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Do you believe in Omens?

  1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
    IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago

    Do you believe in Omens

    Like for example, "Things happen in threes...."  Do they really?  Is this an example of how omens are to be revered?

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      ralwusposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I have witnessed that more than once with deaths in my own family. Just this last May, my eldest sister died, 2 weeks later our nephew died, then just a month later our great-nephew died.

      1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
        IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Working in a hospital, I see a lot of tragedies.  Which often do occur in 3's.  Someone will die on the table, and the next thing you know two more have passed post-op.  It can be eerie.

        1. Beelzedad profile image61
          Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Essentially, what you're saying is that each and every day, people die in post-op only in 3's?

          Or, maybe it's just that you focus on 3's and ignore the times people die in 1's, 2's, 4's, etc. because of the superstition surrounding events occurring in 3's?

          smile

          1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
            IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Dying on the surgical table isn't post-op.  Secondly if you would have read some of the other posts, and not just mine ( which seems like you are purposely stalking me only- which I will report) you would read where I've virtually tackled this topic with someone else already.smile

            1. Beelzedad profile image61
              Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              But, YOU said "post-op" you didn't say "surgical table"



              You've got to be joking. Disagreeing with you is stalking??? roll

  2. IntimatEvolution profile image83
    IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago

    So no one believes crossing a black cat is bad luck, or that a rabbit foot is considered lucky?  That surprises me.

    1. Beelzedad profile image61
      Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It surprises you that people actually don't believe in superstitions?  smile

      1. Arthur Fontes profile image90
        Arthur Fontesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I agree that superstitions are different than omens.

        If you see the sky getting dark during daylight hours it would be an omen of a coming storm.

        1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
          IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I view superstitions as a derivative from the meaning of omens.

          1. Arthur Fontes profile image90
            Arthur Fontesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Have you ever heard the saying red skys at night sailors delight?

            I find it true that when there is a bright red sunset the next days weather is usually mild.

            Superstition or Omen?

            1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
              IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Well you believe it is telling you of future events right?  That's considered an Omen.

              It's fried eggs, or is it over easy?  I mean...., it could be one in the same.  But the "oldest and root" word of the two; is Omen.

            2. Druid Dude profile image60
              Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              An ominous warning can be in your mailbox. A superstitious warning could too, but, I'll pay the electric bill, because, regardless of superstition, an ominous warning can come true. The buzzer proclaimed ominously that the plane was out of FUEL!!!

              1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
                IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Great explanation.

          2. Beelzedad profile image61
            Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            A superstition is considered an irrational belief arising from ignorance or fear while an omen is considered a sign of something to happen.

            Arthur Fontes offered the darkened sky resulting from an oncoming storm as an example, yet that is not a superstition, but more of an observation.

            Superstitions, by their very definition, have nothing to do with observations as they are irrational beliefs arising from ignorance or fear, hence it would appear that superstitions may be a derivative of something else, and for the most part appear to be derivatives of religions. smile

            1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
              IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Alrighty then........

              winkwink

              Omens and Superstitions are one in the same to me.  One in the modern form now has bared new meaning.  Ok.  Now what? 


              It's semantics.roll 

              However, whether someone believes that crossroads are the best place for black magic or not, is entirely different matter.  I would like to discuss that.  You might want to quote other people, if you want to chat about semantics.  As you can tell, it isn't my thing.smile

              1. Beelzedad profile image61
                Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Perhaps, a dictionary is in order.



                Seems more of a misunderstanding of definitions, kind of like the misunderstanding you had between secular and separate. wink 



                Feel free to discuss irrational beliefs. No one is stopping you. That's what this forum is all about.  smile

                1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
                  IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Oh I cannot stop laughing from your last post over in the angel forum.  Oh your a funny fella.

                  Okay now, lets get serious.lollollol
                  Okay I'm ready now.

                  People have differences of opinions about terminology all day, everyday, 365 days a year.  Big deal.  IT's SEMANTICS!!!  Lighten up.  I don't really care about your personal definition of the word or any term for that matter.  Big deal.  It is nothing personal.  I don't like to debate semantics. 

                  It is my belief that it does no good, and serves no purpose, and my "meaning of life" deems it to be a waste my breath, if I were to argue or start debating semantics with you.  Big deal!  Again, it is what it is.  Get over it.  There are plenty of people who like to argue that kind of stuff.  I'm not one of them.

                  _______________________________

                  With that all said and understood hopefully, I do like what you said here, "Feel free to discuss irrational beliefs. No one is stopping you. That's what this forum is all about."  I find that something to debate is my meaning.

                  First of all: I wasn't aware that YOU were HubPages. 
                  Secondly: I wasn't aware that I needed YOUR permission to discuss something in the forums.
                  Third: Well now that we know, thank you for the permission.  I'm much relieved!lol

                  1. Beelzedad profile image61
                    Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I'm glad you find me humorous, even when I'm not trying. Of course, that says more about you than me.



