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Did "God" break his own laws by sending Jesus to "save " us?

  1. SilentReed profile image87
    SilentReedposted 6 years ago

    If God created the universe and the laws that govern that universe, is he above those laws ? for the sake of argument that he did sent his only son to "save" us. Isn't he intervening in the natural order of things and saying that we have no free will and must accept Jesus or burn in "Hell"? What do you think,believers?

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      exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Your free will, you choose the path you wish to take, it is not hard to follow the rules, respect every one even their choice of what they want to believe,

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You didn't answer the question. Nice job at avoidance.

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          exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Just like Adam And Eve if they wanted to stay in the Garden of Eden, they do whatever, Just leave one tree alone,
          If you ever feel the love and power of God, you would want to be the best person you could be, just like being small again, when you received a great gift from your parents, for a short time you wanted to please them, not because you had to, but because you want to. still your choice

          1. Rishy Rich profile image81
            Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            So he sent his son all the way down to tell us if we dont worship him we will burn in Hell?

            I think, he needs more psychiatric medication than Prayers!

            1. pisean282311 profile image58
              pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              lol well may be he ran out of idea...HE could have done so easily by making announcement from sky...instead of sending someone...guess god is not good in communications...

              1. Rishy Rich profile image81
                Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Yeah & not at all techno-friendly. He could even text the messages in our brain but no...He had to had a son in a mortals womb. How lame or should I say how pervert is that? neutral

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              mick45posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I'm sure if he wanted to get that message
              across he would have spilt the clouds
              shouted down at us.

    2. stilljustwonderin profile image61
      stilljustwonderinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      , is he above those laws ?
      Yes he is.  He can change them, repent of them.  I can change the rules of my house.  Follow my rules or leave.

      Isn't he intervening in the natural order of things and saying that we have no free will and must accept Jesus or burn in "Hell"?
      No, you still have free will.  Choose any path ya want.  To not have free will you wouldn't have the choice.

      1. Rishy Rich profile image81
        Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What about having alternative paths...Do we have that choice? or is it just 'My way or High way, Pray or Hell" ??

        There are plenty of good men, honest men, benevolent men who has done so much for society unconditionally. But they will go to Hell according to your given path because they are atheists. Its not they hate God, its just because they find humanity as more important subject than some irrational believes. They dont worship satan & may be they dont love God either. Because
        Love is not a material object that he can buy for someone. It comes naturally. And it doesnt come for everyone. What about those guys who should be treated well for their good deeds, who doesnt care for the given Choices? What about those guys who would love to see God go away but still live his happy own life? Do we have that Choice? or is it a Free will under condition?

        1. aguasilver profile image87
          aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          If you were that good man, and did all those good deeds, but broke the law, and were caught bang to rights.

          Say you killed someone in a fit of pique, or when you were in distress?

          Would you expect that the judge to pardon you just because you had always been a good man?

          No, of course you would not, you may plead extenuating circumstances, you may have a 1000 character witnesses, but if the law states that you must die for that offence..... the judge has no excuse when you have been found guilty.

          So you are executed.

          However, God, who you have chosen NOT to obey the in the laws He set out, has found you GUILTY, and deserving of death....

          ....Yet He came here to PAY for your crimes, and to offer you the chance to walk away free of condemnation, and all you have to do is accept His pardon.

          Now who is being unreasonable?

          1. earnestshub profile image86
            earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Nobody found anybody guilty of anything, no pardon was needed by your benevolent fairy.
            Humans are the product of what they learn.
            I have been conversing with 5 year old twins all day, don't give me any baloney about sin and your god punishing people.

            Just because your fantasy says that to you means nothing to anyone else. My children don't need the fear of your vengeful little gods.
            You worry about it for yourself OK?

            1. h.a.borcich profile image60
              h.a.borcichposted 6 years ago in reply to this



              That is your opinion Earnest. John posted a reply to a forum thread, a great reply I might add.

