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is religion arrogant?

  1. pisean282311 profile image57
    pisean282311posted 6 years ago

    if we look globally there are so many different religion and barring few , almost all claim that their way and their version is only way , rest are either false way or half baked ways..if one does not follow their prescribed way , he/she is heading for trouble..now you may be good person ..doing great things for yourself and society in general but u wont go to heaven if you dont believe in their prescribed way..is religion arrogant or lacks self belief needing reassurance ?...

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      Anicholposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yes religion is arrogent.
      Mat 7:15-20

    2. leeberttea profile image61
      leebertteaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No religion isn't arrogant, some of the people that practice religion are arrogant. Religion is just a thing so it can't be arrogant. It's a set of beliefs and moral codes of conduct none of which tells believers to be arrogant. What is arrogant is people that attack, ridicule, and criticise others for what they believe, as if they are somehow more knowledgeable or informed on matters beyond the comprehension of the rest of the mere mortals they are forced to share the globe with.

      Beliefs are a personal thing, when one attacks someones' beliefs, they are attacking that person, and further they are trying to force their own beliefs upon the other, implying a superiority over those that don't and won't agree. That is arrogance, not religion.

      1. Pandoras Box profile image82
        Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Why do you remonstrate with nonbelievers for what believers do. I don't shove my beliefs down peoples' throats, I don't attempt to regulate others' morality based on my own, I don't constantly threaten and terrorize others with arrogant threats of a hell.

        You want to pretend that being a christian (in the only way it's ever really meant) doesn't actively involve believing that you are A) better than others for being what you think is wise enough to 'choose to believe', or B) luckier than others in being chosen by god and turned to him through no merit of your own.

        If A) (freewillers) then I am an automatic rejector of goodness and hater of peace and righteousness. That is what a believer (by free will) must inherently think of nonchristians. That just as the christian thinks he/she has chosen the good path, the christian must believe nonchristians have willfully rejected goodness, that we are 'lovers of darkness'. This belief is necessary to maintain their delusion. This twisted but requisite viewpoint of freewilling christians towards nonchristians MUST LEAD TO ARROGANCE.

        If B) (calvinists) then I am an automatic rejectee of goodness, hated by the claimed source of goodness, and incapable of any good or righteousness. Nonchristians are nothing more than examples in contrast to calvinist christians of their god's great favor and gloriousness in choosing those whom he/she/it did choose. People being people, and the regenerative powers of the christian god being as ineffective as we have constantly seen them to be, do ya really think believing you are chosen by a god doesn't lead to some level of arrogance?

        Is religion itself arrogant, well, perhaps that wouldn't be the best way to put it. Yet for those who believe in (most of) these religions, the big 3 and just about everything in between to be sure, those who take on these 'one true god' beliefs, the religion itself, the world view they are adopting, comes inherently with arrogance built in.

        Arrogance. I'm right and everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. I warned them, but they would not believe, so now they have to pay the price. Screw them. I got mine covered.

        There is also -as the OP suggested- a hint of insecurity, though that may be putting it mildly. This no doubt dates back to the beginnings, to the struggles for control from which these religions were born. Not one of them were ever secure enough in their own beliefs -or humble enough in their 'regenerations'- to allow others the right to their own beliefs and opinions. The threat of hell was generally immediate, and still is in some places. Each of the Big 3 formed their religion by threat and by promise, a carrot to lure you in, or a stick to slay you should you decline.

        Why? Think about it.

        Arrogant, and yet also insecure.

        1. leeberttea profile image61
          leebertteaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Where did I accuse YOU of any such behaviour? I said "some people", so if the shoe fits...

          I just don't understand why you became so defensive.

          1. Pandoras Box profile image82
            Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Defensive? I'm just trying to explain. Sorry you seem to have totally missed the point.

            The topic being is religion arrogant, by which I think the OP meant something like was it created in arrogance and does it foster arrogance, and that's where my head is. I don't know what you're talking about, but if that's all you got from my post then you probably shouldn't have wasted your time reading it.

            I tend to speak in a very straight-forward manner. People often mistake my tone of voice.

          2. Liberian1847 profile image59
            Liberian1847posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Leebrata u made a rational point. Arrogance is human nature. We often let our ideologies belief systems bring out the arrogance in us.

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        stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        leebertteaposted 5 days agoin reply to this

        "No religion isn't arrogant, some of the people that practice religion are arrogant. Religion is just a thing so it can't be arrogant. It's a set of beliefs and moral codes of conduct none of which tells believers to be arrogant."

        Terminal unrepentant casual bearing of false witness noted.  The "go forth and make disciples of all nations" is nothing but arrogance.  Its showing abject contempt for your involuntary audience and their culture.

        Those 'moral codes of conduct' have generated much genocide over the course of two millennia.

        "What is arrogant is people that attack, ridicule, and criticise others for what they believe, as if they are somehow more knowledgeable or informed on matters beyond the comprehension of the rest of the mere mortals they are forced to share the globe with."

        Once again such is very Christian an in line with the 'directed mission.'

        "Beliefs are a personal thing, when one attacks someones' beliefs, they are attacking that person, and further they are trying to force their own beliefs upon the other, implying a superiority over those that don't and won't agree. That is arrogance, not religion."

        Christianity once again via said directive.  Oopsies.

      3. Navyman05 profile image61
        Navyman05posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I totally agree with leeberttea religion is not arrogant, because people are arrogant. Religion was brought up by people and every person is flawed. The higher power that being a god or some other being made us to be flawed. He/she wanted to have our own since of thought and make our own choices wither it   be right or wrong. The bible is supposed to be gods word but the bible was created by man. Man printed and binded the good book together. So the human race created what they believed was the words of god into a book called the bible. Like I said humans were meant to be flawed so how are we supposed to know that thous are really the words of god. This is my thought I think that all religions is the right religion. There is no right or wrong when it comes to religion because humans created religion.

