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    sandra rinckposted 6 years ago

    Tired of all the religious threads filling up the HP forum?  Are you sick to death of people telling you that you are bad and wrong for not believing in any god? 

    Are you sick of trying to have a real discussion with people when suddenly your thread is derailed by religious ideologies who steal and claim works that were never theirs to begin with, theirs?

    Do you get exorbitantly angry when religion uses other peoples works from people who are not one of them, and say that they were just to get ahead?

    Are you tired of being the minority and shouted to death over how wrong and bad your 'minority' status is and how much of a threat you are to the world even though you have never actually done anything wrong?

    Are you tired of every single site being overhauled with religious post, cut and paste, burn in Hell type of stuff that you feel like you are being bullied into never talking about how you really feel about these things?

    If you answered yes, then please tell everyone how you really feel. 

    You don't have to direct your post towards anyone so you don't get banned by someone who had taken something personally.  You don't have to respond to the "off to the gallows" echo calls from the religious folks who most always will fill the thread up anyways with more of their ridiculousness.

    I doubt much of anyone will post here anyways because Atheist are minorities, expected to just submit to everything.  You are expected to sit down and shut up like religions teach you.  You are expected to chase your tail and just be happy that you aren't out getting your head chopped off for not believing in such things that want to kill you.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image21
      Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I did not like preacher when they get serious about hell and frighten people to convert them. It works because most people are run by fear rather than love, and I'm fearless. The downside of atheist is a positive imagination as evident downsides within your post.  Science, in which is one branch in the tree of life, is all you have to offer, without the positive imagination. Then the bullies will win again. After being on a few atheist websites, not one atheist will tell me what their downside is. Until then, the 3% atheist will NOT exceed 5% of the world population and lead in public office. Other wise, I would help them by coaching or cheering them along.

    2. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this



      I was not aware that they were doing this everywhere and not just here at HP. Figures though. Sounds like they got together and had a meeting...smile

      Hawking their religion is part of their bylaws. It is not going to go away. And reason doesn't work with them. I guess we just have to accept them as we do flies, gnats, and other pests.

      Private entity websites do have the legal right to ban religious posts… Sooner or later, the backlash of being buried in religious posts will result in more and more websites exercising their right to ban them. But it will probably be awhile yet.smile

      1. Castlepaloma profile image21
        Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        paradigmserch

        I would not want atheist banned. Its just better to have a plan and reason will work, just not alone. Often I like insults, they help me grow.

        1. paradigmsearch profile image89
          paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It's the religionists that “everyone” wants banned, not the atheists. Re-read the OP.smile

          1. Castlepaloma profile image21
            Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            paradigmserch
            Are you telling me many religious kinds do not want to ban atheists?

            Try talking about atheist on many religious sites. Both ways, no need to ban religious fight clubs, just shirk them into the spiritual age. Most kid today are spiritual rather than religious, just many of the older religious types are hanging on.

            1. paradigmsearch profile image89
              paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this



              Oh, my! We appear to be in agreement on this one!smile

              1. thevoice profile image59
                thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                once again its your right to write any where you want God is by choice not force degradation abuse or control. THis why many religions hate freedom of choice in God Jesus the holy spirit

                1. thevoice profile image59
                  thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I have been on both sides of this fence in God atheist now the points  are war must end peace freedom must come thirty thousand children are dying every day we argue about human nonsense believe what you will but help save the earth the human race for all people

                  1. Pcunix profile image87
                    Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    It would be really nice if you would learn a bit about punctuation.

          2. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
            schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            crap

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        Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        To be a religious person means, that you can rely on somebody (God)who will help you if you pray hard, who will solve your problems, who will guide you through your life. Who will wipe your tears and share your joy. Isn't it wonderful? For atheist it is just YOU on one end -  huge unknown Universe one the other. No one but yourself to solve your problems, no one but YOU to correct your mistakes and find the right decisions. There is no community for you to come and share your common beliefs or ask for a help when you need one. For most that nakedness of your soul is unbearable, unbelievable. They prefer that religious "cushion" to fall upon.
        What's your pick?