              1. earnestshub profile image86
                earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                NO. It is easy enough to read what John wrote. It is also perfectly clear as to what he is saying.

                Condescending foot-rot!

                1. h.a.borcich profile image60
                  h.a.borcichposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Nice edit, by the way.

                  We get it that you think only opinions that support your position matter, but the public forum thread is not limited to you. Maybe you can think about that for a bit?

                  1. earnestshub profile image86
                    earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I have an opinion. I express it.

                    My opinions don't condemn others to death like yours do. smile

                  2. earnestshub profile image86
                    earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Nice edit by the way??????
                    Say what you mean.

                  3. pisean282311 profile image58
                    pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    public forum thread in not limited to any one and same applies to the world...world is much much larger than muslims or christians or hindus or believers of jesus or muhammad or krishna...world is huge...

          2. Beelzedad profile image60
            Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            God, obviously. smile

            1. pisean282311 profile image58
              pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              lol..

          3. Rishy Rich profile image81
            Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            @aguasilver

            So not believing in God is equivalent to Murdering people then?


            A Pedophilic abusive pastor is more virtuous than a humanist then?

            A rapist priest deserves heaven more than an atheist who fought for American liberation then?

            A serial killer who believes in ur God is more worthy of having eternal pleasures than Einstein, Buddha, Aristotle, Gandhi or all other men who didnt believe in your Holy book?

            You know what, YOU CAN KEEP THAT HEAVEN FOR YOURSELVES. WE DONT NEED THAT!

            ***One should have shoved those laws in arseholes first b4 shoving them in their heads.***

            1. pisean282311 profile image58
              pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              well if heaven is booked for people like you mentioned..hell is surely better place to be in smile

            2. aguasilver profile image87
              aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Sorry, only saw this after I posted to your mafia reply.

              No Rishy, none of the above will make it to be with God, if they are not repentant of their sins, no more than anyone who is an unrepentant sinner will, no matter whether they espouse belief or not.

              The old quote 'Once saved always saved' has one defining issue, and that is in the fact that ONCE you are saved, your spirit will be regenerated, and as such, you would NOT be in those categories you attempt to throw up.

              Like Forrest Gump says... "stupid is as stupid does" i.e. if you are a rapist, murderer, predatory child molester etc, you are NOT a Christian, no matter what you call yourself, or what collar you wear.

              1. Rishy Rich profile image81
                Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Do u knw the definition of a Christian? or do I have to teach u that too? It doesnt matter whether u r a rapist or murderer, as long as you believe that Jesus is the Christ -  u r a Christian. & this is coming from the Christian definition of Christians wink


                And Im not a big fan of old quotes, most of those has become obsolete & the rest are not even considered as reliable anymore...

                1. aguasilver profile image87
                  aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Think I'll stay with the definition Christ made:

                  Revelation 21:7-9 (Amplified Bible)

                  He who is victorious shall inherit all these things, and I will be God to him and he shall be My son.

                  But as for the cowards and the ignoble and the contemptible and the cravenly lacking in courage and the cowardly submissive, and as for the unbelieving and faithless, and as for the depraved and defiled with abominations, and as for murderers and the lewd and adulterous and the practicers of magic arts and the idolaters (those who give supreme devotion to anyone or anything other than God) and all liars (those who knowingly convey untruth by word or deed)--[all of these shall have] their part in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone. This is the second death.

                  and

                  John 14:14-16 (Amplified Bible)

                  [Yes] I will grant [I Myself will do for you] whatever you shall ask in My Name [as [a]presenting all that I AM].

                  If you [really] love Me, you will keep (obey) My commands.

                  And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, and Standby), that He may remain with you forever.

                  1. Rishy Rich profile image81
                    Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Only standardized definitions are considered to be accepted. Well, you have the right to take any definitions from any book for personal believes no matter how much irrational that is!


                    And that is so nice of u asking your father for providing me a comforter...You remind of the those fortunetellers who cant even guarantee their own fortune over next 5 minutes!