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          stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          The "go forth and make disciples of all nations" is nothing but arrogance.  Its showing abject contempt for your involuntary audience and their culture.

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      cosetteposted 6 years ago in reply to this




      no, but some of the members of some religions act like their religion gives them membership in an exclusive club and they act all 'neener-neener' with "non-believers". then again, there are some non-believers who act super arrogant, especially in these forums. sometimes it sickens me to read the way they treat religious people.

    4. Cagsil profile image83
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Religion is a joke. It is the people who practice it that are arrogant. Nothing more, nothing less. smile

      1. Jerami profile image78
        Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You was looking in the mirror when you said that I suspect.

        1. Cagsil profile image83
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Interesting you say that Jerami. And, for your information, no I was not. hmm

          1. Jerami profile image78
            Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I was feeling in a Mood !   I'm bad!   But no kidding, everybody needs to take a good hard look at ourselves once in a while.

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      anything is anything you want it to be. Arrogant?  if I want it to be, not if I don't.

      Is arrogance practicing religion?

      Sorry not feeling ya on this one!

      out

    6. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
      PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yet one may be the leg, another the foot, and yet another the arm.

    7. britneydavidson profile image60
      britneydavidsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No - Religion is not arrogant. But we poeple made it. There is only one religion but we people made it different different religion.

      1. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        and what is that one religion?..does it exist right now?..

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hers of course! lol lol lol

    8. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
      schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No, Did you know K.D. Lang is spiritual? All kinds of people are
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NpxTWb … embedded#!

      A very joyful and pleasant video smile

  2. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
    PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago

    What religion are you talking about? Christianity, music, The Jersey Shore? Which religion?

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      PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Joking of course fyi

  3. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 6 years ago

    Every religion claiming exclusivity is arrogant by definition.

    1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
      PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      American Idol is pretty arrogant.

      1. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol

    2. rebekahELLE profile image91
      rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I think this applies to any belief or concept that begs exclusivity.

      1. habee profile image91
        habeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I agree, Bekah!

      2. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Won't argue with that either. smile

    3. BDazzler profile image84
      BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Of course, but arrogant doesn't mean wrong. (It also doesn't mean right.) I find some of my best friends to be highly arrogant. Arrogant is just one person's way of saying "Your confidence make me feel uncomfortable." to another person. I've seen the same arrogance in non-religion.

      The very act of asking the question can be seen as arrogant by some. (How dare you claim to be greater than god/God/goddess/flying spaghetti monster by questioning if their followers are arrogant!?!)

      Of course it's going to be seen as arrogant by anybody who isn't comfortable with it. 

      Now, the real question is, who sees "arrogance" as a "bad thing", and why?

      1. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        David, I won't go into theological arguments with you, but since you asked - to the best of my knowledge your own holy book calls arrogance a sin. I'll leave it at that. smile

        1. BDazzler profile image84
          BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Not exactly, but I do concede that the line between confidence and arrogant pride is difficult to see even among the theologically trained , but that was my point, in order to call arrogance "bad" you had to turn to religion.  Which puts us in a bit of a paradox.  Which does not make it true or untrue, only amusing. tongue

          1. Misha profile image75
            Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I would appreciate you showing me the exact place where I called it bad tongue

            1. BDazzler profile image84
              BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The exact word was "sin" ... which most people understand to be "bad". tongue

              1. Misha profile image75
                Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                That's not my word, that's your book word. Of course I could use something like "what your book considers as incompatible with proper following of its instructions", but that would certainly complicate the understanding of what I meant, so I decided to go with your book language, may be it was a mistake. tongue

                1. BDazzler profile image84
                  BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  So, if you don't believe in the book, it's not bad.  And so why ask the question?  If a belief system (religious or not) appears to be internally inconsistent, that's different that arrogance.

                  Besides, I'm right, so it's OK for me to be arrogant tongue ...

                  1. Misha profile image75
                    Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this



                    False logic smile


                    I didn't ask a question, I tried to answr it smile



                    Hard to argue with that one smile


                    Absolutely, I never said it is not OK - it was your book that did it tongue

          2. Mark Knowles profile image59
            Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Personally I think "hubristic" is a better description in any case. I am an arrogant so and so myself - but I have good reason. wink

            1. BDazzler profile image84
              BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I'd buy that.

            2. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
              schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              what's your reason?

    4. ceciliabeltran profile image85
      ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      it is people who claim this. there is also a version of this in politics, martial arts, this and that....all people

      religion is a neutral that we project our leanings to.

  4. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
    PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago

    Truth is (being serious now), if a religion is arrogant, then it defeats the purpose of religion which, I believe, is to bring love into the world.

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      stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      PeppermintPaddyposted 5 days ago

      Truth is (being serious now), if a religion is arrogant, then it defeats the purpose of religion which, I believe, is to bring love into the world."

      Then religion is a terminal failure as current events and the Christian historical track record demonstrate-unless the love is that of destruction.

      There have been religions which 'brought love into the world.'  These passive religions were all destroyed by others, including Christianity.

      Bringing 'love into the world' doesn't require a religion.

      1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
        PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Christianity is all about love, that's what Jesus did with his apostles and is the first commandment. Unfortunately, the bible is split into two books...old testament and the new testament (the old testament being before Jesus). While Jesus preached about love, there are stories in the old testament which are a direct contradiction to his teachings and many Christians take these to heart, misinterpret them, or are just plain hypocrites who believe biblical rules apply to everyone else and not them. The ultimate lesson (in both) about love is lost in the shuffle. However, it's the most important lesson.

        1. ceciliabeltran profile image85
          ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          err...the old testament is a foundation of the new testament.
          I think the bible is highly misunderstood even by those who read them day and night. There's more in there than the english versions.

          there is a lot of literature explaining these things...but who wants to make time right (other than me)?

