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Are devils ruling god these days?

  1. maruthirp profile image59
    maruthirpposted 6 years ago

    I think god is unable to help people these days just because devils are ruling god these days. As per an Indian Philosopher it happens before this universe ends. Are the devils really ruling god?

    1. Shadesbreath profile image90
      Shadesbreathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yep.  It's terrible.  But what are you going to do, you know?  I've taken to drinking heavily and doing mean things to cats with a fork.

      1. maruthirp profile image59
        maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I am serious and not making any fun here.

        1. SiddSingh profile image60
          SiddSinghposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I don't think he is making any fun either. The things that he is doing - all symbols of moral decadence - the moral fabric is crumbling - devil has taken over.

          1. maruthirp profile image59
            maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You are right moral fabric is crumbling that too in rapid pace.

            1. Pearldiver profile image87
              Pearldiverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Well Mate..... Don't Bleet About It!!! sad

              At Your Age... You Should Know What Fibre Does to the Diet! hmm
              Have you Always Held a Grandiose Point of View or do you Genuinely Believe you are Better morally than others? hmm

              Did you see what the laborers did in the sinks at the Games village? 
              - Alot of Moral Fibre was left splattered all over the athlete's sleeping quarters and in their handbasins!! sad

              {moral fabric is crumbling that too in rapid pace}
              - A bit like the Con job that the Indian Government pulled to get the Commonwealth Games... Much of the construction is crumbling as well... hmm
              Is That What You Meant? hmm

              Why Are You PREACHING Here? roll

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      Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What is up with all these questions around here about God being wimpy and such?!

      No, the devils do not rule God.
      But the devil certainly does "rule" a lot of people.

      1. maruthirp profile image59
        maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You are true that devil rule a lot of people. That time god help them to fight against them. But these days god too had been help less.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          God is never helpless!
          He can do anything He wants to do!

          You're right that the moral fabric of society is crumbling.
          But it isn't because God is helpless.  It's because mankind is sinful.

          1. maruthirp profile image59
            maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Mankind becomes sinful when devil powers to be so. That time god must save them from devils and kill the sinfulness which is not happening.

          2. srwnson profile image60
            srwnsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Very true Brenda. It seems that people in the modern world believe less and less in the devine. They are content to question God and not recieving an answer through white noise or whatever they expect, they dismiss him. Should we consider this a sign of the times? The truth is, as I travel the highways of our land, I see more and more signs of his presence. Its difficult for non-believers to accept such signs, but common and clear for those who believe. Remember, God is with us. Christ loves us and stands by us through the heartaches of mortal life. Brenda, keep travelers in your prayers, God bless you in your endeavors.

            God Bless those who pray for them.

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              Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Amen.  God bless you too srwnson.  smile

      2. ceciliabeltran profile image84
        ceciliabeltranposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The devil is just a shadow in the human psyche, you know that sort that turn from ugly old hags to beautiful enchantresses when you recognize that it is an aspect of the psyche you are distorting with your rejection.

        example. Stealing, people who steal are distorting the good desire to care for oneself. Killing, killing is a distortion of self protection. Self protection is not evil but the narrowness of the approach of doing it becomes a shadow. Once you are able to recognize the good intent, then the cause for killing because a cause for living better. 

        HAVEN'T YOU GUYS LEARNED ANYTHING FROM BEDAZZLED? the good and the bad work together to create a tension for the growth of the human consciousness/spirit.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2ef3D6 … re=related

    3. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I don't think so!

         Maybe God is sitting back some and watching until the 42 months is finished that the beast was given to Blaspheme all that it can.

        But when the 42 months is over he is goina come our swinging.

        At least that is what I'm expecting to see happen.

      1. maruthirp profile image59
        maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You think the 42 months period has started?

        1. Jerami profile image77
          Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Even by using the old standard that is taught in church, that a day on earth is as a year in prophesy  ,,which I believe is wrong!!   
             Would that be sometimes???  Or is a day  ALWAYS as a year??
             If it is ? .. It is !!
             If it doesn't  it doesn't,
             All the time.
             
             In 538 BC  Gabriel told Daniel that in 62 weeks they are going to kill the Messiah!
            568 years later they did !! 
            If the above is true...  A day = approx 1.3 of our years

             42 months would be approx 1650 of our years.
                            OR     
             If a day ia as a year ...  42 months is 1260 years.

             I prophet time is different that earth time ?
             It is DIFFERENT ALL the TIME !

             YES !!   The forty two months began a long time ago!

          1. maruthirp profile image59
            maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            This is very good information @Jerami. Thanks a lot for you.