                2. Don W profile image82
                  Don Wposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Are you talking about being a Christian or being 'saved'? These two terms are not synonymous. It's my understanding that being a Christian by definition, i.e believing Jesus is the 'Christ' does not necessarily mean you will be 'saved'. Most Christian teaching I have come across suggests that the belief Jesus is the 'Christ' is a starting point. It's the equivalent of having a door opened in front of you. What you do with that is up to you. You can go in and see what's inside or you can turn and walk away.

                  In other words, I think Christian teaching suggests that because of free will, someone who believes Jesus is the 'Christ' can still go out do something terrible and can even be 'unrepentant' for it. Because someone is a Christian by definition, doesn't mean they can't act in a way which is contrary to Christian teaching, and doesn't mean they will necessarily be 'saved'. Even people who believe Jesus is 'Christ' still have free will.

                  Likewise someone who is not a Christian by definition can lead a life which conforms to Christian teaching. Whether such a person will be 'saved' or not is one of the areas within Christianity where I think there is debate between different denominations. But I think in most denominations, being a Christian by definition, i.e. believing Jesus is the 'Christ' is just the beginning of a person's journey of faith, not the end of it. So yes murderers, rapists and killers can all be Christians by definition. But whether they are 'saved' or not is another matter. That depends on other things which can vary depending on denomination, but which ultimately sits in the hands of god. At least, that's my understanding of Christian teaching on the matter.

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                    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    What do Jesus and Moses say about it? Please quote from both.

                  2. aguasilver profile image87
                    aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Good comment.

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          mick45posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I think you believe in mans version of GOD.
          My father use to say that he believed in GOD
          and not man. how do we know what  he   has
          to say, we are all going by what some religous
          nut says .

          1. aguasilver profile image87
            aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Rishy Rich wrote:
            What about having alternative paths...Do we have that choice? or is it just 'My way or High way, Pray or Hell" ??

            There are plenty of good men, honest men, benevolent men who has done so much for society unconditionally. But they will go to Hell according to your given path because they are atheists. Its not they hate God, its just because they find humanity as more important subject than some irrational believes. They dont worship satan & may be they dont love God either. Because
            Love is not a material object that he can buy for someone. It comes naturally. And it doesnt come for everyone. What about those guys who should be treated well for their good deeds, who doesnt care for the given Choices? What about those guys who would love to see God go away but still live his happy own life? Do we have that Choice? or is it a Free will under condition?


            Of course you have a choice, in fact you have two choices...

            You can choose to spend eternity with God, or without Him, we have already covered this, and the problem is that you want to be your own god and make your choices, and expect that God will want to do YOUR WILL, not His own, and when you keep seeing that this is NOT the way it functions, you get upset.

    3. pisean282311 profile image58
      pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ideal leader wont break the law even if he owns the system...

      1. stilljustwonderin profile image61
        stilljustwonderinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I don't see where he broke the law.  He didn't change free will.  We still have free will.

        1. Rishy Rich profile image81
          Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          What if a Mafia comes to you & says, 'Do what I say or I will kill you'.

          -Does that sounds like you are having an option?

          Now what if another Mafia comes to you & say that, "Worship me or I will burn you forever in Hell." - how would u feel then? 

          smile

          1. pisean282311 profile image58
            pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            god seems to be more excited in sending people to hell...i wonder what fun god has in sending people to hell when HE is totally in control of everything...may be god needs a god who can judge HIM...

          2. earnestshub profile image86
            earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            So much better!     not. smile

          3. aguasilver profile image87
            aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            But surely, by your own admission, the Mafia would recognise that you were a good man, with good deeds, and leave you alone, because you are such a good man.

            The word of God is a two edged sword, severing spirit from flesh.

            You cannot argue ONLY from perspectives that you feel favour you and discredit God, for God has already dealt with ALL of your objections before you were created.

            Edit: BTW God does not say He will kill us if we choose not to accept His free gift of eternal salvation, He simply says that we cannot be with Him for eternity if we reject Him in life.