        2. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
          PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Or it wouldn't be the first commandment. Murdering and acquiring land  ruthlessly are a direct contradiction to Jesus' teachings. People are not suppose to kill other people to convert them, but many did anyway. Like I said, the main lesson got lost in the shuffle. All in all, I believe religion is more about the spirit, anyway, then about religious institutions. We're suppose to be developing ourselves as human beings, rather than just following rules but that's just my opinion.

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            stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            PeppermintPaddy posted 2 days ago in reply to this

            Or it wouldn't be the first commandment. Murdering and acquiring land  ruthlessly are a direct contradiction to Jesus' teachings. People are not suppose to kill other people to convert them, but many did anyway.

            Matthew 10 (King James Version)

            34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

            35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

            36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

            37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

            Jeremiah 48 (King James Version)
            10Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.


            Lunacy above and in the gibbering insanity of Revelations where Jesus years to slip his chains and slaughter more than 3/ths the worlds population.

        3. pisean282311 profile image57
          pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          well you may be right but what you call misinterpretation has had deep impact in history from crusaders to witch hunting to Galileo...use of violence and hatred is part of human history and religion has been used for that...

          1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
            PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Misinterpretation or plain ignoring the rules but using religion as an excuse to achieve ones own personal, sadistic agenda. Sinful, ruthless human beings.

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              stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Sinful, ruthless God.

        4. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
          PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Though true, Stoney, we don't need religion to love.  However, it's a method to possibly guide a person there.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image59
            Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Coulda fooled me from the animosity created by religion. Guess it is prolly best to ignore actual facts and events and still think it is about love. Wonder why that is? Nothing loving in judging other people and listing things god sez you cannot do. The sort of love in the bible is the painful "it's for your own good" sort of love that is not really love.

            1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
              PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Mark, human beings have existed and will exist until the end of time. Human beings are often sinful, selfish, ruthless, flawed human beings who no one or nothing can help, let alone religion.

              1. pisean282311 profile image57
                pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                hmmm...not sure about end of time ...yes time might end with human species since time is human species creation...but not sure humans would exist till end of universe...we may try to by adopting , evolving and forming new ways..but we dont know and can't be sure about it...what say?

                1. pylos26 profile image76
                  pylos26posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Time is endless because it’s round. No beginning, no ending. Don’t take a very smart soul to realize that.

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                    stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Which is why pizza is the 'holy round meal.'

              2. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
                PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Even if they use it to their advantage. Say, priests, or ministers, or rabbis, or other religious leaders with the characteristics above (no offense to any religion).

              3. Mark Knowles profile image59
                Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Garbage. Human beings have been around a few thousand years on a planet that is millions of years old, and will almost certainly wipe themselves out before time ends.

                Unless you are saying time is merely a perception held by humans and does not exist outside of us. Either way - LOL - Funny.

                1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
                  PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Figure of speech.

                  1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
                    PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I think we humans will survive though. Even if our beautiful earth is being destroyed.

              4. Beelzedad profile image62
                Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                That's a very negative view you have of humans. I think humans are compassionate and altruistic in nature, always willing to work together and share, but have been mislead by the bad ideologies created from ignorance.  smile

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                stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                All are mere actors in a pointless play hitting their marks and spouting their lines as scripted eons ago when 'God,' full of too much Odin's Ale and pickled eggs, farted the universe into being.

                There are ramifications and repercussions to things and your God bears responsibility.

            2. aguasilver profile image87
              aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Hebrews 12:7-9 (Amplified Bible)

              You must submit to and endure [correction] for discipline; God is dealing with you as with sons. For what son is there whom his father does not [thus] train and correct and discipline?

              Now if you are exempt from correction and left without discipline in which all [of God's children] share, then you are illegitimate offspring and not true sons [at all].

              Moreover, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we yielded [to them] and respected [them for training us]. Shall we not much more cheerfully submit to the Father of spirits and so [truly] live?

              1. pisean282311 profile image57
                pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Shall we not much more cheerfully submit to the Father of spirits and so [truly] live?...interesting question...but we can see our earthly father and mother..we can see them , talk to them and understand their concerns..while what you say is based not of any tangible thing but faith..now since you are christian , you quote from bible..if you would have been muslim , you would have quoted from quran and if hindu you would have used veda or gita...isn't it?

              2. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
                PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                The bible was edited and continues to be edited. Emperor Constantine was the first editor of the bible.

                1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
                  PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Or maybe it was an apostasy. That's what a Muslim told me Mohammed did to the Koran (to make it paltable to the masses).

              3. Mark Knowles profile image59
                Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Ridiculous nonsense . Sorry - you have no authority to tell me to submit. Your invisible Super Daddy does not exist. - And no - I like having my hair cut. I am exempt from your correction. I know where the bible came from and it ain't the instructions from god. So - now that we understand that and reject it - I choose to live within strict moral codes because I want to instead of becoz u sed god sed (and none of u can agree wot god sed - see religious wars) - that makes me a far superior person than you. I actually have morals and ethics, unlike yourself who is comfortable bearing false witness against me - against your rules. See - if you actually followed the rules - I might have some respect for you. But - as you do not - I laugh in your face.

                You have no authority. None.

                I am alive - truly alive as you will never be.

                1. aguasilver profile image87
                  aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Thanks for the rant Mark, I guess Gods word hit a nerve.

                  Still not in the mood to be goaded.

                  Hasta la vista!

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                    Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Dear me - what a dishonest cop out.

                    You do not speak for a god. You speak for you. But - yes I really do not like liars. If you want to call bearing false witness "gods word" that is your business. Sorry - that is just my moral and ethical codes - you wouldn't understand. Each to his own. Yours is fine with bearing false witness I see.

