Still a young child sought to make a name for himself,
Through the vast pipeline we learned a different thought persuasion; ~
One needed rest on some long awaited vacation;
In the distance a Pullman car drives through ! Face the facts then smell the aroma of the coffee; Eat a lot of fresh fruit; Grapefruit helps eliminate some belly fat ! ~
Through a tea leafed branded ivy dew chair;
We long to make a big difference !
Some may even dream to care,
A powerful shoulder to cry on ! ~
The fashonable cry of some helpless passerby;
To store up enough energy just to make it through ? Some have bit off more then they can actually seem to chew, Just ask God he will tell you what you all need to do ! Others simply haven't a single solitary clue ?
I think the clues are out there, and there are many good people who have more than "a clue." I personally don't choose to congregate with many who don't have a clue. I elect to associate with people who like believing that the clues will be revealed, if not already known. In other words, it's the people I surround myself with. They share all kinds of clues that are encouraging to me.
This is from a wise A$$ man ! What I meant was in today's society our culture has become way too desensitized from right and wrong; Today, many have accepted the anything goes way ! I'm not sure if it's from what the counter culture movement left us, Rather, we as a nation need to get back to prayer. Personally I'm a Catholic with a strong belief in Jesus Christ. When I said society has no clue it clearly meant that we as a nation have turned our backs on God. Now is the time to repent and come back to our first love. Thank you kindly, Mario Vitale
I don't think it's nice to say people are "off their rocker" when they are clearly just stating how they feel! I realize your beliefs are far different than mine but I do not say you are off your rocker! It's your business how you feel! Making remarks about someone says something about the type of person you are... if someone doesn't agree with your beliefs then they must be crazy!
My argument is not false... it is not true freedom if one cannot pray in schools! It should be their right just as it should be someone's right not to pray!
I would agree if they prayed while being taught! There is a time and place for everything! I am saying if the person wants to pray over their food before they eat then they should be able to. It's called freedom Cagsil! I don't think they should start praying right in the class... that would interfere with their learning!
In the way you speak... it is okay to take away someone's freedom if it agrees with your beliefs! But if someone took away something you believe strongly in then you would object! That is double standard my friend!
Can't we all pray silently, quietly in our own way without putting on a show? Colossions 4:6 says something about that... "Let your speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person." (New American Standard Bible) We do not need to be pushy about how we believe. It seems we have more influence with others when we are not.
cagsil, you need Jesus in your life. When prayer was in school, none of us didn't hear of all this violence in school. Now, very often we hear on the news of children bringing guns to school, shooting, and stabbing other students. Prayer is powerful and it makes a major difference.
When I went to school, we had daily prayer time before school, and even a bible study class before school to all who wanted to attend. It was not mandated and there were many students who didn't want to participate so they stayed out on the playground, till the bell rang. No one was forced to join in, infact they were not in the room at all.
It didn't hurt anybody, and I don't see the harm in it. It was time set aside before school began.
"When prayer was in school, none of us didn't hear of all this violence in school."
I call BS on this. The worst incident of school violence occurred in Bath, Michigan in 1927. 43 people killed in a deliberately set explosion, 39 of them were students.
Institutionalized prayer and religious instruction were not removed from schools until 1949.
Plus, in 19th century America, especially in rural areas, the schoolteacher often was threatened and attacked by the older students, who sometimes succeeded in running the schoolmaster out of town. Student-on-student violence was not uncommon, either, though the weapons used have changed from fists to sticks to chains to knives to guns.
And then there was the good ol' practice of corporal punishment, which in my book totally counts as violence: one person hitting another, sometimes with a weapon (like a switch or a paddle).
In fact, you could even make the argument that violence in schools was even more common (though admittedly less deadly) back when institutionalized prayer was allowed.
Thank you all for voicing your opinions; In my view let us want to keep prayer alive; Yet when mandated to do so in it's proper place You all don't have to be Johnathon Edwards screaming at the top of your lungs ! Just be yourself in a very loving way; If people simply don't agree continue to pray for them.
well the history books lie. Math is mandatory up to quantum level. Geography changes and has changed. Physical education cant seem to get the fat of young kids. Science is still a practice but never a finished product. Seems the delusion is already in place. oh for a quiet time of peaceful prayer nothing quite like it!
Wow, Prayer in schools is the only way to ensure religious freedom? Really? Whose prayers, what religion? The only way to ensure religious freedom is to keep it out of the schools. Once they start allowing prayer in school the choices of those who do not believe or who believe differently are being infringed upon. How is that freedom? Our children have no choice about attending school. We cannot simply opt out, therefor allowing prayer in school would be subjecting many students to teachings that are in disagreement with what they or their families believe.
I dont think they should be forced to pray...or be subjected to prayer in a group-like setting! But I do think freedom should go both ways! A child should be allowed to pray if he wants! It is called freedom!!
Thank you all for your fine concerns; It's basically up to the individual if he or she want to submit, No one can't have their heart beat something it won't.., There needs to be an initiative on the part of the individual; Prayer can help but their has to be work to see the process come into effective.
"Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our concious contact with God, as we understood him praying for understanding for his will, Praying only for knowledge of his will for us and the power to carry that out." - Step 11, describes this prayer addage, Also : The example of Jesus " Our father who our in heaven hallowed be thy name, * ( These are just two examples given that I could share): You have a heavenly father who loves you and knows your needs; Still one has to be willing to yield to what the sovereign Lord wants from his children; I other words you can't let your heart beat something it simply can not. ( Our world today has become much too desensitized to even grasp this notion of thought ?), Becoming zombie like in nature ever since the end of the 50's and 60's when being liberal was accepted as he norm..., * Prayer can help but you have to be humble enough to let it work in your life, ( Such as faith being the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things to come, without it it's totally impossible to please God.) Heb 11.1 and 6.
You all don realise you is all goin ter hell. I dun red near four hole pages of a book once and there wos this hole load of people bigotting and begatting one another and i seed the lite and was born agin into jeesus.
An you can just wotch out! i got this cutty pastey thing and I is gonna cut an paste loads of things i don unnerstand into these here forums cos i luv yer.
I am being nice - if I was being not nice it would show.
I am trying to show the imbecility of the god nonsense and the semi-literate unreasoning herds of sheeple who mill around in confusion - and then post their semi-literate rubbish in this WRITERS FORUM.
Have a good night friends. Invite Jesus Christ into your hearts and you will all be the richer for it; Excuse my spelling, cause I was using Chinaman's pen and it exploded on his intellectually desensitized skull ! Yet I will forgive his horse yet not him. Leaving it up to God for restoration. O.K chinaman your forgiven, there I said it and may God bless you too !
China man this is a writer's place! And I'm a writer! I've been published a few times! However, these are also called "forums" for people to post in...and since it has forums also...therefore you get people posting threads! And these forums have many different categories... one of such being Religion! So, when you have relgious forums you will get religious threads! Common sense??? I think so!!! So...with that being said...I think you are asking a little much! You want the religious category in the forums to be about what???
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