            1. Jerami profile image77
              Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              It is my opinion that consistency is a requirement in life if we want to achieve a desired purpose.

                 If we want to understand prophesy we have to be consistent in our Logical processes.

                As I've said many times... I think that this time comparison is essential for understanding prophesy.

                And when we understand the prophesy we understand the rest of scripture  differently.

              1. maruthirp profile image59
                maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                It must be right from childhood. And to understand at this age I must do a degree in prophesy.

                1. Jerami profile image77
                  Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I think that you have to study the prophesy themselves, and not study other peoples interpretations.

                     Studying other peoples interpretations will only lead you in circles.

                     As you said ..  "It must be right from childhood". 
                  Ya gotta build a solid foundation that can not be changed to conform to interpretations of things that were written much later.

                    Accept the word of the earliest prophesy and build your own belief system upon that.

    4. anime_nanet profile image59
      anime_nanetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I think I done it! my name in all first pages forums!

    5. Dave Mathews profile image61
      Dave Mathewsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Satan/the devil can never rule over the power of God.God is all powerful. Satan does take control over man though if permitted, and also over such things as weather, until God tells him enough is enough.

  2. thirdmillenium profile image70
    thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago

    Bible says Satan is the present lord of this world. He will be vanquished at Christ's second coming. One of his purposes for coming down is that.

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I wish Christ to come down as soon as possible.

      1. Pearldiver profile image87
        Pearldiverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        He will Not Save Your Cricket Team! lol

        1. thirdmillenium profile image70
          thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Cricket team? why? That is the only saving grace in the Indian landscape. Rest of the sports is down in the dumps

          1. maruthirp profile image59
            maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            @thirdmillenium That's right.

        2. maruthirp profile image59
          maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          What has cricket team done specially?

          1. Pearldiver profile image87
            Pearldiverposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I have seen them many times playing like Devils! yikes

            1. thirdmillenium profile image70
              thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              You said it but let us not hijack the topic

              1. maruthirp profile image59
                maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Right. We must be in topic.

            2. maruthirp profile image59
              maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Every team is behaving same way. Can any one say no?

              1. thirdmillenium profile image70
                thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Hey you did not get what pearldiver has said

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        Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Are you ready for it?
        Is your soul saved?

        1. maruthirp profile image59
          maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I did not get what exactly do you mean.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            The only way to be saved is to accept Christ as your Savior, repent of your sins.   When Christ comes back, He will only take with Him those who've done that.   The rest are doomed to eternal punishment.

            1. maruthirp profile image59
              maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Will there be any big punishment than living in this world?

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                Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Some people believe people will be left on this world to live.
                I do not.
                According to the Bible, when Jesus comes back, it's a done deal, no second chances, it will be the end of the world.
                The time to choose Him is while you're alive.  The dead cannot choose anything.

                1. maruthirp profile image59
                  maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I had chosen him by birth and a lot more have done same as me.

  3. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    Maybe god if there is one or many, expects us to figure things out for ourselves . Why do many see god as a Lifeguard on the beach?

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      From my childhood I had learned god as the same.

  4. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    teaching god leaves the student without his own .

  5. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    they depend on each other for comparison
    gods need devils
    devils need gods. other wise both are unemployed.

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You mean we must accept god for some time and devil for some time?

  6. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    no its all greek myth to me
    im building a better god. one of my own. current ideas are dusty books.

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Looking a bit crazy.

  7. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    there is no we. i think for myself. there is no we in god. i think

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I am true. You are crazy.

  8. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    Ok  lets try this, a direct answer to the forum question  you posted. my answer is . NO  their not

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Can you proove it?

  9. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    can you prove otherwise?

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Moral crumble in humans is the example to prove it.

  10. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    I am not claiming righteousness . I know enough to know i dont know. spero in dio. i hope in god . i dont insist on one

  11. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    nor do i blame one, ask of one or misrepresent one.

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I appreciate your personality. I wish every one to be like you.

  12. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    for man to blame a god or a devil  for our own animalistic deeds is to shirk a personal accountability that is the direct cause i think to the downfall of  decency we are continually witnessing in society

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      In other words selfishness. Am i right?

  13. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    and i wish no man to be like me, think like me or believe like me. i hope them to strive to be better than me

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I met a great personality today. I wish to be your fan.