                    That is the difference between us. You do not have a moral code you can follow. Sad really. sad

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                  stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Christian idiocy like Aqua's is legion.  They quote verses and lack the two required functioning neurons to realize those don't apply to those outside the superstition.

                  They might as well quote lines from a Looney Tunes cartoon.

                  Then these a-holes would gaze blankly if verses from a 'holy tome' they lack belief in were quoted at them!

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            stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            What's seen from Christians, with few exceptions, is hatred and animosity.  So much that such hatred and animosity is termed; "Christian Love[tm]."

            Y'all don't curb your mad dogs.

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            stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Christian Love[tm] is hatred.  That's seen on a daily basis.

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          stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          PP wrote:
          "Christianity is all about love, that's what Jesus did with his apostles and is the first commandment."

          No.  Christianity is all about enslavement, ignorance, bigotry, and selfishness.  I'll grant you Christianity loves all that stuff, and more.

          Where's the 'love' and 'acceptance' of those without said superstition, or those who escaped it?

          Where's the 'love' and 'acceptance' of those who are of a different superstition or sect?

          Where's the 'love' and 'acceptance' of homosexuals and the elevation of them from second class citizens?

          Where are the Christians who follow the Ten 'Suggestions?'

          The 'fruit of Christianity' is rotten as commonly demonstrated by Christians?  Look at the Christians in these threads who joyously follow their 'father, Satan.'

          The lies and dishonesty are there's, not those who show them up as the poseurs they are.

          Almost forgot.  Remember the laws of the OT remain in force as 'heaven and earth' have not passed away-although Xians are diligently working on the latter.

  5. alternate poet profile image76
    alternate poetposted 6 years ago

    IMO  Religion comes from pure arrogance, the arrogance that this clumsy hairless ape is somehow 'more than'.  It is just the extension of the "I am so important it is not possible that I could just dissapear when I die" syndrome. 

    The idea that religion is about love is patently ridiculous as it is tat the base of war and hatred everywhere, when it is in charge of politics it tortures and inflicts pain on its populations.

    Religion should be treated like the plague upon humanity that it is.

    end of rant.

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      Anicholposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Only plague on humanity is his inability to take responsibility for his own actions.

      1. alternate poet profile image76
        alternate poetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Absolutely, and religion takes away responsibility for our own actions and places it in the hands of an absent being.

        1. Nick B profile image85
          Nick Bposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Or the absent-minded

          1. alternate poet profile image76
            alternate poetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            and by extension it places power in the hands of the weak-minded.

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          Anicholposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          What difference does that make to where the world finds itself now?
          I guess bashing some self confessed christian will right the wrongs we inflict on ourselves.
          Religion is an escape for both believers and none believers.

          1. alternate poet profile image76
            alternate poetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            This is the WHOLE difference - if ALL humankind was responsible for his own actions it would think differently and might get around to dealing with the real problems instead of submitting themselves to the will of a few crazed mouthpieces of an imaginary god.

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              Anicholposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The only religous problem we face is terroism and your blind if you think that is the worlds biggest problem.
              Perhaps a little culling of those who dont agree with you will fix the climate, overpopulation, starvation,unemployant, world debt and mans inability to care for one another.

              1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                No - the religious problem we face is 2000 years of slamming it to the masses that they have no control over their life and should give it up for a reward in the next one.

                Odd how that is what the banks and government Incs wanted us to think. Anyone would think religion was invented by the rich and powerful to keep the masses in line. wink

                Oh - wait - That is right - religion did indeed deal with starvation, unemployment mans inability to care for one another - it was just in an alternate universe.

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                  Anicholposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Nice cop out Mark
                  The religous dude made us do it!

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                    Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Dear me. You deny the influence religion has on our society? The "dominion over everything" attitude so prevalent? The "god will provide" bullshite?

                    2000 years of that drivel being force fed to the masses has definitely affected our society and "values" - the sooner we understand that "god will not provide" and accept responsibility for our actions - the better as far as I am concerned.

                    So - make an argument if you think it has not had an effect - or - are you just another troll?

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                stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Anicholposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                The only religous problem we face is terroism and your blind if you think that is the worlds biggest problem.
                Perhaps a little culling of those who dont agree with you will fix the climate, overpopulation, starvation,unemployant, world debt and mans inability to care for one another."

                Yes, the 'Final Solution' so often practiced by Christians.

                1. Cagsil profile image83
                  Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Whatever Christians are practicing...Yes it is the final solution for the extinction of the human species. lol

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                stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                That's been the Christian 'Final Solution' for millennia.

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            stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Anicol posted;

            [I guess bashing some self confessed christian will right the wrongs we inflict on ourselves.]

            Not at all.  There are many Christians who are secure in their faith and don't bother others about it.  Those folks are fine, they keep it the private thing they're told to.

            The ones who do get slammed are the cowardly and dishonest slime which slander others and refuse to address points raised by those pointing out they're full of fecal matter and they're off in la la land.


            [Religion is an escape for both believers and none believers.]

            Rubbish.  Superstition is the escape for believers.

        3. brotheryochanan profile image61
          brotheryochananposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Is there a left field over there? religion is full of people trying to be better and good beyond mans ordinary standards. The responsibility to change is huge for many and although the help of a higher being is incurred, does not mean the individual is not responsible. Since so many lives have been changed proves he is not absent at all. If you haven't seen changed lives, then i suggest you change clothes and go for a walk to a near by church or AA meeting.

          1. Cagsil profile image83
            Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Hey Brotheryochanan, don't think you people should first try to live up to the measly ordinary standards, before they even attempt trying to live up to perfectionist standards? hmm

    2. brotheryochanan profile image61
      brotheryochananposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      hmm and the last war that christians started was when... WW1? WW2? vietnam? 1812? If i remember correctly the churches in america were helping the black people in the underground network. How about the current oil war in the middle east.. is that christian?
      Did you know that america and every other country is headed by freemasonry?