                    Many often claim semantics when they don't have a grasp of the English language.



                    I never offer personal definitions of words that are already clearly defined.  I can only conclude you don't care about using correct definitions.



                    I would agree with you, if in fact you were actually debating semantics. But, like you say, it is what it is.

            2. Druid Dude profile image60
              Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Sorry, Beelz. Little wordy.

        2. Beelzedad profile image61
          Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Perhaps, but I wouldn't use the term 'omen' in that context.

          As well, the link in the OP and the comments there were referring to superstitious beliefs. smile

      2. IntimatEvolution profile image83
        IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yes.  And,?????

  3. Arthur Fontes profile image90
    Arthur Fontesposted 6 years ago

    I do believe in Omens.  Although I would call it an awereness of one's surroundings.

  4. kirstenblog profile image80
    kirstenblogposted 6 years ago

    I only go for the good luck omens or whatever mostly cause I always welcome more good luck. No black cat has ever brought bad luck thinking this way big_smile (good thing too as my kitty visitor is a black one, she visits everyone on my block).

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    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Do you believe in Omens?

    It has no reality; it is simply being superstitious.

  6. alternate poet profile image77
    alternate poetposted 6 years ago

    Things happening in threes is a partly a mathematical result of how we think about doing anything.  Every action has a  beginning a middle and an end.  It is primary way of connectiong things 'as we see them' - and fractals (I believe) work on the mathemetical progression of threes, but I am not going to look it up for this.  Because it is our perception just means we are looking for it - the three deaths on the table is just how they are seen, over a period of time there are huge numbers and they will come in one's, two's three's and so on - we just note the three's.

    Omens specifically are generated by looking for some kind of guidance when we don't know what to do next. If three crows flying overhead mean go south when you are looking for 'guidance' it just means you don't notice all the many different numbers that fly over you every day - until you look.  To believe itmeans something you would have to believe in pre-destination in one of its guises.

  7. IntimatEvolution profile image83
    IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago

    That's a very common sense approach.  I understand what your saying.  But I do think there are those instances that still need to be looked at.

  8. SomewayOuttaHere profile image61
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...that 'things happening in 3's comes to mind for me'...i don't like it...unless of course it is good stuff.

    1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
      IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Did you get a chance to read what AlternatePoet wrote in the midst of the mayhem?  I found it very interesting at least.  They brought up the point that the 3's, might be a mathematical thought process natural to human beings.

      1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image61
        SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        yea...i did...it's more on emotional level when the 3's are very close in timing, and close to the heart, etc....like Rawlus' post....the intellectual take on it makes sense.

  9. IntimatEvolution profile image83
    IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago

    It is more than disagreeing with me.  For the last two days, you've been obsessed with my posts.  And my posts only.

    I'm done with you following me around, and being antagonistic.  We disagree, fine.  If that is all it is, then this is no big deal now is it? 


    If your stalking me is as innocence as YOU claim it to be, Hubpages well see it as such I'm sure. 

    But I'm tired of you picking fights with me, to pick fights.  I'm tired of you following me around.  If I wanted a pet puppy, I'd go out and get one.  However, I don't want one.


    By the way, thanks alot for turning this post into mayhem yet again.  You like highjacking threads for your own selfish purposes don't you?  Well......, that's against the rules also. 

    It's not all about you Beezie.

  10. IntimatEvolution profile image83
    IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago

    I wonder if it is our natural instinct to want to perceive it as an Omen?  Although, many scholars believe that humans don't have natural instincts.  However, I believe that we do. 

    I wonder if there is some truth to the idea that humans have a natural instinct "to want" or "to believe," like a built in coping mechanism perhaps.

    1. alternate poet profile image77
      alternate poetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Intimate - We do much much more than that - to operate every day we 'believe' a million things, like the stairs will be outside the door when you open it, the bus will come to a specific point etc - nothing is actually rock solid certain but we 'believe' in some things completely.  When we come home and look into our room, we don't 'see' them, we bring up the picture of the room from memory, that is how we see any tiny thing that has moved or changed, then we start recording what we see.  It is all only to do with information processing - even deja vu (I read in the Science Journal) is where the timing of our thinking goes out, and our (auto)memory kicks in a millisecond late and gets behind what we are actually seeing - so we are seeing what we remember a millisecond before.

      Most, if not all, 'strange' stuff has to do with the way the mind, eyes and other senses 'work' mechanically or electrically.

  11. profile image69
    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Do you believe in Omens?

    It has no reality; it is simply being superstitious and treading on the part of devolution in this age of scientific advancement.

  12. profile image69
    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    "an omen is considered a sign of something to happen"

    of course without any scientific basis or without any clear Revelation basis; hence it is simply superstition.

    1. IntimatEvolution profile image83
      IntimatEvolutionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Or is the superstition an omen?

 
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