        1. DevLin profile image59
          DevLinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Being on my own.

        2. paradigmsearch profile image89
          paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Just because it would really be nice for something to exist (God), doesn’t mean that it automatically does exist. To be able to wish something into existence would be quite a feat indeed.smile

          PS I, for one, hope you are right!smile

          1. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
            schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            saying i hope you are right means your agnostic anyways i don't care, the point is the OP made many false statements and it's crock. I'ts you guys who pick on us.

            1. Cagsil profile image61
              Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Pick on you? lol lol

              Now, that's funny. lol

              1. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
                schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                funny to you!

                1. Cagsil profile image61
                  Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  This thread isn't FOR YOU to be in, so why are you here?

                  So, you can boost your faith a little more? Hmm....?

                  1. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
                    schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    then why do you constantly come into the Christian forums?
                    Are you practice what you preach or not?

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              sandra rinckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              But you came here.  So who came to pick on who?  I asked atheist to say what they really think.  Instead there are five pages of believers making this their stomping ground...again.

              1. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
                schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                you do it to us.
                otherwise I wouln't smile
                it's a stupid thread

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                  sandra rinckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Even though I have never posted to you?

                  1. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
                    schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Your opening statement I felt was very insulting, that is why I am here my dear woman sandra. Why do we have to insult others when we are all nice people??

    3. thisisoli profile image56
      thisisoliposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I was actually tempted to start a thread asking for them to remove the religion forum. It serves no purpose here other than to cause needless arguments.

      This is a site for writers, and those looking to make money online foremost.  I feel as if the forum should reflect that.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image89
        paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this



        Alas; the ongoing, never ending religion debacles generates lots and lots of website traffic. My best guess is that HP wants that.smile

      2. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I said that months ago

    4. Pcunix profile image87
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I don't shut up.

      I tolerate religion the same way I tolerate neighbors with dogs. Keep 'em reasonably quiet and out of my yard and we will get along fine. Otherwise, yes, I will speak up and loudly.

      I don't mean your dog can never bark and that you can never say anything religious, I do mean that I don't particularly like dogs or religion, but if I don't have to have much direct interaction, we should all be fine.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image89
        paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Well, God Bless!smile

        Pcunix's statement is very well said. I humbly agree with it 100%!

    5. Stump Parrish profile image61
      Stump Parrishposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I used to get PO'd at some of the rediculous crap that gets passed around as knowledge by the religous folks outthere until I discovered this little fact. 8 of the least educated states in America are in the top 10 most religous states here. I simply consider the source and make an educated guess as to their intelligence level and then simply feel sorry for them. The so called fundies have proven to be more destructive to christianity than any atheist could ever hope to be. The spend as much if not more time attacking other christians as they do atheists. Why would anyone want to follow a belief system that is suseptable to interpretaion by any and all who subscribe. Religous belief is nothing more than a fancy label most people like to wear in public to show others that they think they are the good guys. Too many christians feel that atrocities aren't really so bad when they are done by good christian folks in their god's name.

    6. Adroit Alien profile image87
      Adroit Alienposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Athiests are a minority? It doesn't really make sense for us to "do anything about it." Athiests wouldn't post here because this is a religious forum. It's like going to the fairly tales forum and posting how much we disagree with them. oohh wait, where are we again?

    7. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      @ OP
      We are in the RELIGION forum!

      If atheists are upset by the discussions herein
      STAY OUT!

      Quite simple, really, (to use a well and truly overused phrase by certain atheists.)

      Maybe request an atheist forum. I'd be happy to stay out of it.

      I remember my earliest posts in the RELIGION forum.
      I couldn't believe the barrage of verbal abuse I copped! From whom?
      Atheists, non other.

      You guys aren't victims, as you so plainly claim to be. Grow up, please.

      Oh, and the big argument that's always sprouted, "freedom of speech. I can post in the religion forum if I want". That works both ways. cool

      1. paradigmsearch profile image89
        paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Deleted

        1. aka-dj profile image79
          aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          No, this is the RELIGION forum
          "Atheist", is a topic within the "R" forum.

          If I post a topic on Jesus, why do atheists get involved?
          That would make it the Jesus forum. hmm

          1. paradigmsearch profile image89
            paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            No, philosophy.

