَا عَلَىٰ غَنَمِى وَلِىَ فِيہَا مَـَٔارِبُ أُخۡرَىٰ 
                [20:19] He replied, ‘This is my rod, I lean on it, and beat down therewith leaves for my sheep, and I have also other uses for it.’
                [20:19] اس نے کہا یہ میرا عصا ہے، میں اس پر سہارا لیتا ہوں اور اس کے ذریعے اپنی بھیڑ بکریوں پر پتے جھاڑتا ہوں اور اس میں میرے لئے اور بھی بہت سے فوائد ہیں۔ 
                
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                [20:20] قَالَ اَلْقِهَا يٰمُوْسٰى‏ 
                [20:20] قَالَ أَلۡقِهَا يَـٰمُوسَىٰ 
                [20:20] He said, ‘Cast it down, O Moses.’
                [20:20] اس نے کہا اسے پھینک دے اے موسیٰ! 
                
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                [20:21] فَاَلْقٰٮهَا فَاِذَا هِىَ حَيَّةٌ تَسْعٰى‏ 
                [20:21] فَأَلۡقَٮٰهَا فَإِذَا هِىَ حَيَّةٌ۬ تَسۡعَىٰ 
                [20:21] So he cast it down, and behold! it was a serpent running.
                [20:21] پس اُس نے اسے پھینک دیا تو اچانک گویا وہ ایک حرکت کرتا ہوا سانپ سا بن گیا۔ 
                
                
                No offense, but I don't think turning a rod into a running serpent is very believable either. That is something I would have to see in person to believe. Sounds more like a fairy tail to capture a persons emotions and imagination.

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                   paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Hi friend
                   
                   God does not make the rod physically a serpent but it look like it; Moses was thus informed that when the magicians would trick the strings look likt snakes; then you use the rod and their magic would be exposed.
                   
                   Thanks

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             Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Hey TruthDebater,
             
             I think what many people do is take it upon faith, because they have nothing else and a limited consciousness.
             
             If half the people did a little research on the subject of human consciousness, and when specifically it came about, then they would realize the truth of the matter.
             
             However, people are lazy.

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                TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Hello, thanks. I think the research is the complicated part, even when effort is put in to understand consciousness. Because there are limited objective truths in defining consciousness, philosophy and religion often take advantage in trying to define it's origin.

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                stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                1 Corinthians 1 verse 21
                For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
                
                I am so thankful I'm not wise!  :-)

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                   Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   

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             wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             God can make a rock talk to you. Why fore you a localize pin size self have placed limits on Infinite God?

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       stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       John 10-27
       My sheep  hear  my voice , and I  know  them , and  they follow  me.
       
       Yeah, it is called faith.
       
       We don't "see" God.  But we see the effects he has and we "feel" him.  I don't see the wind, but I know it is there because I can see the effects of it, and I can feel it.

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          TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks. If the sheep just heard a voice without visual of a sheppard or direction to go, how would they follow anything? The sheep have to see what is speaking to them first.
          I agree you can feel emotional and high with a sense of God or a spiritual experience, but this doesn't give visual evidence that what you believe is correct. This only gives evidence that your belief can determine your emotions, it doesn't give you the original source of emotions.

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             stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             We just know.  It is called faith.  Like I said, I can't see the wind either but when I feel it blowing on my face, I know it is there.
             The "voice" if it is telling ya something wrong, ya know it isn't of God.  It is just something you would have to experience yourself to understand.
             Emotions.  My Hub.  When I was laying on my bed crying uncontrollably and suddenly felt the most intense, joyful love, that didn't come from me.  I was in deep despair.
             Again, it is something you have to experience yourself to understand.  I understand that.  Please understand, it is something we have experienced, so it is real to us.

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          Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I wrestled in high school.  People in the bleachers were always noisy talking to each other and yelling and all kind of carrying on..   But I could always hear my coaches voice above the uproar.   
          But I couldn't hear the voice of the coach of my opponent.

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             TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks. The difference is you could see/prove the source of the voice, "the coach".

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                Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                All it really says is that if ya listen for a particular voice in a crowd you can hear it.
                
                   If that voice means nothing to ya ???   ya caint ... it is lost in the crowd.

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                   TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Thanks. You still know there is a source to the voice, it doesn't come from subjective faith, there is an objective person that is yelling. I'm sure there have been many wrestlers whose coaches voices meant a lot to them, were heard, and still lost the match.

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                      Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Winning or loosing has nothing to do with the VOICE.
                      
                        If ya have no interest in hearing the unknown you will never hear it..  Unless  ...   He wants ya to.
                      
                         Like my grandPa always said.   Ya Gotta Want It First or ya aint ever goina get it.  Unless it is something that ya don't want like a flat tire or the clapse.

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                         TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         Thanks. You could continue on and on with infinite points that still do not give observational proof to something you can't see. Did the voice tell you it was a he or that he only talks to chosen ones? Why would people want to hear voices they can't see or prove as true? Isn't this like wanting to be insane?

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                            stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            There is nothing insane about it.  Maybe one day you will feel God, hear him.  Then you will understand and people will think  your insane.  :-)

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                               TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                               Thanks. If there is something I can't prove to others rather than hearsay, I will probably keep it to myself. No matter what I said how many times I said it, no one would believe it if there was no observational evidence.
                               If you seen a ghost, your one encounter wouldn't be observational evidence that others would believe, even if you heard and saw. You could shoot a video and people would still suspect it's fake. It doesn't become a universal truth until it's made where everyone can see it. Math is a universal unbiased truth. No matter where you are from or what language you speak, 1 + 1 = 2. An unidentified voice from an unknown source does not equal God, especially when it can't be explained as universal. Rather than, "maybe one day when you believe my belief, you will hear".

