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The Creator authored Quran; He claims it

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    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    The Creator-God Allah YHWH authored Quran; He claims it. Muhammad never claimed to have authored it.

    [4:137] O ye who believe! believe in Allah and His Messenger, and in the Book which He has revealed to His Messenger, and the Book which He revealed before it. And whoso disbelieves in Allah and His angels, and His Books, and His Messengers, and the Last Day, has surely strayed far away.

    http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … ;verse=131

    Every verse of Quran bears signatures of its author; it is Word of the Creator-God as the universe is Work of the Creator-God and every part of it bears His signatures.

    There is no other Revealed Book wherein the Creator-God Allah YHWH has claimed to author it

    1. Disappearinghead profile image88
      Disappearingheadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Nice try Paar.

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      exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I bet He never used a printing press either

    3. Beelzedad profile image60
      Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      This is usually a sign that a propagandist is running out of propaganda to spread and is resorting to the very weakest of logical claims.  smile

  2. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    You want people to believe because your book says that a "creator" created it, then it must be factual?

    Now that's too funny. lol lol lol

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      exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      God inspired men to write!

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Oh really, can you prove that?

        How do you know what inspired the morons who wrote the bible or any religious scripture.

        How you do know it wasn't Satan inspired?

        The truth is you do not actually know anything about it. So please.

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          exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          If you follow Him he will let you know,
          You may not know but I do

          1. skyfire profile image72
            skyfireposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Hows that for delusion ? wink

  3. secularist10 profile image91
    secularist10posted 6 years ago

    "Muhammad never claimed to have authored it."

    But nevertheless he did.

    1. Druid Dude profile image59
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I authored it. In two days, in a drunken stupor. That's where the virgins come in...damn blackout. I forgot about that.

  4. libby101a profile image60
    libby101aposted 6 years ago

    Sure... God picked a man who couldn't read or write to author his great book!

    1. secularist10 profile image91
      secularist10posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Makes as much sense as some guy being born to a woman who was pregnant despite "never having had sex" (yeah right), and then dying... and coming back to life.

      1. Fenixfan profile image88
        Fenixfanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        No it doesn't secularist. You are comparing divine miracles to an illiterate person? Seriously? A person that had many wives and was a pervert to boot? That is what you are comparing the Virgin Mary and Jesus to?

        1. libby101a profile image60
          libby101aposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          And not to mention Muhammad robbed carivans and allowed his men to rape the villager's wives!!! Big difference! And many other horrid things!

        2. secularist10 profile image91
          secularist10posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yup.

          Both stories are unbelievable. You say the virgin birth was a divine miracle, Muslims say Muhammad's revelations were a miracle.

          I say you both need a drink. (Oh wait, Muslims don't drink, damn...)

          1. skipper112 profile image61
            skipper112posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Muhammed revealed how to have more than one woman, how to go to war, how to raid and rob neighbours.how to have orgies as spoils of war,
            Muhammed revealed the exact diverence to the Bible so Muhammed want's us to belive God changed his mind. So each verse is signed by Alah, if this is the case who can verify that Allah signed it.

            Why was Muhammed needed , after he can't verify Allah's writing , as you state he can't read or write. Back to square one, Now Allah wrote the Quran, it this right Paar?? now I ask again who  wrote the Quran.!!!
            If Allah wrote the Quran, then all Allah had to do is say it is written, and hand out copies, after all he created the world ( so you say) but Allah can't write the Quran with out Mumhammeds 'so called visions' sounds a bit of a tall story to me paar.


            Let me see if I have this right Mohammed never claimed to have written the Quran ( I agree Mohammed could not read or write) but wait a sec  'Secularist' said Allah did write the Quran.( druid think I need a drink to) So who really wrote the Quran, Allah, Monommed, or many scribes ( but only after Mumhammed died)

            Now you are saying that Allah A God (according to you) as Libby said picked a man who could not read or write, to Produce his 'so called visions from a Angel, as Allah was too busy to talk to Mohammed him self,' then you say the Quran was finnaly written dowm many years after Mohammed's death, and then Allah signed each verse as it was produced EXACTLY as Mohammed said!!!!, OH YEAH RIGHT


            More detailed explation of your statement needed  both Paar and Secularist please??