            What u do to my post?

            1. aka-dj profile image79
              aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              ?????

              I just noticed you got DELETED.

              If I did that, it's a coincidence of some sort. hmm

              All I did was post a reply, as usual. Strange things are happening here!

      2. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        yes, aka-dj

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        Baileybearposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        actually, this is the religion and beliefs forum, and HP have lumped atheists in here.  This is also an open forum.  If you want to only talk to other christians, you will have to find a closed forum.
        If I start a thread about christianity, I put it under christian topic - this does not mean I want only christians to comment

    8. thevoice profile image59
      thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I am a man of God its no persons right to tell you how to think live love human freedom is one of Gods truest gifts of life

    9. thevoice profile image59
      thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      this wrong not how God Jesus taught by human freedom peace birth right freedoms of all human and holy choices

      1. Castlepaloma profile image21
        Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        thevoice

        Do atheist have a voice, or rights or choices other than the holy bible?

        1. thevoice profile image59
          thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          yes God is freedom of choice in Jesus the holy spirit god forces no person to believe live free yet care about human healing amomg all people nations lives peace freedom are the only answer

          1. Castlepaloma profile image21
            Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            thevoice
            Sound still onesided

            People know whats wrong or whats right, isn't that greater freedom.
            Myself NON BIAS

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      Baileybearposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      yeah, some people are pretty annoying and the arguments are frustraing.  I wrote a hub about my impressions of the forum.  I've written 3 hubs now that relate to atheist/religion, and my ex-christian hub is my most read and commented on hub. I've got 2 more hubs in the pipeline, addressing issues raised.

      I try not to take it too seriously, look out for funny, amusing, worthwhile quotes to stick in my hubs, get a feel for common objections etc, and try my best to refrain from calling certain individuals Neanderthals!

  2. Mikeydoes profile image78
    Mikeydoesposted 6 years ago

    Honestly I just don't care what they create or make up or try to tell me, they have to live with it, not me.. That's their problem.

    Not that I will tell them to believe otherwise, I just don't respond back.

  3. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    .
    Just for the record, I am neither religionist nor atheist.smile

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Who are you then? You have to believe into something.

      1. DevLin profile image59
        DevLinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Human

        1. Druid Dude profile image61
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Agnostic

          1. Castlepaloma profile image21
            Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Agnostic

            According to the good book you are both going to hell. That’s why I cancel my subscription to it.

      2. paradigmsearch profile image89
        paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I believe in always trying to be ethical in conduct. Hurray, we have something in common after all!smile

        1. Druid Dude profile image61
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Are you kind to all living things? Do you participate in the rape of the planet and the wasting of it's resources?

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            Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            We are not wasting our resources - we are using them . Not always wisely, mostly recklessly. But we don't know any other ways, we don't have time for that, we don't have knowledge for that. But we are better already and will be wiser in future I am sure. We are slowly learning our lessons.

            1. Druid Dude profile image61
              Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              WELL then. I still feel threatened by those big, bad atheists. I find it hard to trust someone who is only answerable to themselves, morality wise, since I know that each of us has their own moral "thermometer". I do find it amusing that certain deists hold to the same fallacies that some of the non-deists hold to. Free will. In a totally scientific world, free will doesn't exist, it also can't exist in a God world, because there is only one will. God's. I read atheists attacking religion, when atheism itself is a religion.

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Hey Druid, I wrote a hub on morality. You might consider reading it, this way there isn't any further mistakes on your account.

                There is no god. To act as if there is proof of a god, because we exist and a good book told, demeans hundreds of years of research and discovery done by humanity. It is already bad enough many religious types use "god" as a crutch, because they cannot be fully responsible for themselves.

                Morality isn't a "god" idea or rule. Morality is a man-made ideology. It is about understanding our own conscience and actions.

                1. Druid Dude profile image61
                  Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  How does everyone else's measure up to you. Remember, we're probably outnumbered, especially if you are "very moral". And by the way, exactly what is the historical foundation of your morals?

                  1. Druid Dude profile image61
                    Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    And, one more thing. If no one else accepts your moral model, to what lengths would you be willing to go to make your moral model go global. That's the only way any of us will find peace. Not with each individual pursuing their own morality, but with everyone following the same. Oterwise, there will always be dissent.