            And why would you wish to be, having spent most of your free time lately attacking Him in verbiage?

            So as you wish to not be with Him, then He must (being God) create a space where He never goes, and chooses not to control, leaving that place to you and those who reject Him.

            That must be a hellish place, no rules except the survival of the loudest, strongest, most brutal, and no way back to God if you decide you were wrong, because you refused Him the right to commune with you.

            Just where is God at fault in this scenario?

            After all, you are the ones deciding to reject Him!

            1. Rishy Rich profile image81
              Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              You must be kidding, right? I might be wrong but is that a threat in a Polite tone??

              The almighty God cant make a SINGLE PEACEFUL PLACE for his subjects who doesnt want to be with him??? Now where is all His MIGHT you guys always BRAG about? So Your Omnipotent God is helpless for those whose wants to make their own way, who wants to live an independent life? Sounds like the Omnipotent has become Impotent big_smile


              If not, then God must be capable of providing such place but not willing to?? Why not? Is it simply because we refuse to OIL him & want to make our own way independently? Thats a very jealous God u have!!

              And u say without him life would be Hellish? So why God Keeps all the Good things & pleasures with Him? hmm Now thats a very selfish act. He should have thought about those who love to live alone!! But again, its your God...It has to be like you!! roll

              1. aguasilver profile image87
                aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Problem is that He has made 'one peaceful place' (without Him being there to trouble you)but it's going to be inhabited by all those who don't want to be with Him, and by your definition, that will include some pretty nasty folk, those who really do not respect folk, in the same rational manner that you do, people who have raped, killed, and generally abused others, and who (by their acts) have separated themselves from God, and as you all do not want, or cannot possibly be with God, you're stuck there alone, for eternity, and nobody will come to 'interfere' with you, whatever you are doing! - so everybody, including all those nasty folk, will be free to exercise their free will and do as they please.... something to look forward to huh!




                Come on, be reasonable, you don't want him in your life, you deny He exists, you deny Satan exists, you want a nice peaceful place to exist alone, and He's made one, but you don't want to share it with any nasty folk who (LIKE YOU) have refused to obey God's rules and also do not want to spend eternity with Him.

                What do you suggest God does with all those nasty folk you do not want with you?

                1. Rishy Rich profile image81
                  Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Only one wonderful place?

                  Did he run short of supplies there?

                  Your all arguments end in creating doubt about His benevolent & Omnipotent nature & it only supports my line which I stated earlier:

                  ...What if a Mafia comes to you & say that, "Worship me or I will burn you forever in Hell." - I dont see much difference between ur God & that Mafia?

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                    mick45posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    if you dont believe in GOD so what who
                    cares about your opinion.. Opinions are
                    like arseholes everyone got one. And just
                    because you think your smart doesn't mean
                    you are

          4. stilljustwonderin profile image61
            stilljustwonderinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            That would depend on what he wanted me to do.  I would have to choose if I wanted to do what he said or die.   Worship the Mafia?  Never, he could kill me.
            Everything we do in life is a choice.

            1. Rishy Rich profile image81
              Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Dear me, the Mafia is just a metaphor. Try replacing the word 'God' in place of Mafia. Phew.

              1. stilljustwonderin profile image61
                stilljustwonderinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                No joke.  I did know that.. People aren't as ignorant as you think.    PHEW. Fact  remains it is a choice.

                1. Rishy Rich profile image81
                  Rishy Richposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Well ur previous reply failed to portray that.

                  Have u ever realized that ur particular God is no different than a Mafia to other religions?

                  It only ensures heaven for its own goons & hell for other gangsters...

                  1. pisean282311 profile image58
                    pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    the problem with most religions is that they forget that if there is a god ,HE would be more concerned with how people live their life than whether they call him by one name or other...HE would be more happy if humans are being good and not remembering HIM than people remembering him but being nasty to other faiths and people...sad...

