an extremist in any religion is not following their true religion. so if we are talking about a christian that has went astray, has left the true christian faith. do we still call them christians just because they use to be christian. The attacks in India can we really call those people muslims, I do not think so. They have left their religion, and have basically become non believers. It is those nonbelievers through out the world that is giving religion a bad name, It is time we stop calling these people a name that includes the religion they use to be. lets leave it as extremist.
If you truly follow Gods instructions you will love you enemies, you will turn the other cheek, you will not attack people because they piss you off. all non believers want to blame religion because some one leaves their true faith because they want power, money or what ever excuse they have for leaving their true beliefs in God
I have a deal of respect for the cultural inheritance of what we consider to the norms of good and bad - none of it includes listening to voices in my head, and it definately does not include listening to the voices that others hear in their heads; following writings from people clearly suffering from mental illness and ego worship is mindless. You can ignore all the facts you like, but to come here and blabber meaningless words instead of answering the real questions is childish.
why not get back on the subject. why call some one a christian extremist or muslim extremist if they have left the true faith and become a nonchristian or a nonmuslim, just call them extremist or non believers, because they are not what they are called.
An extremist of anything is one who has gone beyond and clearly into something else. Is an anorexic focused on healthy weight? When a person rescues 40 cats and keeps them in one house, are they still an animal rescuer? I think when a person goes well beyond they step into something else. It applies to religion and everything.
My thread has plenty of wisdom from God, from His word, if you can not see that, then I will pray that God will open you understanding and give you a little wisdom also. It is 1:30 here so I had better get to bed, got to run around tomorrow and get some bills paid. so good night to all of you and God Bless all of you
well it might apply at individual level but if we make list of all those suicide bombers who blew up all around the world ..most eyed heaven or had political goal....and non believers in ideology cannot commit such acts...those who took plane to wtc or killed in mumbai were eyeing 72 virgins and heaven..while those who blew themselves in sri lanka were eyeing future where tamils would have their own country or atleast equal rights...
suicide bombers are complex beings..they dont just come from poor families..muhammad atta was not poor...top brass who trains these fanatics are well educated people...yes poverty is one issue but guess self image too is big big issue...they want something larger than life theme and community/heaven/praise from god/virgins etc fit the bill..
The majority of suicide bombers and for that matter terrorists come from well educated backgrounds and middle income families.
I can't remember if it was freakonomics or super freakonomics where they talked to a guy whos job was to collate accounts which matched identifiers which could posibbly signify whether someone was a terrorist or not based on financial transactions.
they are fooling themselves because they did not get what they wanted. a true believer would not commit such acts. only non believers could think they would gain anything by doing these things. a true believer believer will love their enemies, just like the Word of God says to do. I know non believers will misquote the word or take them out of context to try to do what they think they are doing
well it is easy to get rid of political ideological based extremism...but how to deal with people who claim to get direction from books whom they call holy?...how to convince them , they quote from some books and call it perfectly valid...take case of laden..isn't he educated? rich?..he is ..but he believes that he can threaten the world to submit to his version of religion ...and many people buy his way of thinking...only scholars can defeat them..ideology needs to be neutralized by ideology...
Your right. A true Christian will follow Jesus. "Christ"ian. Jesus spoke of love, forgiveness, peace. "Blessed are the peacemakers" The extremist are not following Jesus! The extremist who think they will have the virgins in heaven? There are no marriages in heaven.
who would want to marry if he gets 72 virgins without marrying ...on serious notes you have a point ..but all religious people belonging to any religion who love life must do something about misinterpretations of the books...like 72 virgins is very much a motivation factor for people blowing off themselves in iraq,afghan,pakistan ...they believe that they are serving their community and would be rewarded..ofcourse 72 is just part of reward...
stilljustwondering, the others just can not see that when some one leaves the word off God for their own will, they are no longer following the word, so they are no longer Christians but they are nonbelievers that are in the world. they can not reconize thier fellow nonbelievers
Well, I think they do believe in God unlike the non believer, but, I think Satan has entered into them and tricked them. They are no longer following the faith, they are following Satan. So they are no longer "Christians", or Muslims. Satan believes in God, he can also recite scripture. Satan changes the scripture a little bit to trick his followers. So, call them devil followers, or extremists. They think they are following God, but they are following Satan.
well it doesnot require super intelligence to write stuffs like some people would leave church..it is law of average..bible authors were only 2k years old..so their intelligence had risen to level that they can understand law of average...
Yeah, the majority of the world does believe in God, one faith or another. There are some in church who doesn't really follow God. You can not serve God and Mammon. Lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.
exorter there are a lot of people that leave church because of bad experiences. then they give people of faith a hard time, but that is ok, the word says that they will do that
Yeah, just smile and be happy. The Bible says it will happen. It means your doing something right.
Agreed WOC. For as Jesus said in the parable of the sower of seeds(word)Mark 4 verses 3 through 8.
I speak the word, to many it will fall on deaf ears Satan takes away the words sown in their hearts, some will hear and not understand when problems arise they reject the word and follow the pack mentality such as many non-believers on this site do.
Some hear the word but cannot give up the cares of the world, riches, lust, ego, pride and the word is useless to them.
I have read the quran and did not see that. I did read in it to love people of other religions including Christians, so they are not following their word of God, so they are not true muslims, which makes they really non believers
Maybe it is just me but the bible babblers seem to be getting less and less intelligent. I am beginning to miss old Goldenboots and where is jereboam when you need a semi-sane religioniser - and that horrendous hellfire and high horse woman, Bender or something like that, and the Polish soup woman and that real rock solid guy that I kinda liked but goldenboots chased him away, and some other guy who can post reams of meaningless scripturewithout even breaking wind. Come back - all is forgiven, please don't leave us here alone with these plonkers ! ! !
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