                2. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
                  schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  that's crap!

                  1. Cagsil profile image61
                    Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    roll

            2. Castlepaloma profile image21
              Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Home Girl

              Why not let scientist help (who mainly are non believers in God). !!!
              Since politics’ is science base and the non believe care more about the natural environment. Rather than putting Atheist or agnostic down, put them to service.

              1. Druid Dude profile image61
                Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                To say scientists are mainly believers in a No-God concept is not a verifiable statement. There are many scientific disciplines, including archaeology and astronomy, and though some may have a higher incidence of Atheists, I really don't believe that you can cite any support for your statement, and anyone in a God concept based belief that does not protect all creation is foolish and has been deceived. They certainly do not accurately represent me, or anyone I know.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image21
                  Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Druid Dude

                  Mostly is a better word than mainly.

                  Scientific American, September 1999

                  "Scientists and Religion in America"
                  "Whereas 90% of the general population has a distinct belief in a personal god and a life after death, only 40% of scientists on the B.S. level favor this belief in religion and merely 10 % of those who are considered 'eminent' scientists believe in a personal god or in an afterlife."

                  1. Pcunix profile image87
                    Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Simple reality: religious belief softens and disappears with increasing education and intelligence.  That doesn't mean that there are not smart, well educated theists.  It is a lot harder to find a dumb atheist, though.

              2. thevoice profile image59
                thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                god no god all people need to live eat medical care freedom peace this not just holy human truth but human must to stabilize humanity

                1. thevoice profile image59
                  thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  why do we all care about the earth human life human rights needs cares peace freedom no matter what any person believes?

                  1. Cagsil profile image61
                    Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    When people's actions are based on delusional thoughts or ideas, then they become more dangerous than any atomic weapon on the planet.

            3. paradigmsearch profile image89
              paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              imho, the above is an intelligent, thoughtful statement.smile

              In other words, what I believe she is saying is that we are aware of and are trying to solve these problems.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image21
                Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                paradigmsearch

                That was me who said it, what hard core Christain changes that fast?

                1. paradigmsearch profile image89
                  paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Yes, you did say that.smile

          2. paradigmsearch profile image89
            paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            H@ll, no. Any insect or bacteria that gives me a hard time immediately gets stomped on.



            Every chance I get.smile

          3. paradigmsearch profile image89
            paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this



            And then there are steak dinners. Two for one!smile

            1. Druid Dude profile image61
              Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Count me in. I'm an ever evolving carnivore! smile

            2. thevoice profile image59
              thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              god kindness is Jesus the holy spirit religions for to long have used god human birth right against the human race. no child should hunger peace freedom human  care ids the true answer

      3. Stump Parrish profile image61
        Stump Parrishposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Why do I have to believe in something? The fact that you need a belief to hold on to in order to have purpose and meaning in your life doesn't mean that I also have this need. I assumed you think that atheism is a belief in something, am I right?

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          sandra rinckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I think it is surreal to have to believe in a god to do good.  I think the "christian principal" about everyone not being good people even if they are, are not good unless they also believe in god but not just any god, their god and not just their god, their specific to them god.

          I think it is insidious for certain religious folks to feel like they have been given an extra right, or have somehow been exalted over someone who has never actually done anything wrong but does not believe in any god, over someone who does lots of wrong but believes in a god; to act as though they are allowed to say rude and disrespectful things to people that don't believe in those things. 

          To come over a thread which they already knew would serve them no purpose lest it be to taunt and bully for not believing.  So the only reason they do is to make sure that they are heard except that they are always heard because they are always shouting.

          The other day while leaving the school there were people passing out Bibles to little kids.  They know they aren't supposed to be there passing them out on school grounds so they figure that if they stand right outside the gates, then it is legit.

          They don't take into account that some parents do NOT want their kids to have anything to do with it.

          And for sure, you can bet that someone will call me a bad mother for insisting that my child has nothing to do with that cursed little book until she is old enough to understand the things she is reading.

          Why is it so friggin' hard for them to comprehend that some people (myself) find most of them to be intrusive and disrespectful?