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      cosetteposted 6 years ago in reply to this



      i have pondered this for many years also and have been thinking about this lately since people are discussing free will and sin here in the forums.

      i do know that in Biblical times, people sacrificed lambs and whatnot as a way to atone for their sins and, as i understood it, that act cleansed them of their sins. Jesus' sacrifice was sort of like his 'taking one for the team' and meant that Man didn't have to present sacrifices to God anymore, since Jesus' sacrifice was like the ultimate one, which was essentially as good as a jillion lamb sacrifices for all eternity. but Man is still a sinner and must still 'go and sin no more'. going to church every Sunday doesn't mean you can go and cheat on your wife on Monday or rob a bank on Tuesday or kick your dog on Wednesday. you still have the free will to live your life as you want but you are expected to be a practitioner of your faith instead of just phoning it in every Sunday.

      p.s. i am not a Christian but i bristle every time i see the phrase 'sky fairy'. i mean, that is kind of mean, not to mention provocative.

      1. aguasilver profile image87
        aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you Cosette,

        A well thought out and reasonable reply....

        ... I also dislike the term 'sky fairy', but I guess lack of imagination and understanding leads otherwise intelligent folk to resort to name calling when their 'logic' escapes them.

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          cosetteposted 6 years ago in reply to this



          thank you. and that fairy term is disrespectful any way you slice it.

          ;_;

          these are good discussions though. they make you think.

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      Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      If God created the universe and the laws that govern that universe, is he above those laws ?
      He is those laws and the governing and the universe.
      for the sake of argument that he did sent his only son to "save" us. Isn't he intervening in the natural order of things
      Again, Creator is the natural order of all things.
      and saying that we have no free will and must accept Jesus or burn in "Hell"?
      First and foremost, Creator NEVER said for you to accept Jesus or worship him. He did say to accept the Gift of that sacrifice and good news which is everyone's choice issue has been solved and to step into your perfect new Life wholeheartedly, not half-assed. Second, Free Will and Choice are not the same. If you have Free Will, you would not need to choose which one. But because you feel you need to choose, you end up in a concern, panic, state of fear or worse, a complete dismissal of Free Will and your natural existence as a mirror reflection of Creator. To emphasize, 'salvation' was to remove the stumbling block of Choice (which was sin at its root) and restore all human access to their original stasis of perfection.

    6. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      We don't know the conditions of the very life source that is within each and everyone of us. We know nothing about it.
        We know nothing of its original condition.

        We very well could have destroyed it to the point that when the body dies our life source dies with it; I don't know?

        Maybe just maybe our faith in a life after death is necessary for us to obtain it?  And without that faith ???  Ya get what ever you truly believe in??  If you believe in nothing?  That is what ya get.   FREE WILL  ....  And then we blame God cause we get nothing cause we didn't want something.

          Yea that is logical. It is somebody else's fault that I didn't want anything.

         I'm not saying that is the way that it is. And I'm not saying that it isn't??

         Something to think about  ???

    7. bulletproofballoo profile image59
      bulletproofballooposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I guess you have the free will to think what you want, but your saying (For the arguement) that there is a God who has created all things...Well, God created us for His glory, but that glory and praise wouldn't be real if we had no choice but to worship him or not... So we have the free will to do so, and that makes our worship and relationship with him personal and real. I liked the example of the father making rules for his house, and if you don't follow the rules, your out. But we will always fall short of following God's commandments because we are sinful, that's why Jesus had to come and Die as an atoning sacrifice to cover over our sins. But God isn't going to force his grace upon us. All He asks is for us to accept it and let Him change our lives.

      1. earnestshub profile image86
        earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lol Never been a parent then? lol

    8. schoolgirlforreal profile image74
      schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      That is ridiculous and I refuse to answer such a question.

  2. ksha16 profile image60
    ksha16posted 6 years ago

    LoL yeah lol hehe

  3. Jerami profile image77
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    I've seen that the term "I Think" is seldom used in the forums.

