As we all know that to make any story interesting, there ned to be conflict and the Bible, Tora, and Koran are no different. The stories contained in these books have the classic good vs. evil to get their point across. It's funny how some people take theses stories as historical fact. A few Biblical characters did in fact exist, but were made into supermen/women as time went on. Whether Jesus existed is up for debate also. Nothing was written about him till 30+ years after he died by biographers who never met him. But as far as the existence of satan, he, like 99% of the characters in the Bible are metaphores.
What kind of heathen would deny the existance of the cookie monster?!?! Earnest you have just shattered my whole and entire world view here! *curls up in a ball and sways* there is a cookie monster, there is a cookie monster
Ahhh much better! C is for cookie and thats good enough for me!
Satan seems to have become a very popular topic just lately on these forums! Satan is a myth, images of Satan are based on those of archaic horned, fertility gods. The early church's version of nobbling the pagan opposition!
A 2000 yr old doctrine is not that easy to dissuade. After doing research a person should, leaning on God, of course, should be able to come to a quite concrete realization that satan is best used as a metaphor and kept well separate from being an entity by itself.
On a slightly more serious line of thinking (beyond feeling upset at the very notion that there is no cookie monster), what if the concept of the Devil or evil is just the other side of the God good coin? These are opposites, like right and left or up and down. Without one the other cannot exist. Hence God (assuming a literal existence in the manner of religions) is going to be one side of the coin, the Devil the unavoidable other side of the coin. Inseparable.
valid point ...that brings another question..if satan does exist and god didn't end it...is it that god never wanted to end satan?..or god is not so powerful as we assume god to be or was god working with satan to play with humans or is it match between god and satan while humans being mere pawns?
The questions that I am lead to is in wondering about these concepts of good and evil. I begin to wonder if it is more the cycle of destruction and creation that we interpret as good and evil. It is said that all things serve god including satan. With this train of thought I tend to leave behind the religious texts telling me the nature of things and begin to consider the nature of things using my mind instead. It is liberating even if it does get a bit confusing
I think Neil Gaiman says it best in saying “God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of the players, (ie everybody), to being involved in an obscure and complex version of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time.”
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