          The next time I see someone passing out bibles at school I will say something or I will take the book and toss it under a passing car.

          Leave the kids alone and for Christ sake, if someone says no, them leave them alone!

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            paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            The Chidren should not be deprived of the religion; or reading a book. Why should they be left as an easy prey for the Atheists and their wrong thinking?

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              skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Atheists wrong thinking? says who? paar?lol.

              hey lets start dissecting wrong thinking in islam,shall we?

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                paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                The Atheists are human beings like anybody else; so they can be wrong. Can't they?

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                  skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  really paar ? twist in statement ?

                  Your statement was in opposition to atheism for which you have no defense from your cult islam. So in comparison to islam how wrong atheists are ? tell me.

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                  sandra rinckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  But you can't treat them like equals?

  4. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Druid Dude, where is this starship you speak of on your profile? I think a little midnight race is in order. Mine is ready to go.smile

    http://s2.hubimg.com/u/3980593_f520.jpg

    1. Druid Dude profile image61
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Inner or outer space.  In the beginning, there was David Copperfeild.

  5. pylos26 profile image76
    pylos26posted 6 years ago

    Sing it brother!

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    Home Girlposted 6 years ago

    So whom we are praying today to - God, aliens or steak dinner?

    1. Druid Dude profile image61
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      In truth...you pray to one, you pray to all.

      1. Druid Dude profile image61
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Or maybe it's Chris Angel. See, I CAN produce an Angel!

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          Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I produced 3 angels and then they grew up!

    2. pylos26 profile image76
      pylos26posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Just take your pick...since the concept is meaningless.

  7. aware profile image71
    awareposted 6 years ago

    man thats a long question.

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    Home Girlposted 6 years ago

    "Dear God, if you can give me a steak dinner every night,keep aliens at bay for the next 30 years, may be at the end of the term I will believe in you, amen. No guarantee though, just keep steaks coming."

    1. Druid Dude profile image61
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No world peace? Why do you want foriegners at bay? You keep eatin' steaks every night, better off prayin' for a coronary bypass.

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        Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        OK,salmon steaks then big_smile

        1. Druid Dude profile image61
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Picking on endangered species? Just pickin'

    2. Castlepaloma profile image21
      Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Home girl

      I think alien are very under rated and the only one right, big man in the sky is over rated.

      If an alien meet you at your door, and told you there was no big man in the sky. Would you believe him?

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    Home Girlposted 6 years ago

    OK, OK, just mashed potatoes with mushroom gravy, please.
    I don't mind, I am a very peaceful lady, when I am not hungry.

    1. hanging out profile image59
      hanging outposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      see what happens when we try to pigeon hole God. Specific prayers for selfish desires always backfire. This is why adult christians don't pray for tickets to disneyland.

  10. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Religion has always been a subset of philosphy.smile

    1. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this



      To aka-dj:

      To clarify:

      Religion is a subset of philosophy.

      Atheism is a subset of philosophy.

      And here is one you will really hate:

      The concept of Jesus is a subset of philosophy.

      Sorry about that.smile

      Leave your mind open. Continue to search for truth. The learning process in life never ends.

      Bye for now.smile (again) smile

      1. Pcunix profile image87
        Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Atheism is not necessarily a subset of philosophy.  Not believing is purple Siberian Figglebots isn't a subset of philosophy, is it?

        I agree that some people reach this conclusion through philosophical thought. However, for some of us it was simply the default condition and the arguments presented for religion did not pass muster.

        1. thevoice profile image59
          thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          God Jesus the holy spirit faith humanity human needs cares rights freedoms needs are the only human way to peace. You have rights even of God to make your own human holy choices without force power control degradation of any human life. Think about human needs wants peace freedom

        2. thevoice profile image59
          thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          god Jesus the holy spirit are the human birth right for good only people religions use God as a human weapon to kill starve genocide human life

          1. thevoice profile image59
            thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            read God teaches is covers all human rights values needs peace freedom by human birth right allows belief support to all human cares rights needs world wide .
            unless we find human unity peace freedom we are all going to suffering all nations look around the world hell is right at our backdoor.

