Yes god exist as i beliefs.God who is creator of the world and take care of all account of sins and good deeds
Is god real? I would say that a dog is more real than the imaginary supposed god people seem to believe in.
you don't have proof of that any more than we can prove He exists....we believe by faith.......
So you have no proof and t'hat's the end of it
I usually don't try and convince non believers unless I see they are looking for it
And therefore nonbelivers I feel shouldn't insult the believer's beliefs. Leave them alone, let them be happy with it if it makes them happy and feel good and even inspires them to do great things..........
Again, YOUR imagination isn't real. Got it? I hope so.
If you need some assistance, look up the word REAL?
WOW and aren't you a sourpuss tonight!
Ever heard of live and let live Cags?
Christ is so REAL that He's standing next to both of us right now!
Are you trying to prove you point using the word " real" and the definition of it?! Very tricky.
It's not a trick. The "god" you supposedly pray to is in your imagination, but you refuse to admit it. You talk as though it's something of substance..hence real.
If you plan on doing that...it might help if you looked up the word "real" before you spout off claiming your imagined "god" is real.
Not a trick. It's called common sense.
I looked up real.
But why do you think there is no God? What would have to happen for you to believe in one??
It's not a matter of a opinion that there is no god. When you read the bible, and then study it's doctrine, which is supposedly inspired by a god and it's/his/her will, and put them into effect in your life.....
You are left with only one option- self realization of the hoax.
Only one option ??? Really ?? Are you sure ??
Who told you that ??? Or is the "fact" that there is only one option a figment of "YOUR" imagination
Another burnt out light bulb response. Come on man, you can do better than that.
Self realization is how we each operate. Grow some common sense would ya?
Well since I haven't seen none in such a long time and you say you got it all.... Hadn't seen any! could you please show me some and then I might emulate.
What haven't you seen? Common sense or had a self realization?
I think that you can read? You know what I was reffering to.
Ya Seem to have a problem focusing on reality sometimes and calling anything that ya got in your hands it. But maybe you will grow out of that.
Do you even know what the doctrines of the supposed god is?
I mean seriously....do you know? If not, go back and read your bible over again, because apparently you've not grasp any sort of understanding of it.
Are you judging me mr-I-have-all-the-answers cags? I will LOL even louder watching you go bersurk on the thread so sure you have THE ONE and only answer. Go ahead, look down upon me for willing everyone to find their own path in spiritual matters
You know regardless of what you believe, people are allowed to judge other people's actions. DUH! Or did you not know that? Well, if you didn't you do now.
Secondly, you do it all the time, but when someone does it to you, you don't like. Too bad.
This wasn't one of the brightest statements you've ever made, however, as I will repeat myself. I don't have nor do I claim to have all the answers to all questions. Learn to read.
Again, you fail to understand. I'm not looking down on anyone, and had you paid closer attention to the words I use, then you might have grasped that.
Secondly, learn what human spirituality is about, before you claim to understand it. Human spirituality is about love, love comes from your heart and nowhere else. Got it? I hope so.
Again... I can't tell if you are saying this to someone or you are reading someones mind.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Get a mirror and a dictionary CAgs!
You are calling Jerami a "burnt out light bulb" yet claim you look down on no one??? LOL Use words you understand and you won't look so foolish LOL
Edit...By the way, you don't think I needed your permission to laugh did you?
Cagsil, all the heart does is pump blood, the only thing coming from the heart is blood, love comes from the spirit of man or woman, check the dictionary for heart
well, I don't know about that. I haven't found any problems in it
You also don't live honestly by doctrine either
How on earth would you know that Cags? Do you know who she is, where she lives, or even her real name? Do you know where she attends church, what she believes, and what is in her heart? NOT LIKELY.
And if you do know then you must be omnicient? Are you ?
Easy enough, I studied religion and it's doctrines. Your actions direct oppose the doctrines, especially the first two.
These questions are irrelevant, because actions speak volumes. And, have nothing to do with the topic.
It doesn't matter if she attends church. Her beliefs are all over the forums, plus I've had private discussions with her, which YOU KNOW NOTHING about. So, don't assume you know Sh!t!
This was completely foolish to say considering YOU DO NOT KNOW enough about who I associate with, who I know, what I know(because you don't pay attention) or anything else. Next time, I suggest you learn to read closer or ask more worth while questions so you can get more information than you think you already have.
Notice I ASKED how you would know all this about one hubber
Really Cags, you attempt to come off as an "expert" in christianity (actually everything religious) but in reality - you are just a hubber with different ideas. When will you realize you are just like myself or anyone else?