      Lets leave the christians alone and put blame where it belongs. Upon the greedy non god believers that abound everywhere in the world.

      IN the world, for example, if i want to be an astronaut. I first have to accumulate the proper degrees from school, then i have to join a place where astronauts hang out lol, then i have to have some time in astronaut training from a proper astronaut school facility. It is a common misconception that all roads lead to rome (god) when in our society there are narrow and certain paths and steps a person takes to become anything, doctor, nurse, garbage collector.. we cannot go to russia and study a russian god to get to the god of the bible. We cannot go to the mormons who use a different book than the canonized book of the god of the bible.. "Narrow is the way and few there be that find it, wide is the gate to destruction". this is not arrogance, but truth in your face! lol... i kinda like that expression smile

      1. mom101 profile image59
        mom101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        brotheryochanan--seems like some of the other contributers to this post like to dish it out but when someone writes back, they are criticized. To me, that is a cop-out. And have you noticed, our opinions, are stupid? At least, according to some.

        1. brotheryochanan profile image61
          brotheryochananposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Mom101 posted this 41hrs ago:
          I am sorry you feel so insecure about your belief that you have to revert to tossing little insinuations out there about my faith.
          I was raised to treat others the way you want to be treated. Ok. I have a question for you. By the way you seem to disrespect other peoples decision of faith, is that your way of saying, hey world, treat me like a  arrogant jerk? take that for what it is, a question. Not name calling.

          i rest my case about calling people ideas and laughable concepts, stupid.

          1. mom101 profile image59
            mom101posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I may have to be more precise. brother---I was talking to you, not about you, in my last reply. I was referring to a certain writer who apparently is so insecure of his belief that he feels the need to attack ours.
            I was not in any way calling you or him for that matter any name. I did however ask him a question. I even told him that it was a question.
            I have not, nor will I ever attack any ones belief, and I wish the same persons whose belief I do not attack would have the same respect of mine.
            And by the way, the question that I asked mark, was, since I am raised to treat others the way I want to be treated, should I then expect him to feel the same way, you know, treat him as he has us. If he does, then are we at liberty to treat him as he has us, which has been on numerous occasions, an arrogant jerk.
            Again, I am sorry if you felt that comment was about you. It was to you, about another writer.

  6. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 6 years ago

    Religion is not arrogant!
    People are arrogant.
    Not necessarily religious people either.
    Any people!
    But you already knew that, right. hmm

    1. alternate poet profile image76
      alternate poetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      wrong - religion is the arrogance of thinking you are something more than you are.

      1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
        PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Maybe we're a great deal more than you think we are. I certainly believe in life after death religion aside.

        1. alternate poet profile image76
          alternate poetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It is your right to believe what you like, it is clear to me that to wish for life after death is just a function of our being aware of our own existence in the first place.  That it is an utterly ridiculous idea to think that our conciousness survives to go on somewhere else.

          I have no problem with people believing anything - especially as it is not possible to prove any of this - either way - I do have a problem with religion that tries to spread tis kind of nonsense to others, usually vulnerable others.

          1. aka-dj profile image79
            aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You are free to believe that too!
            As you do! big_smile

            1. alternate poet profile image76
              alternate poetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              big_smile

              The difference is that the detrimental effects of religion per se can be seen throughout history, ie 'proved'   -   religion cannot prove anything.

              1. aka-dj profile image79
                aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Who cares about what can be proved.
                It changes nothing!
                People do what they do...end of story.
                Politics or any ideology can have the same effect as religion.
                Ultimately it's people that suffer the consequences of their actions.
                That's the end result of any action.

              2. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
                PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Actually, alternate poet, science is starting to agree with religion more and more. Especially quantum physics which now hypotheses that there are multiple dimensions universe (11 to be exact). We cannot see anything In the 4th through 11th dimensions, but we can see everything from the 3rd dimension down.  What are in the other dimensions?  Angels? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtdE662e … re=related

                1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
                  PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Multiple dimension in the universes.

                  1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
                    PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    And those in 1st and 2nd dimensions can't see us like when we look at  fish. They can't see us, but we can see them. Or ants etc.

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                  Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Quite correct. And it is a long overdue reuniting of both the romantic and classic views. It is called Quality. Even as we type, the elite scientists (aka potion makers) are gathering their data, as they did once before, to build temples for the masses. The difference today, Ba`al has taken on a new face. That image is worshiped by nearly 99% of all humans today, no matter which title they prefer (atheist, agnostic, christian, muslim, hebrew, etc etc). Babylon...

                  1. Beelzedad profile image62
                    Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Btw, what is it that you're typing on, a keyboard for a computer, something made from the hard work of "elite scientists"? wink

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                  stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  PeppermintPaddyposted

                  "Actually, alternate poet, science is starting to agree with religion more and more."

                  Bullshit.  Objective supporting evidence the universe was manufactured?

                  Rabbits don't chew their cud.  Pigeon blood does not cure leprosy.  Bats are not birds.  A person cannot live in the belly of a whale {a whale couldn't swallow a person in the first place).

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      klarawieckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      but religion is man-made, therefore it is made to be arrogant.

      Either way, a person or institution that claims they own the ultimate truth is arrogant.

      1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
        PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Agreed, and not very smart because they close them to progress.

        1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
          PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Would be nice to have an edit button around here. Maybe I should care less because E News is more interesting than being grammatically correct.

          1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
            PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Or typo correct, just to protect myself.

            1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
              PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Protect myself from those who are interested in correcting people in forums.  As silly as it is.

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            stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            There is an edit button. At your post press 'more' then select 'edit.'

            1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
              PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Thank you.