  11. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Repost of original.

    paradigmsearch wrote:

    Uh, this is the atheist forum. Says so right at the top.

    However, you are welcome to post here.

    I'm not an atheist and I've been blathering here all afternoon!smile

    But I'm done for now.smile

  12. victor2322 profile image61
    victor2322posted 6 years ago

    It's not hard to find a narrow minded and short sighted atheist though. And yes, there are just as many dumb atheists as there are dumb christians.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image21
      Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      victor2322

      Good thing to know.

      1. thevoice profile image59
        thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        we all carry pour beliefs choices in this world there still is the greatest human need to unify  for all humanity peace freedom world wide. You can not believe in God yet be the best person who helps the whole human race

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That's more possible to happen than the actual factual evidence of a god ever coming to pass. lol lol lol

    2. thevoice profile image59
      thevoiceposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      its not a matter of who is dumb people are dying starving homeless all over the world this needs all human attention to end human life without growth

    3. Pcunix profile image87
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Not the case at all. Persons of low intelligence almost always fall for religion. I have never even heard of one who did not.

      1. hanging out profile image59
        hanging outposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        thanks for proving my point
        lol

  13. brianzen profile image60
    brianzenposted 6 years ago

    It would have been nice to see people looking for a cooperative viewpoint to discuss specifics, rather than droning on and on about a prefered point of view. But that is why it keeps happening, nobody directs the disagreement into a dialog about something. (that might be useful?)

    1. Pcunix profile image87
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What "cooperation" is possible on this subject other than agreeing not to kill each other?

      I will defend your right to believe any fool thing you want, but that's the end of it.  What else are we supposed to cooperate on?

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    sandra rinckposted 6 years ago

    Back from work to see the thread derailed as I had mentioned in the OP.  I am not surprised.

    If I believed in god then I would be a prophet, not hard to figure out what is going to happen but since I don't I can rely on other observable evidence to support the whole reason I posted the thread to begin with.

    Derailed!  PS. yes, it really isn't just HP that gets derailed. wink

    It stands to reason that oober religious folks do not want to hear an atheist and gawd forbid others hear what the atheist have to say and they be damned if by their tolerance others decide (because they are allowed) not to believe in their detestable deity.

    And Pcunix,  I agree. Well... except for the part about liking dogs, I like dogs but I don't like yappy ankle biters! lol

    1. Pcunix profile image87
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ankle biters really is a good description for some here.

  15. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
    schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago

    what crap!

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Typical. lol

      1. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        you too sexy, not lol

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Nice off topic post. WOW! roll

  16. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
    schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago

    Why don't you all come over to my house and beat the crap out of me? I mean that's why you do w/ your tongue lashing.
    Jesus was crucified, why not beat me to death?

    This is crap. I say crap!

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      sandra rinckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Why would you think that?  What made you think like that?  Why would you think that anyone who doesn't believe in your god come over to your house and beat the crap out of you?  Where did you get that from?

      1. Pcunix profile image87
        Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Perhaps it is what she would like to do to atheists?

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          sandra rinckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I feel certain that, that is what she would do if given the chance.  Albeit the mind set of such is that regardless of the nature of the one on the other side, their instruction is to kill or be killed even though there is no threat.

      2. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I don't think that. I just think that you all should try to be nicer is all.
        "Sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me"
        Well, sometimes names or mean things said do hurt.........I am just an innocent schoolgirl trying to be good.

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          If you cannot take someone's words, then you lack understanding tolerance. Which also means, you lack the ability to accept them.

          Thus, you have made your life in and on a path that leads to intolerance and denial. Welcome to being selfish.

          1. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
            schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I was explaining that I don't want to beat up anyone. Why is that selfish?

          2. hanging out profile image59
            hanging outposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I f someone will not accept anothers point of view or belief then welcome to being selfish.
            lol
            the selfish tag is such a dupes facade.  Anyone can be easily labelled as selfish. Argumentative? = selfish. Tollerant? = selfish. Not going to disneyland = selfish.  Euthanize your cat? = selfish.

            lol the selfish lie shows spiritual deadness.