Keep up with the disortations - I enjoy the laughter
Leave them alone, let them be happy with it if it makes them happy and feel good and even inspires them to do great things.......... like the inquisition, carrying that cross up the beach to each genocide colonisation, blabbering young Americans into Vietnam and all those other countries that weren't christian so don't matter, blowing the sh*t out of Iraq, . . . . . . .
Vietnam and Iraq had nothing to do with religion
I was in Vietnam about the spread of communism
i see it's the devil that has you confused
No relgion is going to Not be attacked by satan....obviously he wants to trick people
So -you see the bad parts or the flaws created by satan
I see the truth- w/ an awareness it can be intercepted by the evil one
You don't see all the good being a Christian does- I do
It inspires me, it makes me want to be an amazing person, to strive to be a great human being,
There are people who are into science and not God- who ARE very moral and nice people-yes
but the recipe for sainthood is the Catholic Church.............look up all the thousands of saints who did incredible things
aw come on man. we both know that the real reason america is in iraq is because of the damn money and oil industry. haven't you ever seen the news in the US or moore's documentary, capitalism a love story? we're all greedy corporate b***ards hiding behind religion. therefore, it's POWER and MONEY your really talking about.
Depends on what you consider god to be.
Even scientifically no one can surely say that there is no FORCE that keeps everything together and as it is.
The question you should ask yourself is, do you like the way things are? If you could, what would you change? If the answer is nothing, then just enjoy your life
why are you posting two threads with the same question? It's almost like spam the way you are presenting yourself.
...finally someone has posted a good, clear question!...good luck with that haj3396!
CAN'T respond honestly until I know what this god thing is you refer to...can you tell us?
if god is not real I am certain there will be a lot of pissed-off people, but then again, they would never find out would they?
Yes and the truth is marching on. Thank you for this question aquasilver. Now to respond to the dog is more real then the imaginary god we believe in. Now dog spell backward is GOD. I have never seen a dog with a free will and ability to choose to do and create everything and anything that humanity can do. SO IN GOD WE TRUST. The heavens declare the GLORY of GOD.Now see what kind of your dog is more real results you get than our imaginary god results. Remember be not deceived, whatsoever a man soweth, that is what he reapeth. You can sow your the dog is more real then our imaginary god. Look at the results. Our real GOD wins hands down because he created the dog and everything in the universe the visible and invisible. Case is closed. Thank you. Go in peace.
Great more people who cannot tell the difference between real and fake sh!t.
Look at their faces! the little boy don't like doing it. The girl looks like she isn't sure and the gird far right thinks something is funny .... And it isn't.
I agree. nothing right about putting hate signs is the hands of children.
I agree, that's so sad teaching children to hate God.
How can you possibly turn that around - they are only five words or so and they all start GOD HATES - your selective vision is as amazing as your selective reading !
alternate poet, let me break this down in pieces so you can understand. Whoever put the disgusting posters in the 3 children hands are teaching innocent children to hate God. It's cruel and it's a disgrace. I have not turned anything around. I made myself clear the first time, and it amazes me how you enjoy playing childish games.
earnestshub one thing for sure the people that put the signs in the hands of those children are not christians
kind of looks like some one that has had religious training
i find it comical that some of you atheists in this forum attack the religious hubbers logic like you often accuse religious folk of doing in real life. gee..i guess that makes you all a bunch of hypocrites here.
The problem is that God has been monopolized and commodified for generations. So now no one has an actual sense of what God is. God is not what Christians believe, a single entity being waiting for us in heaven. God is the concept of ONEness that we have strayed so far from. It is scientific fact that we are all made up of the same materials that make up everything else in existence. We are not special, simply conscious. Our physical DNA is actually used more for frequency interpretation than it is for genes. Everything gives off vibrational frequencies that are determined by whatever it is. SO our DNA is affected, in essence formed by all of those frequencies, and thus shapes us accordingly. That is God! The entire existent universe that we are simply too unconscious to be able to comprehend is God. And when you set about living a healthy, loving life, you will discover the Truth about God, because your life will become "blessed". It will become more enjoyable and fulfilling once you realize that you are a part of everything, and thus a part of God, and thus you are God.