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                stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                You're more than welcome.  Glad I could render assistance.  :wave:

    3. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
      schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      apparently there is only one true religion- Christianity -belief in Christ

      1. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        ROFLMAO

        Does anybody need more proof? lol

        1. pisean282311 profile image57
          pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol

        2. pisean282311 profile image57
          pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            No, I'm pretty much OK for proof thanks! lol lol lol

      2. Pandoras Box profile image82
        Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Did she do that on purpose? If not, too funny.

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        stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        schoolgirlforreal posted the following unrepentant lie:

        "apparently there is only one true religion- Christianity -belief in Christ"

        That's nice little one {patting her on the head gently with a clue-by-4].   Run along now and don't pester the adults.  There's a good girl.

  7. Nick B profile image85
    Nick Bposted 6 years ago

    Religion is arrogant because in the majority of cases, it maages to completely ignore any other point of view, any other possibility and any other form of reasoning whatsoever.

    Indeed, the Roman Catholic Church was even arrogant enough to change certain aspects of the Bible in order to fit with what they wanted at the time - which was power. The Bible that is now used has been doctored and is no longer the truth, which is possibly why some of it doesn't make sense.

    This is the same church body that regardless of the population problems, still feels that contraception is wrong, yet they didn't stop castrating their choirboys until 1909.

    Smacks to me of "Do as I say", not "Do as I do", which is what Jesus allegedly taught, which in my view is pretty arrogant alright.

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      stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Which Jesus allegedly taught and practiced!

      1. Cagsil profile image83
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Actually, Jesus didn't teach "do as I say, not as I do". The religious leaders taught that.

        Jesus taught people to love themselves, so they could have compassion for those who didn't know how. He taught people to consider people equal and not lessor. hmm

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          stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          He taught it by example.  Jebus was a liar and a hypocrite as well as a thief and a Sabbath breaker as well as an unmedicated head case.

  8. cresandsuzanne profile image60
    cresandsuzanneposted 6 years ago

    is it arrogant to regognize that the world is damaged? is it arrogant to realize you yourself are damaged? is it arrogant to want lifestyls that promote peace, love, understanding, honesty, and awareness of others? is it arrogant to admit your mistakes?  if so then I AM ONE ARROGANT MOFO!

    1. Nick B profile image85
      Nick Bposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      One doesn't have to subscribe to any particular religion to be a good person; to recognise that the world is broken, or to recognise that religion is broken too.

      It should have occurred to more than a few by now that fighting for peace is like f***ing for virginity. Fighting in the name of religion is even worse as it displays an inability to "turn the other cheek".

      1. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        u made good point nick...i agree with u..

  9. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 6 years ago

    Religion can be arrogant, but it doesn't have to be.

  10. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 6 years ago

    You guys are supposed to be writers!

    How can a concept be arrogant?

    My car is arrogant.
    My chair too.
    Oh, my computer, well it's over the top arrogant.
    Give me a break!!! mad

    1. BDazzler profile image84
      BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I've been writing artificial intelligence long enough, I think your computer could be arrogant. Or at least it could seem arrogant to an observer ... it would be an interesting Turing test.

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        stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I wonder how long it will be before a computer is able to pass the Turing test.

    2. Dave Barnett profile image60
      Dave Barnettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It's called anthropormorphizing (Bad spelling) attaching human emotions or characteristics to inanimate objects.

  11. SilentReed profile image89
    SilentReedposted 6 years ago

    Are we talking of religion as a belief system or as an institution ?

  12. Shil1978 profile image89
    Shil1978posted 6 years ago

    Religion itself isn't something that came into being on its own. The people are the ones who are arrogant. The ones who think they know the best and can't bear to hear any criticism of their religion. The ones who feel that their religion is the only pathway to heaven and the ones who believe that all the rest (non-believers) would go to hell!!

    1. Pandoras Box profile image82
      Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You've just described every christian. People who do not hold the beliefs you listed are not holding to the central tenets of christianity and therefore would not be considered christians despite whatever they may choose to call themselves.

      Look I'm not saying every christian is blatantly arrogant. I'm saying that the belief system itself, the worldview of exclusivity necessarily fosters some degree of arrogance in those who hold to it.

      I can easily give a pass to our less free and informed ancestors. But in our modern world, knowing what we know, even just the basic stuff everybody knows, you cannot possess common knowledge of the world both as it is today and also its history, a passing awareness of anthropology and a bit of reasoning skill, adopt a worldview that a certain group of people -to which you belong- are saved by the same being who intends to thoroughly decimate the vast remainder of humanity, and not be likely to explain this supposedly holy rampage with a touch of being -somehow, someway- better than them. Otherwise their destruction isn't justified.

      In order to accept that mass destruction of your fellow human beings, one consciously or otherwise accepts instead that somehow one is better than those who are to be destroyed. Either you were good enough or desirous enough of goodness to choose god and I wasn't -freewill, or, god loved you enough to save you and not me -calvinism.

      Either the way the arrogance is innately a part of the worldview. We're all different, so in some of us -you- -christians- this arrogance is more obvious, in others it's more subtle. A regretful sigh for all those who just didn't make the cut.

      Again, it's not just about arrogance, but insecurity as well. They have to think themselves even just ever-so-slightly better than nonbelievers in order to feel secure or comfortable in their beliefs.

    2. pisean282311 profile image57
      pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      good point...

  13. thisisoli profile image66
    thisisoliposted 6 years ago

    I don't think arrogance is down to religion, more down to people. I have met both Christians and Atheists who have been arrogant and others humble.

    I think the large majority of true Christians are deluded, but I don't think that necessarily makes them arrogant.

    I probably come across as arrogant with my atheist viewpoint, but that is simply because I do not really tolerate foolish behaviour too well, and that is how I kind of feel about religion.