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                                  paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                  Hi friend TruthDebater
                                  Except our Christian friends who say 1+1+1=1
                                  Trinity is such a Mathematics!
                                  Thanks

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                                     luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                     So much for peaceful Muslim....

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                                     Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                     And, your statement is can be proved.

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                                        luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                        Who me...no Cags, I'm not a peaceful anything I can be a real mesuinu .
                                        
                                        (Hugs)

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                                           Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                           No LuvPassion, I was making reference to proving Paar's ironic 1+1+1=1 equation. But, thank you for the hug.
                                           
                                           
                                           ((((HUG))))

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                                  stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                  I am not here to try to convince any one of anything.  I can't lead some one to God.  Jesus does that.  I answered a question.  I spoke the truth.  There isn't anything I can do about if some one believes me or not.  Until I experienced it myself, I didn't believe it.  People like me, scared me.  So I know a lot of people won't believe it, that doesn't make it false.  I live by faith.  I have had experiences that confirmed my faith.  Nothing will change my mind or my heart.  I stand by what I said.  If you ever experience the things I have, then you will understand.
                                  This is a religious forum.  Your a learned man, you know we walk by faith with no visual proof.  Our faith is spiritual.  So, why are you here if you don't want to hear?

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                                     TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                     Thanks. I didn't say anything was impossible, just improbable. I am just saying you don't have universal proof that skeptics will believe. 
                                     
                                     The universal proof convinces the skeptics, not just the believers.  Proof takes reasonable explanations or observations. No one on the thread has given reasonable proof that can be explained. It is a little difficult to explain something you can't see, no? So we use faith to believe things we can't see, faith doesn't make us right. Besides, not everything a person has faith in is correct, it is the hope they are correct.

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                                        stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                        Are you saying that if the experiences that I have had,  happened to you. that you wouldn't tell any one?  When having the experience, you knew for a fact it happened?  Believe me, when the Holy Ghost comes upon a person, ya want to shout it to the world.  You feel so much intense, incredible love, you just can't keep it to your self.  For you feel that love for every human being you see.  Proof?  You have it in your spirit..
                                        
                                        Matthew 10-33
                                        But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in Heaven.
                                        
                                        He didn't have to tell us not to deny him, because we can't.  We know it is real.  I'm not trying to convince you or any one else.  I just can't lie because others won't believe.

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                                        TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                        Thanks.
                                        That is an impossible question to answer because I am not you and haven't had the same experiences. It depends on all of the variables of whether I could explain the experiences and their cause. There is a difference between believing something happening and explaining how or why it happened. When there is explanation with evidence, then even the skeptic will believe it. Spirit is not proof, there is no observational or testable evidence in defining spirits, only religion and philosophical attempts. In the emotional rewards you mention, why do you think it's different for a person that meditates and finds the same rewards?
                                        
                                        I think the quote only goes to relate with a God. The person that is seen the closest to a God gains the most believers and power.  I never called you a liar, I am just saying it's unlikely proving something without being able to see it.

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                            Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            I don't want to prove anything to anyone.   It is nice though when I can talk with someone else that has had an  experience that we can not prove.
                            
                                Everything about science was once unproven at one time, and was considered to be just a crazy idea.

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                               stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                               Oh come on Jermi.  You know the earth is flat!
                               Love ya brother

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                                  Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                  Love back at cha.   One day science says eggs are bad for ya  and next year they are good again.  Science is subject to change. 
                                  
                                     The sound of "You Were Right" is worth waiting for.

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                                     stilljustwonderinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                     They just don't understand because they haven't had the experiences that we have.  They think we are foolish.
                                     1 Corinthians 1 verse 20
                                     Where is the wise?  Where is the scribe?  Where is the disputer of this world?  Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
                                     
                                     Some day they will see.

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                                        Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                        And someday we will understand.
                                        
                                           A hungry man doesn't need to understand everything about the food that nourishes him.

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                                        TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                        Thanks, I disagree. Haven't you ever watched one of the survivalist shows? There are specific things you can and can't eat. Some keep you alive, some poison or kill you. A person has to be skeptical of what to eat, not whatever looks the best.

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                            wilmiers77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            Nonsense! I and millions of other people have heard God speak to them. This is understood among born again Christians who have received the Holy Spirit. I am sure that you need to start with your salvation in order to really know God.

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                               TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                               Thanks. I predicted this earlier in the thread. "Believe my belief, then God will speak to you". It is quite a luring pick up line with no evidence to show. It is also a good recruiting tool for religions.

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                            exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            when God speaks to someone they know who is speaking, so there is no need to look around,they know his voice

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    http://www.atheistmind.com/
    I will understand if this is not a valid link to you Mohit, and will clearly state it's possible bias as an atheist based site, but the data if pretty right I reckon.

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       mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Hi earnesthub have just gone through it, it states Einstein was not a Christian who believes in a personal god ,but he does believe in God.
       Or a superior intelligence responsible for creating this universe and its laws.

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          Anicholposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          “In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.”
          
          I agree with you Mohit

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             mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks Anichol its so clear.

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          Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Nope, Here's what he says about you:
          
          "“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. "
          
          

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             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Here is the first quote in it's entirety off the page written by  Albert Einstein as Beezledad has recalled correctly.
             
             “It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

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                Anicholposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Hmm
                I thought all the quotes on that link are his
                That last quote would suggest he doesnt believe in a personal god but also doesnt support those ideas that there is no god.

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                   earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   It was a lie sort of says it all, but if you read all of what he said just on that link, it would be very hard to pretend that he is a religionist.

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    paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

    Hearing the voice of God
    
    Hi friends
    
    It is perfectly normal if God talks to somebody.
    
    Thanks
    
    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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