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    AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 6 years ago

    No. He was kicked out of heaven trying to dethrone GOD which is to rule over GOD. The coup failed. He then roam the universe to see where he could rule over and settled on with the earth. You are seeing the results of him ruling over the earth now. Mankind has a free will to kick him out of their lives here on the earth like GOD did in heaven along with the other angels that joined him. How do you kick the devil and his workers out of your life? This is how you do it on the earth where you are living now. By being love being peace being free. I am being love peace free in my own life and get the results of the devil being kicked out of my life for good like GOD kicked him out of heaven. The devil can not stand in the presence of love peace free. However he will stick around you and see if he can bring you to his side. He does that to me even though he knows he does not have a chance in hell with me because of my choose moment by moment. LOVE PEACE FREE is how you overcome and kick the devil and his workers out of your life. Just know that he will hang around you to wear you down and bring you to his side but he can not make you to go to his side. I am a witness to this because I live this every moment of every day of my life. Thank you. Go in peace.

  15. Jerami profile image77
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    That beast is given 42 months that it will commit blasphemy.
    (approx 1650 years)  or (1260 years)
      Satan gives his power and his seat to that beast.
      Satan is then bound in the pit for 1000 years,

      After the 1000 years are finished he will be released for a little season at which time he will gather the kings of the earth to the great battle.  (Rev. 20:8)
      Four seasons in a year.   i/4 of a year, so 13 prophetic weeks or 119 of our years.   

       After he is released the sixth vial is poured out and the Dragon, Beast and False prophet is seen in the dried up river bed of the Euphrates river.  Spirits come out of their mouths to gather the kings of the earth together for battle.
    (Rev 16:12 and 13)

      The battle mentioned in these two chapters are the same battle.

      That is the only way that prophesy seems to maintains any form of consistency;  at least in my opinion.

     
       I have to leave to go give a home repair estimate,
    back later.

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I never read Bible thoroughly. I must read more to learn it well.

      1. Jerami profile image77
        Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I would suggest you begin ...  in the beginning ...        of prophesy.
         
          It is difficult to pinpoint the "First" prophetic message ..
        so lets start with Isaiah 44.  (Approx 700 BC)

           Isaiah 44:28 "that says of Cyrus , he is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure, even saying to Jerusalem, thou SHALT be BUILT ... "
            This is in reference to Daniel 9:25

            Then Jeremiah  ( 625 to 605 BC)
              Jerusalem shall serve the king of Babylon for 70 years.
              Daniel 2 7 & 8 ...  There will be four kingdoms given dominion over that Hebrew Nation.
              Daniel 9:23  THE commandment has COME forth
              Daniel 9:25  Know therefore and understand that from the time the commandment goes forth to build Jerusalem unto Messiah the Prince shall be 69 weeks.
              Daniel 9:27  It shall be 62 weeks and then they will kill the Messiah.
              This  IS  a time line comparison that everyone wants to ignore !    WHY?

             And when we read Matthew chapter 24 we should read chapter 23 first and then continue on into chapter 24.

            When we do this we receive a different understanding of scripture than the one we learn by reading any of the many books of interpretations.

          We are to read it ourselves and develop our own unhindered interpretation.

  16. janni321 profile image60
    janni321posted 6 years ago

    Q.Who made all the devils?

    A. God

    Q. Who made Satan the master of all devils?

    A. God

    Q. Then who is the real devil?

    A. ?
    just answer my last question

    1. Jerami profile image77
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I took a bowl out of the pantry.
         I put 3 cups of flower in the bowl.
         I added baking powder to the bowl.
         I added a cup of sugar
         I added some cinnamon butter and egg.

         I added water and put it in a skillet.

         With the reasoning that you used
      I guess that makes me be the pancake.

      1. stilljustwonderin profile image62
        stilljustwonderinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Good Morning Pancake!

        Thing is, Lucifer was an angel.  Just like us, God gave the angels a free will.


        Q. Then who is the real devil?

        A. ?
        just answer my last question

        Lucifer and the angels who chose to follow him.

        1. maruthirp profile image59
          maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Where from this Lucifier has come? I did not follow you answer.

    2. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      @janni321 You mean devils are created by GOD because he is the creator?

    3. anime_nanet profile image59
      anime_nanetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      piu piu yeah yeah!

  17. Jerami profile image77
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    Good morning stilljustwonderin!  Have a pancake on me.

      Hope all is well in VA.

    1. stilljustwonderin profile image62
      stilljustwonderinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      All is well.  However ya did make me hungry for pancakes! 
      Hope everything is good in Texas!

  18. anime_nanet profile image59
    anime_nanetposted 6 years ago

    Wow a fellow forum troller!

    How are u fagg?

  19. anime_nanet profile image59
    anime_nanetposted 6 years ago

    I'm giving up in  couple of minutes. It's imposible to keep up with so many forum posters. Hubpages really has grown

    1. maruthirp profile image59
      maruthirpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah. It's True.

 
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