  14. Pandoras Box profile image82
    Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago

    To prove my assertion that arrogance is an innate byproduct of the Big 3 religions, I offer you exhibit A: Should Christians Waste Their Time Debating With Unbelievers -a forum topic currently directly listed below this one.

    Therein you will find a few very explicit examples of christians exhibiting arrogance to help them to accept their god's ever-imminent destruction of the rest of humanity.

  15. Rishy Rich profile image80
    Rishy Richposted 6 years ago

    Books are the guide = Books are perfect = Books are arrogant = Yes, religions are arrogant

  16. Jerami profile image78
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    Mark Knowles  wrote  ...
    Personally I think "hubristic" is a better description in any case. I am an arrogant so and so myself - but I have good reason.

    ------------------------------

      Jerami    That is my point!   The air that we breath is full of excuses and self justification for doing or not doing anything that we want to do or do not want to do.

       Just grab an excuse out of the air.

       There is no such thing as got to  or caint.
       Cain't means don't want to very much!
       Got to means want to very much.
      Just pick an excuse that fits our desires.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image59
      Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Dear me. You should notice a joke when you see it dude. Too busy praying for the end huh? sad

      1. Jerami profile image78
        Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The funniest JOKES are most always based on some truth.

           I thought that for just  a moment ya let a little honesty slip out.

           Sorry I was wrong.  Please forgive me.

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    tylrmoenposted 6 years ago

    if you look at it this way and say that people need religion or this entire world can and will go into a deep state of chaos and will eventually burn to the ground.  if people did not believe that there was a right or a wrong and did not believe that they could or even would be punnished for their actions then people would do what they pleased.  since there is religion people who normally would do something bad would and people who already do bad would do it even more.  religion holds people to a higher standard than they believe possible.  now that, thats said we move on to which religion is correct.  we never will be able to tell until we die which religoin is correct or if all religion is correct in one aspect or another.  my point of view is that religion as a organization like the ones who ask for donations are just straght up beggers asking for money to make themselfs rich by falsly believing in a religion just for the money.  now when you look at christianity (which is what i am)  you see people praying to god everyday mostly on sunday.  now when you pray to god what do you pray about.  money, food, fame, fortune, something unlikly to happen or even just to get a girlfriend/boyfriend.  now say your prayer doesnt get answered what do you say "oh well it must have been in gods will."  you see god has a devine plan and he sticks to his plan.  it is all because he made this pland a long time ago and decided to put it into practice.  now what if what you want isnt in gods devine plan what do you want to do have him change his plan.  why would god make a devine plane if every man with a $2 prayer book can come along and mess up his plan.  this is the one thing that really gets me about the entire religion idea.  y would you have a almighty god who is going to do what he wants to any why that he pleases and thinks he is going to change everything he was planning just because you prayed for it.  that is my input i just created a page not too long ago come visit it and talk to me. ^_^

  18. srwnson profile image60
    srwnsonposted 6 years ago

    Perhaps some denominations are arrogant. I don't think all religious people are. I know other christian drivers like myself that are very, very kind.(hope that didn't sound arrogant,) Perhaps others view it as such. We see so much suffering over a large portion of the country

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      stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, no, not all religious people are arrogant.  Many/most are happy and honest kindly folk who privately practice their religion.  They treat their religion as the precious thing others say it is while treat it with less respect than a penny in a parking lot.

      The former folk I have great respect for.  Seems to me they're quite secure in their faith.

      Yes, there's so much suffering over a large portion of the country-inflicted by other Christians {not restricted to just them}.  Sadly, such {according to Christianity} is by 'loving design' and part of the 'divine plan.'

      Religion can be a beautiful thing.  Sadly, its main use is destructive and divisive.  That is my main objection.

  19. Italmeansumthin profile image61
    Italmeansumthinposted 6 years ago

    I don't think all religions are arrogant. I myself practice a different kind of faith. But to me, showing respect and kindness towards other religions is important to me. I think that when certain people do let their ego get a little high, then they choose to stay in their own world and place themselves up on pedastols and put everyone else who believes differently below them.

  20. alexandriaruthk profile image49
    alexandriaruthkposted 6 years ago

    In both ways, those who are believers and non believers can be arrogant at times. Religions are not arrogant, people are.

    1. Jerami profile image78
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      We gotta feel sory for people that are better than everyone else.   Gotta be lonley up there.

      1. BDazzler profile image84
        BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        No really, it's not so bad wink

        1. Jerami profile image78
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That is an unexpected joy!   I am happy for you. 

              May I ask ?   how crowded is it there?

          1. BDazzler profile image84
            BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            More than you might think! wink

            1. Jerami profile image78
              Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I'm so OLD that nuttin suprises me any more!
              I guess that makes me psycic ???   or maybe psyco.

              I forget what the difference is.....   HELP!

              1. BDazzler profile image84
                BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                <snicker>

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          stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          ROFL!

  21. Zubyre profile image52
    Zubyreposted 6 years ago

    I follow Falun Gong, which is actually a belief system but alot of people call it religion, it's being banned in China for no reason other than the Chinese Communist Party can't tolerate something good and humane like Falun Gong, which includes qigong practice which can only be good. It teaches people to adhere to truthfulness compassion and tolerance.

    I don't consider myself to be arrogant, elitist, special, dogmatic, in need of a father figure, or anything like that. Everyone needs a place to hang their hat whether they are a new age individualist, Christian, group of atheists, muslims etc.

    1. BDazzler profile image84
      BDazzlerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      May God grant you the freedom to follow the dictates of your heart and protect you from those who would try to steal it from you.

      1. PeppermintPaddy profile image77
        PeppermintPaddyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I ditto that.

    2. alternate poet profile image76
      alternate poetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Falun gong is a confidence trick not a religion

      1. bsscorpio8 profile image61
        bsscorpio8posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Nice profile painting.