       I guess that does not sound authoritative enough for our own minds to hear.  "I think"  that this is but another way of brain washing ourselves into thinking that we are the authority.

      We don't have to write it every time, if we could keep it in mind that what we think is just that. No more and no less than us thinking that what we say is true.

       No one is going to agree on all things.

       I gotta go to work for a while, see ya later.

    1. Druid Dude profile image60
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Pretty cheeky monkees! God's LAW is for MAN, not for GOD.

  4. SilentReed profile image87
    SilentReedposted 6 years ago

    So "God" is like a crooked politician who made the laws but doesn't need to follow them because he can  change them anytime he fells like it. So "God" made the laws that we must follow BUT he gave us freewill to choose between following Jesus or burn in hell. It's like a mugger who is asking "Your money or your life".wink wink wink

    1. earnestshub profile image86
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I get a picture from biblical claims of a tiny fairy screaming

      "WORSHIP ME OR DIE"

      1. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Or a really BIG one. God doesn't have to learn to live amongst others. We do. Can ANYONE deny that? The "Laws" you are referring to address issues that beings who have to share the planet (now there's a concept!) have to address in order to "Live as One" (Another impossibility) Had we been able to acheive this, then all the rest, speaking in a christian sense, would have been unnecessary. You got a job. Does or does not the owner of the business conduct himself by a different set of rules than the rules set for employees. No? Then park in his spot.

    2. aguasilver profile image87
      aguasilverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "Your money or your life"

      Not exactly, with God it's your 'life' that He wants...

      Matthew 6:33 (King James Version)

      But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

      You just got it back to front!

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    AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 6 years ago

    GOD supreme law is love. GOD sent Jesus to demonstrate this law to mankind. Man had to be shown how to live upon the earth with one another and the creation that surrounds him. GOD is not breaking any law by sending Jesus to save us.If man was created with instinct built into him like the rest of the species on earth, then there would be no need for GOD to send Jesus to save us. Mankind/humanity was created by GOD to have fellowship with him forever and ever. The law of love will give us this relationship with GOD that offer this first to man as far as we are concerned in the events of life on earth. GOD created man to the core of his being the law of love which runs this universe along with peace and free. So in the end the earth will be inhabited forever with GOD as man become the true being that he is to the core of his being.Example: A baby is born. He or she must grow up and learn how to walk , talk, etc... MANKIND has to learn how to love because this is the law of the universe which Jesus said when he was asked what is the greatest law to be kept.Jesus said that it was to love the lord your GOD with all of your heart, soul, and mind; and the second is this: to love your neighbor as yourself. These 2 commandments hang all of the laws of the prophet. It all comes down to this simple message: BE LOVE BE PEACE BE FREE and you will have fellowship with GOD forever because JESUS came and shown man what GOD is like and want you to be with him forever by saving mankind by showing the law of love for man to accept in JESUS CHRIST the law of love and transform man while on the earth to be love peace free. THIS IS THE SALVATION OFFER TO MAN BY GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE SPLIT IMAGE OF LOVE. RECEIVE THIS LOVE INTO YOUR LIFE. THANK YOU.

  6. Dale Nelson profile image33
    Dale Nelsonposted 6 years ago

    That question assumes that he governs by a set of laws.

    If there is any question about it, then your faith seeks the wrong answers.Just my opinion though.

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    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Did "God" break his own laws by sending Jesus to "save " us?


    The Creator- God Allah YHWH never breaks his laws. Jesus was never sent as son of god or god; it is total misunderstanding of the Christians.

    1. Druid Dude profile image60
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      HEY! Stop tryin' to convert the non-believers! St. Pete says the rosters full and no else is gettin' in!

      1. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        And you guy's who "Don't want to hear about God's and Sky Fairies. This is a great place to come to NOT talk about GOD'S AND SKY FAIRIES. Wake up in a daze? Either that, or you WANT TO BE CONVINCED. Just an obervation.

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        paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I don't mind if they get convinced of their mistakes.

 
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