            1. secularist10 profile image91
              secularist10posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Well, I don't know about Paar, but my position is pretty simple: it's all BS. Christianity, Islam, Judaism--all of it.

              Here's what probably really happened:

              Islam: Muhammad had some dreams, hallucinations or visions of some kind (it was in a cave, if I'm not mistaken), and then came back to civilization with this new exciting message, it gained popularity, the new religion spread, and the final versions of the Quran were recorded by scribes and writers some years later.

              Christianity: Mary actually did have sex with someone (i.e. she lied), just like every other woman in history, got pregnant and had Jesus. Years later when Jesus died and was buried in the tomb, someone stole or otherwise removed the body from the tomb (maybe a deranged follower, maybe the Roman guards trying to mess with everyone, etc).

              Voila. There you have Islam and Christianity, cleansed of all the unbelievable tall tales.

              Muslims cannot prove that God authored the Quran, and Christians cannot prove that God authored or even inspired the Bible. It's all man-made. Pretty simple.

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                exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                silly, silly, silly
                someday maybe you will come to reality

                1. secularist10 profile image91
                  secularist10posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Mmmm, and what reality is that, pray tell?

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                    exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    you will know when you receive it, telling you now will only sound like fairy tales

  5. Jerami profile image78
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    It is kinda like sinse they used to think that the world was flat!   and we know that it isn't therefore that is all the proof that I need that the world does not exist.

  6. skipper112 profile image61
    skipper112posted 6 years ago

    Secularist,
    You did put a smile on my face. nice to get some humor in these threads,
    ty my friend you made as much sence as paar, and it was Funny thank's.
    God bless

    1. secularist10 profile image91
      secularist10posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Whatever you say, slick. You too remind me of Paar--you spell just like him! LOL

      Jokes aside, I'd like to see a serious rebuttal. Looks like it's not in the cards. No surprises there.

      1. skipper112 profile image61
        skipper112posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        year mate I know what you mean. And my spelling is verry bad sometimes I agree.
        But I did enjoy your post.
        Have a great day
        God Bless

      2. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        A serious rebuttal will see you banned. smile There is only free speech for religionists here now. They will have you banned for saying "hello"

  7. aka-dj profile image78
    aka-djposted 6 years ago

    If Allah had written (lets say inspired) the Bible, he must be VERY VERY VERY confused.

    The Bible teaches doctrines worlds apart from Koran. And IF the Koran was supposed to somehow "correct mistakes", there were 100% to be corrected. hmm
    One example would be that Jesus was the promised Messiah, who was to die on the cross for all of mankind's sin, then according to Paar.. Jesus was NOT the Messiah, and He died in India. ????
    That's RIDICULOUS!

    It's so LAME, that I'm surprised I even posted this.

    1. skipper112 profile image61
      skipper112posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      aka-dj;
      G'day I belive paar said that Allah and NOT Muhammed wrote the Quran ( I accept this as Mohammed could not read or write) but then Paar stated every verse was signed by the author.Then why did Mohhammed have 'VISIONS' with a (so called) Angel if Allah was going to write the Quran. ( according to Parr) Allah is God, His Angel's, Mohanmmed a prophet so why did Allah need Mohammed's 'vision's' to correct the Bible wth the Quran.? Gets a bit confused I think, then the author is supossed to have signed every verse in the Quran, to make it reasonable and truthfull. aka-dj Mainstream Islam belives Allah took Jesus from the cross and put a bad person there instead. Paar's sect says Jesus went to India now  who do you belive. Islam or Islam???The stories get better every day, think I'll ask the next polar bear that flies past, the bear might make more sense.!!!!!!!!

      I beleive the more times Paar oppens his mouth the DEEPER he digs his HOLE, soon it will be so deep, Paar will not be able to crawl out.!!

      1. Druid Dude profile image59
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Pearls before...well, you know.

 
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