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      stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Zubyreposted 4 days ago

      "I follow Falun Gong, which is actually a belief system but alot of people call it religion, it's being banned in China for no reason other than the Chinese Communist Party can't tolerate something good and humane like Falun Gong, which includes qigong practice which can only be good. It teaches people to adhere to truthfulness compassion and tolerance."

      Had to look up 'qigong practice.'  Sounds like a good overall approach.  :thumbs up:

  22. bsscorpio8 profile image61
    bsscorpio8posted 6 years ago

    No. People are.

  23. Nick B profile image85
    Nick Bposted 6 years ago

    I'm beginning to wonder whether religion makes people intolerant.

    I don't know whether it's the people or the religion. All I can see from here is that many feel they're right, but are not willing to agree that belief is not a case of one size fits all.

    So many people with so many beliefs, yet so few are prepared to say that they're happy that others have found their direction, whether it's Judaism, Roman Catholicism, Wiccan or any of a myriad other religions or belief systems. You don't have to agree with them, just know that there are different strokes for different folks.

    Few seems to feel confident enough in their beliefs that they can let others be themselves, knowing that when those others are ready or willing, they might ask what it is that makes them so happy.

    That's when the information flows, not when it's rammed down the throats of people who don't necessarily want to hear, which does no more than push them away.

    Religion itself may not be arrogant, it may not be anything other than a vehicle to spark intolerance in people who otherwise wouldn't say boo to a goose.

    1. bsscorpio8 profile image61
      bsscorpio8posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No people=no religion.

      1. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        quiet right...so my way only way is manifestation of human's arrogance and religion has nothing to do with it?

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      stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Nick B posted

      [I'm beginning to wonder whether religion makes people intolerant.]

      Depends on the person.  It can foster/amplify such tendencies.


      [I don't know whether it's the people or the religion. All I can see from here is that many feel they're right, but are not willing to agree that belief is not a case of one size fits all.]

      Part may be fear or envy.  I'm referencing post which indicate their religion is the only thing keeping them from rampaging.

      [So many people with so many beliefs, yet so few are prepared to say that they're happy that others have found their direction, whether it's Judaism, Roman Catholicism, Wicca or any of a myriad other religions or belief systems. You don't have to agree with them, just know that there are different strokes for different folks.]

      That's just it.  Its like cola products.  Christian insist 'Coke is it[tm],' while others prefer a different brand while others don't care for cola at all.

      [Few seems to feel confident enough in their beliefs that they can let others be themselves, knowing that when those others are ready or willing, they might ask what it is that makes them so happy.]

      Thing is Christians [not all inclusive, specialize in demonstrating they're bloody miserable.

      [That's when the information flows, not when it's rammed down the throats of people who don't necessarily want to hear, which does no more than push them away.]

      Exactly.  Of course, it can't be the fault of that ttttrrrrrrruuuueeee Xian.

      Religion itself may not be arrogant, it may not be anything other than a vehicle to spark intolerance in people who otherwise wouldn't say boo to a goose.

  24. Rajab Nsubuga profile image60
    Rajab Nsubugaposted 6 years ago

    I could be late on this, but if Jews are considered religious, then, yes, religion is arrogant.

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago

      Yes, religion is arrogant.
      It facilitates weak kneed child molesters and loonies to runs around telling others how moral they should be.

      1. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol...

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        stoneyyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        How moral they are.

    2. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago

      You got the bit about opinions right. smile

    3. Mark Knowles profile image59
      Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago

      Cousin - As you are too lazy to learn how the formatting works - I will not bother responding at length.

      Not really worth responding to yet another ridiculous defense of your irrational - apparently perfect - religion. LOLOLO

      I heartily suggest reading a few books outside your hate-filled tome. You may learn how the world works instead of blaming it on not doing wot god sed.

      God sed "go forth and multiply" and "you have dominion over." So - the corporations are doing wot god sed.

      See how that means your reply is utter nonsense? wink

      I see you are defending the money changers also - I wonder if you even read the book you keep sticking down people's throats?

    4. ceciliabeltran profile image85
      ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago

      I wonder if he can figure out how science started out....(dear gosh, i hope he doesn't see THE BIBLE THERE)

      1. Mark Knowles profile image59
        Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        OH GOSh - you mean I was lied to and the ancient Egyptians (2000 BC) and Chinese (2000BC) never started SCIENCE - it is all a big lie wot sez wot god diddit in the bible? Damn - I need to rewrite my history.

        Gawd, Woowoo - all that time away and you do not know that SCIENCE started thousands of years before The Nonsense was written. wink

      2. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        didnt get you..how science started?

    5. pylos26 profile image76
      pylos26posted 6 years ago

      Religion is just silly.

      1. ceciliabeltran profile image85
        ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Religion is as silly as two parrots with a highly developed limbic brain.

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          Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol

          1. ceciliabeltran profile image85
            ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol why I am not surprised that you got it.

    6. alternate poet profile image76
      alternate poetposted 6 years ago

      Philosophy came first, when it worked stuff out it became a discrete branch, or a science, when it could not work out the answer it spun off religions.

      People seemed to be so much more clever collectively before religion addled their brains beyond redemption.

    7. BRHANDA profile image60
      BRHANDAposted 6 years ago

      NO. NOTAT ALL. YOUR AFFIRM UNSHAKEN FAITH IN ONE. ONE WHO CREATED THE UNIVERSE & living persons on it. Religion means to rely to have faith, DHARM ..dharna. to solemnly affirm, i wil do good deals, SHUBH KARMA. for himself and humanbeings

    8. waynet profile image47
      waynetposted 6 years ago

      Yes, it smells bad!

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      Navyman05posted 6 years ago

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      1. Cagsil profile image83
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Hey Navyman,

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        It makes no sense. Just thought you should know. wink

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