        2. Castlepaloma profile image21
          Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          schoolgirlforreal

          Some of these cats can improve on their manners.
          I’ve been mugged twice and one other time I got mugged by 40 monkeys (true story). Sticks and stones hurt a lot more than words by experience.

          You will be safe enough here, just don't give out name or address information about yourself, unless private.

          1. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
            schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol smile

  17. schoolgirlforreal profile image73
    schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago

    I wouldn't have entered but why should I let you "beat us up" constantly in OUR forums? and not say crap?

    You are more than welcome to have your own discussions w/ out me.....I'd gladly not come in.......once you do the same.

    God love you
    God bless you
    Peace


                         Dominus Vobiscum

                                   Go in peace my child

  18. Diane Inside profile image86
    Diane Insideposted 6 years ago

    I will just poke my head in the door here and say this.

    Christians, we do not like it when atheists hijack our forums and try to impose their beliefs on us, So we should give them the same respect we would like to have from them.

    You are actually not helping the situation by insighting arguments here when Sandra obviously did not ask for our opinions.

    If we do not like this behavior when we try to conduct a religious forum we should not be do it here, it is contradictory to what Jesus teaches. Our actions are supposed to be a witness to others. Not make them feel like an attack.

    If they do come to the religious forums and try to push their beliefs on you, then stand up for yourself, not here where you have not been invited to do so.

    Sorry Sandra for stepping in when you didn't ask for my input.

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      Baileybearposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "our forums"  - these are not closed, private forums.  I start threads according to what topic it is about eg put to christianity if about that - doesn't mean only christians are to answer

      1. Diane Inside profile image86
        Diane Insideposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        No I guess you missed what I was trying to say, the OP asked a specific question to a specific group of people.

        I just think getting into these conversations when your opinion isn't asked for just asks for trouble and doesn't show respect to the op.

        1. hanging out profile image59
          hanging outposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol
          Atheists have said our topics are not sacred. Everytime we jump into a atheist thread someone cries, hey get out. LOL. I have never met a bigger bunch of whiners. But then those who are losing the race never have smiles on their faces. smile

          1. Castlepaloma profile image21
            Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I thought it was the human race, and we are all in the same boat together.

  19. pisean282311 profile image56
    pisean282311posted 6 years ago

    no i dont get upset...it is their belief which makes them say so...for me their belief is myth but for them it is real..it is ultimate reality for them ..believers or non believers every one has his/her versions of how things are , what is truth, which book is true or fake and such things...it is ok with me when believers say 'you would go to hell' ..for me hell doesnot exist and for them it does...so why should i get upset on something that doesnot exist...

  20. profile image0
    Home Girlposted 6 years ago

    Should I wait until somebody would email me and ask for my opinion? Utterly ridiculous!
    It's a forum. Not an educational board. Anybody can come and tell his opinion on ANYTHING,folks, no matter how silly it might be.
    Am I right?
    The beauty of this world is in its diversity.
    So anybody has a chance to laugh at something!

    1. Pcunix profile image87
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I always wait to be officially invited.  I rc'd three such invitations today, sent Registered Mail (a little annoying to have to answer the door to sign for them, but so it is).  They are lovely letters - embossed HubPages stationery, a really nice type face and that red wax seal beside the signature is very impressive. 

      My understanding is that one you reach permanent 100 score, they send you a 1 year "License to Post", which is automatically renewed if you remain active.  I aspire to that, and not just because I had to put on clothes to go to the door for the mail.

      It must be very expensive for HP to do these letters and bitterly disappointing that some of you just charge ahead and post without having been asked.  That's quite rude, and I would not be at all surprised if you later get something quite nasty from them for your cheeky disregard of protocol.

      Oh, if you do get a letter, be sure to check for the hologram and the microprinting - I have heard these are often counterfeited and sent to people who do not deserve them in hopes that they will post and become embarrassed when their error is disclosed.  You would not want to be caught at that!

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        Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Just to be on a safe side, I officially declare that I am a tea pot!

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          sandra rinckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          What makes the tea pot boil? hmmm???? lol

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            Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            The necessity to make a decision!

  21. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I am back.

    Dead Thread?

    1. profile image0
      sandra rinckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Kiss a mouse trap?

  22. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Is religion spam allowed or not?

 
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