God is a concept,
By which we can measure,
I'll say it again,
God is a concept,
By which we can measure,
I don't believe in magic,
I don't believe in I-ching,
I don't believe in bible,
I don't believe in tarot,
I don't believe in Hitler,
I don't believe in Jesus,
I don't believe in Kennedy,
I don't believe in Buddha,
I don't believe in mantra,
I don't believe in Gita,
I don't believe in yoga,
I don't believe in kings,
I don't believe in Elvis,
I don't believe in Zimmerman,
I don't believe in Beatles,
I just believe in me,
Yoko and me,
And that's reality.
The dream is over,
What can I say?
The dream is over,
I was dreamweaver,
But now I'm reborn,
I was the walrus,
But now I'm John,
And so dear friends,
You just have to carry on,
The dream is over.
- John Lennon
ladies, gentlemen, and cagsil (since i know he doesn't consider himself a normal guy, as i don't think of myself as being normal either. ) look, regardless of how any us feel if there is a god or that there isn't a god. the point is no matter what religion or lack thereof you believe in, that we all want universally the same things in life. Peace, love and prosperity. However, to attain that we must all develop tolerance for each other's beliefs. You don't have to agree with them, but you should never ridicule and attack their beliefs by calling it nonsense just to make yourself feel good, or to prove a point. Seriously, I see a lot of atheists in these religious forums claim and make fun of how many religious folks push their religion down everyone's throats...even though one could make an argument they're doing the EXACT SAME THING HERE IN FORUMS! Pushing their believes and ridiculing those that don't believe in what they believe that god isn't real. Seriously, atheists or doubters, that makes you exactly like the same people you mock and question, that you accuse of doing the same thing, when you do that.
Did Martin Luther King Jr. attack and villify white people to get equal rights back in the day? hell no. he did it by being BETTER than the oppressors that fought his ideals by preaching equality and compassion. Something many of you would be wise to remember.
I'm not saying religion isn't responsible for a lot of things. Heck, it's already proven statistically more wars are started over religion than anything else. However, is that really god's fault? I don't think so, as humanity is it's own worst enemy. We mock those that are openly different from us, yet we preach about peace and equality. That's a laugh if you mock others for not believing in things the same way you do. Want to know why? Because until humanity starts to realize that outside our damn cultural and economic differences, then we're all basically same. Plus, I hate to break it to all of you reading this, but even if you did get rid of people believing in god, then that still leaves the evil forces of money.
Yes, money is still a form of power and control, and those that have it will always be in control. Therefore, if you really want peace, then money needs to be eradicated too.
It's man's freaking greed and selfishness that causes this hell on earth we live in today. Not god. You say god lets cruel and unusual things happen all the time like Katrina? Yeah, I'll give you that, but what would happen if he did do everything for us? What would happen if you just spoiled your child and gave them EVERYTHING in life? Where they never had to work for anything in their lives and all they had to do was say, "hey dad/mom, buy me that." And then you did. How do you think they'd turn out? They'd probably end up acting like selfish brats right? That's exactly why god doesn't get involved in everything, as it would make our world depend on him too much and it would inhibit our growth as race. Seriously, would you want an invisible entity doing EVERYTHING at your beck and call? Or would you rather do it yourself, and take pride in knowing you did all by yourself?
Look, I'm not here to sway anyone here in this forum one way or another, as I firmly believe people are believe what they want to believe. As I have yet to meet anyone that's different...well except one person I was priviledged to meet, but she's not in this forum. Anyways, the point is that I know many of you want world peace, and i do too. however, i think the key first step to that is understanding and tolerance. Don't mock and ridicule someone's belief just because you don't believe in it. No, be better than that like Martin Luther King Jr. did. Only then will we finally see a true heaven on earth.
The one matter many do not consider is this term "GOD." Even the ancient Hebrews stated that this term is given to all beings that comprehend that which is right and that which is wrong. Problem is that this only fits the definition of morality and the Hebrews did not attach "behaviors" to the end of their own definition. To be truly moral, we must understand behaviors have a lot to do with "morality." As such, every being is a "God" unto him/her self, that understand the difference between good and bad "behaviors." Throughout history peoples within religions behave erratically because they live lives thinking themselves to be moral individuals regardless of how they behave. As long as they feel that it is in line with their faith and "God (s)" they could care less what anyone else thinks. It is why so many resort to violence and murder to "defend" words or a God they have yet to understand FOR were it all loving they would not commit such offensive acts against humanity. First of all one of the most ancient faiths in Egypt taught that the Lord of Creation created all of us to be Gods unto ourselves UNDER him. Any other entity was also worshiped as a god. Though many sects, only one LORD and "creator" of all things.
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